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1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Office of Mideast Governor TJ on: September 29, 2014, 10:16:16 am
I'm disappointed I won't get to hear the lawsuit that surely would've followed a signature. Wink
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Windjammer vs Hifly on: September 29, 2014, 09:58:03 am
The Court was busy over the weekend, and logged on to Atlas to find this suit just now.

This matter may be delayed, or at least complicated, by the fact the Defendant is on Mod Review at the moment. The Court will seek to investigate this matter and issue a timeframe for arguments (or other preliminary order as needed) sometime tonight.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AG Eric Holder to Step Down on: September 25, 2014, 03:08:43 pm
Unfortunately, he is a militant racist, who used the full extent of his powers to charge non-black Americans with hate crimes or undermine the notion of jury by peers by filing federal charges whenever possible.

Holder staked a huge part of his reputation on prosecuting George Zimmerman, the cunning "murder" who lets himself be beaten mercilessly so he can execute his premeditated crimes with impunity.

Holder almost never used his power judiciously when addressing matters of violent crime with a perceived racial component. His reign as AG should never have happened.

What on earth are you basing this on?? First off, Zimmerman was ONLY prosecuted by the State of Florida. He was NOT prosecuted by the DOJ, nor does it appear he will be. Beyond that clear error, what is your basis for such a silly charge? Your sympathy for Hammerskins and other violent white power groups being prosecuted for hate crimes is disturbing, as is your misconception that black seperatist groups aren't federally prosecuted regularly.

I'm not sure which is ultimately the most disturbing: That you're talking out your backside even moreso than even usual, or that among ALL the criticisms one could make of Holder's performance as AG you chose this.
4  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban KCDem. on: September 24, 2014, 05:25:42 pm
Whoa whoa whoa... now this is all entertaining and whatnot but Badger, please, do not compare your Republicanness to Phil's.  He was defending Santorum bestiality comments while you were still "rockin' the red", so to speak. 

Please continue.

 

 all very true, which is why I made sure to include the caveat quote in the last couple years and quote. Wink
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: FiveThirtyEight: Orman now a 64% favorite on: September 22, 2014, 08:54:00 pm
I'd to place a bet with those odds. Any takers? Smiley

Not me.

Now 54%? Well.....maybe.
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: NC-02: Can Clay Aiken win? on: September 22, 2014, 08:52:05 pm
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: KY Senate Race 2014: Getting lucky in Kentucky on: September 22, 2014, 08:47:43 pm
She's getting killed.

There is no reason why she shouldn't at least be able to keep this within 6% (unless she's just that much of a stinker as candidate).

Or, she's running in 2014 KY.
8  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban KCDem. on: September 22, 2014, 05:00:47 pm
BTW--To the OP: I don't like banning newbies who are merely rough around the edges in the hopes they can improve, but this dude is making a good case for bootsville, IMHO.
9  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban KCDem. on: September 21, 2014, 09:19:15 pm
It's complex, but wholehearted. A lot of it stems from "law and order" issues which really began to hit home the longer I've worked as a prosecutor. Having kids tends to make people more conservative, and has in my case. There are certain environmental and tax issues which helped spearhead my change on top of it. That said I'm still the type of Republican who thinks Louis Gohmert and Steve Stockman, among others, are congenital idiots. Grin
10  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban KCDem. on: September 21, 2014, 07:33:14 pm
In Phil's defense, his PMs to me were no less polite than those he shared.

Unfortunately, his posts, whether towards me or others, have continued to be no less "impolite", to put it nicely, than ever.
11  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban KCDem. on: September 21, 2014, 06:52:45 pm
Phil and Badger,
You're both 2 great posters, so no need to fight each other! If the few republicans on this forum are fighting each other, dem hackery will rise Tongue.

...Badger isn't actually a Republican. Tongue  He was always a Dem here and clearly identifies with the Dems but changed his avatar here for some reason awhile ago. I believe he stated why but I forget his reason.

The hell I'm not a Republican. Angry I spent about 2 1/2 hours today canvassing for Kasich and other GOP candidates, spent more time then that doing so last weekend, and ditto for at least a couple more weekends in August, plus put in some time at the county HQ, attended a couple fundraisers in the last month, and have some responsibility for campaigns in the county as well.

