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76  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: November 15, 2014, 12:55:10 pm
Aren't you going to watch the Game of the Year, when outrageously disrespected Mississippi State justifies its well-deserved #1 ranking yet again by defeating the unimpressive, overrated Alabama?
77  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GOP makes gains with White Catholics in 2014 on: November 14, 2014, 12:29:45 am
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As frustrating as it is disappointing, IMO. White Catholics are ignoring the Pope's warnings against neoliberalism and voting GOP because they're supposed to be against the ACA, which is one of the most pro-life bills ever passed.

Yeah, except for the fact that it includes abortion. Apparently you forgot that the Stupak amendment failed.



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 Under OPM's final rule, no Federal funds, including administrative funds, will be used to cover abortions or administer plans that cover abortions. Unlike the health plans for which OPM contracts pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 8902, 8903 and 8903a, OPM does not administer the terms of the health benefits plans offered on an Exchange. Consequently, while plans with such coverage may be offered on an Exchange, OPM can and will take appropriate administrative steps to ensure that the cost of any such coverage purchased by a Member of Congress or a congressional staffer from a designed SHOP is accounted for and paid by the individual rather than from a government contribution, consistent with the general prohibition on Federal funds being used for this purpose.

http://www.opm.gov/retirement-services/publications-forms/benefits-administration-letters/2013/13-207.pdf

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The claim that the Obama administration has issued rules for "$1 abortions in ObamaCare" is ridiculous; the administration has simply set a floor for how much money per month of the premiums paid by those who have chosen plans that include abortion must be placed in a segregated account in order to make sure that thereís enough money available to pay for abortion services incurred by people enrolled in that plan.

The bigger charge -- that the Obama health care law "requires all persons enrolled in insurance plans that include elective abortion coverage to pay a separate premium from their own pockets to fund abortion" -- is also incorrect.

The provision in question only affects people who purchase insurance plans that cover abortion and who do so on the exchanges -- a much narrower group than the claim suggests. And people who make such purchases will be paying their private dollars into abortion coverage accounts voluntarily. Despite some puzzling wording, ultimately the law allows for full disclosure of its abortion rules at the most obvious time, when someone is signing up for coverage. On balance, we rate this claim False.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/mar/21/blog-posting/does-barack-obamas-health-care-bill-include-1-abor/

It still does fund abortion to whatever extent money is fungible: plans covering abortion must set up two separate accounts one paying for abortions and one for everything else with the stipulation that federal money cannot be put into the abortion account except in case of rape or incest. So instead the federal money can be put into the other account and private funds shifted to the abortion account as needed (unless the abortion account was more than the private funds, but that would never happen anyway). The net result being that while the federal funds are prohibited from going directly into the abortion account, the fungibility of money means that they are effectively still subsidizing abortion coverage. The federal government can recite whatever talking points it wants, the fact that the government is subsidizing abortion through the account for the other services in the plans remains.

The Stupak Amendment would have closed this loophole by requiring plans covering abortion to charge a rider fee to pay specifically for the abortion coverage. As Ben Kenobi notes, it failed.

You're correct, but that's how all insurance works. By this logic, unless you get your health insurance from a company that never, ever pays for an abortion for any reason whatsoever, you are paying for a fraction of every abortion the insurance company covers.

That's also why all these separate contraception accounts for "religious objectors" (AKA cheap Baptists who think they're sending Obama a message) make no sense. The objectors' money is still going into a single big pot, out of which birth control pills are paid for.
78  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Wicker to chair NRSC for 2016 on: November 13, 2014, 06:45:46 pm
That's a ... really weird choice.

79  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Best/Worst Ads of 2014 on: November 13, 2014, 12:53:23 am
Best is obviously that stupid castrating one, because it somehow turned a batsh**t "ZOMG AGENDA 21!!!!" loon into a U.S. Senator.
80  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obamacare Silver Plans prices falling, on average, 0.2% in 48 cities on: November 12, 2014, 06:58:53 pm
It's unfortunate that virtually every Republican politician in the country won't be held accountable for brazenly and outrageously lying out their asses about Obamacare.

