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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / MOVED: Hillary or Warren... on: December 15, 2014, 03:43:12 pm
This topic has been moved to 2016 U.S. Presidential Election.

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=204179.0
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: GOP Rep: GOP leadership duped me into voting for CRomnibus! on: December 13, 2014, 09:37:55 am
What he means:
"Don't blame this on me, folks. I'm so dumb, I don't know what the hell is going on in that chamber 99 percent of the time. I'm as aware of my own party caucus's legislative agenda as the third graders in the gallery on their class field trip are."

This sums Stutzman up all too well. He's not one of the chamber's brighter bulbs.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bernie Goldberg = Liberal FF on: December 13, 2014, 09:35:28 am
When I saw the thread title I assumed this would by parody. Now I see it's merely Naso.

It's often hard to distinguish the two.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Racial divide on Ferguson indictment is almost identical to 2014 House vote on: December 12, 2014, 11:12:47 pm
Could you please clarify that using more simple language?  What do you mean by "moral ambiguity" and what have you actually proposed to help these people?

Civility towards Democrats, who often make the problem worse, does not make many Republicans respectable or tolerable. You simply refuse to get your hands dirty. 

Yes, too much civility is clearly a cancer infecting modern political dialogue. Roll Eyes

Fortunately for you, no one has ever accused you of contributing to that 'problem'.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Mideast Voting Booth: Protecting People From Explosives Amendment on: December 12, 2014, 10:43:04 pm
Aye
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: December 2014 At-large Senate Election on: December 12, 2014, 10:41:30 pm
1) polnut
2) bk
3) lief
4) swe
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Senator Polnut - Building a Better and Stronger Future - START VOTING! on: December 12, 2014, 10:36:27 pm
You REALLY need to include a link to the polls. Wink
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Republican priorities: (1) cut taxes on the rich; (2) raise taxes on the poor on: December 05, 2014, 08:25:52 pm
Yep, that's the FairTax idea in a nutshell. Pay for your own foodstamps.
Not really:


Hmm. So taxes decrease for literally everyone (well, who's married)?

Actually, the very economists who DESIGNED the Flat/Fair Tax ACKNOWLEDGE it would generally raise taxes on the large majority of taxpayers.
1. The Flat Tax and Fair Tax are two completely different things.

2. Are you going to substantiate your claim with a cite or just expect people to take it at face value?


1) The "Fair Tax" is the Flat Tax with a corporate focus group rebranding campaign, and nothing more. They are "completely different" the same way 'the death tax' and 'the estate tax' are.

2) Robert E. Hall and Alvin Rashbushka, "Low Tax, Simple Tax, Flat Tax" (McGraw-Hill, 1983), p. 58. A taste:

"It is anobvious mathematical law that lower taxes on the successful will have to be made up by higher taxes on average people."
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Rand Paul blames Garner's death on cigarette taxes on: December 05, 2014, 08:05:03 pm
Oh really? How badly were you tased or choked the last time you were stopped for speeding?

What happens if I refuse to comply with the law governing traffic tickets? What happens if I refuse to comply with the law suspending my drivers license? What happens if I refuse to be taken into custody? They can only pile on infractions and crimes, until they finally let the attack dogs off the hook to make someone comply.


So you concede I'm correct?

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Wasn't Garner arrested 31 times? Idjits think the problem will be solved if we write a law so that chokeholds start after 32 arrests. People marching on the police when they should be marching on city hall and the state capitol.

Huh You couldn't make an cognizable point with a very, very sharp stick.

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Humanity is buried under so many layers of stupid, it's amazing the average person makes it to 80 before they drop dead.

We all think that everytime you post, bubbie.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Republican priorities: (1) cut taxes on the rich; (2) raise taxes on the poor on: December 05, 2014, 07:56:58 pm
Yep, that's the FairTax idea in a nutshell. Pay for your own foodstamps.
Not really:


Hmm. So taxes decrease for literally everyone (well, who's married)?

Actually, the very economists who DESIGNED the Flat/Fair Tax ACKNOWLEDGE it would generally raise taxes on the large majority of taxpayers.

But Deus found this spiffy graph on Wikipedia, so the authors must be wrong.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / MOVED: Of the major party candidates who ran for a Presidential nomination.......... on: December 05, 2014, 07:52:40 pm
This topic has been moved to U.S. Presidential Election Results.

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=203718.0
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Racial divide on Ferguson indictment is almost identical to 2014 House vote on: December 05, 2014, 07:51:24 pm
99% of the rioting vandals arern't registered voters.


Your 'politics' really are just a pretext for fundamental character flaws.

Please stop making grotesque posts which embarrass the rest of blue avatars.

The mirror doesn't make people fat, and the social commentary isn't the problem. If people don't like the macabre harlequin slapstick on the news every night, they need to mend their ways.

