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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: ME-PPP: Tied at 40 on: Today at 06:52:38 pm
If/When Democrats regain control of the government, they should pass a law creating a Georgia style runoff.

Makes sense since it was the DEMOCRATS in Georgia that passed a runoff law in 1917.

http://onlineathens.com/election/2014-07-19/hood-georgia-one-few-states-primary-runoff-balloting

And Republicans whom within the last couple years reinsituted the 50% threshold from the 45% one passed by Democrats. And this year's election is a clear reason why.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Soouth Florida to become its own state? on: Today at 06:39:52 pm
People need to understand that central Florida--the I-4 corridor and adjacent counties at least--are different from both north and south Florida. Culturally, demographically, and politically.
It's more Midwestern than New New York or South Alabama. I mean Tampa is definitely a Midwestern city and even has a building dedicated to the retirees of Dearborn(sp?),  MI. Anything between the Florida State Fairground s and WDW on I4 is definitely North Florida. I think Orlando is pretty northernized.

It's by no means the Panhandle, but it's not Miami Beach either. It's prime swing territory, and for a reason.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Soouth Florida to become its own state? on: Today at 06:13:16 pm
People need to understand that central Florida--the I-4 corridor and adjacent counties at least--are different from both north and south Florida. Culturally, demographically, and politically.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Alabama treats inmates like Victorian debtors at best, stray animals at worst on: Today at 06:11:23 pm
This is sickening.. What kind of monsters do things like that?

The American prison system practices amoralist treatment of inmates? No way.

Firstly, amoralist isn't a word, and secondly, even if it were it doesn't refer to what I think you are referring to. Secondly, who are you to judge what is immoral and what isn't. You are merely an individual and from what I can gather not exactly a hugely wealthy or powerful one either. I also recall that you are not religious, thus meaning that you have no Church, no God and no book to back up whatever definition of morality that you are peddling. You are also criticising the morality of the state, yet, again, you have no comparable source of weight to back up your claims to know what it is to be moral.

So, what would you do? The state has to signal its disapproval of the actions of criminals (in a way that is easy for everybody to understand), thus, naturally, prisons must be unpleasant places to be. Far from being a violation or dereliction of duty, these prisons are in fact performing to a tee the role that prisons should perform; that is, to be hard, nasty places of punishment and suffering for the inmates.

Although I wouldn't, myself, go in for withholding medical care from inmates, that is only because I am of the view that they should be farmed out to do hard labour for free, and, you know, crippled criminals aren't likely to perform such tasks particularly well. Nonetheless, I see nothing particularly immoral here, in fact, in my own flawed, worthless individual perspective, I see this treatment as being perfectly morally justifiable.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Well I've gleaned that the man is basically a Nazi, so I'm going to guess "everything".

Before we go any further down this line of, um... attack, let me just put forward a couple of point. I am not anti-Semitic. I am not anti-Slavic. I do not believe that the British people need 'living space'. I'm not very keen on the idea of placing one semi-competent man at the pinnacle of a vast, complex state, with pretty much absolute power. I do not believe that the disabled should be killed. I'm not amenable to the idea that women are basically baby factories. I also do not believe that there is such thing as a 'master race'.

Now that's out of the way, please inform me as to why I'm 'basically a Nazi'. Or we could just forget the whole thing Smiley .

you may not be a Nazi specifically, but you are absolutely, unapologetically, without an ounce of  hyperbole, an absolute Webster's definition of a fascist.

So yes, without a swastika, your philosophies and politics are still horrid to the core.

Congratulations on your re-election, Senator.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: KS-Rasmussen: Davis+7 on: Today at 05:41:09 pm
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I will pray for all of you on election night.

Good. Many a heart will be broken when Brownback "wins comfortably".
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: How did Shelley Moore Capito not get primaried? on: Today at 03:56:30 pm
Priority number one in a GOP-controlled legislature will be enacting tort reform. Trial lawyers are the financial engine of the West Virginia Democratic Party.

I'll give you credit in being so up front in your admission that "tort reform" in your state is primarily motivated by partisan politics riding the back of public disdain for "ambulance chasing lawyers". Kudos indeed.
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: KS: Rasmussen: Orman +5 on: Today at 03:41:19 pm
I parked my car earlier and there is now a car with a Kansas plate parked in front of me (for real). That's more inticative of the result in the Kansas Senate race than this damn garbage.

