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76  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Joe Republic on: October 15, 2014, 12:59:43 pm
This place loves the asshole(s).

HP

Fortunately for us both, DeadO, the Forum has a soft spot for such types. Wink

Oh, and Mega FF.
77  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather live in Atlanta or Des Moines? on: October 15, 2014, 12:57:40 pm
I've heard mixed things about Des Moines. Some along the lines that Des Moines has a number of amenities and culture for a city of only 200k, plus good schools and relatively low crime. Others, similar to what Torie has said.

My wife lived and worked in the Atlanta arts community for a number of years before we left. Yes, definite downsides with its sprawl, traffic, crime, but all in all I know we'd probably sooner move there for offering so much more than Des Moines. That said, the older we and the kids get, the less important things like a wide variety of restaurants, museums, band venues, microbreweries, etc. all become. Anymore we rarely make use of the ones we have near us as it is. Tongue So long as they kept pro hockey (albeit AHL level) there....

Advantage to Atlanta, they'd have a better chance of growing up around and becoming friends with people from other ethnicities (yes, Forum, not all Republicans consider "diversity" a bad thing Grin). On the other hand living in Des Moines would make it possible for even minor local politicos like me to have US Senators, governors, and even future presidents come to my house even to pitch to a handful of neighbors. Cheesy
78  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Simple Truths Silver Mine on: October 15, 2014, 12:33:57 pm
Jim Webb was so sick of Government that now, just 2 years later, he wants to be President.
79  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Opinion of South Dakota on: October 14, 2014, 06:21:20 pm
ND was the start of the Non Partisan League, which is pretty much the closest thing America has had to a mass appeal anti-elite agrarian socialist movement.

It survives in the repealed death penalty (California still has one), the nationalised bank and grain elevator, the ban on corporate farming etc.

Sorry, I just have a lot of love for the state of North Dakota. I still love California! (Well, more NorCal that SoCal; I don't think humans should live in deserts, it's against nature)

Take it from someone who actually lived there, it sounds a lot better on paper with your descriptions then it ends up being. Tongue The sheer isolation and emptiness is a much bigger issue than you think. Driving from Fargo to Bismarck in the dead of winter and arriving after midnight makes it feel like Bismarck might as well be some sort of colony a different planet considering how barren it before it, I know that actually sounds cool, but then try LIVING there instead of just visiting...

This, from somebody who extolled the virtues of living in Fargo? Wink
80  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Badger vs Keystone Phil on: October 14, 2014, 06:12:27 pm


Bah! The incessant foolery of Eagles fans. Tongue
81  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: KS-PPP: Orman (I) leads by 3. on: October 14, 2014, 06:07:05 pm
Orman will still win. LOL at those listening to the Pennsylvania Republican.

What does being a PA Republican have to do with anything?

Just remember: Santorum lost to a "BALD" guy!

Nope, still don't get it.
82  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The New Irony Ore Mine on: October 14, 2014, 05:59:56 pm
I'm sorry, but what does this have to do with anything?

NOW we can close the mine.
83  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: NH GOPer says Kuster will lose because she's "very ugly", calls GOP opponent hot on: October 14, 2014, 05:49:31 pm
The NH House has like one member for every 4000 state residents. It's easy for horrible people to slip in.
84  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: KS-PPP: Orman (I) leads by 3. on: October 14, 2014, 05:44:41 pm
Orman will still win. LOL at those listening to the Pennsylvania Republican.

What does being a PA Republican have to do with anything?
85  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Al Realpolitik Institute of Sulfur Mining & Extraction on: October 14, 2014, 05:41:04 pm
interesting moderating strategy you have there, Badger.

I started off subtle, but then was asked for elaboration, which I gave.

I don't (or at least rarely) don't post things I'd infract, and don't infract things I might post.

False. I questioned the quality of the burn, I never asked for an elaboration of your motivation for nominating it.

As evidenced by your endless feuding with Phil you are just the kind of person that don't like to let your opponents have the last word (which would generally be the proper approach for a mod that is supposed to secure a good debating climate, not escalate conflicts). Even if you somehow felt the need to give a comeback you could easily have given a non-escalating reply such as "Yes, I think it was a good burn, because it was accurate and to the point", but instead you chose to go on the attack, as you also do every single time Phil provokes you.

I am a belligerent type myself, so I certainly understand you, but if you are the sort of person that just can't handle to let your opponents have the last word, then you should realize that you probably aren't the right kind of man to moderate a political internet forum and act accordingly.

(this is a test Badger Wink - let's see if you can handle not replying to this post..)

