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1876  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: PM Series: Question 19 on: September 11, 2014, 11:13:21 pm
Say what you will about TNF's politics but he has been very consistent, honest, and clear about where he stands;  and from what I know of him, he does a far, far better job of "walking the walk" than most other armchair/wannabe revolutionaries here.

In other words: don't be so arrogant and condescending, AggregateDemand.
1877  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ukraine Crisis on: September 11, 2014, 11:00:34 pm
KIEV: The European Union has agreed to slap a new round of sanctions on Russia on Friday despite the ceasefire in Ukraine, triggering a swift threat of retaliation from Moscow.

However, European Council president Herman Van Rompuy said on Thursday the punitive measures, which target Russian oil and defence companies, could be lifted after a review of the truce at the end of September.

1878  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Civil War in Syria on: September 11, 2014, 10:52:21 pm
The Fiji UN force has been released.  In good health.

Well, that's good news.
1879  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: BREAKING: American forces bomb ISIS targets in Iraq on: September 11, 2014, 10:51:34 pm

ie: they're an even greater threat than we thought.
1880  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: It's been 13 years on: September 11, 2014, 10:48:52 pm
I remember when my dad woke me up; it was around 7am in California, so that was basically around the time the towers collapsed. Quite a vivid memory.

I later met someone (friend of my uncle) who lost his brother-in-law in the Pentagon that day
1881  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How much money would you need to call yourself rich? on: September 11, 2014, 10:40:30 pm
For the wealthy, placement on the basic class hierarchy and open parasitism (i.e. unearne income) matter far more than "earned" income.

Most wealthy people have actual jobs/careers, Snowstalker (unless you think the likes of Mitt Romney or the Forbest 400 are representative of most people).
1882  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Which GOP gubernatorial candidate's plan is better? on: September 11, 2014, 09:20:34 pm
Obviously both are pretty awful, but Plan B seems a little less awful I guess.
1883  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Eisenhower or McGovern? on: September 11, 2014, 09:18:27 pm
The one who didn't have the CIA overthrow democratically elected governments.
1884  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Are you a young rich white liberal? on: September 11, 2014, 05:37:33 pm
I don't think your social class is necessarily based on your income percentile (at least, not directly-though people with higher incomes than average do tend to have more wealth/assets than average, but not always).

I think a better way to measure this would be something like overall financial security/ability to plan for the future, along with what options you have in regards to your work (or whether you have to work at all!) or choice of job/career/vocation. Not as easy to calculate as household income, but probably more realistic, IMO.

1885  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which is a better example of Fake Democrats? on: September 11, 2014, 05:33:01 pm
There's no such thing as a fake Democrat.  If you identify as a Democrat, you're a Democrat.  Period.  I know, I know, God forbid that they don't toe the party line on every issue.

This. There is not and never has been a 'party line' within the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party is a mish-mash of competing, opposed groups with no coherent ideological basis. It is literally a party organized on the basis of 'not being the Republican Party' and nothing else.

Well tbh the GOP doesn't have a coherent ideological basis either.
1886  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Joel Osteen and the Happiness Gospel on: September 11, 2014, 05:20:52 pm
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmations_(New_Age)
1887  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Opinion of this statement on: September 11, 2014, 03:42:16 pm
This point seems to be endlessly lost on the Atlas Forum, but the Catholic Church's teachings on contraception are not made to win elections to become more popular; they're made because the Church is run by Catholics who actually believe in them. Doctrine is not determined by political calculations. The synod of bishops in Rome does not operate like the RNC, continually asking what changes need to made to its platform to attract swing voters. Unlike a political party, the Catholic Church has the burden of needing to actually believe in its teachings and is thus bound to them.

The Catholic Church is a political institution though.

1888  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Joseph de Maistre on: September 11, 2014, 03:41:19 pm
FF (protest vote)
1889  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "House Jewish caucus shrinks, causing worries over influence" on: September 10, 2014, 09:47:27 pm
Many American Jews aren't directly tied to Israel, of course-and even besides that, I can't think that Netanhyanu and Likud's actions sit well with a lot of the more secular and left-leaning Jews in the US.

Unfortunately, the more neo-conservative types have a lot of influence in American foreign policy that extends beyond their dominant role in the second Bush Administration (although as has been noted, the most knee-jerk pro-Israel group in the United States is the Christian Right-but their influence has peaked).
1890  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Who will win in Iowa? on: September 10, 2014, 04:21:54 pm
Saying things like "the building GOP wave" in 2014 is one of the litany of reasons for why Republicans in general are hard to take seriously these days.
1891  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Is "purple state" the right term for a state... on: September 10, 2014, 04:14:07 pm
Some states are a bit of a hybrid of the two (Colorado springs to mind..I'd say its population is somewhere in the middle on average but there are significant ideological factions in both parties that skew perceptions of its overall "polarization.")

