Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 22, 2015, 11:15:06 pm
HomePredMockPollEVCalcAFEWIKIHelpLogin Register
News: Atlas Hardware Upgrade complete October 13, 2013.

  Show Posts
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 ... 404
1  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Mideast Record-Courier Polls: Best Atlasian President (Since Dissolution) on: May 21, 2015, 06:30:55 pm
1. Polnut
2. Duke/Nix (tie)
3. Cranberry
4. Lumine Van Reuental
5. Nathan
6. Marokai
7. DemPGH
8. "Napoleon", the worst President in Atlasian history.
2  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Will Deism ever make a major comeback (in the US)? on: May 21, 2015, 08:39:33 am
lmao
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How will this board react when Hillary Clinton loses in 2016? on: May 20, 2015, 04:04:50 pm
I'm looking forward to Democrats talking about skewed polls when they correctly predict a defeat.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary caught in another email lie (!) on: May 20, 2015, 03:55:43 pm
From addresses don't change if you move emails to a different account. If you set up a new email account it doesn't magically change the information in your previous emails. Good to see the Clintons' allies in the media are out in force though.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party leadership election 2015 on: May 20, 2015, 01:36:55 pm
Yes, it looks as if (in nominations terms) there's only room for one of them.

Oh and Danczuk is not running for Deputy.

Looks like my crucial endorsement will go to Tom Watson then. Sad
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Hillary caught in another email lie (!) on: May 20, 2015, 01:22:06 pm
A second private account that her cronies have claimed didn't exist during her tenure as Secretary of State. Oops.

http://nypost.com/2015/05/19/hillary-clinton-had-a-second-secret-e-mail-address/

Quote
“Fyi. The idea of using private security experts to arm the opposition should be considered,” Clinton
wrote Blumenthal from the ­email address HRod17@clintonemail.com.

The two were discussing strategies to help the opposition rebels oust Moammar Khadafy in Libya as that country descended into chaos in 2011.
Clinton’s office insisted just two months ago that the only private email address used by the former secretary of state during her tenure was hdr22@clintonemail.com.

In a 2015 letter to Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC), Clinton’s lawyer acknowledged that the HRod17 email address existed, but stated explicitly that it was “not an address that existed during Secretary Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state.”

The time stamps and content of the messages make clear that this statement was inaccurate, according to the Times report.

There's also the fun detail that Hillary is attempting to delay the release process by, bizarrely, printing out hard copies of all 55,000+ emails and submitting them.

7  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What will be your favorite part of the Hillary Clinton administration? on: May 20, 2015, 12:07:06 pm
These are all uncannily accurate predictions of Hillary's disastrous presidency, should that come to pass. The impeachment over Benghazi will be great fun, but you should included the (related) "Republicans win veto-proof majorities in 2018" option.

I don't think she'll win though.
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Survey Atlasia: April Presidential Approval Rating on: May 20, 2015, 12:05:19 pm
Bore is a noble-hearted patriot and humble Christian, and he has my full faith and support.
9  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the R-Word Campaign on: May 20, 2015, 07:21:14 am
Geez, where did you all grow up? I mean, I don't think it's the worst word in the world though I've never used it in the noun form. I'd imagine most have the decency to at least restrain themselves from using it most of the time and from what I've seen, actively discouraging others from doing so.

What kind of people do you hang out where someone saying "retard" is tut tutted about? I get that you wouldn't use it in, like, a shareholder's meeting, but in casual company?
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the R-Word Campaign on: May 19, 2015, 06:20:46 pm
rofl
11  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Best Senators of the Past 50 Years: Alabama on: May 19, 2015, 04:06:07 pm
I predict this will not be an interesting idea.
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Capital Punishment Restoration Act on: May 19, 2015, 03:24:57 pm
Letting non-Senators introduce bills really was an awful idea.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What would Andrew Cuomo be like in Atlasia? on: May 19, 2015, 02:54:03 pm
14  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How would you have voted for TARP (by party)? on: May 19, 2015, 02:13:07 pm
No (R). If we all are going to eat s[INKS]t in another great depression, the banksters should be eating it with us.

So your logic is "we should have let the banking system collapse and caused a second Depression so that the bankers would suffer"?
If we're going to suffer either way (which the middle class certainly did), then yes, we might as well all go down together.

Do you understand how bonkers this is?

Let me use an analogy. Someone burns your house down, so you suffer. A better alternative by your logic is that you instead set off an atomic bomb and end all life on earth because it's only fair that he suffer too.
The analogy is false. Setting off an atomic bomb would destroy the property of others, after all. Now, if the arsonist burnt down every other home in the area, then sure, blow the whole thing apart and rebuild from the ground up.

YES AND LETTING THE BANKING SYSTEM COLLAPSE WOULD AFFECT EVERYONE FAR, FAR WORSE THAN THE ACTUAL RECESSION DID. Why is this is a difficult point to understand? Is your solution seriously to plunge the global economy into ruin so that we can "rebuild from the ground up"? Is this some kind of primitivist thing?