Well, I guess I failed your test then. Tongue

I will say that I overreached some in the term "know nothing", which you clearly aren't. That said, your response to Al's post, to which I responded, was more than a tad aggressive and unfounded itself. In context of both that initial post and your reply to me, IMHO my post was....well, at least less over the top. Wink

While on the one hand my characterization wasn't entirely out of left field considering your posting history including such gems as:

Its not racist to dislike Islam.

I actually somewhat agree with your analysis here:

On the one hand Islam never had a reformation (and the following counterreformation) or an Age of Enlightenment, and it's a Law Religion with detailed prescriptions of behaviour, but on the other hand it also changed over the centuries. In the Middle East Islam became markedly more reactionary and narrowminded in the 18th century and AFAIK the reason exactly why this happened is not clear.

Regarding Islam's potential for change and coexistence with Western values it is worth noticing that Judaism is also a law religion and it has produced liberal versions - especially in the US - so why shouldn't Islam be able to do this under the right circumstances? Euro-Islam is already under development as a version adapted to the West. Also fx Turkish Alavism and versions of Sufism are far more liberal in many ways than mainstream Sunism or Shiism.

While IMO you are willing to paint Islam with far too broadly a brush (albeit not universally), you clearly have at least some basis and depth to your views.

So if my offering a partial retraction of my post (albeit mixed with a partial defense) is (mis)interpreted as a sign of my simply "having to get the last word", well, so be it. Grin
86  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: The forum needs another admin on: October 14, 2014, 04:49:34 pm

Mr Morden or Joe Republic would be perfect in this role.
87  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: South Park vs. The Cleveland Show on: October 12, 2014, 07:11:49 pm
Not much of a fan of either, but the Cleveland Show I guess. 

This, at least regarding post-2002 South Park.
88  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Al Realpolitik Institute of Sulfur Mining & Extraction on: October 11, 2014, 07:29:46 pm
interesting moderating strategy you have there, Badger.

Yeah, he has zero business moderating. There really isn't even room for debate on the subject.

Hi Phil! Should I run and report this for trolling or whine about your obsession with me now?

Oh wait, I'm not you.
89  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: MA: The Mideast Police Canine Reform Act (Debating) on: October 10, 2014, 09:37:06 pm
As long as the Mideast has drug laws on the books, I see no reason why the police cannot use dogs to find them.

I'll bring the necessary research that shows that drug dogs are definitely not the most effectively use of resources for "sniffing out" drugs over the next couple of days.

In closing for tonight, I would just like the Governor and his allies in the Mideast Reich to consider the emotional and mental trauma that occurs when you raise dogs for the purpose of sniffing out narcotics.

The alleged 'trauma'  of training dogs to detect drugs is a myth. Dogs don't know whether the scent they're trained to detect is drugs or humans, as with rescue dogs. Nor do dogs inhale one iota of narcotics by smelling them through (e.g.) car doors and/or several layers of plastic wrapping.
90  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Al Realpolitik Institute of Sulfur Mining & Extraction on: October 10, 2014, 08:22:17 pm
interesting moderating strategy you have there, Badger.

I started off subtle, but then was asked for elaboration, which I gave.

I don't (or at least rarely) don't post things I'd infract, and don't infract things I might post.
91  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: GA-Landmark: Tied race on: October 10, 2014, 07:55:18 pm
Baring a gamechanger event, the only real question in both GA races is whether the Republicans win outright or in a runoff.
I'm thinking runoff, but either is plausible.

Yeah, my money's on runoffs too.
92  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: SHOCK POLL: ROUNDS' LEAD DOWN TO 3%, PRESSLER SURGING SAYS SUSA on: October 10, 2014, 07:49:21 pm
I'm telling you guys, Independents in Red States is going to be a revolution if the DSCC backs it going forward.

But will Republicans try the same in Blue States?

Republicans could never convince the too-conservative Republican nominee to dropout.

What a coincidence because Weiland isn't dropping out either.

Source?

http://www.argusleader.com/story/davidmontgomery/2014/10/08/senate-blood-in-water/16933251/


Thanks! Smiley

Though behind the scenes I'd imagine things are not so set in stone.

Pressler now has a residency problem. Weiland isn't budging, my friend.

Yeah, I read that after posting. If I had to bet I'd say this probably goes to a three way race till the end, but a lot depends on the next week or so. If either challenger pulls ahead there's going to be even more pressure for the lagging one to drop out. It's just not set in stone yet, and as someone noted there are a ton of calls coming from every direction now.
93  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: KS: SUSA: Orman +5 on: October 10, 2014, 07:44:25 pm
Only 5%? Yeah, Pat has the W.

