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76  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Pope Francis: Church Should Apologize For Discriminating Against Gays on: June 26, 2016, 06:38:12 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pope-francis-church-gays-apology_us_57704d17e4b0dbb1bbbaeb24

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ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE (Reuters) - Pope Francis said on Sunday that Christians and the Roman Catholic Church should seek forgiveness from homosexuals for the way they had treated them.

Speaking to reporters aboard the plane taking him back to Rome from Armenia, he also said the Church should ask forgiveness for the way it has treated women, for turning a blind eye to child labor and for “blessing so many weapons” in the past.

In the hour-long freewheeling conversation that has become a trademark of his international travels, Francis was asked if he agreed with recent comments by a German Roman Catholic cardinal that the Church should apologize to gays.

Francis looked sad when the reporter asked if an apology was made more urgent by the killing of 49 people at a gay club in Orlando, Florida this month.

FF.
77  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sanders supporters moving to Clinton much faster than Clinton's did to Obama on: June 26, 2016, 04:00:41 pm
Good, good, but we need to also consider the % supporting third party or "undecided" before we can conclude anything.
78  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Brexit's effect on US General Election on: June 23, 2016, 12:30:47 pm
Surprised the "Remain" side hasn't made a big point of this. "Leaving = Trump wins" would be a convincing argument to lots of people on the fence.
79  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Top Evangelical (World Evangelical Alliance): Trump "un-Christian", endorses Hil on: June 21, 2016, 11:33:47 pm
She has a Wikipedia page, but not a very detailed one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Fikes

Looks like she's big into climate/environmental issues, so endorsing a Democrat doesn't really seem that far-fetched.
80  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What is your favorite board game? on: June 19, 2016, 02:13:28 pm
Diplomacy, although I've only played a couple of times in real life because I just don't know 6 other people who would play and actually try to win.
81  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Give a jfern style response on the preveding topic on: June 18, 2016, 10:33:34 pm
FF as no two countries that sell Big Macs have ever gone to war with each other, although that would probably change if $hillary KKKunton becomes president.

Steph Curry throwing his mouthpiece into the crowd
82  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who wins? on: June 18, 2016, 05:57:46 pm
Hillary (duh)
83  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Trump: No guns for people on the terrorist watch list on: June 15, 2016, 09:54:41 am
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/743078235408195584

"I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns."

That puts him really at odds with his party and his base. But I'll give credit where credit's due. Good move, Trump.
84  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sanders and Clinton have been meeting for over an hour on: June 14, 2016, 09:29:24 pm
Hopefully she's going Frank (or Claire) Underwood on him.
85  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Should Republican delegates go nuclear and dump Trump at the convention? on: June 14, 2016, 09:20:48 pm
At this point, probably. They're not going to win either way, and while dumping Trump would probably make their 2016 losses a little worse (potentially a lot worse downballot), they'd be better off in the long run dumping all of the Trumpistas and rebuilding.
86  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: In this thread, we post r/S4P reactions to tonight's news on: June 14, 2016, 09:18:12 pm
Yes. "Low information voters" is a common (at least in the Deep South) euphemism that Republicans use to mean blacks. Shame on any "liberal" who plays that game.
87  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Romney allies working on indy ballot acess on: June 14, 2016, 09:15:44 pm
TBH, this is what Romney should do:

Romney should fight for ballot access in Utah and only Utah. He should run a one-state campaign. If the election is close, Romney winning Utah's 6 electoral votes could make sure that no candidate gets over 270 EV's. If Romney had ballot access in all 50 states, Hillary would win in a landslide due to vote splitting. There's no way Romney would throw the election to the House if he had ballot access in all 50 states.

If Romney only had ballot access in Utah, the map could possibly look like this:

Donald Trump: 267 EV's
Hillary Clinton: 265 EV's
Mitt Romney: 6 EV's

No one gets over 270 EV's. Romney throws the election to the House and wins.

Or.... Hillary has 7 of her electors vote Bernie (or someone way more toxic), so Romney's not on the ballot in the House anymore and Hillary is the "centrist" of her, Trump, and Bernie.

88  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Avatar-less Posters on: June 12, 2016, 11:42:50 pm
HP, but what choice do I have?
89  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump calls on Obama to resign on: June 12, 2016, 04:11:37 pm
Seriously, this is a moment to come together and Trump does this. F-ck him to hell and back. He speaks for a lot of people, too.
Come together to ban guns and not call a radical Islamic Terrorist a radical Islamic Terrorist? I am confused.

Ultimately, Trump is right. Denying that a terrorist that called 911 to pledge his allegiance to ISIS before killing 50 innocent people because of his hatred of gays is nothing other than a radical Islamic Terrorist is irresponsible.