Quote
It's not like TARP helped the working class out, on the whole. Millions lost their jobs and their homes. It wasn't a depression, but it wasn't your average recession either, and the affects of it will linger for a generation.

I'd argue that not having a second Great Depression helped the working class out quite a lot, actually.
15  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How would you have voted for TARP (by party)? on: May 19, 2015, 02:01:05 pm
No (R). If we all are going to eat s[INKS]t in another great depression, the banksters should be eating it with us.

So your logic is "we should have let the banking system collapse and caused a second Depression so that the bankers would suffer"?
If we're going to suffer either way (which the middle class certainly did), then yes, we might as well all go down together.

Do you understand how bonkers this is?

Let me use an analogy. Someone burns your house down, so you suffer. A better alternative by your logic is that you instead set off an atomic bomb and end all life on earth because it's only fair that he suffer too.
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Was Lyndon Johnson a good President? on: May 19, 2015, 01:59:45 pm
Best president in the past 50 years.

Cry me a river about Vietnam, because literally every President since sans Carter is guilty of something like it.

So yeah, the silly neocon that brought forth the Great Society and CRA of 1964 is definitely superior to the silly neocons who also bring forth silly Reaganomics

"Cry me a river" about slaughtering people in the millions because of a psychotic machismo?
17  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How would you have voted for TARP (by party)? on: May 19, 2015, 01:54:38 pm
Yes (normal). A lot of very courageous decisions in this thread. Bedstuy is obviously correct - to vote in favour doesn't mean that TARP was perfect, particularly since it ended up being an equity support scheme rather than actual toxic asset relief. Still crucial - it's not like recapitalisation is a bad thing.

Voting no on this is an insane troll position, as far as I'm concerned.

If the banking system collapses there would be a revolution

No (R). If we all are going to eat s[INKS]t in another great depression, the banksters should be eating it with us.

So your logic is "we should have let the banking system collapse and caused a second Depression so that the bankers would suffer"?
18  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is Protectionism ever appropriate? on: May 19, 2015, 01:47:54 pm
Very strange to see the infant industry argument is so popular here. I voted "no" although the question's quite broad even with the options provided. Is infant industry the moderate hero option?

Yes, when a nation is industrializing, its's infant industries need protection. However, after they have been established, free trade benefits everyone.

yeah, it sure has benefited those industrial workers who went from making $25/hour+benefits to making $7.25/hour part-time with no benefits at McDonald's amirite

No, we just have to act as if everything is alright and that if you just get one more job then you can have your ends meet. Suburban kids talking about how "free trade benefits everyone" is extremely laughable.

?

When people say "free trade benefits everyone" they mean that the net benefit to society (at home and abroad!) is far greater than than the loss, which has been historically pretty well supported by the evidence. Most people in the United States are far better off as a result of free trade, even if some industries suffer.

In any event, the idea that trade has been primarily responsible for the decline in US manufacturing is a canard. If you're looking for something to blame, blame productivity gains and start smashing automated assembly lines with a hammer.

Matt Yglesias, who has in fact jumped on the anti-TTIP bandwagon, literally published something on this very topic yesterday. Manufacturing output is actually at its highest level ever, which means that protectionism would be of zero use (and massively harmful given that manufacturing goods are primarily exported) to the "industrial worker" forced into a less attractive job. Yglesias provides this convenient chart c/o Pew:



So free trade are okay with no other countries?
What do you mean? In general I support free trade but I support protectionism against countries with bad human rights, labor, and environmental records and to protect infant industries from competition, if you were wondering what I meant.

Trade is the most efficient way to get said countries to improve their record in all aspects listed. Unless you'd prefer that people in those countries suffer unemployment in addition to the poor human and labour rights and a bad environment.

In summary,

19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / LOA (please don't impeach me) on: May 16, 2015, 02:23:17 pm
A bit short notice, but I'm afraid I've some stuff I need to sort out, won't be around for a few days. If something urgent comes up (Huh) I'm sure Bgwah and TJ can handle things if it's a court matter, likewise Sawx and Flo if it's a party matter.

Later comrades
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Southern Voting Booth - May 2015 Legislative Election on: May 15, 2015, 12:58:04 pm
1. DarTheBearNC
2. Spiral
3. SWE
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party leadership election 2015 on: May 15, 2015, 08:46:28 am
Oh God.
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party leadership election 2015 on: May 15, 2015, 05:21:26 am
If the Labour Party elects a guy called Tristram as leader they should disband immediately.


e: Suggesting we refer to withdrawals as "a reverse Farage".
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party leadership election 2015 on: May 15, 2015, 05:10:35 am
In reality it is probably due to lacking sufficient support.

I'd actually imagine that one of the tabloids has some SHOCKING STORY about his personal life. He was a garage DJ after all.
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party leadership election 2015 on: May 15, 2015, 04:56:40 am
In a brief comment to the press, Umunna says it was the sick burns laid by Obamaisadabest that convinced him to end his bid.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of sMilo on: May 14, 2015, 04:58:59 pm
Terrible.
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 ... 404


Login with username, password and session length

Logout

Powered by SMF 1.1.20 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines