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76  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Dartmouth Students Storm President's Offices, Seriousness of Demands Unclear on: April 06, 2014, 06:42:52 pm
Liberal Heroism is annoying, but these are a bunch of excitable college kids. Most of them will calm down a bit in a few years but still be reliable liberal voters and activists.
77  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mozilla CEO forced out because of Prop 8 Donation on: April 06, 2014, 01:20:14 pm
Whenever a government takes some kind of "liberal" action the Right whines and cries and moans and says things like, "I wouldn't care if it was companies doing this on their own; I just don't like the government forcing them. Why can't we just let the free market take of this?"

But when the free market accomplishes something "liberal" like this they still aren't happy. We saw it with the Episcopal Church earlier this decade, we saw it with the Boy Scouts last year, and we're seeing it with Mozilla now. I wish the Right would stop being so disingenuous when they are preaching the free market's virtues.
78  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: UConn vs UK: Who wins? on: April 06, 2014, 01:04:33 pm
Hopefully Connecticut (SEC hack)
79  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Senator Ron Johnson knew since 2011 about Assemblyman Kramer's Sexual Assault on: April 05, 2014, 11:57:50 pm
Ouch.


For the record, if Johnson were to resign, Wisconsin is one of the few states where the Governor doesn't appoint a placeholder. Instead, a special election would be held within a few months.

Wow, that would sure change the dynamic for this November, assuming a Democrat won.
80  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mozilla CEO forced out because of Prop 8 Donation on: April 05, 2014, 11:56:59 pm
I don't know why the left is apparently okay with McCarthyism
Anyway, excellent news! The market's at work! On a personal note, I'm glad this happened, since I use Firefox and now won't have to switch to Chrome. Smiley
Are you serious? You were actually going to switch to Chrome because of this? I have no opinion of the fact that this CEO was fired, but that's just ridiculous, for so many reasons.

ITT: Yellow avatar scoffs at a free market success story because reasons.
81  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mozilla CEO forced out because of Prop 8 Donation on: April 05, 2014, 09:56:24 pm
It feels like now that gay marriage in the courts is pretty much assured in the next few years, some folks are looking for new things to do on the gay rights front, so the slacktivists among them come up with stuff like this since forcing someone from the cool kids table doesn't require much real thought and effort.

I know, that damn free market, always screwing things up for the Republicans.
82  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Opinion of these charts ... on: April 05, 2014, 07:59:54 pm
Doesn't it cost a fortune to give birth in a US hospital?

It's typically $10-20k. And they'll do their best to turn you out as quickly as possible.

Dear lord. That would've been most of my salary when my daughter was born. How does your country even function?

Well most people have insurance (more than last year thanks to Obamacare), and (also thanks to Obamacare) maternity is always a covered benefit, so it's gotten better lately.
83  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mozilla CEO forced out because of Prop 8 Donation on: April 05, 2014, 07:58:19 pm
It's sad because we don't know why he supported Prop 8.

Some supporters were bigots who wanted to marginalize gays. Other supporters weren't convinced that an institution with centuries of ingrained heterosexual bias would work seamlessly for gays. Another faction was merely expressing their belief that marriage is a religious tenet and should be defined by the church.

People always assume the worst, and that's where the problems begin.

It's sad because we don't know why _____ supported Jim Crow.

Some supporters were bigots who wanted to marginalize blacks. Other supporters weren't convinced that an institution with centuries of ingrained Caucasian bias would work seamlessly for blacks. Another faction was merely expressing their belief that racial equality or lack thereof is a religious tenet and should be defined by the church.

People always assume the worst, and that's where the problems begin.
84  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mozilla CEO forced out because of Prop 8 Donation on: April 05, 2014, 07:56:48 pm
Oakvale is just totally right- I really cannot add anything he hasn't said. The intolerance of some for dissenting opinions is alarming.

Would you feel the same way if the CEO had donated to segregationist causes?

Remember, it's not the government who did this. This is pure free market, which Republicans worship when it's convenient.
85  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Drug testing on: April 05, 2014, 06:18:15 pm
It's been conclusively demonstrated that such policies cost more than they save, regardless of any moral issues. In fact, I think that this fact as been so well-publicized that it's impossible to even discuss the issue without the fact coming up.

I was completely stunned when Mississippi decided to enact this ... a few weeks ago (!?)
86  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mozilla CEO forced out because of Prop 8 Donation on: April 05, 2014, 06:09:18 pm
Mozilla has the right to fire whomever they like for whatever reason they please, though I find the marriage equality movement (which I of course support) distasteful at times (see Chick-Fil-A) and this is one of the reasons why.

Wait, what?  Chick-fil-A had the best business day in their entire history when all the fatass rednecks in the South waited over an hour for some greasy fast food just to stick it to Obama and all those libruls (as if they cared). To this day, right-wing Christians really think they're doing something by packing out Chick-fil-A. If anyone is embarrassing or "distasteful," it's all of those idiots.

Making anti-gay marriage statements was a brilliant business ploy for Chick-fil-A, gaining them many more customers than they lost (hell, I still eat there once a month or so). If I owned a restaurant, I'd probably make some statements like that too just to get business.
87  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mozilla CEO forced out because of Prop 8 Donation on: April 05, 2014, 05:57:25 pm
Would a CEO be fired if it came out that he had donated to a group that advocated treating non-whites like second class citizens, even if he had done it 6 years ago? At virtually ever company in America, the answer is yes.

