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76  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Paul Ryan and Hillary Clinton team up to support Anti-Poverty Plan on: August 26, 2016, 01:25:44 am
I doubt this would ever pass a through Republican House, even if Ryan throws his weight behind it.
77  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Everyday Feminism on: August 25, 2016, 06:31:37 pm
Pretty good as far as I've seen.

I thought you liked Upworthy, BRTD? Huh It and EF are constantly sharing each other's posts.
78  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Santander on: August 25, 2016, 04:37:36 pm
Please stop saying "Drumpf," it's gross and not funny. Use the proper term, .

I like "Drumpf", and I don't want to need to look up and copy-paste an emoji every time I have to mention him.

I'll be open to changing my terminology if he loses by a comfortable enough margin that he and what he represents won't be a threat in the near future.

I don't know what the joke is. Haha, what a funny foreign name! There are many reasons a person might have felt compelled in the past to anglicize their name. It's disgusting and xenophobic and I think much less of anyone who uses it.

Evergreen uses it and she's actually German. I'm pretty sure germanophobia isn't a thing in 2016 America - if it was, of course it would be very different.
79  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Are the progressives on the correct side of the history? on: August 25, 2016, 04:13:21 pm
Regardless, even if eugenics wasn't 'a progressive idea', it was certainly a future-oriented, as opposed to past-oriented and thus as opposed to small-c conservative, one.

It certainly was presented as such by its proponents, yes (I'd argue that some of the ideas that laid the groundwork for it were inherited from anti-Enlightenment thought, but I'm not well versed enough in the subject to really back it up). Still, defining progressivism as "any future-oriented ideology" is neither intellectually useful nor helpful to common understanding.
80  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Nicholas Sarkozy on: August 25, 2016, 04:02:24 pm
He says burkinis are a provocation. He is right. They provoke dimwit politicians to pass laws against them, which provokes greater antagonism in the society and threatens to become a recruiting tool for militants. Therefore we must stand with the dimwit politicians in their fight to stop them.

Sarkozy is an FF for standing up to the menace of supererogatory fabric against French values of Continental philosophy, smelly cheese, and ennui.

Has the word taken on a different meaning in English? Because it just means boredom (not to say it wouldn't work as such).

Yeah, i guess so - sort of an existential boredom, a pervasive sense of futility.

Weirdly enough, the word in French literature that I think approaches this definition best is an English one. Tongue It would be spleen, as used by Baudelaire.
81  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of TexasGurl on: August 25, 2016, 03:57:19 pm
Massive FF (normal)
82  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Do you support the death penalty? If so, in what cases? Why or why not? on: August 25, 2016, 01:38:52 pm
"Humanity" is a title that we confer on people in recognition of certain virtues.

No it's not. Read a dictionary.

I think I see the source of our confusion: You assume that the rights of every biological human were handed down from Mount Zion, inscribed on a tabula rasa by John Locke Himself. What interests me, however, is working out why people's rights and privileges have fluctuated over time without assuming that their current condition is anything more than just another fluctuation.

We can discuss the origin and universality of various rights as much as you want, but that doesn't change the fact that you can't claim that people you don't like aren't human.
83  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Nicholas Sarkozy on: August 25, 2016, 01:30:46 pm
He says burkinis are a provocation. He is right. They provoke dimwit politicians to pass laws against them, which provokes greater antagonism in the society and threatens to become a recruiting tool for militants. Therefore we must stand with the dimwit politicians in their fight to stop them.

Sarkozy is an FF for standing up to the menace of supererogatory fabric against French values of Continental philosophy, smelly cheese, and ennui.

Has the word taken on a different meaning in English? Because it just means boredom (not to say it wouldn't work as such).
84  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Do you support the death penalty? If so, in what cases? Why or why not? on: August 25, 2016, 01:05:09 pm
"Humanity" is a title that we confer on people in recognition of certain virtues.

No it's not. Read a dictionary.
85  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Siren on: August 25, 2016, 01:03:23 pm
Nice gal, FF.
86  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: insult the previous poster ....badly on: August 25, 2016, 12:39:09 pm
Jarosław Kaczyński would be a better GM than you.


You're a s**t. A s**t in silk stockings, and I also defecate on your beard.

(Bonus point to those being able to identify two references)

The first is Napoleon to Talleyrand, obviously.
87  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone IV - Hungover on: August 25, 2016, 12:33:36 pm
I've became an utter workaholic. If I don't do some work I feel like a s**t. If I do some work, I feel like a s**t for not doing more.

Can I borrow some of your workaholism? I'm suffering from extreme laziness these days.
88  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Santander on: August 25, 2016, 12:30:47 pm
Please stop saying "Drumpf," it's gross and not funny. Use the proper term, .

I like "Drumpf", and I don't want to need to look up and copy-paste an emoji every time I have to mention him.