I don't recall if you are actually employed for some politico or not, Phil, but you'd otherwise have little grounds to pull the "more GOP then thou" card on me over the last couple years.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Reuters/Ipsos: 24% of Americans support secession for their state on: September 21, 2014, 06:09:18 pm
The sad thing is most of these a-holes readily consider themselves "patriotic Americans". Roll Eyes
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Mideast Voting Booth: September 2014 Elections on: September 21, 2014, 02:55:32 pm
Gov: TJ & Tmthforu

Assembly: Mechaman
14  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Tucker Carlson on: September 19, 2014, 06:45:47 pm
Jon Stewart accurately nailed him a couple years back.
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: DK Elections: Chad Taylor off ballot on: September 19, 2014, 06:22:21 pm
All this sound and fury over something that signifies next to nothing. Sure the polls now show having a Dem name on the ballot helps Roberts some, but that is now. Does anyone really think many Dems will vote for a non candidate come November out of ignorance, with all the publicity and whatnot? I certainly don't. I also don't think by November Orman will have a prayer of winning in Kansas either, unless perhaps he promises to caucus with the Pubs. Otherwise, the message will be that a vote for Orman equals a vote for Reid, and if he denies that, then why is he keeping that open as a possibility by playing his cards close to the vest as to whom he will caucus?  If the Dems plan on this seat being the one that holds their control of the Senate, they are in deep, deep trouble on that one methinks.

I think BOTH parties fully understand this race could easily be decided by the few % of voters who'd vote Taylor if he's on the ballot on the Democratic line, hence the intense battle over the matter.
16  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban KCDem. on: September 18, 2014, 09:32:22 pm
And just as a little reminder, my posts "lack character" but these are perfectly respectable:

This is true. People usually remember Phil's stupid predictions.

Seriously Phil, be safe. Most of your recent posts conjure the image of flecks of spittle as you speak, a rapid eye twitch, and a throbbing forehead vein forcasting an aneurysm.

I hadn't considered the prospect of you going to the asylum....until now. Shocked

Please Phil, it's just a midterm Senate race in a state over 1500 miles away. Please don't do anything .......hasty.

Oh come on, man. Is that really the best you can cite? The first post was hardly over the top (especially in context of the thread), and the latter two were obviously (I thought) tongue in cheek. I wasn't the only poster there noting you seemed a little "tense".

Don't be so thin skinned. Wink Be well.

Oops...."Coming Honey!"
17  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban KCDem. on: September 18, 2014, 09:28:31 pm

Where to begin....

First off, YOU asked the question. It's hardly my fault you were, in fact, the person I was obliquely describing and you demanded identities? And THEN you whine about my "personally attacking" you? You practically begged for this response! Don't ask questions to which you may not like the answer.

Dude, let's not play this game. I rhetorically asked the question. Your accusation was already clear. Just wanted you officially on the record with your ridiculous assertion.

Very strange definition of "practically begging," by the way.

And I wouldn't "ask the question" if you didn't subtly take the jab at me to begin with. So don't take the jab next time.

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Second, perhaps I shouldn't be surprised, but I still manage to be that even after YOU asked the question of ME, you still didn't think twice to actually report the post (for "trolling" I assume) as usual. And after you no less than said "...it was nice of you to man up. I wanted you on record... (emphasis added). So you got the response you were aiming for, and you reported me for TROLLING?!? Take your own advice Phillip: Man up.

I wanted you to man up and admit that you were talking about me. How is reporting of your post not manning up? Your comment was still trolling because, again, you can't stop yourself from posting about me. It's really annoying.

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Most importantly, you really, truly think I hunt down your comments just to respond? Seriously? Simply put, get over yourself. In a hurry.

You single out my posts and often post consecutive responses about them. Often. That's simply a fact.

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In short, I usually don't look to pick fights with anyone, but I don't suffer fools and bullies either.

Ok and neither do I. But I also don't respond to the numerous posts you make that I find silly nearly as often as you respond to me.

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Yes, Phil, while I do call many posters out from time to time, I DO seem to do so more with you than other posters. But considering the above, that says nothing about any "obsession" I have with you, though conversely it says quite a bit about the character of your posting--or lack thereof.

Or you don't care for the fact that unlike some of the other trolls you mentioned above, I actually have some longevity around here, don't have an overall horrific reputation (like a krazen) and I like people that you personally loathe (let's not act like my admiration for a certain former elected official from your old stomping grounds doesn't steam you up, Badger) so you feel more of a need to go toe-to-toe with me. And I'm totally cool with a disagreement. I'm cool with a debate. Many people here that I consider my friends are on the opposite side (truth be told, that's also largely because there aren't many on my side of the aisle here). But I don't tolerate the "Roll Eyes" and "Wow. Pot calling the kettle black!" jabs you like to land that have no other point than whining.

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I'm done now, so I expect you'll be hitting that report button any second, just like clockwork whenEVER anyone dares respond (emphasis: "respond") to you for two or more consecutive posts.

Badger, I've been here for ten years now and have more disagreements than either of us can count. Your ridiculously immature comment that I report "whenever anyone dares respond" to me is flat out false. I report people like yourself and px when you literally obsess over my posts.

You posted an unquestionably personal, offensive characterization of me the other day that portrayed me as an actual crazy person. Apology from you? No. In fact, I think the post even still remains. So don't lecture me about the lack of character in my posting.

