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1876  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Ok guys, I gotta confess... on: April 06, 2013, 10:20:59 pm
Branson is also typically thought of as the second capital of country music in the US (the first being Nashville obviously.)

What about Bakersfield, CA? Tongue
1877  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Ok guys, I gotta confess... on: April 06, 2013, 08:14:55 pm
Is there anything particularly amusing about Branson, Misery?

Tourist trap for Middle America, basically. And by "Middle America", I mean white Southerners (mostly), of course. A smattering of wealthy retirees live there, but other than that, it's still a rather poor Ozark town.
1878  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Ok guys, I gotta confess... on: April 06, 2013, 08:12:19 pm
...I spent the past week in Branson, Missouri with my family. Tongue

Go ahead and laugh.
1879  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: It's a good thing Bushie's kids live in Kenya and not Samoa on: April 06, 2013, 08:09:13 pm
Well, Samoans tend to be big people, so it makes sense.

Bushie is Samoan?  Who knew?

"How did Samoans in Oklahoma vote in 2012?"
1880  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: if Taylor Swift is indeed the intersection of Ben constine and myself, on: April 06, 2013, 08:03:10 pm
what in the


oh, Tweed thread.





I'm out.
1881  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to propose cuts to Social Security on: April 05, 2013, 12:04:19 pm
You'd think Obama would learn...

I think it's because the Democrats are taking the place of the Republicans as the "responsible" (mainstream) right-wing party in America.
1882  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to propose cuts to Social Security on: April 05, 2013, 11:53:50 am
..and now Boehner has already rejected it.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/obama-budget-medicare-social-security-89658.html?hp=t2_3
1883  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Obama to propose cuts to Social Security on: April 05, 2013, 11:51:18 am
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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama’s proposed budget will call for reductions in the growth of Social Security and other benefit programs while still insisting on more taxes from the wealthy in a renewed attempt to strike a broad deficit-cutting deal with Republicans, a senior administration official says.

The proposal aims for a compromise on the Fiscal 2014 budget by combining the president’s demand for higher taxes with GOP insistence on reductions in entitlement programs.

The official, who spoke on a condition of anonymity to describe a budget that has yet to be released, said Obama would reduce the federal government deficit by $1.8 trillion over 10 years. The president’s budget, the first of his second term, incorporates elements from his last offer to House Speaker John Boehner in December. Congressional Republicans rejected that proposal because of its demand for more than a $1 trillion in tax revenue.

A key feature of the plan Obama now is submitting for the federal budget year beginning Oct. 1 is a revised inflation adjustment called ‘‘chained CPI.’’ This new formula would effectively curb annual increases in a broad swath of government programs, but would have its biggest impact on Social Security. By encompassing Obama’s offer to Boehner, R-Ohio, the plan will also include reductions in Medicare spending, much of it by targeting payments to health care providers and drug companies.

http://bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2013/04/05/official-obama-proposes-cuts-social-security/wEAq2lB9Z4cdxrnSBxQwLI/story.html

1884  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Roger Ebert has died on: April 04, 2013, 03:17:40 pm
Sad Damn. RIP and condolences to his family and friends. Sad
1885  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Myths about "white evangelicals" on: April 04, 2013, 02:10:33 pm
1. In terms of political ramifications, evangelicals actually are pretty monolithic. Theological and denominational diversity aside, there's not much difference of opinion on abortion or the gays. An evangelical who is pro-choice and pro-gay marriage isn't an evangelical.

Abortion and gays aren't the only political issues, you know.

And even in terms of partisan breakdown-at least 20% of white evangelicals nationwide do not vote Republican. 1 in 5. That's not totally monolithic.

Now, if you look at black evangelicals....they're considerably more Democratic than white evangelicals are Republican.
1886  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Wealthy liberals vs wealthy conservatives on: April 04, 2013, 10:17:28 am
Ah, do I count as "wealthy" here, and if so, just where do I fit in, in this little duopoly that has been constructed?  Smiley

You're a wealthy Torie, is what you are. Cheesy
1887  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Gay Marriage Poll on: April 04, 2013, 10:16:49 am
I'm ambivalent about gay marriage as it at least resembles normal marriage

What's a "normal marriage"?
1888  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gohmert Links Gun Mag Limits -> SSM -> Bestiality on: April 04, 2013, 10:13:42 am
Pertinent image:

1889  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of BRTD's sense of humor on: April 04, 2013, 10:10:10 am
Not as funny as BRTD just being BRTD.
1890  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Diane Degette doesn't know how guns work on: April 04, 2013, 10:07:06 am
Hahaha! What a stupid thread!
1891  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Law grads sue schools over lack of jobs on: April 04, 2013, 10:04:10 am
That 97% rate that was advertised by a third rate law school was probably false, so the lawsuit may have merit.

It is depressing how many local judges around my hood graduated from that Law School. Their lack of mental acuity when it comes to anything somewhat complex in the civil law (the bulk of them then went on to be prosecutors en route to becoming judges so what they didn't learn in law school about the civil law and how to approach it, and how to read cases and so forth, was never learned later, even if they have the IQ to be able to learn it, and many don't), is a constant worry when writing motions for these drones to read. One needs to dumb it down, and repeat, and so forth.

Louie Gohmert was a judge. Sad  Got his law degree from Baylor University in Texas. Tongue
1892  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gohmert Links Gun Mag Limits -> SSM -> Bestiality on: April 03, 2013, 10:31:47 pm
I cannot fathom how this man's mind works.