I'll be open to changing my terminology if he loses by a comfortable enough margin that he and what he represents won't be a threat in the near future.
89  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump currently not on the ballot in Minnesota on: August 25, 2016, 10:15:22 am
It would be hilarious to see MN shaded >90% Dem on the map. Tongue
90  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: 1936 election as predicted by Literary Digest and Gallup on: August 25, 2016, 10:13:16 am
Please keep this in mind next time you blast 538 for getting a race wrong. Tongue
91  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of "nice guy, FF :)" reasoning on: August 25, 2016, 10:09:53 am
The Manichean HP versus FF thing is a fail right out of the box. FP, BP and HP, as in Freedom Poster, Beta Poster, and Horrible Poster, would make more sense. Judging folks on the internet as people rather than posters is problematical.

Using Greek letters as adjectives in one of the worst memes ever. Let's not spread it further.


Also, from that thread Morden linked to:

Without a doubt, a true freedom fighter.

Looks like I'm not the only one who ever changed his mind about a poster, right BRTD? Wink
92  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Santander on: August 25, 2016, 10:07:37 am
Actually comparing AAD kids to Drumpfsters makes a lot of sense. They have very similar cultlike behaviors and propensity to divide the world into in-group and out-group.

At one point, Trump's candidacy was actually a cultural dividing line between the two forums, back when Atlas forum was accused of "taking things too seriously" for not being awash in ironic Trump support like AAD.

Indeed. Thankfully most of them eventually realized how utterly stupid their charade was and recanted, but they still haven't realized that it was just the symptom of a deeper problem with AAD's culture.
93  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Dodd-Frank Act? on: August 25, 2016, 10:04:14 am
Doesn't go far enough, but a significant step in the right direction.
94  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Nicholas Sarkozy on: August 25, 2016, 10:03:33 am
Despicable.
95  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party (UK) Leadership Election, 2016 on: August 25, 2016, 08:44:53 am
Well, if even Blair has given up, I guess we can safely say RIP Smith... and RIP Labour.
96  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Sam Spade Memorial Good Post Gallery on: August 25, 2016, 08:42:57 am
It's a bit unfair to call them "Clinton welfare reforms" with how reluctant he was to sign them and even vetoed them twice but still horrible and yes he deserves condemnation for folding.

People think of Chamberlain before Hitler when they talk about Munich for reasons that are understandable. You expect Congressional Republicans to have horrifying morals. Just as we are unsurprised by the blue-avatared troglodytes in this thread who are gloating over single mothers working menial jobs while their increasingly marginalized children languish in substandard daycare or in front of mind-numbing cable television programming.

One side is evil almost to the point of seeming to lack its own agency - not that they don't bear responsibility, but for those of us condemned to share this planet with them, they are more like a natural disaster, or the maw of some great, Satanic beast sent here from hell to torment us mortals. Think of how contemporary accounts describe someone like Attila the Hun. We have our equivalent, personified in Newt Gingrich's flabby paunches and the right-wing horrors who have joined us right here, on this forum. All that we can do is weep, pray, and wonder.
97  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Santander on: August 25, 2016, 08:42:21 am
Actually comparing AAD kids to Drumpfsters makes a lot of sense. They have very similar cultlike behaviors and propensity to divide the world into in-group and out-group.
98  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Do you support the death penalty? If so, in what cases? Why or why not? on: August 25, 2016, 08:36:45 am
I do believe that some crimes are so dehumanizing, those who commit them forfeit the right to be treated as humans. The case that comes immediately to my mind when I say this is gang rape.

This is quite possibly the argument I hate most in this debate. When we say that, what we're doing is refusing to acknowledge the reality that human beings are capable of the worst deeds. It might help you sleep better at night to bury your head in the sand like this, to pretend that people who do horrible things belong to a different species, that they're "not like us", but it's extremely unhelpful both for thinking about morality and for devising a criminal justice system. It's what leads people to refuse to acknowledge when people close to them do these things - because surely "such a nice guy" could never do such a thing. Instead, we need to face the reality that "human nature" doesn't shield us from doing horrible things, and seek to understand what it is that leads some people to be virtuous and others to be less so.
99  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Are the progressives on the correct side of the history? on: August 25, 2016, 04:47:06 am
Where does this notion that eugenics were a "progressive" idea come from? Sure, a terrifyingly high number of left-wing figures embraced it, but just as many people from the right did. And unless its most "successful" application didn't take place under a progressive regime (I hope you wouldn't try to claim that Nazism was progressive, because that's just plain ridiculous). The idea that there's a clear-cut divide here is ludicrous.
100  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Be honest: If this election were between... on: August 25, 2016, 03:51:52 am
Women in politics can't get away with being utterly self-absorbed, spiteful bullies. Donna Drumpf would probably have dropped out long before Iowa.
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