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76  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which forum is ran more in accordance with Christian principles? on: August 18, 2015, 12:02:38 am
Apparently Christian = everything BRTD agrees with.
77  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ferguson protests attracting "Oath Keepers" on: August 17, 2015, 11:20:22 pm
How hard does an anti-police state organization like the Oath Keepers have to try before people recognize that they're anti-police state (and not anti-black or whatever)?

"anti police state organization " is hardly an apt term. "extremist" does.

But the scads of black oath keepers are probably kept under wraps by organizers i'm sure.
78  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Hassan signs law requiring criminals to face their victim's families on: August 17, 2015, 11:12:30 pm

It's good to know that so many of our posters haven't been afflicted by serious crime in their lives.
79  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: August 17, 2015, 10:16:44 pm
Threatening another poster without remorse.

I think you may be mixing up a couple different situations here.

Well, he threatened multiple posters over different times, so it's an easy mistake to make.
80  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: NH-Boston Herald: It Happened on: August 12, 2015, 04:48:52 pm
This is a university poll, from a uni that hasn't polled since '08, whose polling institute is led by the guy who used to run UNH, and whose President is currently Andrew Card. Junk uni, junk poll.

yeah, this poll isn't trustworthy.

but it is still indicative of a trend HRC should be sweating over.....
81  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: August 2015 Federal Special Election - At-large Senate on: August 09, 2015, 02:21:55 pm
Truman
82  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How similar are Kasich and Huntsman, and why would Kasich be better than Bush? on: July 29, 2015, 07:48:57 pm
In addition, Kasich has a Kemp like focus on practical ways to effectively help the less fortunate life themselves up, in a way Bush has not.

Which still seems weird to me, as someone who remembers the budget battles of the 90s.  Kasich (as House Budget Chair) was singularly focused on squeezing the federal budget above all else back then, wasn't he?  I don't remember Kasich being sympatico with compassionate conservatism at that time.  Seems like it's something that he embraced only as governor of Ohio.  And even then, as far as I can tell, he really only started doing this "What will I say to St. Peter?" stuff in the latter half of his first term in office, when his reelection prospects were looking dicey.  (Not to be cynical about this.  Tongue )


Morden, cynical? Perish the thought. Badger, get your butt over here, and put in your two cents please.

He spent his first term pursuing decidedly less the gala terrian measures such as seeking to replicate Scott Walker with unions including even the teachers union. He actually went to the mat, however, regarding getting Medicaid expansion. He actually fought the Republican legislature tooth and nail on this. he actually did an end run did inn in run around the legislature by using a little known government entity call the state appropriations board, by which he was able to somehow legally get Medicaid expansion without the Legislature's approval. If he really didn't care about it, he could have campaigned on trying his best and wanting to continue convincing the Republican legislature to do so in his second term, and arguing he was the better candidate to convince the legislature to go along than a Democrat in the governor's office, etcetera etcetera. Instead he engaged in some hard nosed political executive leadership and got it passed. Yes, it certainly wouldn't have hurt his reelection chances in Ohio, but I think he genuinely went above and beyond what was necessary for him to earn political points on the issue. The fact that he's pushing such a point of view in the Republican presidential primary, and at a convention of billionaire fund-raisers no less, shows it is more than just politics to him, IMHO.
83  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Atlas Forum Feedback on: July 24, 2015, 09:46:49 pm
By which I don't mean trolling (which can be funny) but, to name one example, responding to a poll simply with "FF" and no extra detail.

I think a good way to solve this without a more harsh moderating approach would be changing the software to set a minimum number of characters (~5?) that a post can contain.

FF!!!

Fair point. The number wouldn't have to be exactly 5 (probably higher), but I'm not sure how else you would cut down on sh**tposts without being very subjective.
How about a minimum on how many words are in a post. 

How about every post has to contain at least four vowels and seven consonants. That would be fun.

God this place needs a like button. Smiley
84  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: How's the communication going now? on: July 24, 2015, 09:11:38 pm
^back in the day Dave chose moderators, often based off of community input. But for years now the moderators have picked their own. Picking their friends or people they think will join them in their groupthink is the most important qualifying factor rather than having a diverse sampling of our community. The dissenters (Sam) have been purged. The ones disloyal to the clique (BK) have been purged. Our beloved forum is in such sad shape in large part due to this destructive policy.

Yeah, stick it (yawn) to the man.
85  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Petition for a Constitutional Convention, that would reform Atlasia on: July 24, 2015, 05:18:09 pm

X
BADGER
86  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: How's the communication going now? on: July 24, 2015, 05:01:52 pm
Moderators should certainly be active posters, but I agree with Alcon that it is an important strength of the moderation team that they are specifically not part of the social community of this forum for the most part. Being a mod should have a certain distance from the stupidity and cliquishness that pervades certain parts of Atlas' community. Being well liked is not, and should not, be a job requirement. If the job was all about pleasing people, nothing would ever get done.

