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76  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump's tweets are unstable, ridiculous & not worth the leader of any country on: August 14, 2017, 04:24:00 am
Nobody asked you what you think, Shadows.

Sucks that you know he's right, eh red laces?
77  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: States where Trump will almost certainly do worse than in 2016.... on: August 14, 2017, 04:19:11 am
Florida too, has no room to grow with whites there

No way!

Whites are flooding into Florida retirement communities, and there's plenty of room to add the white vote.

Say it loud, say it proud, Krazen! White power!! Amarite?
78  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Report: Joe Manchin eyed for Energy Secretary on: August 14, 2017, 04:12:41 am
With the Dem party losing everywhere and dying it would make great sense for Manchin to flee the sinking ship.

Don't be blue, Krazen. A n important victory in the War on Whites was won this weekend in Charlottesville!
79  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Describe an Obama '08 / Romney '12 / Trump '16 voter on: August 14, 2017, 04:09:37 am
Grumps
80  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Republicans No Longer Have Votes for More Spending Cuts on: August 14, 2017, 04:08:19 am
90% of the everyday voters who were upset about "too much spending" during the Obama years don't care about fiscal responsibility.

They just couldn't deal with having a black democrat president.

Somewhat true. His voters only care about deficits when Democrats cause them.
81  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Day after attack, Trump re-election campaign launches attack ad on enemies on: August 14, 2017, 04:05:48 am
There are very few enemies left after the overwhelming victory in the 2016 elections, but I am glad to see our President press the attack!

Yep. You and Trump are going to just run his enemies over! Amarite?

How was Charlottesville, btw?
82  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SJW's Take Issue with...the Maryland Flag on: August 14, 2017, 03:23:49 am
Guys. Guys! Did anyone actually READ the article? It appears to be a tweet from ONE DUDE! Apparently not even someone notable. Just "some dude".

This article is the definition of slow news day.

Can we finally stow the false comparisons?
83  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: European diplomat: Trump is 'obsessed with Obama.' on: August 14, 2017, 03:18:24 am
Sounds like Obama with bush at a lesser level.

The lies. Obama was questioning Bush's citizenship? Obama accused Bush of wiretapping him and called him a sick man on Twitter? Every time Obama met with a diplomat he asked if Bush supported a policy before he gave a yes or no answer?

No. But he still blamed him in other ways.

You are missing the point. Some "mild" criticism from one president to another on policy, etc is acceptable. But to question one's citizenship or make wild accusations of wiretapping are insane.
There is no comparison ... so don't go there.
Ok.  Fixed it.

Sorry Saint. Not remotely the same by any objective standard.
84  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Torch-bearing white nationalists march ahead of alt-right rally on: August 14, 2017, 03:10:50 am
Politics1.com @Politics1com
VIRGINIA: GOP USSen candidate Corey Stewart issues statement on #Charlotesville which only denounces left/Dems/antifa.

Is this real life?
Yes unfortunately, he really blamed the left.

Oh Come People. This is merely a man who represents close to 50% of Virginia's Republican primary voters. Clearly just a fringe extremist
85  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Torch-bearing white nationalists march ahead of alt-right rally on: August 14, 2017, 03:01:23 am
There are so many real problems and crises going on in the world right now.

Yes, and don't you agree this is one of them?
86  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Torch-bearing white nationalists march ahead of alt-right rally on: August 14, 2017, 02:58:42 am
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Senator Hatch Office - ‏Verified account
@senorrinhatch

We should call evil by its name. My brother didn't give his life fighting Hitler for Nazi ideas to go unchallenged here at home. -OGH

2:41 PM - 12 Aug 2017

Now excuse me while the GOP goes back to suppressing minority voting
Wow, you're one strong partisan hack.

And you aren't for ignoring this is unquestionably going on? You don't find even a speck of incongruity or even hypocrisy in this?

Again, I think establishes your partisan bona fides far more than mondale's.
87  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Torch-bearing white nationalists march ahead of alt-right rally on: August 14, 2017, 02:34:37 am
So, I guess that, now that we're nearly 20 pages in, I can say that this event probably secured a D hold on Virginia's governorship this year?
Not at all. This was not a Republican-affiliated event, just some racist nut jobs.  The race is still in play even if Northam has the lead.

Wishful thinking.
No, it's not.  Neither Gillespie nor the Republican Party has ever aligned itself with such sick people.  Gillespie will not pander to these thugs.

B*******. The last being alike have never repudiated these people. Doubly so for Trump.

Please please please please please please stop ignoring the vast number of make America great hats worn by these Nazis. Also please please please please please quit doing the false equivalency of a very very very powerful constituency in the right-wing voting Bloc versus a left-wing Fringe who actively in vociferous Lee denigrates the Democratic Party. You've got literal all right Nazi sympathizers in the President's White House, a present that ran on white identity politics, and we are f****** cowards if we refuse to admit our party has been hijacked by that hunt in the White House

You are better than this st. I can tell by your post you're on the verge of acknowledging that Trump is every bit the bastard you deep down oh is. Sanchez as lost as a human being. There's still hope for you. We need to vote this son of a b**** out before he drags our party down completely, morally as well as politically
88  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Torch-bearing white nationalists march ahead of alt-right rally on: August 14, 2017, 02:06:06 am
Everything bad is Trump's fault and every speech by Trump is the worst one ever. Like any other day in reality. Reminds me why I seldom post here anymore.

Corrected.

Sorry if Atlas triggered you. Go back to your Fox and Breitbart uncomfortable-facts free security blanket.
89  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Torch-bearing white nationalists march ahead of alt-right rally on: August 14, 2017, 02:03:22 am
I do think, President Trump, should've talked about white nationalism and the evils of hating a fellow man and it is very sad he didn't.

It's more than sad, man. It's absolutely, utterly, and completely typical of him. That's the problem.
90  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Torch-bearing white nationalists march ahead of alt-right rally on: August 14, 2017, 01:54:21 am
Tiki torches are so scary amirite??

Jesus Christ. I've been very occupied this entire weekend and just now read about this. Sanchez you are about to really disgrace yourself in this thread aren't you?

Not so "reformed" a white supremacist, are we?
91  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: OH-07 & OH-14 on: August 14, 2017, 01:42:15 am
What could be making them potentially competitive?

Well, both candidates went to Yale Law School, so that's helping with the fundraising.

Harbaugh is running in a very conservative district, but his military background is serving him really well. Rader, meanwhile, is running in a decently competitive district where the ODP has repeatedly run into recruiting failtures.

could OH-15 be competitive?

Unfortunately, no. Especially now that Stivers is serving as NRCC chairman.

The 15th district has a pvi of + 7 Republican. I'm actually surprised it's that low and question whether that stat from Wikipedia is up to date. Regardless, it is more than gerrymandered enough to keep it safe R even without Stivers running.


Keep in mind, Athens is in the district. That's probably what keeps the PVI at "only" R+7.

Not to mention portions of Franklin County. Expertly crafted portions to include Stivers residence in Upper Arlington while avoiding every possible pocket of liberal and / or minority neighborhoods before linking up with the rest of Southeast Ohio, but still Franklin County none-the-less.

Hell, the district doesn't even include all of Athens County. That's how gerrymandered it is.
92  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: OH-07 & OH-14 on: August 14, 2017, 01:41:34 am
What could be making them potentially competitive?

Well, both candidates went to Yale Law School, so that's helping with the fundraising.

Harbaugh is running in a very conservative district, but his military background is serving him really well. Rader, meanwhile, is running in a decently competitive district where the ODP has repeatedly run into recruiting failtures.

could OH-15 be competitive?

Unfortunately, no. Especially now that Stivers is serving as NRCC chairman.

The 15th district has a pvi of + 7 Republican. I'm actually surprised it's that low and question whether that stat from Wikipedia is up to date. Regardless, it is more than gerrymandered enough to keep it safe R even without Stivers running.


Keep in mind, Athens is in the district. That's probably what keeps the PVI at "only" R+7.

Not to mention portions of Franklin County. Expertly crafted portions to include Stivers residence in Upper Arlington while avoiding every possible pocket of liberal and / or minority neighborhoods before linking up with the rest of Southeast Ohio, but still Franklin County none-the-less.

