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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What would be the scandal that ends the above poster's political career? on: October 23, 2014, 06:04:18 pm
It is found out that he's engaging in a sexual affair with a very hot big tittied brunette woman.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of posters who use ellipsis on: October 23, 2014, 05:58:49 pm
Horrible people.

Using too many ellipsis makes one look like a very bad person and should be a serious criteria of how someone is judged on the forum. . . . . . . . oh. . . wait.
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Office of Mideast Governor TJ on: October 23, 2014, 05:38:39 pm
I am vetoing the Mideast Police Canine Reform Act because I believe it would hurt our ability to police drug offenses:

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The Mideast Police Canine Reform Act

1. Mideast Regional Police departments are prohibited from using canines for narcotic-detection purposes.
2. Narcotics-detection dogs are to either be adopted by police officers in their respective departments, or given to municipal pet shelters.
3. This legislation shall go into effect on January 1st, 2016.

I will also have to veto the Return to Normalcy Act because I will not put my name on a bill repealing seat belt laws:

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Return to Normalcy Act

1. The Car Safety Act is repealed in its entirety.

Governor,

YOU WILL FAIL.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: MA: Return to Normalcy Act (Passed) on: October 23, 2014, 05:33:27 pm
I intend to override TJ's veto.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: MA: The Mideast Police Canine Reform Act (Passed) on: October 23, 2014, 05:32:33 pm
I intend to override the Governor's veto.
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: I challenge Senator Cassius to a duel! on: October 23, 2014, 05:31:13 pm
I volunteer to be Mr. Mann's second if he so desires.

It shall be my honor!

Herr Senator,

The choice of weapons will be Strong Points or Long Words.  What do you prefer!?

I would also recommend that you pray to your precious mainstream non-offensive monotheistic god while you still have time.



EDIT: Just remembers Cassius is Catholic, lol.
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: MA: The Mideast Public Nudity Bill (Debating) on: October 23, 2014, 05:27:42 pm
Aye
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Mideast Assembly Thread on: October 23, 2014, 05:25:22 pm
The Speaker appears to be on vacation.
I am announcing that I am taking over as Speaker with immediate effect.

lol

Things seem to be pretty slow here, so I've been taking my time, but if you'd like more votes on the other bills we have then I can start them up.

I am Speaker! I shall be the judge!

Shut up faggot.
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: MA: The Mideast Abolition of Vice Taxes Bill (Debating) on: October 23, 2014, 05:24:16 pm
Aye
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Democratic-Republican Party Convention, October 2014 on: October 23, 2014, 05:23:16 pm
Democratic Republicanism has failed! The Mideast DR Majority is a failure! Every bill has failed! The Speaker has failed! You have failed!
dats coo

Only the first eight, dear Cocabre.

We still got plenty of time, hehe.
11  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: If you weren't wearing X, bad thing Y wouldn't have happened to you on: October 23, 2014, 06:41:09 am
I'm a bit skeptical about the law, but I don't think you can seriously say that it's in any way comparable with the victim blaming of rape victims.


Yes.

While I don't agree with it's logic it is a bit of a stretch.  Rape apologism usually involves more than just "if she wasn't wearing that tiny skirt!"
12  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Best President, of these three on: October 22, 2014, 07:04:54 am
Well, Truman was a racist cockpunt, so that really only leaves JFK in the running.

Besides some quote from when he was like 20 years old or some sh*t living in the first couple of decades of the 20th century in freakin Missouri, what relevant citations do you have?

I'm not going to debate that the man was racist (let's be real honest here, most people who grew up before the 1930s probably held deeply racist views by today's standards), but what exactly qualifies him as a "racist cockpunt", which implies a degree bit more racist than "racist"?