Are you going to call us "fools" again if we think otherwise, just like with Tillis/Hagan?  

Yes. Next question...

It will be highly amusing if you wind up backtracking like you did on North Carolina.

No, what's highly amusing is how riled up people get about my posts while, in same breath, telling me I have to calm down. Smiley

But don't worry: I'm absolutely sticking with the fact that Roberts will win.

And "easily" too, don't forget. Just like Brownback will win "comfortably".

Sorry Phil, based on this level of smug assuredness a month out, you get zero crowing rights for either squeaking by by a point or three.

Wow. The stench of defeat is creeping in, isn't it?

Nope, just the stench of you moving the goalposts.

And FTR, find where I ever said Orman was going to win. I doubt if I ever said more than he was "favored", if even that (I don't remember).
94  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: David Perdue: "Yeah, I spent most of my career" outsourcing on: October 10, 2014, 07:40:02 pm
Adam, one what basis do you say Nunn has a better chance of winning the runoff than outright, given the historical drop in runoff turnout among young and minority voters.
95  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Is Joni Ernst (R-IA) or Mike Rounds (R-SD) likelier to win? on: October 10, 2014, 07:35:37 pm
96  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: GA-Landmark: Tied race on: October 10, 2014, 07:25:17 pm
Baring a gamechanger event, the only real question in both GA races is whether the Republicans win outright or in a runoff.
97  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Who wins Massachusetts? on: October 10, 2014, 07:13:10 pm
98  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Al Realpolitik Institute of Sulfur Mining & Extraction on: October 10, 2014, 06:58:59 pm

Anyway, this is a predictably dismal thread. The idea that Islam is uniquely violent - or that the forms of violence associated with the Islamic world are unique to it - is bogus and bigoted, but the well-intended defences of Islam that tend to get wheeled out (and have been here) are pathetically weak and all too often rely on bad history.

Yet another high handed judgement without feeling the need to elaborate and exemplify his critique or engage in a debate. Basically just: "I am so smart and you are all so  stupid."

Hits too close to home?

Is that a good burn? Its a standard line you can always fall back on if you have nothing really clever to say.

OK, I'll elaborate. You are exactly the kind of know-nothing unapologetically Islamaphobic bigot whom Al referred to, so it's not surprising you would offer a substanceless generic retort to his rather insightful observation.

Nonstandard enough for you?
99  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Top 10 Favorite Restaurants on: October 10, 2014, 06:51:47 pm
Is there a link between fundamentalist Christianity and a preference for generic chain restaurants?

There's a link between religiousness and living in rural, non-cosmopolitan areas; and there's also a link between living in rural, non-cosmopolitan areas and preferring generic chain restaurants because that's often genuinely the best* option when you're far away from the density, wealth, and ethnic diversity which are all-too-often prerequisites for good local food.

*or at least safest, or possibly even only  

But a local restaurant could theoretically still serve delicious "home cooking" or "American" fare without getting too cosmopolitan. I say "could theoretically" as from my time in rural Ohio I found that one couldn't get a good meal at any local restaurant better than the "you want fries with that?" level. I'm no snob who can't enjoy Denny's or the like, but when there was NOTHING better than that available without driving at least 30-60 minutes in any direction, it gets kinda depressing.

Or, if you've grown up used to that, I guess you get used to mediocre food being "okay" since there's no competition. So I think I just answered my own question.
100  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: October 10, 2014, 06:38:03 pm
There've definitely been worst posts in Atlas history, though few so unashamedly churlish upon getting utterly smoked.

CNN also said NH-Sen was a tie. Outlier.

LOL OMG AND DIDNT THEY SAY SARKOZY WOULD BE RE-ELECTED AND THAT COLOMBIA WOULD WIN THE WORLD CUP THIS YEAR? HA HA

While you are hardly unique in this regard, most people would probably have more respect for someone who, with a history of making predictions defying conventional wisdom that did not pan out, expressed greater epistemic uncertainty when making a similar prediction in the present, and did not make ad hominem attacks against those who subscribed to conventional wisdom. True, you too have been victim of ad hominem attacks, but those are in large part a (desired?) consequence of your conduct agitating for a dispute.

Shut up.

Roll Eyes at thinking I seriously used that as a comeback at someone attacking me for being too vicious.

You guys really need to get a gripe or acknowledge your own ridiculous bias if you think my routine is anything different from Lief's.

Well, Lief's is actually funny, you see.
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