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1876  Election Archive / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: PPP national (paid for by Warren donors): Clinton leads GOP field by 3-7 points on: January 31, 2015, 12:12:01 am
"Hillary Clinton was investigated by the House Oversight Committee for her role in failing to stop the attack on the US consulate in Benghazi which left  four Americans dead and for covering up her failure.  With this knowledge in mind, do you trust Clinton to keep Americans safe?"
1877  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Could the GOP Primary end in a brokered convention? on: January 31, 2015, 12:07:32 am
Not going to happen.
1878  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton aides already talking about VP options on: January 30, 2015, 11:58:18 pm
A Clinton-Kaine ticket is the best bet. Classic southerner, safe, won't embarass the ticket.


EDIT: After two solid presidential election victories by a Hawaiian born-and-raised, son of a black Kenyan father and a white Kansan mother, who had an Irish Catholic running mate from the Northeast who has a reputation for being "embarassing"/gaffe-prone, I'd like to think that the increasingly diverse presidential election-year electorate is largely past its fascination with "safe" white Southern male Democrats.
1879  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: To what extent will Bill campaign with Hillary? on: January 30, 2015, 11:57:44 pm
Same as he did in the 2008 primaries. Quite a bit.

And in the 2012 general as well. Oh wait...
1880  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Romney says he's not running on: January 30, 2015, 11:55:57 pm
Financial executives remember the attacks in 2012 all too well and, faced with the possibility of another Romney campaign, are wary of another round of negative attention.

"His formal entry will shine brighter light on some of the issues in the industry that people in the industry would rather not have a bright light on," said Jonathan Foster, managing director of the New York-based private equity firm Current Capital.

The midterm elections in November demonstrated that private equity -- which had already become a better-known household phrase thanks to the 2012 elections -- remains a rich target for criticism. In several key statewide races across the country, politicians with PE backgrounds, including gubernatorial candidates Bruce Rauner in Illinois and Tom Foley in Connecticut, were targeted by their opponents for their work in private equity as well as their massive wealth.

Rauner won his race, while Foley and other PE candidates, such as Senate hopeful Greg Orman in Kansas, were defeated.

Wall Street wasn't ready for another Mitt Romney campaign
1881  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which of these two American universities is more conservative? on: January 30, 2015, 10:12:45 pm
BYU easily...as fitting with Provo.

Texas A&M is pretty conservative though. It originally required military training for its students, and it still has many ties to the military. And its student body is heavily dominated by white evangelicals. Plus, it is Texas. 

I think the kind of conservatives you'd encounter at Texas A&M are more emblematic of contemporary American conservatism than those at BYU-even though BYU is obviously extremely conservative.  I guess it depends on who you see as more "conservative": Southern white evangelicals or Utah Mormons.
1882  General Politics / Individual Politics / Which of these two American universities is more conservative? on: January 30, 2015, 09:30:39 pm


1883  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which George W. Bush accomplishment is your favorite? on: January 30, 2015, 06:42:42 pm
Destroying the Republican Party was pretty cool.

Only their chances for the Presidency a few cycles. They've regained control of the Senate and House (in no small part due to Fake Democrats like Landroo and Prior in 2014 who refused to say that they had even voted for a twice-elected Democratic President and who were lukewarm supporters of him in Congress, anyway).

And the Republicans in Congress refuse to even attempt to seriously govern, because government itself is a socialist conspiracy. Or something. And they say it's Obama's fault that Congress is so pathetic, and together with their mouthpieces in the media who claim that America's first black President is "unpopular" with the public (who get their information from where? Oh, right, the media).

Or, to put it more concisely:

1884  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Romney says he's not running on: January 30, 2015, 06:31:14 pm
I am truly saddened. This man has such dignity, grace, and experience. Would've made a fantastic president.


1885  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Mitt Romney on: January 30, 2015, 06:28:43 pm
FF.  A great guy who's a wonderful father and family man. 

1886  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Bashar Assad on: January 29, 2015, 07:19:23 pm
Obviously an uber-HP. ISIS doesn't change that.

"Lesser evil" people can go f**k themselves.
Tell that to the people in the army who actually have to go over and risk there lives for this pointless operation.

That doesn't logically follow. You can oppose a bad war while at the same time support the rights of the people who are forced to fight that war (in this case, support the troops by getting them the hell out of there and coming back home, along with improving  the disgustingly inadequate health care that veterans get and supporting what is oftentimes, a difficult reintegration into American society).

I'd argue that the position laid out above is more morally consistent-and better, period-than the all too common bandwagon, superficial "Support the troops!" bumper-sticker crap that many people (including, I might add, a lot of people who have never served) use to make themselves feel superior to their political opponents.
1887  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: White Vote by State: 2008 on: January 29, 2015, 07:12:45 pm
How does Oregon become more Republican in 2008 when one adds the minority vote? 