I'll kindly ask you one last time: please stop feeling that you have to constantly respond to my posts. Agree to disagree. Even agree that we don't like each other but remain respectful. I've been the one to approach you several times about this and it's been, at the very least, for the sake of the Forum so every damn discussion isn't derailed. Let it be noted that you're the one that chooses a) not to respond most of the time and b) continues this little gripe.

Oh, and I didn't report this post that I'm responding to because it wasn't some cheap, thinly veiled attack on me.

I was going to post a lengthy comment here, but you proved me partially wrong by showing restraint in not reporting my previous response. Kudos. Keep it up?

My wife is REALLY impatient for me to get off the computer, so I'll respond (restrainedly, if that's even a word) later. For now I'll just say I sincerely would like to see you meet the same standards of civility in your own posts that you demand of those posts you report. Before you rise to argue, please consider: In the last 72 hours among just your posts I'm actually AWARE of from being reported to the Mod Cave, you've called posters, "idiot" "moron" "garbage" "troll" "obnoxious" and much more (none related to me, surprisingly enough Tongue).

At the same time, you report more posts than almost everyone else combined. That's totally your right, but don't you think you should at least make half an attempt to, again, live up to the standards you demand of others?

One last note regarding "consecutive" posts. If someone (whether myself or another) objects or challenges a post of yours, and you respond accordingly, a counter-response to your response is not "trolling" and shouldn't be considered by anyone as de facto proof of it. The content of a post is infinitely more important to determine trolling than simply depriving one of getting the last word. Just my opinion.


Oh, and before I totally threadjack this place (probably too late :p), to the OP: I generally want to give most posters every opportunity to improve before banning, but KCDem is darn near if not at the end of my patience.

On that point at least, Phil and I agree. Wink
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Current laws against SSM are not unequal? Sure... on: September 18, 2014, 08:12:35 pm
Nothing is sadder than the victim complexes of single, white men.

Nothing is more tragic than selective moderation by passive-aggressive beta personalities.

Who are you calling beta? Tongue

In fairness, I am reducing (but not eliminating entirely) the points I assessed. I always thought "pom" was a homophobic slur. Ernest corrected me that it actually is a (relatively minor) Aussie slur for English.
19  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban KCDem. on: September 18, 2014, 08:01:57 pm
^^^yeah. If Al had made half of these posts, you people would have put it in the sulfur mine and circlejerked endlessly about how great it was.

Yeah, I agree there is a double standard. Ban both.

^^^yeah. If Al had made half of these posts, you people would have put it in the sulfur mine and circlejerked endlessly about how great it was.

Uh no. For all of Al's caustic putdowns, he has the good sense (and good morality) to not be a flaming bigot.  (Or a Bandit/JJ-level hack, for that matter.)

Yeah, Al's not even in the top 5, though there are examples of veterans being allowed repeated invective and vitriol cause, well, they're "institutions". And the worst offfender by far isn't a mod.

Feel free to name them.

Regarding the latter point? Look in a mirror.

(Despite asking the question, I'm sure you'll follow your M.O. and scream to the mods about "trolling").

Yeah, I ask the question because instead of subtly jabbing at me, it's nice for you to man up. Just wanted you on record with your ridiculous accusation that I'm the worst offender "by far" here with personal attacks. And yes, I've gone to the moderators because you specifically seek out my comments, make a post and even consecutive follow up posts about me and you still want to claim you don't have some weird gripe with me? You have zero business being a moderator. Zero.

You desperately need to get over this disturbing little issue you have with me. I disagree with you plenty. I often don't care for your attitude. But I recognize our differences and don't bother to literally seek out your posts to complain about you. Whenever you pop up on the scene around here, a good deal of your posts are direct responses to me that include personal attacks. I've now kindly contacted you several times, asking you to knock it off. You're calm for maybe a day and then launch right back into it (see: your posts above). You just can't help but drag me into a conversation or whine about me even when my posts are even remotely controversial.

Just the other day, you dove into a detailed personal attack and you want to preach about how I'm the "worst offender?" The worst part about your attacks is that you are somehow still a moderator.

Where to begin....

First off, YOU asked the question. It's hardly my fault you were, in fact, the person I was obliquely describing and you demanded identities? And THEN you whine about my "personally attacking" you? You practically begged for this response! Don't ask questions to which you may not like the answer.

Second, perhaps I shouldn't be surprised, but I still manage to be that even after YOU asked the question of ME, you still didn't think twice to actually report the post (for "trolling" I assume) as usual. And after you no less than said "...it was nice of you to man up. I wanted you on record... (emphasis added). So you got the response you were aiming for, and you reported me for TROLLING?!? Take your own advice Phillip: Man up.

