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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of John Bel Edwards on: November 25, 2015, 01:40:16 pm
10/10 FF
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / John Kasich vs. Jeb Bush on: November 25, 2015, 01:36:23 pm
Hard choice. Both have dangerously low levels of energy.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Five Black Lives Matter protesters shot in Minneapolis on: November 24, 2015, 10:31:59 am
Miski Noor, a media contact for Black Lives Matter, said “a group of white supremacists showed up at the protest, as they have done most nights.”

One of the three counterdemonstrators wore a mask, said Dana Jaehnert, who had been at the protest site since early evening.

When about a dozen protesters attempted to herd the group away from the area, Noor said, they “opened fire on about six protesters,” hitting five of them. Jaehnert said she heard four gunshots.


4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump: Claims he saw Arabs in New Jersey cheering during 9-11 on: November 23, 2015, 11:58:41 am
Trump is doubling down on his claims like the high-energy Alpha Boss he is.

Trump repeated the claim Sunday in an interview on ABC's "This Week" after host George Stephanopoulos explained that police had refuted any such rumors at the time.

"It did happen. I saw it," said Trump. "It was on television. I saw it."

"There were people that were cheering on the other side of New Jersey, where you have large Arab populations. They were cheering as the World Trade Center came down," he said.

"I know it might be not politically correct for you to talk about it," he added, "but there were people cheering as that building came down, as those buildings came down. And that tells you something."
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Against the normalisation of mental illness on: November 23, 2015, 11:49:32 am
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: When will Trump lose the lead permanently on: November 23, 2015, 11:36:19 am
7  General Politics / International General Discussion / Former South Korean President Kim Young-sam Dies at Age 87 on: November 21, 2015, 09:37:09 pm
Former South Korean President Kim Young Sam, who ended a period of military coups in the country and was forced to seek an international bailout, has died. He was 87.

Kim died Sunday morning from what is believed to be acute heart failure and a blood infection after being hospitalized Nov. 19 for high fever, Oh Byung Hee, chief of Seoul National University Hospital, said at a televised briefing.


8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why is Huckabee even running? on: November 18, 2015, 02:16:51 pm
It gives people a reason to talk about Mike Huckabee in 2015.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton ‘often confused’ says staffer in email on: November 18, 2015, 02:15:23 pm
Yes, SJWs are notorious for their bloodlust. Literally ISIS.
10  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The End of the "Age of Terrorism" on: November 14, 2015, 04:10:20 pm
It's obvious the multi trillion dollar "war on terror" didn't make us any safer.

11  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Paris Attacks on: November 14, 2015, 04:07:33 pm
Anyways, the leader of Hezbollah has condemned the attacks and all jihadi groups, and says he stands with France:
Yeah, and if these were Shia radicals they'd be praising the attack.

The Iranian-Saudi Cold War is destroying the Middle East, and bringing the fight to Europe
Have Shia radicals, or Iran or Hezbollah, ever attacked the West?

not sure if serious
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Liberalism lies in a pool of blood in Paris on: November 14, 2015, 12:05:10 pm
Go away back to Stormfront
13  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Italians and Jews in NY/NJ on: November 12, 2015, 09:50:46 pm
And the little Sephardic enclave of Deal, although only a drop in the bucket in terms of the overall Jewish population.  Romney and McCain both received 71% of the vote there.


Out of curiosity, what are some other Sephardic enclaves in the US?
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election Predictions / Re: Why does everybody think ... on: November 11, 2015, 01:22:49 pm
White people.

White New Englanders, specifically.
15  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Were the bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki morally justified? on: November 11, 2015, 01:13:49 pm
I'm a lazy so I'll ask - Why were those two cities chosen.?  It seems to me Truman could have bombed more populous areas if his only intention was to kill as many people as possible.

