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76  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Death Tweet on: February 02, 2017, 06:21:18 pm
"Trump is non-interventionist!"
"Hillary is the hawkish candidate!"

-The 2016 Democratic platform on Iran was tougher than the 2012 one. And, yes, Trump is much closer to a non-interventionist than HRC, and Hillary really was the hawkish candidate.

"awfully hot in here. better crank up the furnace!"
77  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Harvard scientists create Metallic Hydrogen at last on: January 27, 2017, 03:50:38 pm
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Metallic hydrogen is one of the holy grails of modern science. It would essentially be a magic material, creating everything from impossibly fast computers to hovering cars (themselves powered by hydrogen) to batteries that never need charging. It was also supposed to be impossible, as it would require pressures you can’t even find at the center of the Earth. But, now, amazingly, two Harvard scientists have reportedly pulled it off.

 It literally took dropping liquid hydrogen to almost absolute zero and crushing it between two diamonds at thousands of times the pressure of Earth’s atmosphere, but… here we are. They’ve created metallic hydrogen. The next step is to ease the pressure and see if the theory that once made metal, hydrogen stays that way at “room temperature” holds.

 If it does, then, not to oversell it or anything, but basically the entire course of human history has been irrevocably shifted. Metallic hydrogen is, in theory, a room-temperature superconductor. In a normal conductor, like a copper wire, there’s resistance — think of it like pouring chocolate syrup through a sieve. No matter how fine the sieve, or how slick the wires, some of that syrup is going to stay behind.

 Superconductors, on the other hand, have no resistance. If you put electricity into a closed loop of superconducting wire, then the electricity stays there, running in a circle, waiting for you to take it out. We already use superconductors in an enormous number of places: MRI machines, maglev trains, high-grade electrical motors, and in scientific work like the Large Hadron Collider. The problem is that superconductors need to be cooled down to a very low temperature, usually -297° F, in order to work, and getting something that cold is an expensive proposition.

 If a superconductor could work at normal temperatures, that would make them relatively cheap to use. Superconducting batteries could be connected to solar and wind farms, charged, and stored to use in rainy or calm days. Computers would become faster immediately. Electric motors would become even more power efficient and stronger than they already are. Even something as simple as your humble electrical transformer could be made vastly more efficient with room-temperature superconductors, meaning we’d get more out of every lump of coal and drop of oil we burned. Oh, and hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, so the raw materials are literally in our atmosphere.

 Of course, metallic hydrogen might not be a room-temperature superconductor. This is literally material that has never existed before. It might simply dissolve. It might blow up. It might just turn back into plain old hydrogen. And this would mean a complete rewrite of the theory of physics. And even if it does work, you won’t see metallic hydrogen in your laptop tomorrow; this isn’t yet an industrial process. But if the theory holds, the world has just take an enormous step into the future we’ve always dreamed of.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hydrogen-turned-metal-change-world-205955795.html

IF, and it's a huge if, the substance remains in solid. Form, this article isn't overselling this discovery's importance by much.
78  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump orders EPA to delete all climate change information from its website on: January 27, 2017, 10:13:57 am
What part of America first don't you get? We're putting AMERICANS first.

Not the inhabitants of random islands that hate us anyways.


These EPA hoaxers are apparently crying  in the office. Maybe they will get fired!

Get a job
79  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump has sitdown over voter fraud with ABC, doens't go well. on: January 27, 2017, 09:42:44 am
It's hard to defend a pathological liar.

And yet they do so chronically.
80  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump announces 20% tariff on all Mexican imports to pay for wall on: January 27, 2017, 09:41:41 am
Great, now we end up paying more for imported products just to finance a dumb wall that will do nothing. On top of this, we're risking a trade war, which would inflate prices further and hurt the economy.

Meanwhile, the Tweedledees are thinking that they're "punishing" Mexico, while actual Americans are having their money and financial stability siphoned for said dumb wall.

10/10

This is what always happens, without fail, whenever people turn to nationalism. Again and again and again. Yet, as we see, many people never ever learn anything.

Have you ever tried pointing this out to anyone on Facebook or social media? They just basically call you a brainwashed commie. Like this sh**t is legit frightening.

I've been one of those people. I was part of the alt-right back in its earlier days. I know what these people are and how they think; I also know how sick they actually are. They need a good education (which they call "indoctrination") and interacting with people from cultures outside their little bubble (and no, claiming "I live in a multicultural area" isn't truly interacting with people from other cultures).

Could you expound more on this? I'd be curious to get your opinion on what's happening with the alt-right and its takeover of the Republican Party.