This is the free market at work. Republicans should be loving it.
88  General Discussion / History / Re: Who was the most intelligent President? on: April 05, 2014, 02:46:36 pm
Garfield needs more credit. The man came up with a proof of the Pythagorean Theorem that no one had even thought of.
89  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Cosmos remake next Sunday (Mar 9th) on: April 05, 2014, 10:35:55 am
I've enjoyed it a lot too. Very well-done show.
90  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: And now Mississippi has passed Religious Freedom Protection Bill on: April 05, 2014, 09:46:20 am
This is what the bill says:

     (5)  (a)  Government shall not substantially burden a person's exercise of religion even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability, except as provided in paragraph (b) of this subsection.
          (b)  Government may substantially burden a person's exercise of religion only if it demonstrates that application of the burden to the person:
              (i)  Is in furtherance of a compelling governmental interest; and
              (ii)  Is the least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest.


Every supporter of the bill says that 5.b.i. will prevent any religious-based drug use since preventing drug use in Mississippi has always been considered a "compelling governmental interest."

Maybe a judge will provide a different interpretation and turn the tables on the Fringe Right supporters of this law (and that would be awesome), but we don't even have any peyote-smoking Indians in this state, nor do we have liberal judges who would do that anyway. Sure, I guess after a few years some federal judge could use this law to rule in favor of a non-Christian, but this law will almost certainly just be struck down for discrimination purposes long before that.

Why the Right wants to bury their heads in the sand and pretend this isn't about gays (remember, it has already been established by the state that protecting gay equality is NOT a "compelling governmental interest") is beyond me. Remember, this law was specifically written because similar, more-explicitly anti-gay bills were being proposed in other states.
91  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Artists who should be the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame but aren't on: April 04, 2014, 11:09:19 pm
92  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Mississippi 2014 discussion thread on: April 04, 2014, 10:38:39 pm
I'm not saying Cochran needs to move to the left at all. He has a solid conservative record and he should run on that. I've seen Senate rankings of how effective Senators are getting legislation passed and bringing in money to their states, and Cochran is #1 in the entire Senate. He has every reason to be proud of his record, and that's what he should be focusing his campaign on, not this, "NO! I am the more conservative candidate!!!1" Everyone knows he's not.

He should be exposing Chris McDaniel as too extreme for Mississippi, and someone who could never (and openly does not want to) be the great senator that he is.
93  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: are you focused on baseball? on: April 04, 2014, 09:37:15 pm
Yes, but primarily college baseball.

I've been going to some Terrapins games this year, now that the team is good for the first time in forever. It's nice preparation for when we dominate the Big Ten starting next year.

Wow, it never occurred to be how Maryland's baseball team is really getting screwed in this. Going from what's usually an 8- or 9-bid league to a 1- or 2-bid league.
94  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Why does Mathematics have no originality anymore? on: April 04, 2014, 09:35:22 pm
It has plenty of originality, it's just that new developments are way beyond the scope of 99.999% of the population.
95  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: And now Mississippi has passed Religious Freedom Protection Bill on: April 04, 2014, 09:29:08 pm
This is a state version of the federal law passed in the 1990s that stopped the feds from prosecuting peyote use in the Native American Church.   Of course it couldn't be passed today because gay rights.

I swear the left's memory is getting shorter and shorter.
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I guess you just ignored the fact that THIS EXACT EXAMPLE is specifically excluded from protections in this bill, per its authors? I guess all you cared about was getting in your little quip, facts be damned...
96  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Mississippi 2014 discussion thread on: April 04, 2014, 09:27:30 pm
By trying to make this a challenge of "No, I'M more conservative!!!" Cochran is playing right into McDaniel's hand and legitimizing his too-out-of-the-mainstream-even-for-Mississippi viewpoints.

Cochran has one of the best records as a Senator of anyone in the entire country. He should be running on that record and all the good he's done for the state. He's not going to be picking up any Tea Party True Believers with these ads, but he is turning off the reasonable people he needs to turn out for the primary.
97  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Supersoulty on: April 04, 2014, 07:17:55 pm
He was always a nice guy, both on and off the forum.
98  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: United States Senate Republican primary election in Mississippi, 2014 on: April 04, 2014, 03:31:25 pm
Cochran (D), but I won't be interfering in their primary.

It's just not worth it to replace one of the 5 least objectionable Republican senators to have a matchup between what would be one of the 5 most objectionable Republicans (probably #1 actually) and what would be one of the 5 most objectionable Democrats.  I would need to be 80% sure of a Childers victory over McDaniel to even consider it.
99  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Mississippi 2014 discussion thread on: April 04, 2014, 03:26:11 pm

WTF THAD.

YOU RUN ON YOUR RECORD.  YOU DON'T TRY TO OUT-TEAPARTY MCDANIEL.

As my dad always says, "Don't get in a pissing contest with a dick. They're made to win those."  Thad needs to campaign on his decades of bipartisanship and all the pork he's brought home. He's one of the few Senators who can navigate the partisan gridlock and bring home the bacon even in when he's not in the Majority. THAT is what Thad should emphasize, not some "Durr I'm pro life and pro gun and I sure hate Obama!!!!!1," because McDaniel has already won that crowd.
100  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: And now Mississippi has passed Religious Freedom Protection Bill on: April 04, 2014, 03:22:35 pm
This is a state version of the federal law passed in the 1990s that stopped the feds from prosecuting peyote use in the Native American Church.   Of course it couldn't be passed today because gay rights.

Actually, one of the Democrats in the legislature specifically asked one of the sponsors from the floor if this would allow Native Americans to use peyote, and the answer is no.
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