Hell, the district doesn't even include all of Athens County. That's how gerrymandered it is.
93  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: OH-07 & OH-14 on: August 13, 2017, 09:15:50 pm
What could be making them potentially competitive?

Well, both candidates went to Yale Law School, so that's helping with the fundraising.

Harbaugh is running in a very conservative district, but his military background is serving him really well. Rader, meanwhile, is running in a decently competitive district where the ODP has repeatedly run into recruiting failtures.

could OH-15 be competitive?

Unfortunately, no. Especially now that Stivers is serving as NRCC chairman.

The 15th district has a pvi of + 7 Republican. I'm actually surprised it's that low and question whether that stat from Wikipedia is up to date. Regardless, it is more than gerrymandered enough to keep it safe R even without Stivers running.

94  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Trump just endorsed Luther Strange on: August 11, 2017, 12:12:05 pm
Has anyone seen polls of how Moore, Brooks, and Strange would each do in the head to head runoff?
The general? Or a primary runoff?

Moore vs Strange: Moore 45% Strange 34%

Jeez. So Moore actually may have a shot in the runoff after all. Wowzers!

No numbers regarding matchups with either candidate against Brooks, I assume?
95  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Trump just endorsed Luther Strange on: August 10, 2017, 05:20:27 pm
Has anyone seen polls of how Moore, Brooks, and Strange would each do in the head to head runoff?
96  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: NY-11 Michael Grimm considering primary challenge on: August 10, 2017, 05:18:33 pm

That could be big if he wins it. The NY conservative party is arguably the strongest NY fusion party. It'd be interesting to see how that unfolded.

It would probably unfold as D+1.
97  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: NY-11 Michael Grimm considering primary challenge on: August 10, 2017, 05:17:39 pm

Probably, and that could suit he and Molinari just fine. Remember the deal they made to make Democrat McMahon DA in exchange for a pass on running for Congress?

And why would sinking a fellow Republican matter enough to so ignore party lines?

The mobbed up, petty grudge-driven and fiefdom-based politics of the SI GOP is always a Wonder to behold

Exactly.
98  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Trump just endorsed Luther Strange on: August 10, 2017, 05:10:08 pm
It might get strange into the run-off lol.

Roy Moore is much more authentically trumpian. Strange is just an impostor. I think the Trumpkins will see that and give Moore the nomination.
Roy Moore isn't like Trump.

Maybe not if you view Trump as someone with a set of coherent views. But if you see Trump is a culmination of all of the fringiest wings of the GOP, as we should because that's how he won the primary, then we should see Roy Moore's wacky theocratic bluster as perfectly in line with the three legged stool of the Trump appeal.

A lot of people who voted for Roy Moore in all those primaries, perhaps all of them even, voted for Trump because of similar reasons, they "tell it like it is".

And even more importantly " stands up to all those politically correct elitists"
99  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: 538: The Congressional Map Has A Record-Setting Bias Against Democrats on: August 09, 2017, 11:06:52 pm
I'm not a proponent of eliminating partisan gerrymandering, though, as it is an American tradition as old as Elbridge Gerry.

You're for politicians basically stealing seats for their party just because it is a ...tradition?

...seriously?

Sorry. I don't find something that has been going on since the founding of the republic as offensive as most here seem to do. Quite frankly, a lot of the supposedly neutral redistricting criteria proposed by others are just as likely to lead to partisan Gerrymandering. Forcing "competitive" districts on states where one party's population is concentrated in a particular city or region is a dumb idea that destroys communities of interest, overrepresents the minority party and overrepresents that city or region. Supposedly "neutral" commissions almost always aren't. And court-drawn maps often take on the biases of the appointed special master.

So, no, there is no such thing as "neutral" redistricting. And I don't view partisan redistricting as "stealing" seats for any one party - what Republicans do in Ohio or Michigan can easily be offset by what Democrats do in Illinois or California, anyway.

So screwing people over and diluting the effect of popular vote is still cool cuz it's always been done. What a lame post.
100  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Pelosi is useless, but shouldn't Hoyer & Clyburn be replaced too? on: August 09, 2017, 11:03:26 pm
Clyburn is decidedly ineffective.
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