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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What states could Elizabeth Warren win that Obama didn't? on: July 23, 2014, 09:25:51 pm
None, barring freakish circumstances and/or a terrible Republican nominee (like Cruz, Trump, Bachmann level terrible).

This. And cruz or paul are the only such disasters the party might actually noominate.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Current ticket predictions? on: July 23, 2014, 09:18:55 pm
I'm amazed no one has chosen soon to be Secretary Castro as a running mate for Hillary. I actually think that was a large part of his selection for the cabinet.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 89-year-old former Auschwitz guard arrested in Philadelphia on: July 23, 2014, 08:42:02 pm
Thank goodness he can now Rest in Peace. Only God will be his judge, not the reactionaries and zionists!

I did't know the BNP had an Oxford College branch.m
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 89-year-old former Auschwitz guard arrested in Philadelphia on: July 23, 2014, 08:36:47 pm
RIH
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: New York Governor- 2014- Astornio vs Cuomo on: July 23, 2014, 04:12:09 pm

He hasn't endorsed yet. Also worth noting that the "Working Families" Party has backed away from Liu/Koppell too.

As far as I'm concerned, de Blasio is a Republican now too. He can be Bernie f***ing Sanders for the rest of his term - if you support Jeff Klein or Tony Avella, you have no place in the Democratic Party.

I wouldn't worry too much about DeBlasio no longer being the great hope of liberals over this. He's clearly supporting them as part of a deal to make the state senate Democratic and help redistricting. Later he can tell them to pound salt when there's a solid majority in the senate.

Are Klein or Avella in any serious danger of a primary anyway?
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: US uninsurance rate drops to 13.4%, record low on: July 23, 2014, 09:51:54 am
Mechman's post essentially championed the exact opposite of every rationale ou've ever 'argued' on this forum.

You really don't have a clue what you're saying, do you? It's the debate equivilent of watching a dog chase it's tail.

I'm one of the young people Mechaman's post. I'm tired of being ripped off by a system that panders to old married people, who've borrowed the US into bigger problems than it faced during stagflation. I'm lucky not to be amongst the ranks of the under-employed, but I'm not amused by the ineptitude of our government that provides nothing and charges a great deal per capita.

The difference between Mechaman and me is (judging by the avatar) that Mechaman blames private industry, while I understand that the government is simply raking one demographic over the coals to satisfy another demographic of people.

Young people have been taxed out of the workplace, and then graciously given permission to commit financial suicide by borrowing.

You truly believe that the private sector has less influence over health care economics than the government? Really?
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NYC approves apartment building with separate entrance for poor people on: July 23, 2014, 09:21:23 am
I feel so incredibly Swedish right now, considering that the only gated community I've ever witnessed was Visby's Old Town.



And the gates there haven't actually been closed for centuries. Tongue


Anyway I do have some sympathy with the people who wants separate doors in this case. I wouldn't either want to share an entrance with those sorts of snobby up-tight toffs that feel they need a freakin' doorman. <.<

My sister lived in Manhatten for several years, and a doorman isn't quite such a "toff-ish" luxury. Contrary to the image of a gaudily dressed guy holding a door and saying good morning, they accept deliveries and let workers into your apartment--which is HUGE in a delivery-service driven city like nyc. Maybe I'm seeing this through the eyes of my sister's upper west side economic mileau, and I'm not saying it's by any means a necessity, but a doorman is more a part of ny life than it would superficiallly seem.

<now waiting for actual new yorkers to scoff>
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Subsidies through Healthcare.gov may be illegal. on: July 23, 2014, 07:07:12 am
I thought right wingers hated activist judges?

Anyway, this ruling is obviously a joke. It's not going to stand.

What activist judges? These good judges upheld the written law.

Except, as Beet coherently noted above, they didn't.

Your slobbering embrace of judicial activism is unseemly.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Rick Santelli, creator of the Tea Party, gets his pants pulled down on CNBC on: July 23, 2014, 07:02:18 am
I love how Rick Santelli always gets the floor traders fired up.

Their cheering seemed somewhat mockingly ironic.
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of this quote on: July 22, 2014, 02:17:02 pm
Snowstalker is the only one in this thread speaking a lick of sense, tbh.
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Question for Chick-fil-A eaters on: July 22, 2014, 01:10:18 pm
Why would I go to Chick-fil-a, which I would have to take public transportation to the nearest one, when I can just roll out of bed and go "dahn to 'da O"?

Da O, baby!! Cheesy

All hail O Fries!
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Question for Chick-fil-A eaters on: July 22, 2014, 12:33:35 pm
It tastes healthier. That is, when I bite into my favorite chicken sandwich, it isn't oozing grease.

But I totally understand your desire to stay away from the establishment because its owner goes to church or something.

Because the owner "goes to church". Yes phil, that's EXACTLY what people objected to. Roll Eyes

Oh, and to the OP, nothing holds a candle to Cane's.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Overdiagnosis of autism on: July 22, 2014, 11:57:48 am
Yes. Autism is the new ADHD.
Indeed.  I don't know if the "Sit down and shut up!" method would work on all of them, but it would certainly work on some.

Speaking as someone with a raging case of ADHD--which was diagnosed but untreated throughout law school and frankly f-ed me up theroughly throughout my life--I'm very reluctant to proclaim anyone else's malady the new "fake disease".
14  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How would you have voted on United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379? on: July 21, 2014, 07:11:28 pm
No because Zionism isn't inherently anymore racist than any other form of ethno-nationalism. Incidentally some people are confusing the term "anti-Zionist" with opposing the current Israeli government's policies in West Bank and Gaza.