It's really pretty clear. 30%+ of the party's base is full on anti-fact.

Judging from both the blue avatars and allies on the Forum, as well as the junk coming out of the White House, I'd saddly say it's a solid majority.
81  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump has sitdown over voter fraud with ABC, doens't go well. on: January 27, 2017, 09:33:45 am
Trump supporters are awfully quiet in this thread. Even Krazen hasn't shown up for his ubiquitous mod-sanctioned trolling.
82  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump announces 20% tariff on all Mexican imports to pay for wall on: January 27, 2017, 09:28:56 am
So, In Trumps defense(Oh god), Spicer was referring to a border adjustment tax that congressional republicans have already gotten behind. It's not actually a 20% import tax.

What's the difference. Serious question
83  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Spencer Gets Punched Again on: January 27, 2017, 09:18:54 am
Guys, this is not good.

If you think this actually accomplishes anything toward combating fascism, you fail politics forever.
84  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: January 2017 House Special Election on: January 27, 2017, 09:15:20 am
1) Blair
2) Superm...I mean Clark Kent
85  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The JJC Landfill for Absurd, Ignorant, and Deplorable Posts VI on: January 26, 2017, 02:52:00 am
eharding is honestly a trash poster. his entire posting history should be linked here tbh
86  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Who are all the people in this photo? on: January 26, 2017, 02:33:53 am
Fresh powder! ready to hit the slopes.
87  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump threatens to "send in feds" to Chicago on: January 26, 2017, 02:21:50 am
It honestly feels like everything Republicans know about America's inner cities, they learned from watching old Charles Bronson films.
88  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump has sitdown over voter fraud with ABC, doens't go well. on: January 26, 2017, 02:20:43 am
During an interview with ABC’s David Muir which is set to air during Wednesday’s edition of ABC World News, the President and the anchor got into a testy back-and-forth over Trump’s citation of a Pew report on voter fraud.
"    Muir: You say you’re going to launch an investigation into (voter fraud).

    Trump: Sure. Done.

    What you have presented so far has been debunked. It’s been called false —

    No it hasn’t. Take a look at the Pew report.

    I called the author of the Pew report last night. He told me they found no evidence of voter fraud.

    Really? Then why did he write the report?

    He said no evidence of voter fraud.

    Excuse me. Then why did he write the report? Look at the Pew Report. Then he’s groveling again. You know, I always talk about the reporters that grovel when they wanna write something you wanna hear. But not necessarily millions of people want to hear, or have to hear"
http://www.mediaite.com/online/why-did-he-write-the-report-trump-gets-into-testy-exchange-with-abcs-david-muir-on-voter-fraud-claims/#disqus_thread

WTF??
89  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump threatens to "send in feds" to Chicago on: January 26, 2017, 02:07:16 am
How long? What if people start dying there?
start?

     Given the situation in Chicago, something ought to be done about the high levels of violence there. Obviously it's bad if Trump occupies the city (pretty unlikely), but there isn't really a case to be made that doing nothing there is an acceptable response. The city of Chicago should be the entity doing something, but if they fail to act do we really just want to leave the bodies piling up? I would hope not.

Why single out Chicago, other than it's Obama's hometown?
Seriously, I think it was the Democratic Party directed riot at his planned rally last March. I suspect he holds a grudge against Emmanuel for that and frankly I don't blame him.

So you support sending in federal control and military force of a local government expicitly as political payback?

You are an un apologetic Fascist thug, in every literal sense.

I have no doubt whatsoever you and "reformed " white supremacist Sanchez and avowed white supremacist Krazen, if given the opportunity to "defend conservatism" from vaious "left wing agitators and troublemakers", you folks would happily curbstomp some folks bloody. Mostly people of a multihued variety of skin colors. All the while proudly bellowing "white power" I'm sure..

Hey, whine about it if you want, but your obsession with this mythical threat of large scale "organized left wing violence" (which you are apparently unable to distinguish from some college anarchist twit breaking a Starbucks window), along with palpable racism and Islamophobia. Oh, and every single word you've ever posted here. Sorry, but it makes a compelling case.
90  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump threatens to "send in feds" to Chicago on: January 26, 2017, 01:46:02 am
THe violence needs to stop NOW, not next year, not in 5 years. Not a single one of you has any idea how to do that, and throwing more money at the problem is not a sufficient solution. 
1.  Chicago has loads of money, they just dont spend it efficently.
2.  Putting more money into schools etc is going to help kids 10-15 years down the line, maybe.  Whats going to save the kids there now???