Despite all evidence,  there are tens of millions of Republican voters who still think Obamacare is bad for America Sad
81  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will the GOP try to steal 2016 like they did 2000? on: November 11, 2014, 07:30:19 pm
People who believe 2000 (and 1960 for that matter) were stolen are almost as stupid, and even more annoying, than 911 truthers.

It is nearly indisputable that neither Katherine Harris nor the U.S. Supreme Court had any interest in counting all the votes, instead just wanting to ensure that Bush won. Whether that counts as "stealing" is debatable, since it's not indisputable that Gore would have won had the recounts completed, but no one can deny that Gore would have won Florida handily had tens of thousands of blacks not been "mistakenly" stricken from the rolls OR had Palm Beach County not used a confusing ballot.

Even if you disagree with the above statements, you still must realize that nearly all Democrats agree with them. Comparing that to 9/11 trutherism, a fringe theory that virtually no one believes, is over the top.
82  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Did a Flawed Computer Model Sabotage the Democrats? on: November 10, 2014, 08:19:54 pm
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/10/did-a-flawed-computer-model-sabotage-the-democrats.html

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The much-vaunted Democratic turnout machine didnít fail Tuesday. Volunteer shifts made record numbers of calls and door knocks across the country to turn out Democratic voters. In fact, according to NGP-VAN, the company that handles data for the Democratic allies, voter contacts were up 54 percent over 2010 and, in some states, even rivaled 2012 numbers.

The problem is that they might have been calling some of the wrong voters and knocking some of the wrong doors.

The Daily Beast has learned that in the crucial swing states of Iowa, North Carolina, and Colorado, the DSCC made a decision in September to put an increased emphasis on persuasion, talking undecided voters into supporting Democratic candidates rather than turning out its base voters. In other words, instead of going after the type of people who reliably vote Democrat but donít reliably show up on Election Day, they focused on voters who were somewhat more likely to vote but hadnít firmly made up their minds

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facepalm.
83  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Travis Childers vs. Chris McDaniel on: November 10, 2014, 08:16:32 pm
Depends if McDaniel blew it or not with a crazy comment or his not-very-secret affair.

Would have been a tough environment for Childers obviously, but McDaniel would have been a trainwreck (he already was a trainwreck without being the nominee).
84  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of "Too Many Cooks" on: November 08, 2014, 12:41:43 am
Pretty funny I guess, but way too long. Could've cut down to to 5-6 minutes and had the same number of laughs.
85  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Should we make voting mandatory? on: November 07, 2014, 09:05:31 pm
Note that it doesn't necessarily produce results beneficial to the left

That's a good thing. I'm not trying to tip any elections here. I just think it would be good for a country it actually took a majority to win.
86  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Should we make voting mandatory? on: November 07, 2014, 09:04:28 pm
I believe Australia actually does this, so it's not just some crazy crackpot idea.

There would never again be an issue with "turnout."

Absolutely not. I have a right to vote or not vote. My choice.

You could always turn in a blank ballot, or a "none of the above" option if we made that mandatory, but I think it would be preferable if everyone had to at least turn in a ballot.

Wouldn't it be more satisfying anyway if you were trying to make a statement by not voting to turn in a blank ballot? This way your "vote" would be included in the count and someone would see your statement.
87  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" Thread. on: November 07, 2014, 07:12:10 pm
Are Hamill/Ford/Fisher the stars of the movie, or will they just have bit appearances?

If they're the stars, the movie has a lot of potential.
88  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How Badly Will Hillary Get Spanked in the South? on: November 07, 2014, 07:09:50 pm
She won't do any worse than Obama did in 2012. Almost certainly better, in fact.
89  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Saira Blair -- 18 year old delegate-elect from West Virginia on: November 07, 2014, 07:08:30 pm
It's cool that her age group has a voice in government for once, but somehow I suspect she will not be looking out for teenagers when she casts her vote.

Does she have reasonable or horrible/Tea Party stances on issues like college tuition and obscene textbook prices? What about the undue harassment of teens and college students by cops? Anything about student loan debt forgiveness?
90  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Maximilien de Robespierre? on: November 07, 2014, 07:05:28 pm
Certainly a fun historical figure to read about.