This, especially the last line.
15  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Do you consider yourself a patriotic person? on: July 21, 2014, 07:09:23 pm
No (R). What have I ever done for this county to qualify as patriotic? I mean, I like the US, consider it my home, treat the flag with respect, and have no problems with the Pledge of Allegiance, but those are just generic respect.

That's a very interesting answer from apparantly the only Republican to vote no. May I suggest that the your first line conveys a very "ask not way your country can do for you..." sentiment, which itself conveys a very patriotic point of view, TJ. Smiley
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of this quote on: July 21, 2014, 07:00:05 pm
Freedom quote, as is her support of a two state solution.

The comparison to aparthied era South Africa is faulty as popular soverignty would mandate israel as a Jewish state just as South Africa government is multi~acial led by blacks.
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Bacon King Institute of Comedy on: July 21, 2014, 06:40:40 pm

I'm SOOOOO disappointed someone deleted this thread before I could enjoy whatever life tragedy it addressed. Sad
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: I'm Leaving...For Now on: July 21, 2014, 06:31:48 pm

19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NYC approves apartment building with separate entrance for poor people on: July 21, 2014, 05:54:53 pm
If you give poor people a separate building project far away from the rich people, you're socialist hero. If you give poor people a separate door on a nice building, you're satan.

The unbounded irrationality of liberal plebs is the 8th wonder of the world.

haha what



Hail!
As much as it utterly pains me to say this, AD actually makes a good point (other than the typically hyperbolic line at the end)
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: How in the world is Begich holding on so far? on: July 21, 2014, 05:34:45 pm
The New York Times had an article a few weeks ago about how strongly Begich has worked the Alaskan Native community over the last few years, and is now staffing up for the election.

This and the reasons illegal operation put in his post. I'd also add that Begich was a popular mayor in Anchorage and probably has a stronger base than most Democrats in that very politically swingy city.

That said, i'd like to see polls after the primary (and the ineviable post-primary bump for the eventual winner). Most non-Joe Miller Republicans will come home regadless of who they support in the primary, and I just don't see Miller winnning or runnning as an independent.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws on: July 17, 2014, 01:50:22 pm
Just because the U.S. is currently a secular society doesn't mean it should be.

Speaking as a consistory member of a Christian denomination that approves of SSM,   you post is a great example of why our government should be secular while our society need not be. Secular government is a good way of keeping those like you with a 'my Father in heaven can lick your Father in heaven' mentality from forcing the particulars of your religious worship down religious minorities' throats in the form of statute.

Keep your version of 'God's law' for your own denomination and congregation, thank yoy; the Crusades ended centuries ago.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Members of Congress most likely to switch parties on: July 17, 2014, 01:35:52 pm
Manchin votes with the Democrats 73% of the time and would gain nothing from changing parties.  I don't understand all this talk about him switching.

According to the New York Times, former Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell voted with the Democrats 78% of the time before switching to the Republicans in 1995.

West Virginia does seem like it is moving to the right at the state level much later than the rest of the non-coastal South, so Manchin becoming a Republican could be a benefit in regard to being more in tune with his state.

While Manchin becoming a Republican doesn't seem highly likely, it isn't necessarily out of the question, especially if the GOP wins the Senate after the midterm elections.

Yeah. Campbell's switch was a head scratcher.

Generally, it would seem that a party switch in the Senate would catch people off guard.

I don't think Shelby was so surprising.

True, but there doesn't seem to be an analogue to pre-Republican Shelby in the Senate as of 2014.

How about in the House?

Maybe, just maybe Blue Dog Democrat Dan Lipinski (IL-03). He opposes abortion, opposes same-sex marriage, voted against the final version of Obamacare, is against in-state tuition for undocumented immigrants, and opposes increases in immigration visas. Still, he represents a very Democratic district, and other Blue Dogs who are more conservative than him seem unlikely to switch parties. I suspect that polarization in Congress has reached a level making it unlikely we will see many party identification shifts.

You are dead right about Lipinski's district, which is why he'll never switch, as he'll be in about the same position as Cao or Djou if he ever does.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: US uninsurance rate drops to 13.4%, record low on: July 17, 2014, 01:24:24 pm
I have insurance because of it and I am immensely grateful.

Begging for crumbs off of the master's table? Even the True Left know better than to do that.

In general, the US understands that our healthcare system is broken. ACA proposes to make the broken system cover more Americans. If voters don't see what's going on, they shouldn't be voting.

Refer to Mechaman's post.

Mechman's post essentially championed the exact opposite of every rationale ou've ever 'argued' on this forum.

You really don't have a clue what you're saying, do you? It's the debate equivilent of watching a dog chase it's tail.
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Paul Krugman: "The Affordable Care Act is working" on: July 17, 2014, 01:18:13 pm
Liberals are the people who order gruel at the nicest restaurant in the world. Then they brag about how nourishing it was.

Plebeians and their ridiculous sense of morality.

Using 'plebians' as an insult? Even Montgomery Burns isn't that much a caricture.
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Will the Republican Party eventually change its name to Obstruction Party? on: July 15, 2014, 10:43:39 am
Oh, and to the OP:

Ugh.
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