1892  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Air Force to atheist Sgt.: "Recite 'So help me god' or get out" on: September 10, 2014, 04:10:29 pm
What's with the insecurity? The way some American Christians act, you'd think that they are in demographic decline and losing political influence...oh wait.
1893  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What is Jeb Bush's base? on: September 09, 2014, 04:06:54 pm
Republicans who recognize that he could do well in a general election, based on name recognition (already people are forgetting how awful his brother was-Americans generally have short political memories), ability to raise lots of money from the Establishment, his intelligence and competence (relative especially to most other Republicans these days), his appeal to educated/respectable (*ahem*) suburban, Chamber of Commerce type voters who feel somewhat alienated from the antics of the Tea Party, and also, potentially getting (more) support from Latinos, particularly in his home state of Florida-which is always a big GOP target.

As underwhelming a candidate Jeb would be, at least he wouldn't be overwhelmingly awful. Basically a more "competent" version of GWB (or even Mitt Romney).

The problem for him is getting past the Republican primaries, and then pivoting back toward the overall electorate-which, as Romney 2012 demonstrated, is an extremely awkward and haphazard process for a Republican nominee. The Republicans are significantly less representative of the overall American population-demographically speaking-than the Democrats are in the 2010s. That's the reality, whether they accept it or not.
1894  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Ben Carson Defends (Girlfriend Beating) Ray Rice on: September 09, 2014, 03:51:59 pm
Shameless pandering to the Republican base.
1895  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: WSJ with the sad story of our nation's struggling poor on: September 09, 2014, 03:43:10 pm
Moral of the story: Yankees are criminally-insane overspenders who put the economic security of our nation in jeopardy

1896  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Forbes: "President Obama’s administration has outperformed President Reagan’s" on: September 08, 2014, 09:26:05 pm
Who, in 1964, had much to say about Calvin Coolidge?

Well Reagan himself did put a portrait of Calvin Coolidge in the Oval Office...Tongue
1897  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Forbes: "President Obama’s administration has outperformed President Reagan’s" on: September 08, 2014, 10:18:12 am
The comments to this article sum up why these articles won't work. The Republicans have already bought that the administration is making up it's data on unemployment, GDP, inflation, and the deficit and everything is really 100000000x worse

"I can't find a job and the price of gas is way too high. THANKS OBAMA-YOU CAN KEEP YOUR CHANGE"
1898  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your favorite US President who served between Lincoln and FDR on: September 07, 2014, 07:42:10 pm
Wilson (normal).
1899  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Scott Brown sums up the bottom line of the American Right on: September 07, 2014, 07:33:30 pm
Former Massachusetts Senator Scott Brown, who is now hoping to return to the Senate from New Hampshire, got caught by the busy little candidate trackers at the Democratic group American Bridge saying what everyone will now acknowledge is a "gaffe" when he said, in response to a question about what he would do to create jobs: "Here's the thing, folks say, what are you going to do to create jobs? I am not going to create one job, it is not my job to create jobs. It's yours. My job is to make sure that government stays out of your way so that you can actually grow and expand." No doubt someone's preparing an ad right now based on the quote:

It may have been just a momentary slip of the tongue, maybe because he's gotten used to talking to audiences full of business owners, but when Brown talked about the government getting "out of your way so that you can actually grow and expand," you would have thought he was addressing the Chamber of Commerce. But from the video, this looks like an ordinary town meeting, the audience made up in large part of retirees, who probably aren't looking to "grow and expand."

This too is a longstanding Republican problem; as I've written about before: They've put business owners at the top of their moral hierarchy for so long that they've all but forgotten that most Americans are not actually entrepreneurs whose greatest concern is the top marginal tax rate. It just so happens that the people who can get immediate help from Republican policies are the businesspeople who would benefit in the short run from a tax break or a regulation that disappears. But other people—the kind who work for someone else and would like it if the government actually took affirmative steps to help them—are going to listen to arguments aimed at their bosses and shake their heads.

1900  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Are deliberately unemployed people a drain on society? on: September 07, 2014, 12:17:56 pm
What about the Forbes 400 or whomever? Aren't they, in a sense, "deliberately unemployed"? /trollpost

But seriously...I agree with Antonio, to an extent.  Obviously not everyone can live like an upper-middle class Westerner, but I don't think that is what people really are demanding when they say they want basic access to food, health care, education, etc.-the things that go into a basically adequate (if not necessarily comfortable) standard of living.

And yes, the problem of unequal distribution must be addressed for this to happen.
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