HP obviously, but not really any worse than the Louises.
91  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Should we make voting mandatory? on: November 07, 2014, 07:02:51 pm
Perhaps, provided that ballots can be cast via mail or securely online.

Online would be the way to go if we can come up with a system to verify the person voting is the person they claim to be. Then we wouldn't need polling places with opening or closing times. People could just vote with their phones or computers from wherever they are, maybe in a 2-day window or something. People who don't have a computer or phone could have the choice of going to some kind of voting center or library, or they could just borrow a neighbor or coworker's phone for a second.
92  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The sudden surge in Ready For Hillary signatures on: November 07, 2014, 06:55:33 pm
I understand why some liberals aren't crazy about Hillary, and I agree with some legitimate criticisms of her.

However, lots of liberals go way over the top -- she won't be substantively different from Obama policywise, and she'll probably be less of a pushover and won't shy away from a fight.

More importantly, she's probably the only Democrat who can win in 2016. Winning the presidency with any Democrat is far more important than losing with a "true liberal" or whatever we're hoping for.
93  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Breaking: SCOTUS to consider ACA subsidies on: November 07, 2014, 06:40:00 pm
I've mentioned my mother-in-law a couple of times here. She wasn't able to purchase insurance until 2014 due to her pre-existing condition (she's a cancer survivor). It was either unavailable to her or way too expensive.

But thanks to Obamacare, a f***ing godsend to her, she was finally able to purchase insurance on the Mississippi Exchange at around $60 per month, a price she can afford. Now you're telling me that Republicans want to take that subsidy away from her (which is worth around $6,000 per year) and the millions like her? That's just plain evil.

So what, would she have to pay that $6,000 back if the Supreme Court rules against her? Where's she supposed to come up with that money? The government promised her that subsidy and now the Republicans are going to go back on their word? Sure, some of the saner Republicans might vote to "forgive" the 2014 subsidies since they're already out there (although we all know the saner ones don't run the party, so I doubt it), but what's she supposed to do in 2015? Just go back to being uninsured?

F*** every single person who supports this. It's not her fault that Mississippi had it's own state-based Exchange website up and running, only to have our governor (who claims to literally converse with Jesus), after previously supporting the state Exchange until that point, pull the plug on it just to stick it to Obama.
94  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: If a Supreme Court justice retires or dies in the next two yearsÖ.. on: November 07, 2014, 02:03:27 pm
It really doesn't matter who Obama picks because republicans will declare the nominee to be a Marxist regardless.  Therefore he should only consider far-left judges,  especially after he's put two center-left judges on there already.
95  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Should we make voting mandatory? on: November 07, 2014, 08:15:05 am
I believe Australia actually does this, so it's not just some crazy crackpot idea.

There would never again be an issue with "turnout."
96  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: #HillarysLosers on: November 06, 2014, 07:22:21 pm


97  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Would Brady Hoke win the state of MI if he was the dem nominee in 2016? on: November 06, 2014, 07:17:59 pm
Should've never gotten rid of RichRod, but oh well.


Oh, and 52-14. I don't care that that was 4 years ago.
98  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Rating for Louisiana Runoff on: November 06, 2014, 07:12:06 pm
Likely R. Runoffs are weird, so there's always some hope. Of course if Democrats aren't seriously contesting it, we might move it to safe by Election Day.
99  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Louisiana, Mississippi, and Kentucky on: November 06, 2014, 08:20:40 am
All incumbents (including Hood) reelected in Mississippi with little fanfare.

Democrats have a shot to take over the Mississippi House, but will probably fall short. Senate will stay pretty close to 32-20 R.

Probably a very boring election.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Hood losing. Southern Democrats are being hunted down like rabid dogs. RIP Hood.

Hood's won 60-40 in Republican landslide years before ('07, '11). It's certainly not impossible or implausible that Republicans could finally take him out this year, but I wouldn't bet on it. They never can find a good or even reasonably decent candidate.
100  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Louisiana, Mississippi, and Kentucky on: November 05, 2014, 10:22:42 pm
All incumbents (including Hood) reelected in Mississippi with little fanfare.

Democrats have a shot to take over the Mississippi House, but will probably fall short. Senate will stay pretty close to 32-20 R.

Probably a very boring election.
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