Trump is an idiot who doesnt know what he's doing.  But at least he's proposing SOMETHING

Doing something stupid and impulsive is not better than nothing. Why do you claim to be opposed to Trump, then jump to his side EVERY time black people are involved?

F Off.

He's right you know.
91  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Voting rights bills and lawsuits megathread (Updated: Jan 13th) on: January 26, 2017, 01:09:24 am
Except of course I assume the provision COMPLETELY unrelated to partisanship about not allowing student IDs as a valid form of picture ID remains?
Schools typically do not validate identity, residence, citizenship, or age.


state schools?
92  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Official Trump 1.0 Approval Ratings Thread on: January 24, 2017, 11:06:56 am


Says it all really.

Even if you support him, can we all simply acknowledge that Trump is unpopular and it's not surprising?

He became president despite losing the popular vote by a greater amount than anyone whose managed entering the Oval Office. He ran a campaign that was proudly divisive against "anyone who isn't us". He was chronically vulgar, insulting, and obnoxious in a manner greater than literally every other major party candidate in history combined--supporters considered it "telling it like it is". Whatsmore, we can all agree that his REPEATED statements about pussygrabbing, women "being dangerous by working out of the home", liking to intrude on beauty show dressing rooms, etc.  etc. etc., proved even to his supporters that, although they preferred him to Clinton, he's still fundamentally a scumbag personally.

Most importantly, he has not said one thing or taken a single action since being elected to change that course and actually unify the country. His supporters saying that candidate Trump would develop gravitas and his non-ideological nature to build bridges have bupkis to show for that theory, and it ain't about to happen.

The only people trying to claim he's not unpopular are those that always supported him.

Yes, although the general breakdown in trust in politicians plays a role too - notice how three of the bottom four happen to be the three of the most recent presidents. Someone as unpleasant as Nixon only had 5% disapproving of him on taking office for example.

Even compared only to the most recent 3, Trump stands head and shoulders above (or rather below) the others.
93  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump pledges to cut taxes and regulation 'massively' on: January 24, 2017, 11:02:58 am
Judging from his nominee for FCC Chair, maintaining net neutrality appears to be among the "wasteful regulations" he seeks to gut. Not a good sign.
94  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why does the media have such a fetish with Mike Pence calling his wife "mother"? on: January 24, 2017, 01:27:44 am
Considering that this is the first time I hear of it, does not seem to be such a media fetish.


This.

I'll further add to those calling it an "old white couple thing" Pence is only 57 years old!. He's barely old enough to remember the Beatles. Disco was king when he graduated high school. He's nowhere near that generation.

Sorry, it's creepy.
95  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Official Trump 1.0 Approval Ratings Thread on: January 24, 2017, 01:20:19 am


Says it all really.

Even if you support him, can we all simply acknowledge that Trump is unpopular and it's not surprising?

He became president despite losing the popular vote by a greater amount than anyone whose managed entering the Oval Office. He ran a campaign that was proudly divisive against "anyone who isn't us". He was chronically vulgar, insulting, and obnoxious in a manner greater than literally every other major party candidate in history combined--supporters considered it "telling it like it is". Whatsmore, we can all agree that his REPEATED statements about pussygrabbing, women "being dangerous by working out of the home", liking to intrude on beauty show dressing rooms, etc.  etc. etc., proved even to his supporters that, although they preferred him to Clinton, he's still fundamentally a scumbag personally.

Most importantly, he has not said one thing or taken a single action since being elected to change that course and actually unify the country. His supporters saying that candidate Trump would develop gravitas and his non-ideological nature to build bridges have bupkis to show for that theory, and it ain't about to happen.

The only people trying to claim he's not unpopular are those that always supported him.
96  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Double-Think: Kelly-Ann Conway calls Spicer lies "alternative facts" on: January 24, 2017, 01:04:32 am
Blah blah blah.

Any news I don't like is fake news
Haha, exactly the left's shtick.

Ummmm, since when? Seriously. The entire "liberal media" blah blah blah led to the foundation of Fox, so people could live in a conservative echo chamber and reporting facts became subservient to propaganda vaguely posing as reporting.

Pull the false equivalency BS all you want, MSNBC giving Rachel Maddow a show and approximately 100 people subscribing to The Young Turks doesn't mean there's anything remotely of the same magnitude or scale or ubiquitousness of behavior on the left.
97  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Voting rights bills and lawsuits megathread (Updated: Jan 13th) on: January 24, 2017, 12:59:07 am
Iowa Secretary of State Paul Pate pushes voter ID plan, but resists photo ID requirement

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2017/01/12/voter-id-plan-isnt-aimed-election-fraud-pate-says/96504508/

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Iowa Secretary of State Paul Pate on Thursday defended his new voter identification proposal as an effort to improve administrative efficiency — not to prevent fraud or disqualify voters.