Um, multiple polls?  Huh
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: October 2014 General Election - President and Regional Senators on: Today at 08:04:10 am
Pres:
1) marokai
2) al
3) lumine
4) poroit

ME Senator

1) windjammer
2) bmotley
3) cassius.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: FL-Gov, St. Pete Polls: Scott in the lead on: October 23, 2014, 06:07:59 pm
Lacks cell phones, but probably a fair assessment.

How so? A cellphoneless poll seems somewhat untrustworthy.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Lima, Ohio: A portrait of not getting by in the Rust Belt on: October 21, 2014, 03:44:11 pm
It's still amazing to me how people in Ohio think that a quarter black population constitutes some sort of negro ghetto. A quarter black here is a mass affluent McMansion suburb.

Well, it depends on where it Ohio. Wink The rural small town (and indeed throughout the county) my wife came from and we lived in for several years until recently had only a fraction of a percent African-American population. It reminded me of Dave Chappelle's joke about growing up in Yellow Springs: "My house was the black neighborhood". People in communities like that, but only 30-60 minutes from Lima--not too close, but close enough--it sadly made that impression.

The black population in Lima I believe isn't nearly as segregated as say, Detroit or even Chicago. There was a considerable amount of racial permeability in neighborhoods south of Elm. The neighborhood my close friends lived in at the time would have blacks and whites sharing most blocks. But by the time one gets to south and southeastern Lima, it turns into an overwhelmingly black neighborhood with a strong reputation for crime, drugs and gangs. It's that neighborhood that most whites in the region, and even many in Lima, consider the "black ghetto", which I promise is as bad as any place in, well, maybe not Memphis, but at least Nashville. Wink

And like most such neighborhoods, it's the tiny % of gangbangers and thugs who mess up the neighborhood and it's rep despite over 90% of the people there not being involved in any of that.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Lima, Ohio: A portrait of not getting by in the Rust Belt on: October 21, 2014, 01:23:19 pm
@ DeadO: Yes, there's something to be said for cutting the apron strings and heading out to greener pastures. But I suggest that the economic security of one's hometown family and friends retains far more people than "My Hometown" sentimentality.

The Bakkus Shale in ND may seem tempting, if not for the one of the jobs in the gas fields then at least for one of the many support jobs opening up (everything from secretarial, waiter(ess)/bartender, garbage collection, etc. But consider most of the people most needing to get out are the ones with the lowest skill levels, education, and employment strengths. Those people can HARDLY count on getting a good paying gas field job and would at best be looking at a lower skilled (and thus lower paying) job like waiter, food service, etc. Yes, the job demand is out there and wages relatively high compared to (e.g.) Lima, but so are the costs of rent and living in general. So the scenario for most people is to pack and leave and somehow absorb the upfront costs not just of moving/gas, but security deposit and first month's rent that, due to the boom, is likely substantially more expensive than what they pay back in the Midwest (and that's just for the spartan cramped temporary worker housing/trailers put up for newcomers, but we're assuming they're willing to rough it). Again, this assumes a job is readily available even in boomtown once you get there. Odds are currently good, but it's a gamble for folks living (at best) paycheck to paycheck.

That's not an automatically insurmountable hurdle for everyone (though it is for a fair portion of the underclass), but it return they have to give up the economic security of family and friends able and willing to offer/share childcare, an extra bag of groceries the fridge is empty before payday, maybe a little case when the utilities are close to being shut off, even a couch or spare room to stay in if there are troubles with the landlord or finding a new place, not to mention job referrals that might help with employment (temporary, informal under the table, or otherwise).
And that's not including the many folks who are tied to house with an underwater mortgage and see marginally better hope of waiting for better times (and real estate values) rather than default and definitely lose tens of thousands, or who are otherwise tied to family who are infirm/special needs, or otherwise in need of support; family members whom they can't support trailblazing to North Dakota but aren't willing or able to merely abandon into social services.

