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1  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Are there any homosexuals/transgenders/transsexuals by choice? on: July 22, 2016, 05:27:17 pm
Men aren't choosing to get a hard dick when thinking about men and then choosing not to the next time.

You mean to tell me that you got a boner from this?

2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Knife held to your throat... on: July 21, 2016, 04:35:42 pm
DWPerry will win in a shocking upset through the efforts of an Atlasia-led write-in campaign.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Opinion of Ted Cruz's convention speech on: July 21, 2016, 04:34:42 pm
While I appreciate that Cruz effectively ended his political career I still cannot call anything he does a Freedom Move.
4  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: What's more important: democracy, or liberalism/secularism? on: July 18, 2016, 10:47:31 am
I find none of  the list of democracy, secularism, and liberalism particularly important.   I am mostly focused on property rights which I guess maps best to liberalism, if only indirectly.  So I guess I have to vote for the latter reluctantly.   

Even the most extreme example of a Greedy Capitalist meme created by Marxists would still pale in comparison to you.
5  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: What's more important: democracy, or liberalism/secularism? on: July 17, 2016, 05:34:30 pm
The results of this poll are quite telling. And utterly predictable.
6  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Dozens reportedly mowed down, killed by truck at Nice Bastille Day parade. on: July 14, 2016, 05:42:44 pm
Gee, would never have guessed!

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#IS affiliated Telegram accounts posting images of #Nice #France

https://twitter.com/TRACterrorism/status/753698774623592449
7  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Why did the South switch parties? on: July 14, 2016, 11:32:52 am
Basically, it was a combination of white backlash against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, increased levels of income and wealth, a corresponding increase in the population of metropolitan areas at the expense of rural areas (with Northern white conservative migrants making a fairly significant contribution here), the  transformation of white racial attitudes from being openly racist to being more "colorblind" in light of whites believing that civil rights issues had basically been "solved" and thus, whites being opposed to the expansion of civil rights protections against de facto segregation and inequality (as opposed to de jure segregation and inequality), the decline of the white populism of  the downtrodden in favor of the white populism of the upwardly mobile middle class and aspiring middle class, the rise of the Religious Right - which made the white evangelical Protestants who dominated Southern culture a political force to be reckoned with -, generational replacement (how many Southern whites who are alive today remember the New Deal? lol), and finally - as Torie alluded to - the Voting Rights Act precipitating the collapse of the white Democratic machines that had made the South effectively a one-party region (with their collapse creating an actual two-party system in the South in which black voters were increasingly influential within the region's Democratic Party).
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: 2016 GOP platform becomes MORE socially conservative, calls for ban on all Porn on: July 13, 2016, 04:15:29 pm
To add to what KingSweden said earlier in this thread re: normalizing sexuality (read: not feeling guilty about or disgusted by sex between consenting adults) in American society, I would also say that I have a fairly similar stance on pornography as I have on prostitution: regulate it (or in the latter case, legalize and regulate it) and protect people who work in both fields from exploitation and abuse (which unfortunately does happen at a disturbingly high rate). Furthermore, if more young women - particularly from disadvantaged/low socioeconomic backgrounds - had more opportunities for becoming economically independent and achieving social mobility and security, then perhaps there would be less women who turn to these lines of work out of desperation (as opposed to it being a voluntary career path, which certainly happens and to which I am by no means opposed).

No need to ban sex-related work, just protect the safety and dignity of the people who work in it (and FFS, stop shaming people -  or rather, stop shaming women, because let's be real...they receive the brunt of the shaming and condemnation from others - who do sex-related work).
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Why aren't we talking about white-on-white crime? on: July 11, 2016, 10:56:27 am
It's a really serious issue.

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In 2014, about 82 percent of murders involving white victims were committed by other white people

Source.

What is the hell is the problem with white culture? Huh
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Tory Election, pick your poison. on: July 10, 2016, 10:27:39 pm
Write-in: Disraeli
11  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who will Dave Leip vote for? on: July 10, 2016, 10:26:00 pm
Please stop making these threads.

Thanks,
Dave
12  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of BlackLivesMatter on: July 10, 2016, 10:24:43 pm
Horrible organization with a racist agenda.


we're not talking about the Republican Party in this thread
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Are you willing to use the term "radical islamic terrorism"? on: July 08, 2016, 02:24:43 pm
No, and the fact that Republican politicians and their allies in the media relentlessly concern troll about President Obama's refusal to use that term is nothing less than a dog whistle for the (significant) segment of their voter base who believe that Obama is an anti-American Muslim Trojan Horse.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Is the destruction and annihilation of culture in the US inevitable? on: July 08, 2016, 01:40:09 pm
Girls is awesome terrible . Like almost as good bad as Family Guy.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Was Donald Trump's tweet anti-Semitic? on: July 04, 2016, 12:31:42 pm
Between this and Cruz's "New York Values" I declare that it is pretty obvious that the Republican Party's knee-jerk support for Israel is based entirely on evangelical End Times prophecies and racist/anti-Muslim bigotry.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why are American "liberals" so enamored by protectionism? on: July 02, 2016, 02:46:07 pm
The premise is faulty.  Liberals in America (certainly the elected democratic pols) are the possibly least protectionist and most economically right-wing of all of the OECD countries.

