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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Hubert Humphrey on: October 31, 2014, 01:37:38 pm
Mung Beans, you seemed to imply that the claim was false.  I intended to show, regardless of my personal views of Humphrey, that it is pretty factual that HHH did support the things SWE claimed.  Sure, I admit I don't judge him on that alone (hell if the Rothbardists were alive back then they would be shaking with religious fervor to just shoot anybody with commie sympathies) and do acknowledge that practically everybody at the height of the second Red Scare era would've supported similar measures.  However, voting records are absolute fact, whether you like it or not.

There are plenty of other reasons to not like the man, especially as his post LBJ career shows.
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Hubert Humphrey on: October 30, 2014, 05:33:29 pm
Obvious HP (Not a fan of concentration camps)

As I've pointed out constantly the only place where this charged phrase was used was in a Mises. org article which I'm sure is absolutely unbiased in portraying the actual views of liberal politicians.

Anyways, Massive FF-would have been a great President and probably the best man the Democratic Party ever nominated.

Oh yes, biased mises.org sources like this one:

Quote
From a totally biased source
Humphrey was elected to the Senate in 1948, the year his proposal of ending racial segregation was included into the party platform at the Democratic National Convention, where he gave one of his most notable speeches on the convention floor, suggesting the Democratic Party "walk into the sunshine of human rights."[1] He served three terms in the Senate from 1949 to 1964 and was the Democratic Majority Whip from 1961 to 1964. During his tenure, Humphrey was the lead author of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, introduced the first initiative to create the Peace Corps, sponsored the clause of the McCarran Act to threaten concentration camps for 'subversives', proposed making Communist Party membership a felony and chaired the Select Committee on Disarmament.

Yes how dare Wikipedia and it's radical libertarian agenda of hating liberals and defending the Confederacy!
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The New Irony Ore Mine on: October 30, 2014, 05:24:03 pm
Do neither of you know what "ultra-leftism" means? It doesn't just mean "very left-wing".

To quote Wiki "The term ultra-leftism has two overlapping uses. One usage is a generally pejorative term for certain types of positions on the far left that are seen as extreme or intransigent. The term is also used — pejoratively or not — to refer to a particular current of Marxist communism, which is closely related to council communism and left communism."

People fitting definition 1 warning against definition 2 is ironic.

The proper definition is definition 2. I am actually a right-communist.

So you're basically an authoritarian who just likes to call himself a commie.

Makes sense.

You should see a doctor about your infantile disorder. Wink

4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - Lowborn Egoism Herrings on: October 30, 2014, 07:34:17 am
I'm in such a bad mood, stressed about so many things. The only person who can make it better and give me a hug is three hours away.

And the person I'd normally spill my guts to (someone else) also happens to be someone who stresses me out even more. To the point that I don't even know if it's worth starting a conversation with this person for a long, long time.

I dunno. I was doing so well back at school after a horrible summer. To be back at home sucks. Borderline depressing.

Well, I can't speak for everyone here Hagrid, but I'm sad you feel this way.  I'm not any of these close people you know and I certainly can't give you a hug (unless I feel like taking a day off from work and flying up to Canada for the day), but if you need someone to talk to I'm here.
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should the views of the Founding Fathers matter in modern political policy? on: October 30, 2014, 06:32:23 am
Only to the extent that the views of other past political philosophers matter. I voted no, because that's something less than treating them as demigods.

Mainly this.  Though I do believe that the views of the Founding Fathers should be taken into consideration for "if you don't learn from your past you're doomed to repeat it" reasons.

To expand upon this.

I'll first start off with this quote:

The Founding Fathers had radically different views from each other, so it's ultimately a meaningless term.

Not really an original part of my post/argument, but a nevertheless good point.  It is kind of absurd that some politicians take a "love it or leave it" approach with Constitutional interpretation when the thing itself was actually a compromise between those who wanted to stay in the Confederation and those who wanted a very strong and centralized government.  Basically, how can one be such a diehard defender of a compromise to defend it religiously two hundred some odd years later?

And then of course we have to take into consideration of what those men valued at the time and what their thoughts on society were.  Which brings in another quote:
Rule 1 of being Alfred: Never trust a man with more slaves than teeth.

Fact is, these were men who lived in the late 18th century and it is hard to view most of any of them (except maybe Aaron Burr) as "good" by our modern day standards.  This was a society that viewed black people as property, were propagating the idea that women should stay in the home, would've laughed in your face if you suggested that voting is a right and not a privilege (though to be fair there are still some people who do believe this), literally punished people for dancing, seriously believed that Irish people were subhuman "vermin" with a natural predisposition towards violence and drunkedness, thought the only good Indians were dead ones, Jews and Roman Catholics were in concordance with Beelzebub, etc. etc..  And that's just the things I could think of off the top of my head.

So yes, while I don't believe the Constitution should be completely discarded and ignored (I believe the nation would've been much better off if some politicians were more religiously devout in following the Amendments on privacy rights and free speech, for instance), I don't think it's too incredibly absurd to view it as a "living document" that is subject to revision, given the progress of society.
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The New Irony Ore Mine on: October 30, 2014, 05:30:55 am
Do neither of you know what "ultra-leftism" means? It doesn't just mean "very left-wing".