That's a lot to give up to swallow the not-inconsiderable costs of relocating to a boom area to hunt for a job that will probably be there and probably make up for the increased cost of living, but with questionable reliability beyond the short term and giving up the financial safety net friends and family can provide. I accordingly question how many of these people staying in their rust belt towns are simply stubborn sentimentalists rather than rational economic actors. Certainly both types exist, but I suspect there are more of the latter than people assume.
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: People of the Republic of Atlasia v. Snowstalker on: October 21, 2014, 12:28:08 pm
Not Proven.

Huh

Every juror's right, of course, but odd IMHO.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: What is Gardner doing that Buck didn't to not fall flat on his face? on: October 19, 2014, 11:44:37 am
Gardner has done a phenomial job pretending to be a moderate, which is what won must ddo to win in CO.
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Pennsylvania 2014 Discussion Thread on: October 18, 2014, 09:00:58 pm

Just read the article including his prior comment about having Latinos in the cabinet. "Let us know if you find any"?!? Shocked

15  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of Green Day on: October 18, 2014, 07:39:41 pm
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you prefer freepcrusher-style Democrats or krazen-style Republicans? on: October 18, 2014, 06:13:40 pm
I see it with Krazen, but how is Freepcrusher in any way sociopathic?
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Should Badger and Keystone Phil have their own TV show? on: October 18, 2014, 06:10:09 pm
On second thought, Politicus and Badger TV show would be grand.

That would be critically panned and poorly watched spinoff of the original, after Phil left the series for a failed attempt at movie stardom.

The two main characters are next-door neighbours. Politicus is an exchange student from Denmark, interested in international elections. She suspects Badger of being a half-misogynist, half-man and half-badger and dedicates her time to unmask him. Badger is a rich lawyer, suspecting Politicus of being a succubus on a mission to eradicate the Muslims, which he vowes to stop at all costs. Despite strong differences, the two are getting married on season finale, which became a reason to cancel the show.

Reccuring characters includes Joe Republic, Badger's former law partner-turned-bitter enemy; Oakvale, who goes around and wants to ban every single thing he sees and ag, a professional doomsday preacher from Mexico. 

Am I too busy playing Soccer in each episode to even make an appearance?

Guest appearances only, but only after your initial film undersold Leonard Part 6.
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: October 18, 2014, 06:05:57 pm
This isn't 2000, champ.

What if you generally hate hip-hop/rap except when used with rock or another genre, e.g. nu metal?

That's not a bad post, just someone with a different taste than you.

Yet, as several posters in varying ways made the same point, more than a little correct.

Being a minority view doesn't make something bad or wrong, just as something doesn't become "more than a little correct" because it is a majority view.

When did I ever say that it was correct due to being a majority view (or even a majority view)? Nu metal is an atrocious corporate focus grouped product which blighted late 90s and 2000s radio.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Some facts about homelessness in America on: October 18, 2014, 08:26:53 am
I see your point, and maybe we're debating over semantics, but the fact that about 1 million children are functionally homeless to me is a crisis.
20  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: BushOklahoma vs Inactive - Weird Al on: October 17, 2014, 11:52:38 pm
I would vote for anything made by Weird Al over most posters. (normal)
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which SC Justice Is the Above Poster Most Like? on: October 17, 2014, 11:43:38 pm
Ginsberg.
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Did you like going through a car wash as a kid? on: October 17, 2014, 11:41:45 pm
Why are we referring to this in the past tense, or with the phrase, "as a kid"?

Because 13 year age limit.

I'm pretty sure Joe is implying--correctly--that it's still very possible to enjoy this as an adult.

And he's totally right.
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What are you listening to right now? II on: October 17, 2014, 11:40:57 pm
Punk station on Pandora. Social suicide by Bad Religion.

Whoops! Just ended. Now Loudmouth by The Ramones.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: October 17, 2014, 11:37:46 pm
This isn't 2000, champ.

What if you generally hate hip-hop/rap except when used with rock or another genre, e.g. nu metal?

Thats not a bad post, just someone with a different taste than you.

Yet, as several posters in varying ways made the same point, more than a little correct.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Am I really such a bad person? on: October 17, 2014, 11:34:30 pm
No, you're not. And you're taking this much, much too seriously.

Now start a poll.
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