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76  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Melania Trump caught plagiarizing Michelle Obama's 2008 speech on: July 19, 2016, 12:18:59 am
Vox, the New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, MSNBC and Politico. So the left-wing press is on the attack, likely with marching orders from the DNC. I am shocked I tell you, shocked.

Oh shut up and read the comparisons for yourself. If this were a term paper Melania would be facing academic discipline. (Hehe, probably the only time you'll see Melania Trump and "academic" used in the same sentence).

Quit your chronic bootlicking and just acknowledge that an East European former model and mail order trophy wife doesn't have the brain power to write a cogent speech on her own and needed spoon-fed?

77  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Thoughts on Kasich not attending the GOP convention... on: July 19, 2016, 12:14:57 am
He was in Cleveland, three blocks from the Q center during the floor fight on rules. He was a guest of the IL delegation.

There. He's shown up. Good enough. Grin
78  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Republican National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 19, 2016, 12:08:22 am
Seriously?, Classic Conservative, bronz-whatever.

You care so much about America and fighting ISIS? Enlist. Tomorrow. You say how important it is to have the Third Gulf War to fight ISIS like Orange Don says? Enlist. Tomorrow. You think it's important to defend America from "Radical Islam", which of COURSE means you believe in carrying the torch yourself rather than by others? Enlist. Tomorrow.

Until then, STFU.

He can't, he's literally 14 years old

Good. Then he can STFU until he can enlist at 17 1/2.
79  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How would Sanders be doing against Trump right now? on: July 19, 2016, 12:07:30 am
The better question is how would Warren be doing. That.....would be an astronomical lead.
80  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Republican National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 19, 2016, 12:03:55 am
OK. I can't take anymore tonight. The idiots abound. In Forum, in Cleveland, and across the country.
81  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Republican National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 19, 2016, 12:00:42 am
exactly how is he "encroaching"?

meaning keep your BLM, cop shooting, chicago drug murderfest far far away. Go have your wonderful diversity of smiles and sunshine and open borders and trans gay bruce jennerism. Enjoy it. Not for me

OOOHH!!! And a homophobe too. Invariably the type who crys after masterbating to thoughts of men...
82  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Republican National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 18, 2016, 11:59:09 pm
Did this awful convention night really just happen?

please, as if you'd react any other way regardless of what happened.

Trayvon Martin, punk thug, tried beating a mans skull into concrete and got shot for it, they're having the mother that raised this degenerate speak at the Democratic convention. I don't think there's a bigger joke than that...





Don't really care. I take responsibility for my own future, my own family, my finances...I'll be fine regardless of who wins. Hillary may win...and maybe this country will (god forbid) continue to tumble down the road to racial strife, as cops continue getting assassinated, as BLM continue to terrorize. I will be far far away from that.

Blacks overwhelmingly voted for Obama, just like they overwhelmingly will vote for Hillary. Replace Hillary with an Intimate Carbon Rod with a D next to it? Yep...88%

maybe if people like you in the GOP would stop spewing bs about them and other minorities and we'd be more inclined to vote for Republicans.

Just because it's not sugar coated and unpleasant to hear doesn't make it BS.

You're kidding right? Well, I hope you have fun with your increasingly white party that will continue to lose elections because it loses more brown folks like me and blacks and Hispanics.

Ultimately yes, that's where the demographics seem to be headed right? So what's the end game? Let the Democratic party become the party of Islam and BLM and hand outs and violence against cops. Frankly I'd rather lose than incorporate those evil elements.

Did you ever know you are one unapologetically racist SOB? Just sayin'

Nah. No racist every admits it to themselves. It's just MOST of those nigg....um, blacks who are scum.
83  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Republican National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 18, 2016, 11:56:51 pm
Seriously?, Classic Conservative, bronz-whatever.

You care so much about America and fighting ISIS? Enlist. Tomorrow. You say how important it is to have the Third Gulf War to fight ISIS like Orange Don says? Enlist. Tomorrow. You think it's important to defend America from "Radical Islam", which of COURSE means you believe in carrying the torch yourself rather than by others? Enlist. Tomorrow.

Until then, STFU.
84  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Republican National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 18, 2016, 11:44:43 pm
THIS IS SUCH BS

GO AWAY PATRICIA SMITH

Oh piss off. She still lost her son.

No what pisses me off, is not that she is emotional regarding the death of her son in Libya.

What *does* piss me off is that the RNC in an attempt to "slime" Hillary Clinton regarding Libya/Benghazi that there appears to be a completely blind eye when it comes to the death of Americans in Iraq.

I lost a good friend in Iraq, assigned to the Oregon National Guard, who died in combat outside of Taji/Camp Cooke at the hands of a roadside bomb and decisions made by the Bush Administration, not only to go into Iraq, but additionally to use "stop-loss" and not provide uparmored Humvees...

It sickens me that the RNC decided to use this mother's grief to make political points against Hillary Clinton, while not even addressing the real grief that families and friends of those who have fallen in Iraq in order to try to score cheap political points.

If anyone is interested, here is a tribute to my friend from Corvallis/Albany who served his country and died in Iraq, despite his personal reservations about the merits of the mission.

http://thefallen.militarytimes.com/army-spc-eric-s-mckinley/263041

So none of the "chicken-hawks" out there even felt a need to respond to my post, let alone Atlas "Liberal Democrats"....

Sad day for America and the forum when we have multiple pages of discussion regarding a grieving mother who lost a child in Libya, but no interest or even comments regarding the loss of my friend in Iraq.



What could one say, NOVA? You put it very eloquently, and the Li'l virgin neckbeard brownshirts chirping their cultist-like stupidity frankly aren't capable of responding.
85  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Republican National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 18, 2016, 11:31:45 pm
This woman is crazy.

She lost her child.

So she has a good explanation for being crazy. Doesn't change the facts.
Facts? Were you in the room when Hillary! told her what she did? Seems like you are calling Mrs. Smith a liar.

Good job, you figured it out. She's a liar.
Doubtful. Mrs. Smith lost her son.

Hillary! and Obama had the election at stake.

Who has more motive to lie here?

86  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Republican National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 18, 2016, 11:27:23 pm
This entire day has been such a turnoff for any reasonably educated and decent Republican.  Can they try any harder to appeal to the uneducated, xenophobic southern hicks?!  Seriously why the heck is some duck dynasty bum on stage?  He needs to take a shower.

Middle America likes Duck Dynasty.

Your definition of "Middle America" is.....'quaint'.
87  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: WV delegate calls for Clinton to be executed on: July 17, 2016, 02:04:00 pm
He'll probably be a Representative/Senator/Governor eventually. The Racist WV Hicks will eat this up.

The poor, ugly-as-sh**t hacky sack playing philosophy majors with terrible BO who frequent Philadelphia coffee shops (where they all tell each other how smart they are) will eat up Hillary's proposals to raise taxes on people who have done something with their lives the big, bad rich people.

Ah, there's that obnoxious sense of privilege we all know puts the R in RINO..
88  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton pledges constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United ruling on: July 17, 2016, 01:59:30 pm
Good luck with that, Hillary! You won't get 2/3 of each branch of Congress to pass the authorization and you won't get 3/4 of the states to ratify.

Alternatively, you won't get 2/3rds of the states to call for a Constitutional Convention.

Fail. Just like your campaign come November and your pathetic attempt to jail a guy who made a video for "egging on" the Benghazi attacks.

Quit being sexist.
Reality is very sexist.

The House will remain Republican. The Republicans may lose a few seats in the Senate, but the Democrats do not have a mathematical way to get to 2/3rds.

And even assuming that happens, how many complete state legislatures + governors are solely controlled by the Democrats right now?

This amendment is about as dead as any Republican attempt to define marriage solely between a man and a women via amendment. And that's with Republicans in control of both Houses and a good number of state apparatuses.

Red meat for the base's consumption. Nothing more, nothing less.

Reality fails to reach you since you are one of the 10 people in the whole country who doesn't believe that Sarah Palin is a doodoo head.

You're one to talk about red meat when your party does nothing but hold partisan-driven witch hunts (Benghazi and EmailGate) in attempts to bring down Hillary Clinton.

Nice try, though.

That the investigations of Hillary were driven by partisan politics is one thing.  So was the Watergate Committee, and no Democrats complained about that.  So was the House Judiciary Committee's Impeachment Inquiry on Nixon, and no Democrats complained about that.

That the investigations of the Gowdy Committee and the FBI revealed facts relevant to Hillary's past performance in high office is a true statement.  The Gowdy Committee revealed that Hillary made poor decisions regarding Embassy Security.  If the host country could not guarantee the safety of our Embassy personnel, then we don't have an Embassy in that country; that's how things have always been done, and that's what Hillary should have done.  Not have an Embassy.  The FBI investigation revealed that Hillary blew off established policy and law in favor of her own desire to not be transparent, and it backfired badly.  While I don't advocate "Hillary for Prison" and while I'm not one to deny her classified information (a partisan ploy of the GOP), her handling of this issue reflects poorly on her.  They reflect a woman who doesn't follow inconvenient rules, is not honest when confronted, and is only sorry about getting caught.

America is, perhaps, long overdue for a female President.  That being said, why her?  What part of her history and background was so compelling that the Democratic Party establishment was willing to clear the field for her in an OPEN election year (shoving a popular Democratic Vice President to the sidelines)?  The last time this happened was Richard Nixon in 1960, and Nixon was a sitting VP who had extensive foreign affairs experience and had actually stepped in for Eisenhower during his 1955 heart attack.  Was Hillary really in THAT position?  Were there NO Democrats worthy of consideration for the Democratic Party primary electorate to consider, to the point that a non-Democrat (Sanders) provided the competition for the nomination?

The way Hillary has won this nomination is disgusting.  It has the aura of a debt being paid; of an IOU being cashed in.  It has little to do with qualifications, and, especially, the qualifications of character.  Hillary Clinton blows Donald Trump away in the area of self-serving and narcissism, and that's saying a lot.  Democrats, and the nation, deserved better than what the Democratic Party gave them this primary season.  America deserves better than a self-serving liar with scores to settle as their 45th President.

The Watergate hearings and Nixon's impeachment were driven by "partisan politics"?!? Shocked

My God, you have no idea how truly "special " you are, do you?
89  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How stoked are you for the "Night of Benghazi" at the GOP convention? on: July 17, 2016, 01:50:14 pm
Beghazi symbolize criminal nature of foreign policy pursued by Obama administration. He confessed that the invasion to Lybia was a mistake, actually it was a crime.  One crime instigated another crime,  i. e. Beghazi attack. 
A cure you say? On what basis?

And what invasion?

In a Fox News interview last Sunday, Obama was asked about his “worst mistake.”
“Probably failing to plan for the day after, what I think was the right thing to do, in intervening in Libya.” This was yet another act of presidential contrition for the NATO operation in 2011 that helped to overthrow Muammar Qaddafi but left the country deeply unstable.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/04/obamas-worst-mistake-libya/478461/

Don't you have an autocracy to run, Mr. Putin?
90  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton campaign is now actually using Pokemon Go to register voters on: July 17, 2016, 01:49:11 pm
This fun human interest piece has made me VERY ANGRY. I will not rest until everyone in this thread is as miserable as I am.

It really is amusing how whiny some people are about this.

Many of the same ones who thought the Trump campaign's use of a Pokemon Go-based ad earlier this week was brilliant.
91  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: BREAKING: Baton Rouge, LA cops killed in shooting Sunday on: July 17, 2016, 10:58:07 am
This may be the effect of BLM, maybe President Obama, the media dividing the nation, I don't know.

Or maybe when you shoot at people they eventually start shooting back?

(I'm not saying this is a good thing, far from it.)

Or that both of you (one in particular) are posting like idiots?

Stop. Just, stop.
92  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does Clinton do better than Obama? on: July 17, 2016, 03:30:21 am
No, she'll lose against TRUMP.

Put $100 on it short of Clinton being indicted.

I'm serious.
93  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Maps. All the maps. on: July 17, 2016, 03:29:29 am

Me three. Smiley
94  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Is it hypocritical for SJW bands to have sex with female show attendees on tour? on: July 17, 2016, 03:21:45 am
Don't you have your own Forum on Toxic Atlas to attention whore at?
95  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of "Comedians in Cars Getting Abortions" on: July 17, 2016, 03:15:21 am
Not even a political issue for me, it just ain't funny.
96  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Ebsy? on: July 17, 2016, 03:02:03 am
I don't get all of the hate. This is Atlas, almost everyone is a little hackish at times. Don't know him that well, but he seems like an FF on balance.
97  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: TX-23: Anzalone-Liszt (D): Rep. Hurd (R) losing rematch on: July 17, 2016, 03:01:06 am
Not surprised, but isn't the PVI of this district R+3? Romney won it 51-48 in 2012.
Yes, but Canseco always manages to overperform.

It would be nice for the 23rd to have a rural representative instead of someone from the San Antonio suburbs who take a two-hour flight to get to some parts of his district and doesn't know anything about border issues or ranching or water issues.

Well, blame that on gerrymandering.
98  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: New poll shows Asian-Americans are more supportive of Democratic Party than ever on: July 17, 2016, 02:48:46 am
It's interesting to me that what is rarely brought up in these threads is that with the exception of southern blacks in the black belt, most ethnic minorities are heavily concentrated in cities, where democratic machines are very efficient at mobilizing and reaching voters.

What if this Asian transformation is in reality a symptom of the growing urban-rural divide?

There are a lot of rural Hispanics. I don't think they vote that differently from suburban Hispanics.

Republicans who think the right candidate will get them Asian or Hispanic voters are over-optimistic. Most minorities vote Democrat for a simple reason: they hold socially and economically liberal beliefs. That can be changed, but not in the short-term.

Asians and Hispanics aren't going in the same direction though. 2nd-generation Hispanics (excluding Cubans) are typically more conservative than their parents as they assimilate. Meanwhile, Asian voters go in the opposite direction because they probably cannot be assimilated in the same way and start adopting views similar to those of the racial "other" in American society (blacks).

A GOP that gets 60% of non-hispanic whites, 35% of hispanics, 15% of Asians, and 15% of blacks is in a perfectly fine position.
That's a highly optimistic view of Hispanic voting trends and GOP voting share.
99  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How can Trump win without Pennsylvania? on: July 17, 2016, 02:36:20 am


Trump 277
Clinton 261

Hell, Trump could lost NH and ME-2 in this scenario (as he's almost sure to) and still win. This is probably the most realistic scenario. Basically 2004 repeat minus NM.
100  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does Clinton do better than Obama? on: July 17, 2016, 02:28:56 am
I'll say... better than 2008, but not double digits. The map is 2008 + AZ - IN. GA is one of the closest states.

About this, and falling not too short on double digits.
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