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76  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Conservatives against Trump launch formal effort for alternative candidate on: May 08, 2016, 01:32:30 am
Lol.

Donald Trump shouldn't be scared. This third party candidate might get 1% of the votr at best.

It all depends on who the candidate is. There is no shortage of people not happy with options on the right and there are people who have sizable followings that could take up the cause promoting the alternative candidate.


Correct answers.
77  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Does this forum completely fail to understand working class whites? on: May 08, 2016, 01:10:46 am
So are we being invaded by girls and working class whites? Shocked

I've been here for more than a decade so it hardly counts as an invasion.

Forgive my ignorance Al, but aren't/weren't you like a doctoral student or something? Not that the two can't theoretically be reconciled, but......
78  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: DWPERRYWATCH on: May 08, 2016, 01:06:56 am
...Damn. I was expecting his Twitter to be TRUMP-level hilarious. Turns out it's just basically a stream of third-party and independent news. That's a shame.

As for you, Sanchez, don't undermine Perry's campaign. I'll be completely serious here; the fact that a former Atlas poster could end up being the nominee of the biggest third party in the United States is somewhat inspiring and uplifting. Besides, I'd prefer to see DW Perry in the general election, just so that his hilarious campaign can continue.

Word. And I'll note that prior discussions in the Mod Cave have indicated that using anything ever posted on Atlas to f$#k with someone's real world life--even in a political sense like Perry's--is a mega permanent ban and salt the earth level infraction (with which I 101% agree).
79  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: DWPERRYWATCH on: May 08, 2016, 01:04:52 am
My guess is that he's a fascist running as a Libertarian; the state party does not seem to like him. After he announced his campaign, the state party chairman resigned and called him a 'fascist' and a 'neo-Nazi', and also accused Sol Invictus of sacrificing a goat and drinking his blood.

Invictus actually admitted not long ago to doing just that in a neo-pagan ritual.
80  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: opinion of dempgh on: May 08, 2016, 01:01:22 am
He is a great guy.
81  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the temp banned posters, Shadows and Landslide Lyndon? on: May 08, 2016, 12:58:39 am
To be clear, the repulsive Greek is by far the worse of the two.

No, not really.
82  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Al Realpolitik Institute of Sulfur Mining & Extraction on: May 08, 2016, 12:56:00 am
Lyndon fled to AAD. Sad

Good, they deserve each other.

And you deserve sh**t Atlas! Smiley

I suppose that would explain why you're still here.

Also a good example why surfing AAD is like hanging out with with a dude who broke up with their girlfriend months ago but still won't stop talking about them.
83  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How does TRUMP possibly win? on: May 08, 2016, 12:50:54 am
None of this is likely to happen, but it is Trump's most plausible path IMO:



Trump/Webb 301 EV 43.0%
Clinton/Hickenlooper 227 EV 41.5%
Romney/Sandoval 10 EV 14.5%

I think Clinton could avoid even this scenario by picking a high energy VP like Warren, but it is what concerns me most as of today.




I don't see how having two conservatives on the ballot splits the vote for a Trump win but ok.

Think 1948/1968/1980.  Third parties don't always hurt the side we expect them to hurt. Wallace ended up hurting the most pro-civil rights candidate and Anderson hurt the populist Dem rather than the upscale conservative Rep.  And no one thought Truman would overcome both Thurmond and Wallace, but they ended up making him look like the reasonable middle.  It's more likely that this scenario would lead to a 1912 result, but Trump would love a free chance to run left.

No on several levels.
84  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What % of white women will Clinton get against Trump? on: May 08, 2016, 12:49:17 am
I think she'll do better than Obama '12 among white women and worse among white men, which will roughly equal out overall. 45% I guess.

Hillary will do worse than Obama among all demographics.

Even Mormons?

Or Mexicans

Seriously. Ljube, I'll bet you $100 Hillary will do better among Hispanics than Obama did in 12.
85  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What % of white women will Clinton get against Trump? on: May 08, 2016, 12:47:18 am
Below 42% for sure.

