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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Choose the first woman President. on: February 19, 2017, 03:29:32 pm
Warren, Klobuchar, or someone else who isn't nationally prominent as of now.
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How have your views on abortion changed over the years? on: February 19, 2017, 03:27:04 pm
I guess I've always been (more or less) in the "pro-choice" camp but I increasingly find the libertarian-esque language of "choice" off-putting and I also have come to realize (based on discussions with people like TJ, for example) the fact that the moral sense of right and wrong that (most) people have is neither dictated by evolving notions of Progress nor rational (lol) interpretations of empirical data - nor should it be.

Moreover, I now realize that people who genuinely believe that abortion is murder aren't necessarily heartless misogynistic troglodytes, by any means; and consequently - especially considering just how incredibly sensitive moral debates over such intimate matters as the human (specifically, female human) body, the family, and children are - there will probably never be any resolution to this issue (and if there were, what would that say about the state of the fundamentally subjective nature of humanity? Would we really want to live in a world where everyone agreed on everything??).
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Next DNC Chair: Perez campaign claims to have 180 of 224 votes to win on: February 17, 2017, 01:39:53 pm
Is this a good time to remind everyone that acceptable-to-wealthy-donors Tom Perez was recruited into the race not long after one of the Democratic Party's wealthiest donors of all began smearing Ellison as a rabid anti-Semite? (because a black Muslim obviously would hate Jews amirite)
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Open letter by psychiatrists: Trump "incapable of serving safely as president" on: February 17, 2017, 01:25:47 pm
Of course Trump is a few bricks short of a wall, but in addition to being unethical this is also yet another example of the "use institutional and technocratic experts to scold Trump" school of  opposing him, which has been consistently and absolutely ineffectual. And considering some of the things in which the psychiatric profession and its institutions have themselves been complicit...

This is an important point.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Is this the beginning of the end of the Trump administration? on: February 16, 2017, 07:10:41 pm
The real question is when President Trump will recognize how poor a job he is doing.

Assuming that he's ever done such a thing at any point in his life, or that he's even capable of it. I've seen absolutely no reason to believe either of these things.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Reuters: Seattle DREAMer Arrested for Deportation on: February 16, 2017, 12:00:49 am
Good to see that krazen continues to be a proud piece of sh**t.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Next DNC Chair: Keith Ellison, Pete Buttigieg, Tom Perez big names in race on: February 14, 2017, 04:58:31 pm
Oh my god, why is this happening. Just give it to Ellison! This shouldn't be that hard!

They'd rather lose elections than lose control of the Party to insubordinate Left-wingers who would scare off wealthy donors. Not that hard to understand, really.
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Next DNC Chair: Keith Ellison, Pete Buttigieg, Tom Perez big names in race on: February 14, 2017, 04:48:22 pm

I guess we can now look forward to more lost seats in Congress and state legislatures and Cory Booker's humiliating defeat by Trump/Pence in 2020. Grim.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Conservative Case for Fighting Human-Induced Climate Change on: February 14, 2017, 04:44:48 pm
Presumably "conservative" isn't synonymous with the fossil-fuel industry so this shouldn't be a problem, right?
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Oklahoma lawmakers want men to approve all abortions on: February 14, 2017, 04:39:33 pm
Yet America voted for Trump, who made it very clear that Roe would be gone under him. I trust abortion polls about as far as I can throw them.


I mean, there's no way that you didn't know that Hillary won the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes, and there's no way it just slipped your mind.

The nationwide popular vote means about as much to me as a speck of dust on the ground. Both are useless.

That's fine, but you know that "America voted for Trump" is an objectively false statement. Why would anyone ever try to be wrong on purpose?

Because narratives.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What truly doomed Hillary? on: February 14, 2017, 04:36:40 pm
The fact that she's a part of the same elite, dominant economic/political/cultural/media class whose disdain for and alarm at Donald Trump was (and is) only matched by their thinly veiled contempt for the "little" people (who have been hurt so much by the same contemporary economic, social, and political trends that have concentrated so much wealth, power, and influence into the hands of said elite). "Clearing the field" and poisoning the well vis-à-vis any alternatives to her candidacy in the Democratic primaries ("America will never vote for an atheist Socialist Jew from Vermont lmao") only made matters worse and fed into existing negative public perceptions of her (which, lest we forget, have existed for literally the past two decades).
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Serious Q for Republicans on: February 13, 2017, 11:48:58 am
Demographics is destiny,  Part 87744081116664327 - as the Democratic Party controls quite close to absolutely nothing at any level of government.
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Democrats/Dem leaners who live in California are throwing away their vote. on: February 13, 2017, 11:39:09 am
3/10 you can do better
14  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: MS remains the 'most religious' state; VT is still 'least religious' on: February 13, 2017, 11:28:27 am
It's interesting that Western red states like Arizona, Montana, and Alaska are still not very religious, while places like Illinois and Maryland are.  I think this leads to the possibility of the Great East-West Divide of the 2030s-2050s in American politics.

