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1876  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: The political polarization of religious and non-religious people in America on: February 10, 2013, 04:06:52 pm
(and is why white Catholics are still much more Democratic than white Protestants, even if both voted for Romney).

Don't let BRTD know this. Tongue
1877  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: The political polarization of religious and non-religious people in America on: February 10, 2013, 03:51:30 pm
Evangelical blacks are by far the most Democratic voter group.

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Of course, I realize that the religious vs non-religious divide really applies only to white non-Hispanic Americans, as there are plenty of churchgoing Democrats when you look at racial and ethnic minorities...)
1878  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: The political polarization of religious and non-religious people in America on: February 10, 2013, 03:41:03 pm
It's mostly a result of the culture wars. Quite a bit of American culture has changed over the last half century and thus politics will be divided for the forseable future between those who agree and disagree with those changes. These types of issues also tend to be ones with a more black-and-white feel to opinions on them, as opposed to taxes which at least in theory lends itself to an easier compromise.

So to go further with this...from what I understand, the "Culture Wars" are dominated (on both sides) by upper-middle class white activists and organizers. Make sense, since affluent people aren't as concerned with economic issues and daily needs as the working class in general, no? Tongue
1879  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / The political polarization of religious and non-religious people in America on: February 10, 2013, 03:31:51 pm
Why is this?

The two main political parties, by the way, weren't nearly as divided even 30 years ago by religious beliefs (or lack thereof) as they are today. There were plenty of Democrats who were regular church-goers just a generation ago, moreso than the current divide (Of course, I realize that the religious vs non-religious divide really applies only to white non-Hispanic Americans, as there are plenty of churchgoing Democrats when you look at racial and ethnic minorities....Tongue )

What changed? Is this a result of the "Culture Wars" or the growing urban-rural divide between the parties?
1880  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Al Franken on: February 09, 2013, 09:38:50 pm
One of the most massive HPs ever to set foot in Congress.  A bad comedian, a potty mouth, and an election thief who honestly is too extreme to be taken seriously in politics.  And ironically, he is also one of the lying liars who tells lies that he's so fond of putting down.

lol
1881  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Darwin's iPhone (on Libertarianism, Education and Evolutionary Psychology) on: February 09, 2013, 04:37:17 pm
Don't argue with human nature.





Etc.
1882  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Gingrich to Republicans: Don't sound like Romney on immigration on: February 09, 2013, 01:46:32 pm
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Newt Gingrich has a warning for the GOP: Don't sound like Mitt Romney on immigration.

Gingrich emailed supporters on Friday night ripping Romney for the way he discussed immigration during the 2012, and calling for Republicans to draw lessons from the exchanges to avoid the same type of rhetoric.

"It is difficult to understand how someone running for President of the United States, a country with more than 50 million Hispanic citizens, could fail to acknowledge that the American people should not take grandmothers who have been here 25 years, have deep family and community ties and forcibly expel them," he writes before attacking Romney for his comments on "self-deportation," warning that "rhetoric can kill the Republican Party among Latinos."


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"I write this because as the current immigration debate heats up it is critical for us to recognize that words and attitudes really matter," he writes. "Understanding what people hear matters. We may not mean to say what people hear we say. After decades in politics this is a lesson I have learned the hard way. As a party, we simply cannot continue with immigration rhetoric that in 2012 became catastrophic in large part because it was not grounded in reality."

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/282083-gingrich-to-gop-dont-sound-like-romney-on-immigration

I <3 Newt.
1883  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Perry County, Indiana on: February 09, 2013, 01:36:32 am
I wouldn't be surprised if there hasn't been a modest influx of outsiders who semi-dropout by moving to Tell City.  Look at a road map.  It is hard to get to Tell City.   It used to be easy by river, but now you likely only see barges hauling commodities.

Yeah, judging by Google Earth it looks like Interstate 64 pretty much bypasses Perry County.
1884  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Rand Paul to give Tea Party response to Obama State of the Union Address on: February 09, 2013, 01:29:28 am
lol
1885  General Politics / Economics / Re: How should retirements be funded? on: February 06, 2013, 10:42:46 pm
Link clearly has no ideas other than bankrupt "tax-and-spend-because-I-know-better-than-you" liberalism. Quite disappointing that his proposal to ensure the survival of Medicare is the introduction of death panels and presumably increased taxation; his proposal for SS is, one can only presume, to tax people more.

u trolling bro
1886  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: So why do these shootings happen so often in the United States? on: February 06, 2013, 06:54:29 pm
I offer up America's isolated, car-dependent rural, exurban, and suburban places (where most of these spree shootings happen, as it turns out) as a contributing factor to these shootings.