I agree that a mod needs to rise above the cliqueishness and popularity contest of Forum culture, at least in their moderating duties. That said, we shouldn't try to seperate ourselves from Forum culture like a monastic cult afraid of being spiritually corrupted by the world. to the extent that's happened already it has alienated much of the community by making the mods seem remote, eletist and disconnected.

anyone who can't separate the modding from who they like or dislike shouldn't be a mod, period , but that doesn't mean mods should socially cloister themselves. it's a bad idea, not to mention. means missing out on what the community has to offer. Smiley
87  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Should Mr. Moderate be de modded? on: July 24, 2015, 11:30:38 am
He should be de-modded for not being an active mod more than his atrocious comments about BK.


What about Mr. Moderate's  recent lack of activity makes him inappropriate to be a mod? It's not like he's disappeared like Master Jedi or Emsworth. As long as complaint reports aren't piling up on the boards he mods, Mr. M has been around long enough to know the Forum and what makes it tick even if he's behind on the latest club gossip.

Just because one's real life makes it difficult for a period to follow the latest twist on Update or the results of the last fantasyland election doesn't mean one should stop being a mod altogether.
88  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Sabato Update: A Small Senate Battlefield on: July 24, 2015, 11:18:46 am
Interesting. My gut feeling tells me that one of Johnson and Kirk will survive. For the moment I think it will be Kirk.

My gut feeling is telling me both of them are sunk.   Especially Johnson.

Yeah, my gut feeling says they both lose, everyone else holds on, and the GOP picks up Nevada.

The only other state the GOP is very vulnerable in is Ohio with Strickland, but I give Portman better odds there, especially if Kasich is on the ticket.

As of now, this. The other big question is whether the DSCC is able to break down Hassan's reluctance to run In NH. I doubt she wants to give up likely reelection to the governor's mansion for what would at best be a 50/50 shot against Ayotte.
89  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: GOP donor calls for debate boycott if Trump included on: July 23, 2015, 10:01:59 pm
It's not just one donor
Quote
Many national Republican officials are increasingly resigned to Mr. Trumpís looming presence. At a meeting of the Republican Governors Association this week in Aspen, Colo., donors and operatives mused about how to prevent him from hijacking the debate.

One idea that came up was to urge three leading candidates ó Jeb Bush, the former Florida governor; Mr. Walker; and Senator Marco Rubio of Florida ó to band together and state that they would not participate in any debate in which Mr. Trump was present
, using his refusal to rule out a third-party bid as a pretext for taking such a hard line. The thinking, according to a Republican involved in the conversations, was that the lesser-funded prospects who have been eclipsed by Mr. Trump would follow suit, and the TV networks airing the debates would be forced to bar Mr. Trump in order to have a full complement of candidates.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/us/politics/donald-trump-stealing-spotlight-with-caustic-comments-eclipses-his-rivals.html?ref=politics&_r=0

It's not enought that these scumbags buy individual candidates; now they openly want a veto power on the campaign process.

My mind's now made up.  I'm a registered Republican who liked Trump, but was unsure as to whether not not I really wanted him as a President.  Now, I'm on board to stick it to these rich pieces of crap who want to buy our democracy.  Trump needs to win and the Rich Lowlife Donor Class needs to lose.

You don't see any contradiction there, do you?

No, I really don't.  Trump's putting himself up; he's not like Foster Friess, making payments on rick Santorum, or Sheldon Adelson, who probably has 3 or 4 of the main candidates on board with his particular plan already.

To the degree that a vote for Trump is a vote agaiinst the GOP Donor Class, I'm all for that.  I'd vote for a traitor to his class who'll be a servant for his Nation.  Trump promises this.  The responses of Trumps enemies give me reason to think that he may well be serious.

Fuzzy, haven't you read some of the articles linked around here? Trump literally is the donor class, as in a huge political donor (to both parties, btw).
90  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: GOP donor calls for debate boycott if Trump included on: July 23, 2015, 10:00:14 pm
It's not just one donor
Quote
Many national Republican officials are increasingly resigned to Mr. Trumpís looming presence. At a meeting of the Republican Governors Association this week in Aspen, Colo., donors and operatives mused about how to prevent him from hijacking the debate.

One idea that came up was to urge three leading candidates ó Jeb Bush, the former Florida governor; Mr. Walker; and Senator Marco Rubio of Florida ó to band together and state that they would not participate in any debate in which Mr. Trump was present
, using his refusal to rule out a third-party bid as a pretext for taking such a hard line. The thinking, according to a Republican involved in the conversations, was that the lesser-funded prospects who have been eclipsed by Mr. Trump would follow suit, and the TV networks airing the debates would be forced to bar Mr. Trump in order to have a full complement of candidates.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/us/politics/donald-trump-stealing-spotlight-with-caustic-comments-eclipses-his-rivals.html?ref=politics&_r=0

I could see Cruz refusing to participate in a debate where Trump is unfairly excluded.

