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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Killer Presidents on: October 28, 2014, 05:46:35 pm
what about Obama's kill list
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Ideologically, who was more right-wing between these two Presidents? on: October 28, 2014, 05:45:09 pm
They were both very right-wing in their own ways.
3  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Battle of the polar opposites: FDR vs. RWR on: October 28, 2014, 05:44:23 pm
FDR and I don't think this is debatable
4  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Ronald Reagan vs. Richard Nixon on: October 28, 2014, 05:42:33 pm
NOTA
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / FBI Searches Home Of Suspected Post-Snowden Intelligence Leaker on: October 28, 2014, 05:35:08 pm
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NEW YORK -- The FBI has searched the Northern Virginia home of a government contractor suspected of disclosing details of the U.S. government's terrorist watch list to The Intercept, according to Yahoo News.

Yahoo’s Michael Isikoff reported Monday that the federal prosecutors have opened up a criminal investigation into disclosures from the suspected “second leaker,” a reference to the source not being former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden.

In August, The Intercept’s Jeremy Scahill and Ryan Devereaux reported that nearly half of the 680,000 people on the U.S. database of terrorist suspects “are not connected to any known terrorist group.” They described the documents they received as having been provided by a “source in the intelligence community.”

Scahill, along with Intercept co-founders Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras, has reported extensively on classified documents provided by Snowden. But Poitras’s new documentary, Citizenfour, makes clear that Snowden was not Scahill's source. In fact, Snowden appears shocked at the end of the film about the degree of information provided by the "second leaker."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/27/fbi-searches-home-of-suspect_n_6056992.html

6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary: "Businesses don't create jobs" on: October 26, 2014, 07:50:14 pm
If you actually watched the video, she was clearly talking about "trickle-down" economics. You know, the Republican Party's brilliant idea that giving rich people more money will make everyone richer.

"It has been tried..and it has failed."

I don't see how this is controversial, unless you're a dumb or you're trying to divert attention away from the Republican Party's dismal record at job creation.

7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The "I voted" thread on: October 26, 2014, 07:45:50 pm
Voted today. Straight ticket D, for the most part.
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: October 2014 General Election - President and Regional Senators on: October 26, 2014, 04:43:44 pm
President and Vice President
1. Marokai/Antonio

Mideast Senator
1. windjammer
9  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Jack Bruce (Cream bassist/singer) dead at 71 on: October 25, 2014, 11:01:22 am
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Jack Bruce, bassist from 1960s band Cream, has died aged 71, his publicist confirms.

Legendary supergroup Cream, which also included Eric Clapton and Ginger Baker, are now considered one of the most important bands in rock history.

They sold 35 million albums in just over two years and were given the first ever platinum disc for Wheels of Fire.

Bruce wrote and sang most of the songs, including "I Feel Free" and "Sunshine Of Your Love".

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-29772926

RIP.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is Bushie the most selfish Atlas poster? on: October 24, 2014, 08:41:26 pm
"Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others."
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Steve King: "I don’t expect to meet [gays] should I make it to heaven." on: October 24, 2014, 06:31:54 pm
Louie Gohmert must have felt a disturbance in the force because he went out and made a more ridiculous comment:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/louie-gohmert-gays-military-massages

Don't worry, King will be back next week-if not before-in the latest installment of "But wait-there's more!" series of the Congressional Clown Caucus.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Ted Cruz staffer trolls hard on Twitter on: October 24, 2014, 02:41:39 pm


13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you hire Bushie for a $20/hour job? on: October 23, 2014, 09:33:49 pm
If I don't make $20/hour, why should he?

This.

I got a freaking BACHELOR'S degree and work full time at an office and I don't make that much money.  Why the hell should Bushie?

Meh. Bushie got e-degree in e-something. He deserved better.

Man, I can't imagine Bushie in a college setting.  Did he go to a real school or one of Pat Robertson's shams?

He went to an Oklahoma state school, IIRC.
14  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Is Obama finished? on: October 23, 2014, 06:36:44 pm
Obama 2016!
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: RNC: America needs a principled conservative leader-like George W. Bush on: October 23, 2014, 12:44:59 pm
Woohoo we're expanding Medicaid and passing immigration reform!!!

Don't distract us with your liberal nitpicking.

EDIT: Fair enough. But consider that these are the same people who are supposedly more attentive, educated, and informed about politics than most everyone else. The bar seems depressingly low.
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / RNC: America needs a principled conservative leader-like George W. Bush on: October 23, 2014, 12:40:35 pm
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In a fundraising email sent out Tuesday, RNC chief operating officer Sara Armstrong promised Republicans would bring the leadership qualities of President George W. Bush to the Senate if they prevailed in the upcoming Nov. 4 midterm elections.

“President George W. Bush once said, ‘I will live and lead by these principles: to advance my convictions with civility, to pursue the public interest with courage, to speak for greater justice and compassion, to call for responsibility and try to live it as well,’” the email starts.

“That’s what America needs right now: a big dose of leadership. The kind of principled conservative leadership President Bush provided our great nation. And the kind of leadership Republicans will deliver when we win a Senate majority.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/miss-him-yet-republicans-promise-to-bring-back-the-w-days-if-they-can-take-the-senate/
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Rank Each State on the Spectrum on: October 22, 2014, 04:02:56 pm
How on earth is Connecticut "Populist Leaning Liberal"?

Isn't it the richest state in the Union?

Not everyone in CT is rich, believe it or not. Yes, the Gold Coast and parts of the rest of the state are insane, but many of CT's towns and cities are certainly not rich.

Check the results of elections by town maps in CT.  Notice any patterns?
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / If you thought Obama's response to Ebola hasn't been ideal... on: October 21, 2014, 09:27:59 pm
...just thank whatever deity you may or may not believe in that we're not having a repeat of the AIDS crisis.


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White House Press Briefing — Oct. 15, 1982

Q: Larry, does the President have any reaction to the announcement—the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, that AIDS is now an epidemic and have over 600 cases?
   MR. SPEAKES: What’s AIDS?
   Q: Over a third of them have died. It’s known as “gay plague.” (Laughter.) No, it is. I mean it’s a pretty serious thing that one in every three people that get this have died. And I wondered if the President is aware of it?
    MR. SPEAKES: I don’t have it. Do you? (Laughter.)
    Q: No, I don’t.
    MR. SPEAKES: You didn’t answer my question.
    Q: Well, I just wondered, does the President—
    MR. SPEAKES: How do you know? (Laughter.)
    Q: In other words, the White House looks on this as a great joke?
    MR. SPEAKES: No, I don’t know anything about it, Lester.
    Q: Does the President, does anybody in the White House know about this epidemic, Larry?
    MR. SPEAKES: I don’t think so. I don’t think there’s been any—
    Q: Nobody knows?
    MR. SPEAKES: There has been no personal experience here, Lester.
    Q: No, I mean, I thought you were keeping—
    MR. SPEAKES: I checked thoroughly with Dr. Ruge this morning and he’s had no—(laughter)—no patients suffering from AIDS or whatever it is.
    Q: The President doesn’t have gay plague, is that what you’re saying or what?
    MR. SPEAKES: No, I didn’t say that.
    Q: Didn’t say that?
    MR. SPEAKES: I thought I heard you on the State Department over there. Why didn’t you stay there? (Laughter.)
    Q: Because I love you, Larry, that’s why. (Laughter.)
    MR. SPEAKES: Oh, I see. Just don’t put it in those terms, Lester. (Laughter.)
    Q: Oh, I retract that.
    MR. SPEAKES: I hope so.
    Q: It’s too late.



http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/times-the-reagan-white-house-press-briefing-erupted-with#25bzmmi

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Following discovery of the first cases in 1981, it soon became clear a national health crisis was developing. But President Reagan's response was "halting and ineffective," according to his biographer Lou Cannon. Those infected initially with this mysterious disease -- all gay men -- found themselves targeted with an unprecedented level of mean-spirited hostility.

A significant source of Reagan's support came from the newly identified religious right and the Moral Majority, a political-action group founded by the Rev. Jerry Falwell. AIDS became the tool, and gay men the target, for the politics of fear, hate and discrimination. Falwell said "AIDS is the wrath of God upon homosexuals." Reagan's communications director Pat Buchanan argued that AIDS is "nature's revenge on gay men."

With each passing month, death and suffering increased at a frightening rate. Scientists, researchers and health care professionals at every level expressed the need for funding. The response of the Reagan administration was indifference.

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Writing in the Washington Post in late 1985, Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Los Angeles, stated: "It is surprising that the president could remain silent as 6,000 Americans died, that he could fail to acknowledge the epidemic's existence. Perhaps his staff felt he had to, since many of his New Right supporters have raised money by campaigning against homosexuals."

Reagan would ultimately address the issue of AIDS while president. His remarks came May 31, 1987 (near the end of his second term), at the Third International Conference on AIDS in Washington. When he spoke, 36,058 Americans had been diagnosed with AIDS and 20,849 had died. The disease had spread to 113 countries, with more than 50,000 cases.

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/openforum/article/Reagan-s-AIDS-Legacy-Silence-equals-death-2751030.php
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / If Republicans take the Senate next month, how long will they control Congress? on: October 21, 2014, 08:18:27 pm
What are your predictions for how long the Republicans will control both houses of Congress?

Furthermore, what would be the consequences for the remaining two years of Obama's Presidency, and if the Democrats also win the Presidency in 2016?

20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Better President, of these two (Bill Clinton vs. Barack Obama) on: October 21, 2014, 05:57:19 pm
lol@not a single Republican voting for Obama.

Obviously Obama.
21  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Republican Party (1854-1874) on: October 17, 2014, 03:46:04 pm
If anything, I would say that it was a very grey area party that was very naive about the nature of wage slavery.  Mainly that they thought it was something that would suddenly go away sometime in the late 19th century but was actually there to stay.

Do you reckon that this idea that wage-labor is a temporary condition for working men is still a fixture of the Republican Party?

ie hard-working men will advance in society, eventually reaching the point where they're able to start their own businesses, where they can then provide opportunities for more workers to advance themselves and do likewise.

22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gamergate on: October 17, 2014, 02:26:43 pm
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“I want to say unequivocally, Gamergate did this to me,” she says. “If I’m saying this less on Twitter it’s because I feel fanning the flames will endanger my life even more. I know that many #gamergate supporters are trying their best to distance themselves from these events, but I agree with many others that feel the movement is inexorably linked with misogyny and sexism.

“Don’t take my word for it. Anyone can go to 8chan, a website entirely for Gamergaters. You can read what they post about me and other women. It’s not just casual sexism, it’s angry, violent sexism. They don’t see me, Zoe or Anita as people, just objects to be destroyed.

“I am a programmer. If I write code, I don’t evaluate the results by what I hope the code will be. I evaluate it by what happens when I compile it. I evaluate it by results. Right now, the result of #gamergate is this: Every woman I know in the industry is scared. Many have thought about quitting. Three of us have been the victims of death threats, and some of us have been driven from our homes.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/brianna-wu-and-the-human-cost-of-gamergate-every-woman-i-know-in-the-industry-is-scared/
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Some facts about homelessness in America on: October 17, 2014, 01:02:34 pm
Do you have numbers on how much of homelessness is voluntary like you keep asserting?

The poor have it good in America, you see. Too good.
24  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Is hating hip-hop racist? on: October 17, 2014, 12:50:37 pm
A lot of the people who hate hip-hop are racist.
25  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Is It Unfair that Caucasians Are So Diverse? on: October 16, 2014, 06:06:30 pm
Those other people all look the same to me.  Help?

Huh
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