Protectionism is most popular among conservatives in America because there's a significant part of the coalition that is older and uneducated and therefore gets screwed the hardest by trade agreements.  Contrast with the upper middle class educated professionals that are a significant part of the Democratic base.

News to me and exit polls everywhere!

A sizable majority of voters with graduate degrees vote Democratic these days.

That by no means exclusively indicates a high income (finance majors with bachelor's degrees are going to make a lot more than education majors with a PhD), and it ignores the fact that college graduates as a whole still voted substantially Republican in 2014.  Let's not even get into the very, very clear evidence that Republican voting and a higher income are directly linked.

Affluent and educated people are AT LEAST as much of a part of the GOP's coalition as they are to the Democrats' coalition.  That should be beyond debate, but I guess it's not?

Yeah, I don't dispute that Rs are more likely to hold college degrees and be a little wealthier (the fact that they are all white helps in both of these regards).  But Democrats are more likely to hold postgraduate degrees, and that group of postgraduates in combination with the gigantic portion of the democratic party that is more identity-politics motivated than class-motivated has, I think, substantially if not totally neutered the class angle in the Democratic party in the past few decades.

Which is why in opinion polls Democratic voters (not really Democratic politicians) tend to favor protectionism less than the Republicans.

Why not, considering that it is just not true? Don't let RINO Tom fool you with his posturing - Obama won the college-educated vote both times. Everyone wants to pretend like their side is "smarter" - as in most issues (climate change, voter suppression, etc.), actual statistics back up our side.

To be fair to RINO Tom, a majority of college-educated voters going for Obama is a pretty poor measure of the overall partisan preferences (let alone, political views) of those voters. Let's be honest, Obama is exactly the kind of Democratic nominee who can appeal to the kinds of college-educated Republican voters who live in major metropolitan areas (especially in more liberal parts of the country, e.g. the Northeast and the SF Bay Area - not coincidentally, the ancestral homeland of the so-called "Rockefeller Republicans" Tongue ) and who are at the very least, somewhat wary of contemporary American social conservatism (specifically the kind that is explicitly political - i.e. the Religious Right), if they're not outright liberal on sociocultural issues (which many of them are, in fact). However, they are still quite Republican in downballot races, and are certainly still more likely to vote GOP at the presidential level if the Republican ticket has a Romney or a Ryan on it instead of a Palin or (God Forbid) a Trump.

These are the kinds of people who have historically identified with the Republican Party because the Republicans are the party of the wealthier classes (which is still pretty true FTR, though the Democrats have in recent years gotten better at attracting wealthier voters, particularly in presidential elections - hence, Obama winning over a significant number of "Rockefeller Republican" voters Tongue) and the related view that the Republican Party has been - for as long as they can remember - the "responsible" party. If you notice, this is very similar to the upper class belief in the UK that the Tories are the "natural party of government." In other words, these are the people who have always though that politics should be a matter of responsible governance by an enlightened class that is inspired by a paternalistic view of public service and stewardship of the US government. This class tends to shun the political "extremes" and populist grassroots movements of both Left and Right; hence, they have been deeply disturbed by the right-wing populist turn of the Republican Party in recent years, with the Trump campaign being their ultimate nightmare scenario for the party that they have historically identified with.

I think that it is harder to notice this demographic both because their influence within the GOP has been declining and they tend to be clustered in major metropolitan areas in districts and regions that have become more and more Democratic in recent decades. Furthermore, as I previously stated these voters are becoming ever more alienated from the modern Republican Party in presidential elections. Thus, these highly affluent and educated Republicans don't really have a political home anymore - at  least, at the national level.

Finally, it is important to note that the college-educated population in the US has an increasing proportion of single women, young people, members of the LGBT community, and ethnic/racial minorities - all groups that are obviously considerably more liberal than average. Consequently, the Democratic Party's current advantage with college-educated voters is very much driven by these demographics. Unfortunately for Democrats, many of these voters tend to vote mainly in presidential elections and thus, are underrepresented in downballot races. Tongue - which of course, drives up Republican margins in those races.

Anyway, this turned to out be quite an effortpost. Tongue
17  General Politics / International General Discussion / 107 Nobel laureates sign letter blasting Greenpeace over GMOs on: June 30, 2016, 11:15:47 am
Good for these scientists. We need more people speaking out against irrational, anti-scientific woo - regardless of where it comes from politically or ideologically.

