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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: 2014 Selfie Creepfest/Post a picture of yourself thread on: Today at 12:35:12 am
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1820 Presidential Election on: July 30, 2014, 07:28:24 am
Well, it would depend on their views on suffrage.  If I lived back then it would probably be the most pressing issue to me personally, more so than whether someone prefers chattel slavery to wage slavery.  Like I commented before, John Q. (like his overrated father before him), as much as everyone likes to wank over his not owning any slaves, supported a system that was inherently pro-rich Anglo Protestant supremacy.  If he had ran in the 1840s when he was actively and adamantly abolitionist and had adopted a more populist stance on other issues, then yeah maybe I could see myself voting for him.  However, in the 1820s his defining ideology and stance was pro-rich nativist bastards, something I am not in favor of.  So yes, once more screw the Adams cult that exists on here.  Now, I don't know that much about James Monroe's views on the matter (though, given his reputation as the Ultra Moderate, probably not good enough) though I do think his presidency was kind of fake and gay and that the 1820 Missouri Compromise kind of sucked.

I guess I'm voting Abstain on this one.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Explain the following on: July 29, 2014, 07:01:14 am
ITT some people don't understand the hardship many have just trying to get jobs in the first place.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of VP Windjammer (Statement) on: July 28, 2014, 08:46:10 pm
I thank the VP in his support for making Atlasia a worse place for all.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The People's Seat: Matt from VT for Senate on: July 28, 2014, 01:11:01 am
ITT your campaign sounds fake and gay and offers too many good ideas and wants to help people.

Not endorsed.

Also, why do you care about offering real solutions?  What's wrong with fake solutions?  Are they not good enough for you?
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Bad Party: Reinvigorating Atlasia with Bad Ideas! on: July 28, 2014, 01:05:29 am
Are you serious about the legalizing arson bit, or was that a joke?

Also, what specific cancers are you interested in creating?

Well, I'm not sure about arson.  I'm not a fan of hot weather, but I can understand the civil liberties issues that would pop up if I denied them the same rights as rapists, murderers, and thieves.

As for cancers, I'd like to create them all.
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Bad Party: Reinvigorating Atlasia with Bad Ideas! on: July 28, 2014, 01:00:12 am
Also, screw you I'm running for At-Large Senate:

Because really, I hate this country and think it deserves the very worst representation possible.

As your At-Large Senator, here are the things I promise to do if elected:

1. Do nothing.
2. Support every bad idea that comes across my desk (unless it conflicts with choice 1).
3. Use government funds for my cocaine and hooker habit.
4. Support global thermonuclear war.
5. Support funding for the creation of cancer.
6. Support for governmental studies to find out the best ways to increase poverty.
7. Legalize murder, theft, arson, and rape.
8. Replace water with Jameson Whiskey.
9. Support voting rights only for people who are blind and deaf.
10. Replace the National Anthem with Happy (fuck you Dallasfag)
11. Provide free handguns to every public school kid in the country.
12. Install free heroin needles in every public restroom facility in the country.

More to come.
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / The Bad Party: Reinvigorating Atlasia with Bad Ideas! on: July 28, 2014, 12:45:43 am
Hello there!

You maybe wondering why I, Mechaman, have endeavored to do yet another random third party bid!  Honestly, I'm doing this for the same reason why I am still up at 12:31 AM on a Monday: It's a bad idea.

Likewise, as we consider the natural tendency of humanity to make bad decisions, we should re-examine how we approach political problem solving.  Throughout the recent centuries humanity has strived towards a never ending stream of progress with the concept of making things better or advancing so-called "good ideas".  The thought here is that politics, no matter the ideology, should be committed to making the world a better, safer, cleaner, smarter place to live.

Yeah, screw that.  I mean really how stupid.  Next thing you know these morons will ask you to take time out of your day and vote!