Your pseudo-intellectual attempts at profundity, well, just suck.
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Republican priorities: (1) cut taxes on the rich; (2) raise taxes on the poor on: December 05, 2014, 06:42:33 pm
Republicans have ideas for addressing poverty and cutting corporate welfare but somehow they never seem to survive the sausage factory.

These ARE our party's proposals, Shua. Don't blame political compromises with Democrats for this.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Rand Paul blames Garner's death on cigarette taxes on: December 05, 2014, 06:35:56 pm
People saying "not wrong." Can you envision a world where NY has a $5.85 tax on cigarettes, and police enforce that law without using violence or killing people who break it? Yes? The reason Paul is wrong is because he's focusing on the tax, not the violence.

All laws are enforced with violence. Pretending otherwise is the lie people tell themselves so they can sleep at night.

Oh really? How badly were you tased or choked the last time you were stopped for speeding?
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: It Is Official; Hillary Rodman Clinton has lost her mind. on: December 05, 2014, 06:31:56 pm


Indeed. The fact t_host of all people posted this warrants the entire thread going to the irony ore mine.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Reaganfan on: December 05, 2014, 02:38:21 pm
If he's running for office, what he shares openly is far more a hindrance than his "secret" past.

But, if he aware of that?

IMO, as I said in another thread today, someone from Forum making public anything Mike Notnaso posts in an effort to effect his real world life--including trying to f$#k with a career move into politics--would be the height of abuse of the Forum' ethos, and would warrant immediate irrevocable banning.

Making fun of him because of this idiocy, or some opponent digging it up because he was dumb enough to use his name here, is all legit.
17  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Best Version of A Christmas Carol? on: December 05, 2014, 01:27:16 pm
George C. Scott's 1984 version. I bought it on Cd to watch every year.

I'm not a fan of musical movies, but the 1969 version, 'Scrooge!" (which I also own on CD) is awesome.

I reluctantly started to watch the 2009 animated version last night with the wife. We were interupted early on, but it was surprisingly good. We'll watch the rest this weekend.
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: If you could ban the previous poster, would you? on: December 05, 2014, 11:41:17 am
Nah.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who is opebo? on: December 05, 2014, 10:55:04 am


It happens regularly.

But are there any examples? Other than jmfcst, who pretty clearly wasn't banned for being a conservative...

Short answer: No
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Reaganfan on: December 05, 2014, 10:44:10 am
Akin to many other "forum heroes" in his utter horribleness.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: If a poster on this forum ran in real life for public office.......... on: December 05, 2014, 10:25:22 am
No, but sadly there are probably quite a few posters here who would.


This. Too many people would consider doing so, despite the effect it would have on the poster's career, as a great joke. we don't have any true hardcore racist/anti-semetic/violence-advocating idiots here (or at least those that aren't quickly banned) that would truly warrant disclosure for the public good.

Using the Forum to screw with someone in real life is intolerable. Like using posts here to mess with someone's job or marriage.

Fwiw, I would vociferously advocate for immediate permenant ban of anyone doing so.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Rand Paul blames Garner's death on cigarette taxes on: December 05, 2014, 09:51:40 am
People saying "not wrong." Can you envision a world where NY has a $5.85 tax on cigarettes, and police enforce that law without using violence or killing people who break it? Yes? The reason Paul is wrong is because he's focusing on the tax, not the violence.

The fact that Paul is literally correct that without the tax, this specific incident would not have taken place is wholly irrelevant to the problem of people dying needlessly in incidents with the police.

Also, he's being a senator from Kentucky here, not a thought leader.

And Gravis wins the thread.

The "Rand is right" (partially or otherwise) range from pedantic to brain damaged. "Michael Garner died because of high cigarette taxes"?!? Please. Name a law. Any law. Enforcement carries the risk of confrontation. It is the execution and--most importantly--the oversight of such execution that truly governs the risk of deaths to people like Garner. NOT whether cigarettes are an extra buck or three per pack in the Big Apple.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Racial divide on Ferguson indictment is almost identical to 2014 House vote on: December 05, 2014, 09:30:39 am
So Democrats are rioting and burning down their own commercial districts and economic opportunities. Tell us something we didn't already know.

Ferguson is a microcosm. Democratic voters can only rage, and give world-class amateur productions of Les Miserable. Republicans sit in the audience with their popcorn buckets and evaluate the individual performances.

Sharpton could use some acting lessons, imo.

99% of the rioting vandals arern't registered voters.


Your 'politics' really are just a pretext for fundamental character flaws.

Please stop making grotesque posts which embarrass the rest of blue avatars.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you own any Political Yard Signs? on: December 01, 2014, 09:56:38 am
None. Ironically, even though I was in charge of distributing Kasich signs in my county, my housing development's covenant prohibits political lawn signs.
25  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Cops on: November 28, 2014, 05:54:37 pm
EVERY profession has bad apples. That said, overwhelmingly FF.
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