Just his? Or the entire Republican Party's?
^^^^^^^^^
As I've said elsewhere, the entire party is suffering from some sort of reality crushing psychosis. And I don't mean that in some sort of flipppant, dismissive way. Seriously. There is something mentally wrong with Republican voters.

Do you have a therapist referral for me Memphis?

You're fast becoming a lonely voice of reason in your party, IMHO. Tongue
1893  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: A very British thread on: April 03, 2013, 04:25:31 pm
I'm surprised that the "traditional working class" is only about 14% of the population. I guess they've been declining in population?

If you include Affluent Workers, Service Workers, and the Precariat into the definition of "Working Class"...that's over 60% of the population.
1894  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Social Conservatives on: April 03, 2013, 04:15:00 pm
The more interesting question is why the "Religious Right" has become actively involved in American politics in recent decades, particularly in light of religion's overall decline in America in the modern age. I suspect anxiety and fear over the overall decline of religiosity in America, especially in urban areas going back to WWII, and the connection in social/religious conservatives mind's between "secularism", Communism, liberalism (though, it is important to note that liberal intellectual elites have not always been so secular!), and overall depravity (according to the beliefs of social conservatives) has a lot to do with this.

1895  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: PPP's national Conspiracy Poll on: April 03, 2013, 04:06:38 pm
Lack of trust in experts is our nation's greatest mental health problem.

Many of the "best and the brightest" in America were wrong about many things (Vietnam being an obvious example).
1896  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gohmert Links Gun Mag Limits -> SSM -> Bestiality on: April 03, 2013, 04:02:51 pm
I cannot fathom how this man's mind works.

Just his? Or the entire Republican Party's?
^^^^^^^^^
As I've said elsewhere, the entire party is suffering from some sort of reality crushing psychosis. And I don't mean that in some sort of flipppant, dismissive way. Seriously. There is something mentally wrong with Republican voters.

They've been told a million times that they alone are the "real" Americans, yet they are declining as a share of the population and their overall influence in culture is becoming more irrelevant. But because of America's messed up political system, they continue to have disproportionate influence in politics.
1897  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: GOP declares "War on Blowjobs", Ken Cuccinelli to lead the charge on: April 03, 2013, 03:54:38 pm
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/cuccinelli-wants-rehearing-virginias-anti-sodomy-law

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Last month, three judges on the US Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit deemed a Virginia anti-sodomy law unconstitutional. The provision, part of the state's "Crimes Against Nature" law, has been moot since the 2003 US Supreme Court decision overruled state laws barring consensual gay sex, but Virginia has kept the prohibition on the books.

Now Virginia attorney general and Republican gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli is asking the full 4th Circuit to reconsider the case. Cuccinelli wants the court to revive the prohibition on consensual anal and oral sex, for both gay and straight people. (The case at hand involves consensual, heterosexual oral sex.)

Small government.

Conservative Catholic politician.

Prude. Tongue
1898  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Another suspicious poster on: April 02, 2013, 07:06:16 pm
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=10587;sa=showPosts

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=10587

It looks like an old friend of the Atlas is back...for now. Tongue

1899  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Opinion of Jesus Christ on: April 02, 2013, 04:57:56 pm
In my view, Jesus is nothing more than a fairy tale character regardless of his reality in whatever sense because of the worship of his legend.

What do you have against fairy tale characters, many of whom are more "real" than human beings who actually lived in terms of their impact on human life?  "Fictional" versus "Nonfictional" is a fairly irrelevant distinction.

Could you be so kind as to name a few?

Snow White is, in a very real sense, really a great deal more real than, for instance, Louie Gohmert. Likewise Princess Kaguya and her suitors are more real than almost the entire Japan Restoration Party and Movimento 5 Stelle combined. At this point it's an open question whether or not Vasilisa the Beautiful and Finist the Falcon are more real than Vladimir Putin.

Cheesy

In all seriousness, the line between "real" and "imaginary" or "fictional" is blurry at the best of times and more or less meaningless.  People create the reality that they need to help comprehend the world and that's not a bad thing.  Is a fictional character any less real than a dead person you never met and will never meet, or a celebrity you've followed in the press for ages but is totally out of your realm of reference?  To you, there's no real distinction that matters in a practical sense.

Well I think the criticism from the anti-religious standpoint would be that there's a distinction between the honestly fictional (like Snow White) and the fictional which tries to pass itself off as real (such as religions based on the testimony of miracles). You're essentially desiring the masses to live their lives according to a particular truth, all the while thinking that it is a lie in your heart.

One could say that all systems of morality are particular to the cultural and historical context in which they are located. But that doesn't mean they aren't relevant for those contexts.
1900  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Matt Salmon, GOP Congressman, Does Not Support Gay Marriage Despite Gay Son on: April 02, 2013, 04:31:31 pm
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Rep. Matt Salmon (R-Ariz.) said Sunday that he did not support gay marriage despite having a gay son, drawing a sharp contrast to another elected Republican, Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio, who came out for gay marriage after his son came out to him.

"I don't support gay marriage," Salmon told Phoenix station KTVK in an interview that aired Sunday. "My son and I have had a lot of dialogue about it. I will say this: you know, my son is by far one of the most important people in my life. I love him more than I can say."

Salmon said he didn't believe his son chose to be gay. A host then asked why he should be denied the right to marry if he didn't choose to be gay.

"My view is while I don't believe we should be vitriolic and try to enact harmful policies, by the same token, I'm just not there as far as believing in my heart that we should change 2,000 years of social policy in favor of a redefinition of the family," he responded.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/01/matt-salmon-gay-marriage_n_2992362.html

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