Roll Eyes

Oh, please share your "analysis" with us.
86  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: FiveThirtyEight Demographic Calculator Revisited: Can you make Trump win? on: May 08, 2016, 12:38:51 am
If the exercise is to make Trump win and be somewhat realistic, then I think it is something like this

My Demographics
College-Educated Whites: 54% Trump, 74% Turnout (Turnout and R share is down a bit)
Non-College-Educated Whites: 69% Trump, 61% Turnout (big surge for Trump with his base, he loves the uneducated)
Blacks: 90% Clinton, 61% Turnout (This go back to pre-Obama levels)
Hispanic: 79% Clinton, 63% Turnout (a bit worse than Romney but not too bad)
Asians/Other: 75% Clinton, 53% Turnout (a bit worse than Romney but not too bad)



Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY) - 49.1%, 273 EV's
S.O.S. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 49.1%, 265 EV's



This Trump wins scenario is the one making the most sense thus far. Though I agree it just doesn't seem at all likely.
87  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: #NeverTrump GOP endorsements (Sasse,Whitman,Romney,Baker, Beck,Kristol,Ridge...) on: May 07, 2016, 11:03:41 am
Former FL Rep. and current Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough says he won’t vote for Trump unless Trump backs away from some of his more extreme proposals like the Muslim ban:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/joe-scarborough-trump-vote-222834

Quote
"And I gotta say I was surprised and disappointed ... that yesterday, he stuck by the Muslim ban. That's a loser. It's a loser with the majority of Americans. And you've got Republicans like me. I just, I'm not going to vote for a guy" like that, Scarborough said, remarking that Trump has to signal that he would be willing to accept some Muslim refugees as long as they did not come from, say, Syria.

He added, "I'm never going to vote for a guy who says they are going to ban somebody because of the god they worship. And he's got to have to make that turn fast. He didn't do it yesterday. Maybe he does it over the next couple of weeks.”


So much for Trump/Scarborough.

While I can at least understand social conservatives like JCL not wanting to back Trump because of his strong flirtation with being pro-choice, pro-gay rights, and in favor of Single Payer Health Insurance comma I am got against us that they have Paw Coursey other Republicans like Scarborough and Company who claimed it's Trump's supposedly extreme views on Banning Muslims and the like and immigration that keep them from supporting him. And yet they would in a second rally around Ted Cruz if he won the nomination who holds essentially the exact same policy decisions. For most of these Republicans the only reason they're not supporting Trump vs. Cruise isn't because they have any different views, but rather because Cruz presented in a Harvard Law School veneer of respectable appearance, where is Trump presents the exact same policies with the vulgarity of a reality show star that he is. Color Me unimpressed by the so-called principled Republicans for withholding your support of trump a hundred and 1% on the basis of Style versus substance.
88  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic Guam Caucus results thread (8pm Fri - 6am Sat ET) on: May 07, 2016, 10:50:11 am
Also, please post your thoughts on whether you think people from Guam should be called Guamis, Guamers, Guamites, or Guamanians.

Sure as hell ain't Guamerican.

Guamy Bears
89  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Proof positive that Trump is racist... on: May 07, 2016, 10:47:08 am
90  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of sssuperflash on: May 05, 2016, 11:33:46 pm
I like him, and his treatment of Vosem (along with the AAD crew) was cruel, but still pretty funny. Tongue

Huh Huh Wha'happen?
91  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of sssuperflash on: May 05, 2016, 11:33:19 pm
I like him, and his treatment of Vosem (along with the AAD crew) was cruel, but still pretty funny. Tongue

Huh Huh
92  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Irony Oremine on: May 05, 2016, 11:32:41 pm
They also show Cooper leading McCrory by 10 points (46-36) (but Burr is still ahead lol). Throw it in the trash.
Your posting history will have good company then.

the sulpher burn mine is elsewhere, TV
93  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Does this forum completely fail to understand working class whites? on: May 05, 2016, 11:28:30 pm
Good call.
94  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What do you have against Wall Street? on: May 05, 2016, 11:07:53 pm
I don't really despise Wall Street, they are just exercising their rights as free people. However, I wish the government would use their interstate Commerce powers to make sure they aren't screwing us over.

About this, so no.
I never saw this comment. What do you mean?

I think he's just agreeing with you, and he answered the poll "No".

correct. Wink
95  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Brawl between FOX and HuffingtonPost at WHCD after-party on: May 05, 2016, 11:03:54 pm
Of course the far left (communist) hate Watters because hes always making them look silly.

You wouldn't recognize a communist kid if one came and bit you in the ass.

A. He was being sarcastic

B. Usually, You wouldn't recognize is followed up with something related to it. I. E. You wouldn't recognize a book if you read it. In this case, "You wouldn't recognize... If he was reading the Communist Manifesto and quoting Karl Marx."

You aren't a native speaker of English, so those mocking you are just either stupid or willfully ignorant.


That said, I'm pretty sure Watters' World is satire. If it's not, it really should be. Like the onion.

A) have you read Keeler's posting history? sadly, he was serious.

B) you wouldn't recognize "x" if one bit you in the ass is a long held phrase in the english language.
96  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: DIRECT DEMOCRACY WATCH 2016 edition on: May 05, 2016, 09:46:43 am
I'm surprised no one's mentioned the single-payer initiative in Colorado yet.  Right now there's a Democratic super PAC raising money to defeat it.  (Can't post the article link yet)

Not surprisingly, it's backed by the state's largest health care providers.  Guess who their pick for president is...

Wow. That's truly an interesting turn of events and unusual cast of characters. What are the details behind it?
97  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: Cleaned-up 2016 Presidential election map. on: May 05, 2016, 09:42:14 am
Not to throw fuel on the fire, but can we all just please acknowledge reality and just update a single Trump vs. Hillary map?

If anyone wants to make ongoing Trump vs. Bernie maps they should do it in alternative timeline thread.
98  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Opinion of 538's initial nomination odds on: May 05, 2016, 02:14:07 am
In fairness, they were pretty accurate on the Democratic side, and Trump's entry on the GOP side threw all conventional wisdom out the window. Plus, this was very, very early on.

In still doesn't redeem how bad 538 has been since then though.
99  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How Many of Us Are Voting for Gary Johnson 2016? on: May 05, 2016, 02:10:26 am
GMOs:
Anti-labeling: Perry, Petersen
Pro-labeling: Johnson, McAfee

Oh god, I may have to step off the McAfee train.

I got that from his responses to isidewith: "Should producers be required to label genetically engineered foods (GMOs)?" "John McAfee: Yes"

However, I tried to find him supporting that position, and only found a seemingly contradictory answer given to the Libertarian Skeptics Network: "Do you oppose regulations mandating an arbitrary definition and punitive label for genetically engineered crops, and the associated implication that this life-saving technology is harmful and should be banned?" "I oppose call [sic] regulation. Period."

Somebody should pin McAfee down.

Johnson, though, is definitely pro-labeling. "I have celiac disease, so I need food labeled. I think food should be labeled, and that would include GMOs in food."

FWIW I am anti-labeling, but it's not a deal breaker for me.

Why is this a big deal? Labeling just makes people able to make better decisions for themselves.  Isn't that what libertarianism is about?  Making your own decisions. 

I used to think exactly that, but then I learned the need to sort and separate GMO produce from non-GMO produce in the largest agricultural producing, transporting, and packaging market in the world would be VERY expensive. The cost of labeling is worth it for items with an known health risk where the labeling can simply be done for all products in the industry at the production end (e.g. cigarettes), but it's nowhere near worth it for a chimera like GMOs.
100  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Election betting thread. on: May 05, 2016, 02:01:12 am
I'll bet $500 at 3-1 odds the Libertarian candidate doesn't hit 10% in a single state.
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