I don't think ANY blue avatar can play the "irresponsible" card right now after their terror watch list stand has so dramatically blown up in their face...
90  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does the recent gun massacre of 50+ LGBT people in Orlando, Florida... on: June 12, 2016, 03:54:43 pm
CNN reporting that the guns used in the attack were both purchased in the last few days before the attacks. Hillary will make this about gun control, Trump about Islamic terrorism. Whichever one resonates is anyone guess, but I hope for the good of this country its gun control.

So he bought the guns legally in the last few days, months after Democrats and Hillary made a big deal about "terror watch list = no guns," only to have Republicans say no?
91  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does the recent gun massacre of 50+ LGBT people in Orlando, Florida... on: June 12, 2016, 12:02:47 pm
The shooter was on an FBI watch list. In December, the GOP blocked an effort to prohibit gun sales to people on the watch list.

Did he buy his gun legally since then?
92  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mass shooting at LGBT nightclub in Orlando. on: June 12, 2016, 11:42:08 am
Also deeply sad is that club goers are wanting to donate blood for their friends. But can't.

I wonder if this could be the impetus to change that nonsensical policy.

What a "rationale" behind this anyway?

Aids being thought of as a gay man's disease.

Please don't tell me it's an official policy in this case.

Yeah, national law I believe. They've always asked if I've ever had sex with a man before they let me give blood.
93  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does the recent gun massacre of 50+ LGBT people in Orlando, Florida... on: June 12, 2016, 11:36:42 am
We need more information about the shooter and his motives. 

Florida Sen. Bill Nelson later said that information from intelligence sources indicated there "appears to be a link to Islamic radicalism ... some kind of connection to ISIS."

(from abcnews.com)

If it turns out he was acting on orders from ISIS, then yes it helps Trump. But the LGBT angle still limits how much it helps.
94  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mass shooting at LGBT nightclub in Orlando. on: June 12, 2016, 11:24:31 am
Also deeply sad is that club goers are wanting to donate blood for their friends. But can't.

I wonder if this could be the impetus to change that nonsensical policy.
95  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Opinion of Dr. Jill Stein? on: June 12, 2016, 11:11:20 am
I wish we could establish once and for all whether or not she is anti-vaccine and start infracting people who say otherwise. The back-and-forth is getting tedious.
96  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does the recent gun massacre of 50+ LGBT people in Orlando, Florida... on: June 12, 2016, 11:05:36 am
We're going to be talking about this shooting for decades as a major tipping point in the final stages of the fight for LGBT equality. It's just not going to resonate with Trump's base.

If this were a foreign ISIS-affiliated Muslim massacring "normal" (from the perspective of Republicans) people, sure. But an American committing a hate crime on gays is a different story.
97  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does the recent gun massacre of 50+ LGBT people in Orlando, Florida... on: June 12, 2016, 10:54:15 am
If he'd killed 50 straights it would help Trump.
98  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democrats, would you have voted for a Democrat version of Trump? on: June 12, 2016, 10:52:01 am
No idea, but candidates who want to get rid of Obamacare, whether from the Right or the Left, are pretty much non-negotiable non-starters for me.
99  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Meg Whitman on: June 11, 2016, 04:53:22 pm
No. She has no chance. Why should she waste time and money?

To ensure a Hillary landslide without having to endorse her?
100  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Special Nod to Hillary on: June 11, 2016, 01:46:19 pm

If Hillary gets elected President you can be sure that she is going to give a lot of focus to women's issues. Just sayin' be prepared. Already there is an article on her speech to Planned Parenthood:

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Clinton praised the organization's work on providing birth control and breast-cancer screenings. And she called for greater federal funding for Planned Parenthood, something Republicans have tried to cut. Clinton also pledged to strengthen Obamacare — another controversial subject for conservatives — and called for increased funding for long-term birth control.

Clinton told the crowd that, as president, she would "always have your back." Calling women's access to reproductive health services "under attack," she made it very clear who she believes is perpetuating those attacks: Donald Trump and other Republicans.

http://www.npr.org/2016/06/10/481581448/clinton-trump-kick-off-general-election-with-very-different-pitches-to-their-bas

Speaking as a female who has long felt left out of the political system, I'd be so glad to have Hillary as President. It would be a breath of fresh air to have a President who understand women's issues as well as she does.

And that's just one thing I like about her among many areas.

So we'll get more restrictions on late term abortions?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/03/hillary-clinton-late-term-abortions

Hopefully. Third trimester abortions should be (and are, despite what Republicans believe) extremely rare.
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