Also relevant: http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Harry_Truman_civil_rights.htm

It is quite clear he evolved on the issue.
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE3: Because You've Earned It Act (Debating) on: October 21, 2014, 11:20:12 pm
The attacks on this are bizarre and insulting to Northeast voters because they assume that order on a ballot in this game would affect the election's outcome, which is blatantly a joke... I don't think it's anything but scraping at the bottom of the barrel to try to score political points.

That said, to stop the faux outrage, why don't we set an implementation date for this after the October election? This obviously is nothing more than a symbolic move, but I hope it'd put an end to the B.S. complaints about this bill.

With all of that said, why even push for this bill?  If the order really doesn't matter?

It'll matter for a select few (i.e.: the chronically competitive such as myself), in a completely different way than is being insinuated here by the opposition.

"In a completely different way".

How?
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE3: Because You've Earned It Act (Debating) on: October 21, 2014, 09:56:47 pm
The attacks on this are bizarre and insulting to Northeast voters because they assume that order on a ballot in this game would affect the election's outcome, which is blatantly a joke... I don't think it's anything but scraping at the bottom of the barrel to try to score political points.

That said, to stop the faux outrage, why don't we set an implementation date for this after the October election? This obviously is nothing more than a symbolic move, but I hope it'd put an end to the B.S. complaints about this bill.

With all of that said, why even push for this bill?  If the order really doesn't matter?
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Would you vote for a Le Pen supporter? on: October 21, 2014, 07:29:49 pm

Not exactly an endorsement of fascists, but still pretty damning:

Wow. I can't believe someone as smart as you is actually falling for the FN's blatantly hypocritical posturing. This trick is as old as the hills, for God's sake. Reactionaries who don't give a sh*t about the "common man" disguise themselves as populists because that's the only way they can ever gain any political influence. That's the exact same tactics the clericalo-fascist French far-right of the 1930s used. Except that if you actually look at the FN's economic program, there is absolutely nothing about strengthening the Welfare State, or reviving the health and education systems, or to improve the economic conditions of working families. Actually, they have absolutely no idea what to do in that regard. Their only plan to create jobs consists in kicking immigrants out (because yeah, it's well know DEY R TAKING R JOBZ). And yeah sure, they want to get rid of EU - if you actually think that's a good idea, I'm glad you can't vote in a European country.

Now, I know that the blatant fakeness of the FN's populism might be a bit harder to spot for foreigners who only know French politics from the outside. But since you are actually lecturing me about what the FN really is, forgive me if I roll my eyes.

I'm not trying to "lecture" anyone, yes, I understand the history of much of the European far-right, and nothing in that post responding to you meant to sugar coat anything about Front National. And yes, I can hardly wait for the deluge of holier than thou Hashemite posts which I've inevitably made myself a huge blinking red target for. But all I meant to suggest there is that Hollande is yet another self defeating soft-center-leftist in a long line of self defeating soft-center-leftists around the world, and were I some sort of hypothetical french voter that I quite clearly am not, there is a part of me that would be quite tempted to do the political equivalent of prank-pulling the fire alarm and vote for Le Pen against Hollande in the hope that something might come out of it, in the understanding that she would probably have her hands tied for the most part in terms of domestic policy anyway.
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Mideast Senate Candidates Forum/Debate on: October 21, 2014, 07:22:07 pm
Candidates,

Say one day while having breakfast your hypothetical brother and sister come downstairs and tell the family they are in love and they are moving to the Northeast to get married.  How would that impact your view of incest legalization?
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Mideast Senate Candidates Forum/Debate on: October 21, 2014, 07:15:20 pm
To Windjammer,

I mean like a tax on the unmodified value of land.

The purpose of it would be limit wealth inequality by putting punitive taxes on those who own the most expensive land.  It would be a way of battling both social injustice as well as prevent excessive abuse of the environment by requiring that people pay for the land they use.
18  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Worst President of these three (19th-century Republicans) on: October 21, 2014, 07:03:45 pm
Voted for Hayes.