Most importantly, you really, truly think I hunt down your comments just to respond? Seriously? Simply put, get over yourself. In a hurry.

I regularly salute good arguments and points made from people in the minority on an issue, or people I regularly disagree with, whatever. Aggregate Demand, JCL, SPC, Politico, you, BRTD (sorry for the comparison, Zach Wink), even once or twice (shudder) Krazen. I call it like I see it unabashedly. Likewise, I don't hesitate to call people out for being obtuse, foolish, nasty, bullying, or just plain jerks. I do it regardless of avatar color, have done so with people I usually agree with and consider friends when they cross the line, and even called myself out periodically (probably not enough though Tongue). In short, I usually don't look to pick fights with anyone, but I don't suffer fools and bullies either.

Yes, Phil, while I do call many posters out from time to time, I DO seem to do so more with you than other posters. But considering the above, that says nothing about any "obsession" I have with you, though conversely it says quite a bit about the character of your posting--or lack thereof.

I'm done now, so I expect you'll be hitting that report button any second, just like clockwork whenEVER anyone dares respond (emphasis: "respond") to you for two or more consecutive posts.
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish Independence Referendum - 18 September 2014 on: September 18, 2014, 12:17:56 pm
Rasmussen poll of 1000 Americans:

Do you favor or oppose Scotland becoming an independent nation rather than a part of Great Britain?

30% YES
19% No
51% Undecided

Plus:

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Only 33% think most of their fellow countrymen can even locate Scotland on a map.

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As I've said the thing I find perplexing out that vastly over-represented 19% on this forum is that I can understand an American supporting Scottish independence for romantic reasons. That makes sense to me. How does an American unionist happen? Some nonsense about Keeping Our Ally Strong!!1 ?

Partially that. Partially wanting to avoid the economic dislocation, both short term and long, and it's ripple effects on the EU and ultimately here at home. Also some of us oppose such dislocation being based on a bare majority principle.

Maybe some liberals may oppose it because they don't want to see Labour and the LDs screwed from losing a big chunk of their base. Grin
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish Independence Referendum - 18 September 2014 on: September 18, 2014, 12:12:29 pm
Hm, Badger has made quite a good point about danger of a country becoming independent via referendum with almost another half of the voters opposing such measure. Perhaps there ought to be higher threshold for making such decision?

While I agree it's unfortunate that 51% of Scots could force the other 49% to become independent, it would be way more unfair to let 41% of Scots force the other 59% to stay united with Britain. Simple majority is the best system because minimizes the number of unhappy voters.

That said, I could support a requirement that YES wins, say, at least 45% of all registered voters - so as to make sure that independence is won through voter apathy.

Perhaps then 50% +1 of all registered voters would make even more sense?
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of NJ Christian on: September 17, 2014, 11:56:44 pm
HP. Not strictly because of his awful polical views, but because, like Snowstalker or JCL, he combines constant mention of those terrible views with a pronounced lack of intellectual heft.

This ^^^
I'm geuinely surprised at the number of people willing to give this guy a pass just because he doesn't contribute to the left wing echo chamber effect here and "seems nice".
23  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban KCDem. on: September 17, 2014, 09:34:42 pm
^^^yeah. If Al had made half of these posts, you people would have put it in the sulfur mine and circlejerked endlessly about how great it was.

Yeah, I agree there is a double standard. Ban both.

^^^yeah. If Al had made half of these posts, you people would have put it in the sulfur mine and circlejerked endlessly about how great it was.

Uh no. For all of Al's caustic putdowns, he has the good sense (and good morality) to not be a flaming bigot.  (Or a Bandit/JJ-level hack, for that matter.)

Yeah, Al's not even in the top 5, though there are examples of veterans being allowed repeated invective and vitriol cause, well, they're "institutions". And the worst offfender by far isn't a mod.

Feel free to name them.

Regarding the latter point? Look in a mirror.

(Despite asking the question, I'm sure you'll follow your M.O. and scream to the mods about "trolling").
24  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban KCDem. on: September 17, 2014, 07:25:51 pm
^^^yeah. If Al had made half of these posts, you people would have put it in the sulfur mine and circlejerked endlessly about how great it was.

Uh no. For all of Al's caustic putdowns, he has the good sense (and good morality) to not be a flaming bigot.  (Or a Bandit/JJ-level hack, for that matter.)

Yeah, Al's not even in the top 5, though there are examples of veterans being allowed repeated invective and vitriol cause, well, they're "institutions". And the worst offfender by far isn't a mod.
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: How is the state of the United States Economy? on: September 16, 2014, 07:07:29 am
oh no we all fell for the masterful trap

what egg there is on our collective faces
of course. You see economist generally don't measure inflation by inflation figures , at least as far as we understand it .

 thank goodness that, as usual, we have agret demand to tell us this
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