1888  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Is George W. Bush still hurting the Republican Party on: January 29, 2015, 07:11:07 pm
No. I hear almost nothing about George W. Bush these days (other than that bizarre painting hobby) from any quarter. Since January 20, 2009, Republicans have decided that simply pretending that the years 2001-2009 didn't happen is a winning political strategy. And from the looks of their gains in the House and Senate, they may be on to something there.
1889  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Rep. Tim Ryan (D-OH-13) now pro-choice on: January 29, 2015, 07:06:28 pm
Getting increasingly difficult to take a public stand against abortion and win a Democratic primary these days. Even in Ohio, apparently.
1890  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Will Mesa, Arizona become one of the great American cities? on: January 29, 2015, 07:04:42 pm
Will Long Beach, California become one of the great American cities??
1891  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war on: January 29, 2015, 07:02:30 pm

good one.
1892  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Professor fired for criticizing Israel files suit against University of Illinois on: January 29, 2015, 07:00:50 pm
"criticizing Israel."

1893  General Discussion / History / Re: Forum dems/libs: Would you have supported the American Revolution? on: January 29, 2015, 06:58:58 pm
Let's see..my earliest known ancestors (English and Scottish) would have been in Pennsylvania and Virginia at the time.

Lean "yes", though I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I had some Loyalists in my line. Tongue
1894  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Can you imagine this forum will be if Cuomo actually runs for President? on: January 29, 2015, 06:53:45 pm
Imagine if it was Cuomo vs. Christie in the general.
1895  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What city would vote GOP first? on: January 29, 2015, 06:46:27 pm
Funny how LA  up until the middle of the twentieth century would be recognizable as one of the "WASPiest" large cities in America. The suburban counties adjacent to it (including but not limited to Orange County) were extremely Republican for a long time, and they were certainly not your stereotypical "moderate" or even "progressive" Republicans of the Northeastern cities or San Francisco, etc. An epicenter of the John Birch Society, one of Goldwater's best areas outside of Arizona and the Deep South, and obviously crucial to both Nixon and Reagan's campaigns for President, as well.

Clearly, New York City's Democratic tradition is far deeper in its historical roots.
1896  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Lindsey Graham launches exploratory committee on: January 29, 2015, 06:39:12 pm
At long last, Lindsey has the potential to break the glass ceiling for unmarried Southern Republican men!
1897  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Political Correctness and Hillary Clinton 2016 on: January 29, 2015, 06:27:31 pm
PC is a very broad term.  Some person saying "Why can't I say 'Negro' anymore??" is a lot different than, say, someone freaking out about a store putting "Merry Christmas" on their commercials. Most of the time, we should strive for being "politically correct," as it often just means being decent and understanding of those who aren't exactly like us and were often persecuted one way or the other in the past.

I suppose an example of how even that might go overboard is the Florida State mascot controversy.  FSU has a very structured, consistent and (IMO) honorable tradition involving a Seminole chief as its "mascot" (I put mascot in quotes because this is absolutely NOT a mascot in the way that some guy dressed up as a tiger jumping around and waving at fans is) that the Seminole tribe of FL fully supports.  It's no one else's place to call for that to be removed other than them, and they like it.  So issue over.  Now something like the Cleveland Indians or Washington Redskins?  Entirely different.

As if anyone is offended by that.

For what it's worth, I've seen a lot more of the Fox News, etc. concern trolling about "Happy Holidays" replacing "Merry Christmas" than actual instances of people being offended by Christian (or generically religious) language in American culture.

Complaining about perceived political correctness is much more prevalent in the US than political correctness itself (which I'd argue isn't even a real thing at this point, anyway). The ironic thing is that the term was originally devised by the Left (IIRC) as a way to mock the Establishment's acceptable conventions of speech. Somehow, I sincerely doubt that the intent of those originally using the term was to defend the right of Straight White Men to use bigoted speech against marginalized social groups without any consequences. Funny how language changes over time.
1898  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: RINO Mike Pence has agreed to Obamacare Medicaid expansion in Indiana... on: January 29, 2015, 11:37:50 am
I guess the standard for being a right-wing Governor is refusing to give poor people in your own state health care out of sheer spite for Obummer. Tongue
1899  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: When will Utah become competitive? on: January 29, 2015, 12:30:57 am
Can we stop it with these threads?

1900  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / When will Utah become competitive? on: January 29, 2015, 12:08:02 am
Isn't it on its way to legalizing gay marriage? Utah's a goner for the GOP.  Demographics is destiny. You heard it here first.
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