McKinley was a pretty horrible president, but Hayes set the stage for the right wing takeover of the GOP by ending Reconstruction, busting unions, and being a pro-gold hack.  The effect that surrendering the South to the Democratic Parties that existed then was an incredible mistake that arguably effected virtually every single vote Congress took from 1877 onwards.

Arguably, you could blame Hayes for why goldbug warmongers like McKinley eventually became the standard in the GOP rather than the exceptions.

Remember when you use to actually examine figures in history rather than make them into absurd stereotypes?

In any case, voted Hayes.

That doesn't prevent me from forming opinions about said historical figures.

For the record, I always thought McKinley was a warmonger and a goldbug.  He was actually a pretty decent Republican on labor issues and eventually evolved on trade issues, but other than that he was pretty horrible.

None of this to deny Grant's own pretty pro-gold stances and protectionist views, either.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: how much is your cable package a month? on: October 21, 2014, 06:26:10 pm
Around $80 for a "flex plan" that includes a modem rental as well as access to HBO and Starz channels.
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Better President, of these two (Bill Clinton vs. Barack Obama) on: October 21, 2014, 06:22:18 pm
lol@not a single Republican voting for Obama.

Obviously Obama.


Yes.

Although it is not universally true for all polls, one should use the poll results of Republicans to conclude who is the better president.  At least if you subscribe to a liberal viewpoint.
21  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Republican Party (1854-1874) on: October 21, 2014, 06:20:44 pm
I strongly believe that the Civil War was justified because of its role in ending slavery, but it is credible to argue that Northern and Republican motives for the war were often selfish and political, rather than simply based on the noble mission of freeing the slaves.  

As for the South, however, it's pretty clear that they seceded to keep black people in slavery.  While Northern motives may not have been completely moral, Southern motives were pretty much entirely based on keeping their way of life based on slavery and keeping blacks "in their place".  The war was ultimately a great thing for freeing the slaves, even if ending slavery wasn't the North's prime goal.

People who oppose the Civil War today are not automatically racist, but their interpretation of history is wrong, if they don't think the South seceded because of slavery.

For the record, this is the sane position.
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Worst President of these three (19th-century Republicans) on: October 21, 2014, 05:52:59 pm
Voted for Hayes.

McKinley was a pretty horrible president, but Hayes set the stage for the right wing takeover of the GOP by ending Reconstruction, busting unions, and being a pro-gold hack.  The effect that surrendering the South to the Democratic Parties that existed then was an incredible mistake that arguably effected virtually every single vote Congress took from 1877 onwards.

Arguably, you could blame Hayes for why goldbug warmongers like McKinley eventually became the standard in the GOP rather than the exceptions.
23  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Better President, of these two (Bill Clinton vs. Barack Obama) on: October 21, 2014, 05:40:37 pm
Obama has done less damage.
24  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Republican Party (1854-1874) on: October 21, 2014, 11:43:23 am
I must say that I strongly disagree with attempts to paint Deus or other libertarian posters are anti-black or racists just because of their anti-war views.  It might be an unpopular position to hold, but if you are a devout enough pacifist or anti-war person you can be against the Civil War without being racist.  I strongly disagree with my good friend from New York, but I do not believe that his bias is the cause of a negative opinion about blacks.

Do I believe that a large number of people who thought the Civil War was an unjust war are actually racists?  Yes I do.  Do I believe that holds true for Deus or other forum libertarians?

Not enough evidence to convict.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: I'm freakin pissed right now on: October 21, 2014, 11:21:44 am
Back.

I think I overreacted lol.  Rereading my boss's email I think it was a very general comment on what happens when we pay the wrong vendor, regardless of whose fault it is.

God, I feel like an idiot.

This happened over email!?

Good call on taking some time to cool off. Emails are notorious for being misunderstood because of the lack of tone and emotion. You read them as you want to read them. Given the description, I was picturing that your boss actually walked up to you and yelled at you and refused to hear your side of the issue!

My bad, lol.

Sorry everybody.
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