And he said he’d oppose any efforts by state lawmakers to expand the plan to include a more controversial photo-ID requirement for voters.

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Iowa voters would be required to show a state-issued driver’s license, a passport or military ID card when they vote, allowing poll workers to scan a bar code on that document to accurately call up each voter’s file in the state database.

Should the law be enacted, election officials would identify all currently registered voters and new registrants who do not have appropriate ID and provide them a free, permanent, driver’s license-quality voter card containing the necessary bar code. The card would not include a photo.

No currently registered voters would risk disqualification under the plan, Pate said, and all new registrants without other ID would receive a free card. Voters who come to the poll without an ID card would vote a provisional ballot.

His plan sounds more reasonable, and it is nice to see a Republican not insisting on photo IDs for once. If his plan really does call for reaching out to most people without IDs and providing them one suited for voting, then that is something I can get on board with.

However, how much sway does he really have in this debate? He is the state SoS, and legislators can just pass their photo ID requirements regardless of what he thinks. Anyway, we'll see!

This actually seems pretty reasonable.

Except of course I assume the provision COMPLETELY unrelated to partisanship about not allowing student IDs as a valid form of picture ID remains?
98  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Richard Spencer punched in the face at protest on: January 24, 2017, 12:45:54 am
All this said, punching Richard Spencer and his ilk aren't going to solve, or even seriously address the problem. If we set aside the hyperbole, overt neo-Nazis aren't going to take over or even seriously intimidate the body politic like early 30's Germany. We need to be far far more concerned with their sympathizers in high positions whose veneer of respectability insulates them to varying degrees. Assaulting these meaningless peons of the hate movement in anything other than legit self-defense only drags the assaulters and their movement down to the Nazis level, both in an objective moral sense, as well as a subjective judgment of public opinion.

Keep calm and fight racists, but not with violence. It's worse than useless; it's downright counterproductive.
99  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Richard Spencer punched in the face at protest on: January 24, 2017, 12:35:04 am
It wasn't obvious until after they came to power and in particular during the war that the nazis were just as bad as the communists, but by then it was too late. If it hadn't been for far left violence and the Weimar authorities failure to control it then World War Two and all its horrors could have been avoided.

No, chucklefu#*. it was really REALLY obvious to most non-cretins that Hitler was going to be as bad as he was. That is to most non-cretins who rightfully put RIGHT wing violence as the pre-eminent reason Hitler came to power.

All respect to you, but no it was not obvious that Hitler would be anything, but another strongman, he had written a book with very extreme views. But Europe was full of strongmen which had said extreme things. At the same time let's remember that the crimes of USSR was not unknown at the time. So there was a very real fear of USSR in Germany at the time, only made worse by the fact that the Versailles Treaty had weaken the German state's monopoly of force, which had enable the political violence of the Weimar Republic. So there was a demand for a strongman, even if he was a thug like Hitler.

You'll get zero argument from me about the Versailles Treaty's punitiveness laid the groundwork for the rise of a strongman and undermined the Weimar Republic's legitimacy from the start. Other then that, though, with equal respect I firmly disagree.

Because he stated it so much better, I'll simply repost Apathetic Austrian's early comment:

if i as an austria may say something in that area.....

1) the punishment systems for the german countries after the first world accelerated the chance for the second one big scale.

2) every idiot who wanted to know it could have foreseen hitler's risk for the system since he was in prison for trying to OVERTHROW the government

3) a nazi terrorist group killed the austrian catholic-fascist autocrat in 1934.

4) the weimar system fought hard against left-wing/communist revolutionaries but didn't dare to punish right-wing revolutionaries in the same way.

5) hitler never lied about his goals.....which was clear if you read "mein kampf"...he just sugar-coated them in front of his bourgeoisie-industry friends.
100  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: If trump decides to go after pharma prices, is that a good or bad political move on: January 24, 2017, 12:28:49 am
I can't see him doing it to much extent until the Hasert Rule and unrestrained fillabuster are done away with. Even if he could theoretically support and pass tough legislation with overwhelming Democratic support, unless a majority of the Republican caucuses support the measures it'll never get to the floor.

Besides, does anyone really believe President Trump cares remotely as much as candidate Trump about <snicker> limiting corporate gouging? That's his people!
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