To quote Wiki "The term ultra-leftism has two overlapping uses. One usage is a generally pejorative term for certain types of positions on the far left that are seen as extreme or intransigent. The term is also used — pejoratively or not — to refer to a particular current of Marxist communism, which is closely related to council communism and left communism."

People fitting definition 1 warning against definition 2 is ironic.

The proper definition is definition 2. I am actually a right-communist.

So you're basically an authoritarian who just likes to call himself a commie.

Makes sense.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How would you react on Election Night 2016 if these candidates are elected? on: October 30, 2014, 04:35:18 am
I would be extremely confused as to how 26 people were elected President.
8  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should the views of the Founding Fathers matter in modern political policy? on: October 29, 2014, 06:17:05 pm
Only to the extent that the views of other past political philosophers matter. I voted no, because that's something less than treating them as demigods.

Mainly this.  Though I do believe that the views of the Founding Fathers should be taken into consideration for "if you don't learn from your past you're doomed to repeat it" reasons.
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Lumine & SJoyce - A New Course for Atlasia (Victory!) on: October 29, 2014, 11:51:44 am
Much belated, but congratulations Lumine.  You have won again.
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would you rather live in a left-wing theocracy or a Randian Objectist society? on: October 29, 2014, 11:48:54 am
left-wing theocracy, preferably of a liberation theology bent.
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of FreedomHawk on: October 28, 2014, 12:19:54 pm
Ehh, after recent statements I feel obligated to vote HP.

I will not pretend that cheerleaders are feminist icons but FreedomHawk's statements were clearly too far into Angry Frustrated Straight White Male territory for any reasonable doubt.  As well, I find his resentment and disdain for the attitudes of cheerleaders he knew as a reason he didn't find it to be a sport extremely illogical, irrational, and strange.  There were much better ways to voice the opinion that many cheerleaders are self-entitled egoists than the way he did it (like starting a thread with a question like "why is there a culture of ingrained entitlement among high school football players and cheerleaders?" and start out with a post to the effect of "In my experience I've found that quite a few of the popular athletes at my school feel like they are entitled or are just better than everyone else.  Why is that?").  Namely, the laser focus on cheerleaders with no focus at all on male athletics (which in my opinion are just as prone if not more so than cheerleading squads to that kind of mentality) is what kind of seals the deal on Hawk.

My first piece of sage advice would be for him to avoid things (and people) that frustrate him so much.  It seems counterproductive, frankly.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Democrats Can Take Texas -John Judis on: October 28, 2014, 11:59:51 am
I can see that the red hack circlejerk in this board is far from dry.
* Mechaman not a Republican by any means.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The t_host1 Institute of Comedy on: October 27, 2014, 12:51:19 pm
Perhaps my bias comes from the fact that the cheerleaders at my school are the most narcissistic, hive minded, self-centered, attention seeking, self-gratifying pieces of filth I have ever witnessed.

In that case it certainly is a sport.

Classic response.  CLASSIC.
14  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Is Cheerleading a Sport? on: October 27, 2014, 12:47:41 pm
Perhaps my bias comes from the fact that the cheerleaders at my school are the most narcissistic, hive minded, self-centered, attention seeking, self-gratifying pieces of filth I have ever witnessed.

In that case it certainly is a sport.

This post has me dying right now, for the record.

Also, lol at the MRA outrage.  Not saying that I liked cheerleaders in general, just that somebody needs a much better outlook on life.  Oh and also, it's not a good idea to hang around people who irritate or piss you off.  It only makes you angrier.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: October 27, 2014, 12:44:50 pm
Bushie, do you have a clear idea of what the Rapture is going to be like?  I remember in Bill Maher's movie some lady said that she will literally be riding to heaven on a white horse.  I mean... to even know the color of the horse...

I don't know exactly, but I believe it will occur at the Battle of Armageddon when the world's army has pushed the Israeli army to the brink of elimination.  Jesus, who is Israel's Savior, will come down at the last moment riding in on a white horse and every Christian around the world will ascend into the air toward Jesus and the White Horse, receive their transformed bodies, and fight with Jesus and defeat the world's army and rescue Israel.  The Christians will then go into heaven without having tasted death, and the world will be ushered into the 1,000 year reign of Jesus when Satan is bound and put in prison for 1,000 years and all the world governments will be overthrown and the entire world will be ruled by Jesus and His church, the ones He raptured.  During that 1,000 years there will be not one war and there really will be peace on earth, good will toward men.  At the end of the 1,000 years, Satan will be loosed to wreak havoc for a season and then be permanently cast into the lake of fire.

I realize it seems like a fairy tale and I may be wrong on some aspects of this, but this is how I envision it to take place.  I'm not going to be silly and claim I'm right and everybody else is wrong, because the only one to know exactly how it will happen is God Himself.

What in the hell?
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Steve King: "I don’t expect to meet [gays] should I make it to heaven." on: October 27, 2014, 12:37:40 pm
Just admit you don't like gays already, Aggregate.  This act is fooling nobody.
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Winfield for Northeast Governor. Concession speech. on: October 26, 2014, 01:10:18 pm
Whatever strong disagreements I had with you, you ran a hell of a campaign.  I must congratulate you on your success.