Sorry, that was pretty biased of me.  I usually strive to approach things from a committed NPOV.  Unfortunately, advocates of "good ideas" are usually fake and gay.  So it's hard to take them seriously.  Thank you Hitler.

Of course, the problem we're running into is that "good policies" usually take too much effort.  To quote Spock from Wrath of Khan: "As a matter of cosmic history it is much easier to destroy something than it is to create it."  With that principle in mind, the realization that heaping ruin, sowing sorrow, and encouraging malaise take a fraction of the effort but yield quicker results, I bring you this revolutionary new party.  For far too long the market of bad ideas has been tossed aside, as have the people who demand bad ideas enacted by their government.

I intend to be their voice and their Savior.

As a lifelong opponent of getting more than 35% of the vote in any election, I believe that I am the best man suited for the enviable task of creating a thoroughly incompetently ran, extremely disorganized, and remarkably inefficient political organization that employs the very worst talents of the very worst people in this country to deliver a political party platform that pleases none, offends everybody, and leaves the nation far worse off than it was before.

My friends, welcome to the Bad Party!
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: July 28, 2014, 12:25:22 am
Mechaman
The Bad Party
Mozambique, Indiana
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Candidate Declaration Thread on: July 28, 2014, 12:23:51 am
I'll be running in the At-Large Senate race as the candidate of the Bad Party.
11  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: Westman, Part II: The Rising on: July 27, 2014, 07:44:36 pm
Forty Minutes Later
Some Bar in DC:


Westman is seated in a booth opposite the elder Brisco, who is gazing greedily into a glass of whiskey and coke.
Westman decides to speak.
Westman: So. . . . . did Helen ever speak of-
Brisco: Yes, she did.  Honestly, I thought that given her personal connection to you it would help with my personal appeal more.  I guessed wrongly.
Westman: Sorry man, there are many Briscos in Montana.
Brisco: Yes, but did she not mention that I'm richer than cowsh*t?
Westman laughs.
Westman: Well, actually yes she did.  I just thought that there were a bunch of you rich f***s who lived in the state now.  I mean, how do you tell Rockefellers apart?
Brisco nods.
Brisco: Fair enough I guess.  She speaks highly of you, you know?
Westman felt a rush of relief.  So I guess that she has kept our few. . . . episodes to herself.
Westman: Oh really?  She doesn't talk about how I'm a drug addicted hippie or nothin?
Brisco: No, she just mentioned that you would be interested in advancing and alternative energy solution and that your views on the land issue match up with mine.
Westman looked intrigued.
Brisco: I know, I'm a Montana Republican.  How can I endorse such radical nonsense?  In my defense though, it isn't exactly like there are strict guidelines to how left and right wingers should identify in this country.  I mean hell, we have that George Norris guy in Nebraska-
Westman: Yeah, that guy died a long ass time ago.  I think it's a little more clear now days, Des.  Though I guess in this state, with the pro-mine fetish of the Democrats, you don't really need an argument for your partisan ID.
Brisco: I'm surprised you haven't heard of me, Westman.
Westman: Probably have.  But I know thousands of people and have read up on them.  It's hard to keep random mentions to the side.  Though I can say that this first meeting is better than I expected.
Brisco: Oh really?  How'd you expect the first meeting to go?
The answer was obvious, but Westman didn't want to speak aloud.  He had imagined that this man would have come to his office demanding that he stay the hell out of Helen and Daniel's marriage.  That's what any sane parent would do.
Westman: I don't know.  I guess Helen mentioned that she came from a rich Republican family and I made stereotypes and sh*-
Brisco:-you didn't expect a pro-leaguer, did you?
Westman laughs.
Brisco: You want to know why I'm a Republican?  Sam Ford is why.
Westman chuckled.
Westman: The last Republican Governor?  Ha!  Of course he would be.
Brisco: Sam was a fascinating man.  A true freedom fighter who put his state first over politics.  He put state infrastructure high on his priority list, while not straying too far away from the bedrock principles of fiscal responsibility.  Further, your party's record on Civil Rights is not the most promising.  Word has it that more than one northern Democrat was dragged kicking and screaming into voting for the CRA.  Meanwhile, the GOP, as bad as it's economics were becoming, voted unanimously for it.
OH great, not this sh*t again.
Westman: Well Desmond!  YOu really got me there!  Yes we hated black people!  But I suggest that before you get on your might high horse that you examine who ultimately supported the damned starvation masters more.  As well, I suggest that you take a good long hard look at your own civilizations history before throwing out the bigotry card.  Your people killed and slaughtered countless millions and have waged a parasitic war against all culture not their own that continues to this day.  Don't you lecture us because we hanged a few niggers a hundred bleedin years ago.
Brisco: My good man, I am very regretful of the crimes that the British Empire has caused to many.  Let me just say that while many of my fellow Englishmen were going raw raw raw nationalism that I actively supported the Republican movement with all of my heart.  I've still got the scent of my beloved Niamh on my jackets and in my cigar pipe!  Don't you lecture me about bigotry!
Westman: Sure thing, just don't bring up the Civil Rights bullsh*t.  That is a cheap political ploy and you know it.
Brisco puts his hands up in surrender.
Brisco: Okay fine, whatever.  For what it's worth, you could be a lot worse.  You could be that son of a bitch that my daughter is married to!
Westman: Thank you!  I mean, what is so horrible about Daniel?  He seems like such a sweeeeeeell guy!
Brisco is grinning ear to ear.
Brisco: You are a very funny guy you know?  You know what, hell. . . . why don't you just f*** her already?
The air suddenly stopped.
Westman: What!?
Brisco: You heard me.  F*** my daughter Westman.  That trite bastard deserves it to happen to him.  And frankly, she probably wants it to happen to, the way she talks about you.
Westman couldn't believe the turn in this conversation.  It was like the Heavens were aligning to his favor tonight.
Westman starts roaring with laughter.
Westman: Man you got to be f***ing kidding me.  I mean seriously!
Brisco: That wanker's parents, the snob bastards they are, pressured the bleedin kids into something neither of them wanted.  Just so that bastard could get hold of me money!  She hardly mentions him nowadays over the phone.  But why should she?  He's like a tenth grader and an incompetent to boot!  He's just so weak and unmanly and devoid of all the pleasant qualities of a man.  I'm serious, get a redeye home tonight and just go into her like a rabbit in heat.
Westman puts down his glass.
Westman: Look mate, I sympathize with you.  I really do.  Daniel Weathers seems like a real useless c*nt.  He does.  However man, did I mention that I'm in a loving relationship right now?  I mean yeah, Cal is a very nice and sweet young woman who is very permissive of having multiple sex partners, but I love her man.  If I was with your daughter, it'd have to be real.  I'd have to give her everything.  I don't want to give her second hand offerings.  I want her to have the best.  I want her to have all of Scott Westman, not just some of him.
Brisco: You're a good man Scott Westman.  I'd prefer that you not mention any of this to the inlaws.
Westman: Oh those motherf***ers?  Hell no!  I can't stand them!
Brisco laughs.
Brisco: Oh so you met them?
Westman: Unfortunately yes.

Earlier that year
A political function:


Westman is sitting down at a table with a couple in their early fifties who are holding wine glasses.  The man, with salt and pepper hair and effeminate glasses, speaks up.
Chester A. Weathers: You know, the stock market has some real viable options as of late.  Say, have you thought about getting some new suits?
Westman: F*** off.
Virginia W. Weathers: What crude animalistic speech!  Have you thought about getting a haircut?
Westman: Have you thought about giving my gooch a nice licking?  Proctologists insist that it's quite stimulating.
Chester: Disgusting manners!  Unbelievable.  I don't know what she sees in you!  We're out of here!
The Weathers leave in a huff.
Westman lights a cigar as they leave and then slips his hand up the dress of his party guest.

Back to the present:

Westman:
Yes I agree, they are wankers.  So, what is your advice on the race tracks in Billings?
Brisco: Fifty on Lightspeed and Twenty on Newfoot.
Westman puts his hand on his shoulder.
Westman: My man!
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Explain the following on: July 27, 2014, 06:54:55 pm
Why is income broken down this way?




I don't know, you tell me.  Why do White People and Asians make more than brownies and blacks?
13  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Poll: Capitalism dying? on: July 27, 2014, 06:49:23 pm
Capitalism is fake and gay.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Good Post Gallery II on: July 27, 2014, 06:47:17 pm
Some things to lay out first:

A.) Hitler was never going to "conquer the world". That's just silly. A best-case-scenario for Germany in WWII involves Germany taking Russia up to the Astrakhan-to-Arkhangelsk line and at best Italian control over Egypt and the Near East. The idea was for Germany to become a pan-European superpower capable of competing with America in engaging in a final naval war with them "sometime in the 1980's" (as per Hitler's Second Book).

For one thing, I never used the word conquer. I said "wanted" and "dominate". Second of all, do you really thing Adolf Hitler would pass up the opportunity to take it, if it presented itself? The man always went beyond his stated desires at nearly every stage, so I don't think Hitler's own self stated limits hold much weight considering, it is you know HITLER we are discussing.

That gets into whole another realm of Hitler's attachment to reality. I merely stated he wanted the world, and once again nothing in his history indicates that his own material limits ever presented an obstacle in his mind. Otherwise he never would have attacked the Soviet Union and/or the US.

B.) It it borderline impossible for Germany to invade the UK directly. Much more likely some kind of peace treaty after the defeat of the USSR and fall of Iraq (assuming America doesn't enter the war in Europe).


A question of timing. It was very possible to defeat Britain in 1940. And like William Pitt the Younger noted regarding a Napoleon dominated a Europe, a pan European superpower would eventually come to possess the means by which to defeat the British if left unchecked.

C.) It is physically impossible for Germany to invade the USA in any way, shape, or form during the WWII time-frame.

D.) The Nazis will probably never develop the atomic bomb, but will however make strides in VX nerve gas warheads for ballistic missiles.

In a World War II timeframe yes, but a trans-European Empire with access to Caucasian and Middle Eastern oil, would possess the means not long afterwards and certainly before the 1980's to do so.   

The problem with your contention is that it is predicated on Hitler being 1) realistic and 2) credible when he says "this and no more" and Hitler was famous for being neither. On the other hand he was known for was meglamania and delusions about his own abilities and that of his Third Reich.
15  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: American domestic policy in the event of a Nazi victory in Europe on: July 27, 2014, 06:46:43 pm
Some things to lay out first:

A.) Hitler was never going to "conquer the world". That's just silly. A best-case-scenario for Germany in WWII involves Germany taking Russia up to the Astrakhan-to-Arkhangelsk line and at best Italian control over Egypt and the Near East. The idea was for Germany to become a pan-European superpower capable of competing with America in engaging in a final naval war with them "sometime in the 1980's" (as per Hitler's Second Book).

For one thing, I never used the word conquer. I said "wanted" and "dominate". Second of all, do you really thing Adolf Hitler would pass up the opportunity to take it, if it presented itself? The man always went beyond his stated desires at nearly every stage, so I don't think Hitler's own self stated limits hold much weight considering, it is you know HITLER we are discussing.

That gets into whole another realm of Hitler's attachment to reality. I merely stated he wanted the world, and once again nothing in his history indicates that his own material limits ever presented an obstacle in his mind. Otherwise he never would have attacked the Soviet Union and/or the US.

B.) It it borderline impossible for Germany to invade the UK directly. Much more likely some kind of peace treaty after the defeat of the USSR and fall of Iraq (assuming America doesn't enter the war in Europe).