Much of Japan had already been brutally firebombed.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: GAME CHANGER on: November 11, 2015, 01:01:11 pm
Bob Dole supports this endorsement by Bob Dole.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / My in-depth analysis of last night's Republican debates on: November 11, 2015, 11:34:26 am
ayy lmao
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Why are people hating on Vitter? on: November 10, 2015, 01:37:04 pm
The people hating on Vitter are so gross. Why do they have such sh*tty attitudes? Angry
19  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: In what states are whites without college degrees more Democratic on: November 09, 2015, 11:24:30 am
There is actually a fairly objective answer to this, if you are willing to use 2008 Obama exit poll data in order to arrive at a conclusion (the exit polls then included "education by race" breakdowns). I realize this data is 7 years old, but it's about the best anybody is going to be able to do for answering the question for all 50 states from the same set of data. I've compiled it here.

Maroon states are those where college educated whites are more Democratic than whites without a college degree.

Green states are those where whites without a college degree are more Democratic than college educated whites.

Yellow states are statistically tied (less than 2 percentage points between each group).

Note: D.C. didn't have data on whites without college degrees (too small of a sample size) so I've left it yellow.

I actually think that for most of these yellow states and when dealing with "generic D" (a statewide or local candidate, for instance) who isn't black and/or Obama, non-college whites would be slightly more D than college whites. Some of the green ones (like Kentucky) would probably flip, too, though I haven't shown them here. Maybe something like this:

Yeah, Obama had unusually high (for a Democrat Tongue)  appeal to college-educated whites in 2008. Part of that was the economic meltdown, and part of that was the fact that the Republican ticket projected a more populist image (especially with Palin, who in some ways was a sign of things to come re: Trump Tongue).

The other thing, as you allude to, is that whites without degrees are, as a group, considerably more hostile to Obama (and by extension, Democrats in general -  particularly at the present time, though again, I suspect that more of that has to do with hostility toward Obama than hostility toward Democrats per se...) than college-educated whites are. Part of that is racial, but part of that is also class resentment - and tied to the urban-rural divide. When race and class factors are combined with the real sense that the increasingly globalized economy is leaving this group behind (and that said demographic is declining overall as a share of the population and electorate)....well, enter Donald Trump to tap into that. Tongue
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why doesn't the GOP have credible African-American conservative politicians? on: November 08, 2015, 02:28:18 pm
Because the GOP has successfully driven almost all but the most insanely right-wing black Republicans into the Democratic Party. You can read more about that here.

Also, it's not like the Republican Party's very (and increasingly) white base wants a "credible conservative politician" of any race. Many of them don't even want a politician in the typical sense. Hence, Trump and Carson.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sanders vs. Rubio on: November 08, 2015, 02:21:42 pm
Omg people stop pretending you are damn clairvoyants

But...but...muh maps/predictions Sad
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: If a Democrat wins the WH in 2016 on: November 08, 2015, 02:20:24 pm
Ted Cruz
23  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Tender Branson vs. Ben Carson on: November 08, 2015, 02:14:51 pm
Who would America trust more/less? Who do you trust more/less?
24  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Working class white protestants on: November 07, 2015, 07:47:10 pm
Keep in mind that by the time of the New Deal, the American working class outside the South was heavily Catholic, and that non-Southern Protestants (particularly in cities) were disproportionately (though certainly not exclusively) middle-class.

Also, remember that a lot of working-class white Protestants outside the South were of Southern (broadly defined) or border state extraction, so while they were not as heavily Democratic as those in the Solid South, I suspect that a lot of them had longstanding Democratic loyalties (not just because of their social class, either...)

But yes, working class white Protestants outside of the South were significantly less Democratic than the rest of the working class white electorate (especially Catholics, Jews, etc.).
25  General Politics / International General Discussion / Ahmed Chalabi dies at 71 on: November 03, 2015, 02:34:04 pm
Mr. Chalabi, who had lived outside Iraq since the 1950s, was central in peddling questionable and bogus information about Hussein’s weapons program and linking him to al-Qaeda. It was a narrative that found favorable ground with Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and their inner circle as military plans against Hussein crystallized.


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