-Mechaman
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: MA: The Mideast Police Canine Reform Act (Voting on Override) on: October 26, 2014, 01:02:13 pm
"Fascist loser"

You've failed to pass a single piece of legislation this session.

Yes because the session is obviously over. . . . . oh wait. . . . .
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: October 26, 2014, 12:47:48 pm
This is easily one of the most absurd comparisons I've ever heard:

Democrats had no traction until the Iraq War, which was basically a rehash of American Civil War politics. Democrats asking Radical Republicans why they thought Muslims could handle democracy and immediate emancipation, and why democracy, which makes no economic promises, is preferential to the stability of benevolent tyranny via UN receivership. It's the same general argument we have about the American poor every election cycle.

The political fallout from the Iraq War was pure schadenfreude. Some Democratic politicians derived the similar delight from the Iraq insurgency that they derived from insurgents in the South, and many politicians of liberal and moderate persuasions (both parties) rejected the Radical Republican plan to combat the insurgents with renewed military vigor in 2007. After reconstruction was complete, and after the Panic of 1873, I mean 2008, Republicans were sent packing.

The major difference is that the modern version of Radical Republicans didn't raise taxes to finance the war; instead, they left the economic chores to the Obama admin.

I'm quite amazed nobody posted this yet.

Why?  Most of the people who might do so probably have him on ignore by now.

lol, fair enough.
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: October 26, 2014, 08:58:36 am
This is easily one of the most absurd comparisons I've ever heard:

Democrats had no traction until the Iraq War, which was basically a rehash of American Civil War politics. Democrats asking Radical Republicans why they thought Muslims could handle democracy and immediate emancipation, and why democracy, which makes no economic promises, is preferential to the stability of benevolent tyranny via UN receivership. It's the same general argument we have about the American poor every election cycle.

The political fallout from the Iraq War was pure schadenfreude. Some Democratic politicians derived the similar delight from the Iraq insurgency that they derived from insurgents in the South, and many politicians of liberal and moderate persuasions (both parties) rejected the Radical Republican plan to combat the insurgents with renewed military vigor in 2007. After reconstruction was complete, and after the Panic of 1873, I mean 2008, Republicans were sent packing.

The major difference is that the modern version of Radical Republicans didn't raise taxes to finance the war; instead, they left the economic chores to the Obama admin.

I'm quite amazed nobody posted this yet.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Sawx for Governor - Our Northeast (Victory Speech) on: October 26, 2014, 12:49:06 am
Congratulations Mr. Governor.
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Martha Coakley on: October 26, 2014, 12:25:32 am
Awful and incompetent.

She's so horrible that if I lived in Massachusetts I'm pretty certain I would vote for Charlie Baker, just to make sure she stays as far away from a Governor's Mansion as much as possible.

Hopefully some of the recent polls that show Baker ahead hold up till Election Day.

I mean, I'd still rather have a Democrat than a Republican be Governor (unless the Democrat is like Edwin Edwards or whatever) so I wouldn't take Baker over Coakley just to spite her. It's kinda like how I'd vote Hawkins if I lived in New York, but between Cuomo and Astorino, I'd still rather have Cuomo.

I usually wouldn't vote Republican, like ever, but Coakley is that bad of a human being.

Besides, Charlie Baker is by far one of the better Republicans one can get in this entire country.  If the GOP was full of politicians like Baker. . . . . they would be Democrats.

I think that's more of a testament to how pitiful the Democratic Party is rather than how great Charlie Baker is. But I get your point.

Also a part of my point.

Point is not that Baker is a hero, but that Coakley is an undefendable politician.  ANd I base that off of what she has done in her office, not how bad she blew some election.
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE3: Because You've Earned It Act (Debating) on: October 25, 2014, 08:23:59 am
I haven't spouted off any ad hominem attacks. I've simply pointed out that your arguments here don't make any sense.

Neither do yours or AdamGriffin's.

By your own admissions ballot placement doesn't affect sh*t in the game, but it affects competition?

Double negative much?

I don't mean to be a pest, but this is really a pot calling the kettle black situation.  Even if Sawx is being a bit of a hack and trumpeting this as a campaign issue (he is), you haven't done as smashing of a job putting down his points as you think you have.  If anything, you've damaged your own credibility, for the argumentative reasons I outlined above.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Biggest Hacks on Atlas? on: October 25, 2014, 07:55:54 am
Yeah, Nader does not equal all Greens.  
25  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Poll: Which decision/event cost President George W. Bush the most? on: October 25, 2014, 07:17:01 am
Getting sworn in (sane).

If Bush was realistic about his life's goals and dreams he would've realized that his only place in society would've been as an investment scam artist with a record of turning ventures broke while somehow pocketing millions for himself.  Or he could've become a typical greedy oil and gas executive and pocketed billions while his buddies in Congress and the White House did the same sh*t he would've done otherwise.  However, they likely would've done it a bit more competently and less dumb apishly as Bush did it.

Point is, Bush is literally somebody who should not have been President.
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