No way in hell. He needs the exposure to make his anticipated (by him) breakthrough, and "bowing to political correctness" like that undermines the very base he's trying to cultivate.
91  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: IN-Gov: Glenda Ritz (D) running on: July 23, 2015, 09:54:50 pm
Surprised she took the plunge - she has my support.


Shocked
92  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Bobloblaw Theatre of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts V on: July 23, 2015, 09:34:31 pm
Nader was/is a narcissistic jerk, as many 3rd party candidates are.

What on Earth is wrong with this? Many long-time Nader workers have expressed this view of him.
93  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of banned posters: Tweed on: July 23, 2015, 09:30:06 pm
A legendary bastard

fixed.
94  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Should Mr. Moderate be de modded? on: July 23, 2015, 09:29:16 pm
Of course not. Don't be silly.
95  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Irony Oremine on: July 23, 2015, 09:28:54 pm
 I'm a registered Republican who liked Trump, but was unsure as to whether not not I really wanted him as a President.  Now, I'm on board to stick it to these rich pieces of crap who want to buy our democracy.  Trump needs to win and the Rich Lowlife Donor Class needs to lose.

Wow.
96  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: GOP donor calls for debate boycott if Trump included on: July 23, 2015, 09:23:40 pm
It's not just one donor
Quote
Many national Republican officials are increasingly resigned to Mr. Trumpís looming presence. At a meeting of the Republican Governors Association this week in Aspen, Colo., donors and operatives mused about how to prevent him from hijacking the debate.

One idea that came up was to urge three leading candidates ó Jeb Bush, the former Florida governor; Mr. Walker; and Senator Marco Rubio of Florida ó to band together and state that they would not participate in any debate in which Mr. Trump was present
, using his refusal to rule out a third-party bid as a pretext for taking such a hard line. The thinking, according to a Republican involved in the conversations, was that the lesser-funded prospects who have been eclipsed by Mr. Trump would follow suit, and the TV networks airing the debates would be forced to bar Mr. Trump in order to have a full complement of candidates.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/us/politics/donald-trump-stealing-spotlight-with-caustic-comments-eclipses-his-rivals.html?ref=politics&_r=0

It's not enought that these scumbags buy individual candidates; now they openly want a veto power on the campaign process.

My mind's now made up.  I'm a registered Republican who liked Trump, but was unsure as to whether not not I really wanted him as a President.  Now, I'm on board to stick it to these rich pieces of crap who want to buy our democracy.  Trump needs to win and the Rich Lowlife Donor Class needs to lose.

You don't see any contradiction there, do you?
97  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The cause of the Trump surge. on: July 23, 2015, 09:22:49 pm
Distinctly the second.

This. There's always a swoon of low info voters for candidates who purportedly "tell it like it is". They tend to fade.

How is Trump going to maintain the media attention by invoking increasingly inflamatory statements for the next 6 months without people getting bored and/or turned off? Answer, he won't.

Likewise, I wouldn't hold hope of him doing well in the debates.

The one thing to separate him from being another Bachmann is his fortune. That'll keep him in the game as long as he wants (i.e. until the field has winnowed out to a few real contenders and his showings become humiliating).

"Low information voters."  You mean folks who need elites explaining to them what is good for them, because they are either too lazy to figure it out for themselves or too stupid to know better?



People who follow public affairs even less than the typical American, and are easily swayed by lowest common denominator sound bites, at least until the race heats up and they start paying attention about a month before election day.
98  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread (Part 2) on: July 23, 2015, 09:18:44 pm
Is there any serious candidate expected to enter the race post-Kasich? (ftr, despite the clickbait title above, no way in hell in Biden getting in).

Perhaps we should consider unstickying this thread now? The field seems set (until folks start dropping out, that is).
99  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sarah Palin supports Donald Trump on: July 23, 2015, 08:56:01 pm
Donald Trump
-supports a 14% wealth tax
-supports universal health care
-pro-choice
-against free trade
-against property rights
-donated to Hillary Clinton and Anthony Wiener

NEWS FLASH: People can change their political views over the course of fifteen years.

He gave over $100k to the DSCC in the last election. He gave more to Republican groups, but The Donald's gonna have some splaining to do at the debates. How do you think Iowa Republicans will react to being told Trump helped fund Bruce Braley? Or NH Pubs when told his money helped keep Shaheen in office?

The downfall will start there.......
100  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What not to do with your gambling revenue: the failure of Tunica, Mississippi on: July 23, 2015, 08:28:17 pm
Jefferson Davis's house is across the street (actually I think Katrina God's will may have destroyed that). 
Cool
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