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1876  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Link on: March 18, 2014, 05:27:23 pm
I remember him specifically complaining about how Americans try to keep people alive who "really shouldn't live."

Class act, Link.
1877  General Politics / Individual Politics / Opinion of the English Poor Law Amendment Act of 1834 on: March 18, 2014, 05:25:18 pm

1878  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Ryan to meet with Congressional Black Caucus after botched poverty remarks on: March 18, 2014, 05:20:57 pm
I just don't get why it seems like everything anyone says is a "dog whistle" in the minds of liberals. Especially when losing a substantial share of the minority vote hurts Republicans -- why, logically, would they do a racial dog whistle?

Because it brings out the types of people who do vote Republican on a regular basis, particularly nowadays?
1879  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: More evidence North Carolina is now Art Pope's corporate fiefdom on: March 18, 2014, 05:08:55 pm
Duke Energy=the Republican idea of a "small business."
1880  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: EP elections 2014 on: March 17, 2014, 06:56:10 pm
1881  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Your internet self vs. your real self. on: March 17, 2014, 06:39:27 pm
Pop dehydrates you and is unhealthy sure, but it's his body and it's clear that he prefers to drink pop.


The second part of his post is pure cringe.
1882  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / From the Atlantic: Republicans Can't Win With White Voters Alone on: March 17, 2014, 11:03:44 am
Article is from September 2013, but still relevant.

Initially most Republican leaders viewed Obama's reelection as a demographic wake-up call for their party. They did so with good reason. Despite the lackluster economy, Obama surprised many observers by winning 51 percent of the popular vote, garnering 332 Electoral College votes, and outpolling Mitt Romney by nearly 5 million ballots. The president's victory meant that Democrats had carried the popular vote in five of the previous six presidential elections, matching the Republican record from 1968 to 1988. Obama notched striking gains among both Hispanics and Asian-Americans, equaled the overall 80 percent of nonwhite voters that he carried in 2008, and amassed a solid 60 percent majority among voters under 30 (who are themselves heavily diverse). Although many Republican analysts predicted Obama could not replicate the enthusiasm he generated in 2008, minorities and young people both increased their share of the overall vote, as whites fell to 72 percent of the electorate, the lowest level ever. All of this allowed Obama to win his unexpectedly comfortable victory, even though his performance among white voters deteriorated from 43 percent in 2008 to just 39 percent in 2012. Romney, by winning 59 percent of whites, roughly equaled the best performances ever among them by a Republican challenger (essentially matching Dwight Eisenhower in 1952 and George H.W. Bush in 1988) and actually exceeded the 56 percent of whites that Reagan won in 1980 (although not the 64 percent peak the Gipper reached during his reelection tsunami).


But through 2013, the sense of demographic urgency inside the GOP has palpably dissipated. Instead, an array of conservative analysts has advanced a competing theory for Romney's defeat: He failed to generate a big enough margin among whites. Sean Trende, a writer for the conservative-leaning website RealClearPolitics, has promulgated the most comprehensive version of this argument. Using census figures, Trende insists that Romney failed to turn out about 5 million to 6.5 million white voters who should have voted, most of them "downscale, Northern, rural whites" demographically similar to voters who flocked to Ross Perot in 1992.


On both the turnout and margin fronts, a whites-first strategy would face entrenched, structural challenges. For Republicans to increase the white share of the electorate in 2016 or beyond would require them to reverse the virtually uninterrupted trajectory of the past three decades. According to the NJ exit-poll analysis, the white share of the total vote has declined in every election since 1980, except in 1992, when it ticked up to 88 percent (from 85 percent in 1988) amid the interest in Perot's quirky third-party bid. Otherwise, this decline has persisted through years of both high and low overall turnout. Even in 2004, when George W. Bush's state-of-the-art microtargeting and turnout operation allowed Republicans to equal Democrats as a share of the total vote for the only time in the history of polling, whites' share dropped 4 percentage points from 2000. Throughout 2012, many Republicans anticipated that the white proportion of the vote would increase from 2008 and even quietly based their polling on that assumption; but, ultimately, the white share of the vote followed the long-term trend and fell to 72 percent -- exactly the level that Obama campaign manager Jim Messina projected early in the year. In a mirrored development, the minority share of the vote rose to 28 percent, 2 percentage points above 2008 and more than double the 12 percent level for Bill Clinton's first victory in 1992.


To shatter that band, and return to the margins among whites they enjoyed under Reagan, Republicans would need to overcome another set of demographic changes. Just as the overall composition of the country is changing, so is the nature of the white electorate. These changes are generally displacing white groups that vote overwhelmingly Republican with white groups in which Democrats run more competitively. That dynamic makes the recent GOP performance among whites even more impressive -- but also shows the difficulty of climbing still further. The shifts are visible across several dimensions. Republicans now reliably run better among whites without a college education than those with at least a four-year degree. In 1984, those noncollege whites represented 62 percent of the total vote, while college-educated whites constituted just 27 percent. That meant working-class whites represented more than two-thirds of all white voters. But since then, according to the exit polls, the share of the vote cast by those working-class whites has declined in every election except 2000, hitting a low of 36 percent in 2012. Meanwhile, the share of college-educated whites grew through the 1990s and has fluctuated in a narrow range since. In 2012, the exit poll found, college-educated whites also cast 36 percent of the vote, marking the first time they have equaled working-class whites.