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More than 100 Nobel laureates have signed a letter urging Greenpeace to end its opposition to genetically modified organisms (GMOs). The letter asks Greenpeace to cease its efforts to block introduction of a genetically engineered strain of rice that supporters say could reduce Vitamin-A deficiencies causing blindness and death in children in the developing world.

"We urge Greenpeace and its supporters to re-examine the experience of farmers and consumers worldwide with crops and foods improved through biotechnology, recognize the findings of authoritative scientific bodies and regulatory agencies, and abandon their campaign against 'GMOs' in general and Golden Rice in particular," the letter states.

The letter campaign was organized by Richard Roberts, chief scientific officer of New England Biolabs and, with Phillip Sharp, the winner of the 1993 Nobel Prize in physiology or medicine for the discovery of genetic sequences known as introns. The campaign has a website, supportprecisionagriculture.org, that includes a running list of the signatories, and the group plans to hold a news conference Thursday morning at the National Press Club in Washington.

“We’re scientists. We understand the logic of science. It's easy to see what Greenpeace is doing is damaging and is anti-science," Roberts told The Washington Post. “Greenpeace initially, and then some of their allies, deliberately went out of their way to scare people. It was a way for them to raise money for their cause."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2016/06/29/more-than-100-nobel-laureates-take-on-greenpeace-over-gmo-stance/
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why are American "liberals" so enamored by protectionism? on: June 29, 2016, 05:37:41 pm
The premise is faulty.  Liberals in America (certainly the elected democratic pols) are the possibly least protectionist and most economically right-wing of all of the OECD countries.

Protectionism is most popular among conservatives in America because there's a significant part of the coalition that is older and uneducated and therefore gets screwed the hardest by trade agreements.  Contrast with the upper middle class educated professionals that are a significant part of the Democratic base.

News to me and exit polls everywhere!

A sizable majority of voters with graduate degrees vote Democratic these days.
19  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should a college degree be required to vote? on: June 29, 2016, 05:03:01 pm
Guys, guys, this doesn't have to an either/or decision. We can raise the voting age to 21, have poll taxes, and have both college degree and property owning requirements! Grin

Moderate compromise! I love people like you (almost as much as I love the poorly educated!)

Yet you don't want them to have the vote. Sad!
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should a college degree be required to vote? on: June 29, 2016, 04:59:48 pm
I think only atlas users should be able to vote. How can we trust people the vote if they don't know by heart the counties where Mitt Romney had the best swing in female Swedish-American plumbers?

Or the ability to make maps of said swing, for that matter.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you know any blue collar people? on: June 28, 2016, 02:41:33 pm
Yes, several. One example that is relevant to Atlas: last summer, I talked to the men who remodeled my family's home. All of them said that they despised Donald Trump (this was shortly after he announced his campaign), and all but one of them (a Latino) were white men - including the general contractor.

22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Why are American "liberals" so enamored by protectionism? on: June 28, 2016, 02:33:38 pm
It's literally the most nationalistic, xenophobic economic policy that we have ever had the misfortune of experiencing. It is the ultimate punishment for consumers (i.e. all Americans, but especially those who can't afford to buy things at higher prices - i.e. the working people and the poor whom liberals/progressives/the Left say they care about) and the ultimate godsend for American capitalists. Furthermore, it literally cuts the United States off from the global economy which we all benefit from to one extent or the other.

Thank the heavens that liberal icon Franklin Delano Roosevelt managed to see through the bullsh**t of the right-wing Republican protectionists of his day and led the successful effort to really open the US to global markets.

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...it was U.S. reciprocal trade policy — a policy that had changed little since its inception during the New Deal — combined with a newfound determination to play a leading role in world affairs, that guided U.S. policymakers in the mid-1940s towards a new post-war international economic order — an economic order still largely in operation to this day.

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This comprehensive approach, though not always pretty and sometimes contradictory, was nevertheless based on the simple principle that it is a fundamental responsibility of government — even a liberal capitalist government — to ensure that the free market is managed in such a way as to produce the greatest good for the greatest number of people, not the other way around. With 16 million Americans under- or unemployed, one would think that any moves to endorse freer international trade would be accompanied by an even stronger effort to create jobs here at home, but based on the Senate’s recent rejection of President Obama’s jobs bill, it seems highly unlikely that this will be the case

[FDR’s Comprehensive Approach to Freer Trade

Posted on AAD as well.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trumpism on: June 28, 2016, 11:50:05 am
Both the US and Europe need more immigrants on account of their aging native-born populations. Who else will subsidize the rapidly growing retiree population since the share of the total population that are workers is declining?
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking: Multiple people stabbed at Neo-Nazi rally in Sacramento Capitol on: June 26, 2016, 07:07:28 pm
What the hell is the point of counter protesting groups everybody already know are horrible?

Well since Nazis are allowed to have rallies in the first place, is anyone surprised that this happens?
25  General Politics / Economics / Re: Un-skewed economic data on: June 26, 2016, 06:59:22 pm
ayy lmao
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