A question of timing. It was very possible to defeat Britain in 1940. And like William Pitt the Younger noted regarding a Napoleon dominated a Europe, a pan European superpower would eventually come to possess the means by which to defeat the British if left unchecked.

C.) It is physically impossible for Germany to invade the USA in any way, shape, or form during the WWII time-frame.

D.) The Nazis will probably never develop the atomic bomb, but will however make strides in VX nerve gas warheads for ballistic missiles.

In a World War II timeframe yes, but a trans-European Empire with access to Caucasian and Middle Eastern oil, would possess the means not long afterwards and certainly before the 1980's to do so.   

The problem with your contention is that it is predicated on Hitler being 1) realistic and 2) credible when he says "this and no more" and Hitler was famous for being neither. On the other hand he was known for was meglamania and delusions about his own abilities and that of his Third Reich.

Yes, Hitler was Blofeld if he somehow managed to become leader of a country through the democratic process.
16  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Why did Tim Pawlenty give up on his mullet? on: July 27, 2014, 06:29:10 pm


I mean come on man!  Sh*t was so rad!
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Your Forum Cabinet on: July 27, 2014, 05:56:53 pm
President: traininthedistance (D-NY)
Vice President: Nathan (D-MA)

Secretary of State: politicus(I-DK)
Secretary of Defense: General Mung Beans (D-CA)
Secretary of the Treasury: Averroes Nix (G-NY)
Attorney General: bedstuy (D-NY)
Secretary of the Interior: Tender Branson (G-AT)
Secretary of Agriculture: Sibboleth (O-UK)
Secretary of Commerce: muon2 (R-IL)*
Secretary of Labor: DeadFlagBlues (D-ID)
Secretary of Education: Gully Foyle (G-IE)
Secretary of Health and Human Services: Franzl (D-DE)
Secretary of Transportation: Simfan (R-NY)
Secretary of Energy: dingojoe (??-LA)
Secretary of Veterans Affairs: Clarence (D-FL)
Secretary of Homeland Security: Mechaman (G-OK)
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Antonio V (D-IT)
EPA Administrator (raised to Secretary level, of course): Harry (D-MS)

Chief of Staff: Napoleon (D-NY)
Press Secretary: Bacon King (D-GA)
Campaign Manager: Miles (I-LA)
Ambassador to the UN: windjammer (D-FR)
US Trade Representative: Torie (R-CA)

*A note on Commerce: that's the department that runs the Census Bureau.  Hard to pick anybody but Muon for that task, no matter what other differences we may have.

EDIT: Thought better of some things vis-a-vis people's temperaments rather than just their viewpoints; also added a few more minor offices.  There's a bunch of folks I'd like to find space for but can't think of the best slot; may do a Westminster-style list to rectify that at some point.

You know, at this rate you might as well abolish the Homeland Security Office.  Unless you like the idea of me sitting on my ass watching Netflix all day and earning six figures.  Because that is exactly what would happen.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Why was turnout in the South so low 1872-1968? on: July 27, 2014, 01:04:37 pm
Besides blacks, the Jim Crow laws in most States also disenfranchised most of the white working class.

Emphasis.

While the disenfranchisement and terror against blacks was far far worse than what many lower class whites got, there was a genuine mortal fear among landed aristocrats in the South about what was going on in the North among the immigrant working class that machines like Tammany Hall relied upon.  The popularity of the Land League, in particular, must've been very unsettling to the landed aristocrats.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Your Forum Cabinet on: July 26, 2014, 11:46:50 pm
Ugh, let me see here:

This question is meaningless because I resign my duties as President.  My Vice President, TNF, who will now be taking over can answer that question.