More: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/09/republicans-cant-win-with-white-voters-alone/279436/
1883  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Have there been other times in history where a party had a demographic crisis? on: March 17, 2014, 10:47:50 am
If trends continue, then Democrats will be in a crisis regarding the white vote.
Well yes and no. If the Dems moved the hard-left yes but also it depends on geography  where more whites are moving back to the cities where its mostly Dem but it does depend on where in these cities that they move to. Like Southern Brooklyn is not as as Dem as the rest of New York City.

Also  more whites are moving away from the evangelical religion which doesn't favor the GOP or whites are identifying as "no religion". More college educated white women are more Dem than the white vote as a whole. McCain and Obama spilt the college educated white women vote in 2008 and Romney won the college educated white women vote in 2012 by 6 points. Also the 18-29 White Demographic did vote for Romney by 7 points in 2012 but the white vote was won by Romney as a whole by 21 points(60-39%) so white youth aren't as loyal to voting GOP as older whites.

No, he won the votes of white women as a whole. And anyway, I think the more important difference re: voting patterns for white women is not level of education, but marital status.
1884  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Sandra Fluke on: March 17, 2014, 10:31:45 am
1885  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Senate election in Kentucky on: March 17, 2014, 10:25:10 am
The Tea Party-Establishment distinction is a fiction invented by Republicans.
1886  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Write Bushie's cover letter, three words at a time on: March 17, 2014, 12:26:57 am
a good Christian
1887  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of this Observation Made by a College Professor of Racial Geography on: March 16, 2014, 07:34:39 pm
ITT: White people arguing over which region of the USA is more racist.
1888  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of these homes on: March 16, 2014, 07:02:57 pm
FWIW: All three are in Atherton, CA.
1889  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / From OpenSecrets: Partisan Breakdown of Top 5 Donor Industry Sectors (2013-2014) on: March 16, 2014, 04:22:11 pm
1. Finance/Insurance/Real Estate

Democrats:  34.3%
Republicans: 58.9%

2. Other:

Democrats: 46.3%   
Republicans: 41.1%

3. Ideology/Single-Issue   

Total: $69,554,912   
Democrats: 38.0%   

4. Miscellaneous Business   

Total: $67,529,031   
Democrats: 36.5%

5. Lawyers & Lobbyists

Total: $53,480,881   
Democrats: 62.0%   

More: https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/

Each of the top 5 industries/sectors donated over $50 million (!) this past election cycle.
1890  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who is our most SWPL poster? on: March 16, 2014, 04:07:35 pm
Naso: SWPL, Middle America version
BRTD: SWPL, hipster urban version
benconstine: SWPL, Moderate Hero/boring version
1891  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post something you admire about the previous poster on: March 16, 2014, 04:06:17 pm
His passion for the Irish-American historical experience brings out the mick in me! Tongue
1892  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gun Control Advocates Turn to Wall Street for Help on: March 16, 2014, 04:05:03 pm
The NRA is the darling of gun manufacturers. It's not like they represent working-class America any better than urban gun control advocates.
1893  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of Waffle House on: March 16, 2014, 04:02:31 pm
I think I've been to one once.

Never again.
1894  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of George Wallace on: March 16, 2014, 04:00:16 pm
Generally not a fan of racist political opportunism.
1895  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of these homes on: March 16, 2014, 03:55:02 pm
Only the vilest of class enemies would live there.

Someone is jealous.
1896  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NRA opposition likely dooms Obama's nominee for Surgeon General on: March 16, 2014, 03:53:38 pm
Who cares about the NRA? Call their bluff. They don't represent the views of most gun owners, right?

Oh wait, they represent the views of gun manufacturers and their highly-paid DC lobbyists just fine. That's what democratic/liberal pluralism is all about! Tongue
1897  Forum Community / Forum Community / Opinion of these homes on: March 16, 2014, 03:50:45 pm

1898  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: I work at Walmart AMA on: March 16, 2014, 02:07:23 pm
Are using the words "union" and "organize" grounds for immediate firing?

(Just channeling TRUE LEFTIST energy. Wink )
1899  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Fred Phelps Dying on: March 16, 2014, 01:57:51 pm
You gotta wonder how much of the Phelps family's efforts to be shockingly hateful and offensive Real-Life Trolls are really just ways to attract controversy (after all, there is no such thing as bad publicity, etc.) and make a lot of money off of the inevitable lawsuits.

They are smart enough to know their First Amendment rights; they are mostly a family of lawyers, IIRC. And they may be selling horrific hate speech, but the important thing is that it sells. Even though the vast majority of Americans of all political and religious backgrounds despise the Phelps family, just the fact that they get the attention that they so crave is enough to keep them going, IMHO.
1900  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Fred Phelps is "on the edge of death" on: March 16, 2014, 01:48:26 pm
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