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76  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What time will Donald Trump concede? on: November 06, 2016, 05:36:32 pm
He'll end up doing a gracious speech like he did when he lost the Iowa caucus to Cruz. Probably sometime after midnight Eastern.
77  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who will win Ohio? on: November 05, 2016, 11:07:10 pm
Tilt Trump, but it won't be enough to hand him the White House.
78  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Your reaction if you wake up to this map on Nov. 9? on: November 05, 2016, 10:58:24 pm
If Stein wins Florida I'll be extremely surprised.
79  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: I'm really worried this transit strike will hand PA to Trump on: November 05, 2016, 09:58:42 pm
As a Deep Southerner, I don't really know anything about unions at all, but couldn't they halt the strike and work Tuesday, and then strike again starting Wednesday? Is that legal?
80  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Rushed Off Stage in NV - Update: False Alarm/Just Protester on: November 05, 2016, 09:07:08 pm
This is not a minor dust-up. This is attempted murder. If this was at a Hillary rally they'd be combing the entire arena for any kind of confederate flag or NRA cap

Why are you so willfully ignorant? You know there was no gun, no attempted murder, no "close call," nothing, but you just want to pretend like there was so you can milk it.
81  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Rushed Off Stage in NV - Update: False Alarm/Just Protester on: November 05, 2016, 09:05:39 pm
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A Homeland Security official confirms the @ABC report: no gun found, crowd panicked as a guy tried to raise a sign; someone shouted "gun."

Can't be true. This was a "close call" !!!!!!!111
82  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Rushed Off Stage in NV - Update: False Alarm/Just Protester on: November 05, 2016, 09:01:28 pm
Glad that this was only a close call
In what way was this a "close call"?

Dems on social media disregarding or actually cheering/lamenting that it never came to fruition are just worthless scum.
Yeah, because Trump supporters never say things like that about Hillary. Roll Eyes
83  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Rushed Off Stage in NV - Update: False Alarm/Just Protester on: November 05, 2016, 08:56:37 pm
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Senior sources tell @ABC the threat escalated when someone shouted gun at Trump rally.  Source with direct knowledge says no weapon found.

Obviously not. There's just no way to get a gun past all that security.
84  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Rushed Off Stage in NV - Update: False Alarm/Just Protester on: November 05, 2016, 08:49:26 pm
How could someone sneak a gun into one of these rallies? What a colossal f***up by the Secret Service if true.
85  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: WSJ: National Enquirer Shielded Trump From Playboy Modelís Affair Allegation on: November 04, 2016, 09:39:59 pm
Is Rick Wilson going to say this was one of his two?
86  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: AP: Washington Democratic elector says he will not vote for Clinton on: November 04, 2016, 06:49:16 pm
He'll almost certainly vote Clinton if it's 270-268. Otherwise who cares.

Obviously the Electoral College should be abolished and this guy should be replaced if it's possible, but I don't think there's even a 0.1% chance this guy rips victory away from Hillary.
87  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Reaction if Clinton wins. on: November 04, 2016, 05:53:19 pm
Relieved more than anything else.
88  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: White supremacists mobilize to suppress minority vote on: November 03, 2016, 05:47:55 pm
I'll be on the lookout when I vote. I bet there won't be any at my precinct.
89  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What will be the November Surprise? on: November 03, 2016, 05:13:16 pm
According to @LizMair, 1 story will not be coming out (due to lack of $ to cover legal fees for violating NDAs).

That just can't be true. There are enough big donors to raise billions of dollars for legal fees if necessary.
90  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Professor Lichtmann predicts Presidential Race for 2016 on: November 03, 2016, 05:07:16 pm
If Hillary wins, he'll just change his interpretations some and say that the model worked.
91  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does McMuffin realistically have a chance (>1%) of becoming president? on: November 02, 2016, 10:50:36 am
Here's what it would take:

McMullin wins Utah, obviously.

No candidate gets to 270 Electoral votes, obviously.

Some major scandal comes out about Trump after the election but before the House convenes to vote. It would have to be extremely significant, enough so to make it seem likely that Trump would be impeached soon after taking office.

Even if all of that happened, the House GOP might vote Trump in and then immediately impeach him to make Pence President.

So this scenario probably requires the Democrats to have taken the Senate as well, thus they elect Kaine as Vice President, therefore the GOP has to elect McMullin President to avoid an impeached Trump being replaced by Kaine.

I would think that if it's 266-266-6 or something like that, the Democrats will have 7 electors in California vote for Sanders or some other Democrat to get McMullin out of the House ballot and a second Democrat onto it.

I chose California, because it should be one of the last states to cast its electoral votes, so they could pull the plug on the plan if some Republican electors crossed over to vote Hillary. Also, it would avoid spilling the beans on the plan in case Republicans don't anticipate it.


ETA: Yes, this is contradictory to my post from earlier in the thread. This would just be a fallback if they can't flip electors.
92  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: MAKING MISSISSIPPI GREAT AGAIN on: November 02, 2016, 09:27:07 am
Deplorable.
93  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does McMuffin realistically have a chance (>1%) of becoming president? on: November 02, 2016, 08:30:30 am
No. If nobody hits 270 on Election Night, a few electors will flip to Hillary and give it to her in December. It won't make it to the House.
94  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Would you let Donald Trump babysit your children? on: November 02, 2016, 07:41:15 am
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Why not? What's the worst she could do, send your kid a classified email?

Why would I want someone who supports abortion looking after my kids?

Wait, do you actually quiz your babysitters about abortion before you officially hire them? Who does that?
95  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: 28% of early voter Republicans have voted for Hillary in Florida on: November 01, 2016, 10:15:33 pm
So this has to be Cubans, right?
96  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / If Trump wins, will his supporters be the most insufferable sore winners ever? on: November 01, 2016, 02:31:03 pm
God, it would be unbearable.
97  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Students across America predict Hillary win on: November 01, 2016, 01:02:20 pm
Cool
98  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If Trump wins by just a few EVs, should Hillary try to flip electors? on: October 31, 2016, 05:15:06 pm
Second question:
What if Hillary wins the popular vote, and the electoral college is something along the lines of Trump 268, Hillary 264, McMullin 6? I think that's fundamentally different than trying to flip an election that Trump "won."

Third question:
What if Hillary wins the popular vote, and the electoral college is something along the lines of Hillary 268, Trump 264, McMullin 6? In that situation I actually give it better than 50-50 that the electors pick Hillary outright, even if she doesn't openly campaign for it.
99  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: LIVE: Donald Trump Rally in Grand Rapids, MI 10/31/16 1:00PM ET on: October 31, 2016, 01:47:12 pm
https://mobile.twitter.com/kevcirilli/status/793159362298675200

Proves that ObamaCare is swinging voters to Trump

Um?

With her pre-existing condition (and gender), she's almost certainly better off under ACA rules than pre-ACA rules
100  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Supporter chants Jew-S-A at the press pen on: October 30, 2016, 08:20:34 pm
One of Trump's opponents called half of his supporters deplorables.

Don't worry, you're in the half that isn't deplorable.
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