Thanks, and Dave Bless

-Mechaman
Resignation effective, 7/26/2014
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Summarize Previous Poster's Political Beliefs on: July 26, 2014, 09:59:27 pm
Fake and gay.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Weird dreams you've had involving politicians on: July 26, 2014, 08:43:53 pm
Well sh**t, here's another that I just described to TNF:

20:32   Mecha   So I had this really weird dream the other night that Sean Hannity won the GOP nomination.
20:33   Mecha   After a brutal primary fight against Bill O'Reilly
20:33   Mecha   And for some reason, O'Reilly had an Irish accent.
20:33   Mecha   And swore repeatedly.
20:33   TNF   lol
20:35   Mecha   I was on O'Reilly's campaign.  He was running as a moderate Republican.
20:35   Mecha   Who was married to his gay lover Karl Rove.
20:37   Mecha   O'Reilly was running on "nationalizing gay marriage" and "amnesty for all".
20:37   Mecha   Hannity, for some reason, talked like a tobacco chewing son of a gun who worked at a Wisconsin rubber plant.
20:38   Mecha   And he had like motor oil on his business suit because he was working a full time job while campaigning for president.
20:38   Mecha   I'm not sure if he really talked about any issues, but his platform seemed to be "TAKING AMERICA BACK, YEAH!"
20:39   Mecha   I don't remember much other than that, besides John McCain, Bruce Willis, Eric Clapton, Mike Huckabee, and Tim Pawlenty playing some Def Leppard songs after Hannity got nominated.
20:40   Mecha   With Pawlenty, after nailing his infamous high volume screech, blaring into the mic how he was "glad that somebody is FINALLY GOING TO TAKE AMERICA BACK!!!!  YEAH!!!"
20:41   Mecha   And for some reason, when he moved his back down to do his infamous mullet bang, his mullet tripled in size and turned platinum.

Yeah. . . . . about that.
22  General Discussion / History / Re: A Must Read For Everyone on the Forum on: July 26, 2014, 07:40:55 pm
Also,  here are a few interesting maps you guys should check out (included in the link):





Take a few mental notes of what changes over 32 years. . . . . and what stays the same.
23  General Discussion / History / A Must Read For Everyone on the Forum on: July 26, 2014, 03:21:46 pm
I'm not saying that Oldiesfreak is right or anything, but:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/09/09/misunderstanding_the_southern_realignment_107084.html

there is a bit of evidence (and I'm not just pulling this from this article, I've made some similar observations in the past just off of this website's election results as well as studying up on the many factions in the late 19th-early 20th century Democratic and Republican Parties) to suggest that the whole Southern realignment thing wasn't based off of the race issue alone.  Of particular note they do include the DW-Nominate score matrix, which I will admit freely to still not understanding though it does seem to match up with the New Deal changing how the means matched the ends (ie, the notion of state interventionism being "liberal" or "conservative"), at least on economics.  Basically, men like John Garner were actually considered to be fairly "liberal" on economics pre-1932, but then rapidly got "conservative" as the details of the New Deal became more clear to traditionalists and business elites in the region.  With the exception of 1928, significant Republican gains wouldn't be seen until the late 1940s, as urban areas (and thus commercial business interests) exploded in the region as well as an influx of middle-upper class Republican voting northern whites lured by said opportunities.  As well, like I just mentioned, the all out advocacy of policies that empowered lower class whites and non-whites by the national party also encouraged some vote drift to the GOP.  Most remarkable, and something that many seem to glaze over, is that it was under Eisenhower, the president who sent the National Guard to desegregate schools in Little Rock, that the GOP saw it's most impressive gains on the national level.

On the congressional and local levels, it wouldn't be until the Democratic leadership did away with the old "Seniority" system in the US Congress and most people who remembered Hoover died off that the old tribalistic zeal for Democratic id went down among many conservative Southerners.  Of course this is not to say that race wasn't a factor (it most certainly was), but more to the point that it wasn't the only factor for the Republican drift.

But seriously, read the article.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: She will never win the elections on: July 26, 2014, 03:03:14 pm
Of course she will never win "the elections", she's running in only one of them.  Duh.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What is your dream job? on: July 25, 2014, 06:17:10 pm
Professional Hitman.
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