When you barely know any of your neighbors, when you spend so much time in the car, using the garage-door opener and the automatic sprinkler system, and when you're in a boring, insulated environment with not that much to do, , that can exacerbate existing traits within individuals in the population.

Most people don't "snap", but there are always outliers. And there are more of them, given the conditions stated above. That, and access to firearms and proximity to a place with a lot of people (school, theater, shopping mall) can combine in a tragic and deadly cocktail, so to speak.
1887  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Adolf Hitler on: February 06, 2013, 06:40:34 pm
insurance salesman

Figures.
1888  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Henry Ford on: February 06, 2013, 10:37:52 am
I prefer to idolize John D. Rockefeller.

I'm more of a J. P. Morgan man myself.
1889  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Ronald Reagan on: February 06, 2013, 10:34:36 am
One of the best Presidents of modern times, and though his accomplishments are frequently grossly exaggerated, both by his supporters and detractors (really, for a lot of stuff he was just there at the right place at the right time), they nevertheless improved government policy dramatically and for that he shouldn't be forgotten.

If by "improved government policy" you mean "made the government even more corrupt, non-responsive, and horrible in general" then yes, I agree he shouldn't be forgotten.
1890  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: President Obama to visit Israel this spring on: February 06, 2013, 10:12:39 am
Just another ploy by NOBAMA, the most anti-Israel President in history.
1891  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2012 U.S. Presidential Election Results / 47,076 people... on: February 06, 2013, 10:11:32 am
...in San Francisco voted for Romney.

Who are these people? Tongue
1892  General Politics / Individual Politics / Opinion of Ronald Reagan on: February 05, 2013, 11:58:45 am
As corrupt as Richard Nixon (Iran-Contra, where he literally said "My heart tells me that I didn't trade arms for hostages, but the facts say otherwise"...) and worse than Nixon on an ideological level (union-busting, pandering to bigots-both racists and homophobes), not to mention, beginning the Republican Party on its current trajectory of magical thinking (TAX CUTS PAY FOR THEMSELVES111) and increased military spending, a laughably corrupt Administration (doesn't he hold the record still for most officials indicted during an Administration?)...

Oh, but he was a "Great Communicator" who "restored America's pride" and "ended the Cold War." And Ronnie was great with the quips-nevermind that most of them were scripted!

Anyway, enough about Ronald Reagan the real figure. Let's talk about St. Reagan, the Prophet of the Conservative Ascendancy (TM) who single-handedly drove teh godless libruls from the country's institutions. Tongue

1893  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Adolf Hitler on: February 05, 2013, 11:49:51 am
no
1894  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Richard Nixon on: February 05, 2013, 11:47:24 am
The worst.
1895  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Arkansas GOPer: We'll take the country back from Obama and the minorities! on: February 04, 2013, 06:39:48 pm
The Native Americans and Mexicans called. They want their country back.
1896  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: What's the most important Bill of Rights amendment? on: February 03, 2013, 01:29:18 pm
1st, obviously.
1897  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Opinion of John Kerry on: February 02, 2013, 04:16:42 pm
Neutral. He's a good internationalist WASP diplomat like Dean Acheson and Averell Harriman were.

He's an Irish Catholic. Also, FF.

He's both, actually.
1898  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Forum IRC Channel on: February 01, 2013, 04:53:47 pm
Get in plz
1899  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Arizona on: January 30, 2013, 08:54:14 pm
Long-term: Yes.

Short-term: No. Lots of angry old white retirees, white flight exurban families, and Mormons. Turnout among Latinos is still pretty bad in a lot of places.
1900  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: question about the (new) IL 11 on: January 30, 2013, 12:22:18 pm
is it sort of the Chicago area equivalent of the Inland Empire? By that an area that is pretty exurban and far away from the city center and in many ways a metro area of itself (Aurora and Joliet were cities in their own right before the sprawl reached it). It's also an area that tends to be more affordable and certainly more downscale than the Winetkas and Lake Forests of the area. Also, an area that has traditionally been very conservative whose politics have recently changed due to a lot of working class people from the inner city moving there.

You mean non-whites (especially Latinos)?
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