I could see a scenario where Georgia and North Carolina are actually Safe R at mid-century, while Arizona has become Safe D and Alaska Likely D.

I doubt it,  religion everywhere is on the decline,  especially with the Millennial generation.  By 2030 it's bound to be a much less impactful statistic politically.  


The reason states like Maryland still register as average religiosity is due to their heavy black population. The White population in Maryland more closely hews to New England Whites in terms of religiosity indicators than the Whites in states of the South or even the Midwest. Minorities and Hispanics are far more religiously inclined than educated Whites as a whole, but unlike Evangelicals and other White social conservatives, it's not the defining feature of their political beliefs.

Did you literally just say a sentence where you implied there was a dichotomy between being socially conservative and educated?

If by "socially conservative" you mean "strongly evangelical in religious orientation" then yeah, there's an inverse correlation between that and level of formal education. But it's only a correlation, and not as strong as elite liberals (and some more secular elite conservatives, for that matter) commonly think. And it must be emphasized that it's weaker than what it used to be, and skewed regionally (because obviously the Southern Bible Belt would skew this relationship).

Also, less formally educated people really aren't that religious (let alone, "socially conservative") in practice, even if their moral beliefs seem crude and ignorant by elite university-educated standards. Problem is, elite university graduates absolutely dominate the narrative, and not just in this context.
15  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is Barack Obama an anti-Semite? on: February 13, 2017, 11:11:08 am
Also, you all do realize that Obama was no less pro-Israel in practice than any of his predecessors, yes?
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is Barack Obama an anti-Semite? on: February 13, 2017, 11:08:09 am
No, why would anyone suggest he is?

It feeds into the Fifth Column for Sharia Law in America narrative. Nothing new, and not limited to Obama ofc (see: Keith Ellison). Never gets any less despicable though.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / 2012 vs. 2016 GOP primaries: mirror images? on: February 12, 2017, 04:06:21 pm
In the sense that the "Clown Car" of 2012 was dominated by the Tea Party or"crazy" types, while the Establishment candidate (Romney) was the front-runner all along and the eventual nominee. Contrast that to 2016, where the dynamic seemed to be the other way around....
18  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: why has Kansas traditionally had a visible moderate wing in there GOP? on: February 12, 2017, 03:59:30 pm
Define "moderate." Most of the country-club Republicans in the wealthy parts of Johnson County are very much in the Reaganite mold even if there aren't many Rapture-anticipating white fundamentalist Protestants or politically-motivated-by-abortion Catholics among them. Furthermore, the country-clubbers are usually the most loyal Republicans in the sense that they're always more likely to vote in Republican primaries, donate to Republican candidates and Republican-supported causes, volunteer for Republican candidates, and vote Republican at all levels of government (read: down-ballot) than the people who are more motivated to turn out en masse for Republicans when the likes of Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Steve King, Louie Gohmert, Mike Pence, and yes, Donald Trump are on the ballot.
19  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of poors on: February 09, 2017, 02:26:12 pm
They do tend to be more empathetic than the rich (and that's not just some left-wing moralizing on my part, there is a lot of Research that shows this. Look it up).
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of billionaires on: February 09, 2017, 02:18:00 pm
What exactly justifies someone earning a billion dollars, anyway? Unless you don't think economics has a moral component that isn't "I've got mine, now f-ck off." In which case, I really don't know what to say, other than some cliches about how the American Cult of Individualism that sanctifies private property rights as the highest moral good is utterly corrosive to society, makes Baby Jesus cry, etc.
21  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What would an "all liberal, all the time" version of Milo Yiannopoulos be like? on: February 08, 2017, 12:09:41 pm
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Donald John Trump v. Putin on: February 08, 2017, 12:08:52 pm
My opinion of this opinion poll is that you need to go outside and detox.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Inside look at the Trump White House... on: February 07, 2017, 10:36:51 pm
This is the logical conclusion of a party that has spent the past several decades doing their best to put into practice their pathological hatred of the very concept of (small-d) democratic governance (which explains their authoritarianism along with their love of the military/military-industrial complex, law enforcement, subsidies to corporations and rich people which take numerous forms...).
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Inside look at the Trump White House... on: February 07, 2017, 10:31:34 pm
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity"
25  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of billionaires on: February 07, 2017, 10:30:30 pm
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