The deaths of innocents in the pursuit of justice is immoral and unethical. Therefore, any aim that Wrath of God was trying to pursue before the point of innocent blood being shed is invalidated.

Regardless of scope or purpose, the results are unjustifiable.

Extremely negative. I wouldn't condone this type of thing from American agencies, and it's no different because it's Mossad.

As much as social conservatives having fairs is lulzy, I think I'll have a heartattack if either Tom Coburn or Jim Inhofe are revealed to be having affairs. Especially Inhofe:

...As you see here, and I think this is maybe the most important prop we’ll have during the entire debate, my wife and I have been married 47 years. We have 20 kids and grandkids. I'm really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we've never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Inhofe#LGBT_rights

Truly one of the lowest points in the history of the US Senate.
It's up (or down?) there with Charles Sumner's beating.

And to think this guy represents me in the US Senate.....truly disgusting. Hell, he's even from the same city (Tulsa). Now does everyone know why I'm so anti-social conservative?

Mechman, I thought it was because you graduated from ORU.   ;-)

No, I got to Oklahoma Christian University in Edmond, OK. I just live in Tulsa with my parents during the summer. OC is a bit more sane than ORU, lol.

What?  No 900-foot Jesus?  ;-)    I don't know about OCU but I am sure it's a good place. 

OCU is actually pretty liberal for a christian college in the middle of friggin Oklahoma (student body wise). The people I hang around with there are pretty left in ideaology, I guess they would be around your PM score. I think on average the student body there would be described as "moderate", it must be because of the university's emphasis on "liberal arts" that attracts alot of art students that makes this an oddly liberal christian college.

[The Libertarian Party is not the hound dog for conservatives. We are not chumps for economic liberalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism) at the cost of civil liberties. We shall not give into the lesser of evils. To lower us down to simply the party of "lower taxes" is insulting. We are much more than that, we are the party that calls for the radical downsizing of government in people's lives. You can't have true liberty until the people are free both economically and socially. To compromise on either is unacceptable and makes us no different than those who cave into the ultimate evil in this world: the special interest.]

Ron Paul is nothing more than a far-right typical Texas Republican imo. He voted for the DOMA, Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act (or whatever it was called), DC Gay Adoption Ban Act, he supports DADT, and is pro-sodomy law.

Yep.  I realize no one is in lock step with their party on every issue...so I suppose a there are good Libertarians who break with that movement here or there.  But Paul breaks with them on so many...and particularly on issue that have moved so many Republicans into the Libertarian column.

Guys like Ron Paul and Bob Barr are nothing more than disaffected conservatives who seek to bastardized our radical philosophy. It pisses me off so much when people describe us Libertarians as "Ultra-Conservatives". Our party should have no stomach for reactionaries. Let me say this once loud for everyone to hear:

The Libertarian Party is not the hound dog for conservatives. We are not chumps for economic liberalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism) at the cost of civil liberties. We shall not give into the lesser of evils. To lower us down to simply the party of "lower taxes" is insulting. We are much more than that, we are the party that calls for the radical downsizing of government in people's lives. You can't have true liberty until the people are free both economically and socially. To compromise on either is unacceptable and makes us no different than those who cave into the ultimate evil in this world: the special interest.

That isn't to say there is no room for moderation. I for one think environmental stewardship is a very libertarian idea because polluting the air infringes on the health of other individuals. I also think that consumer safety is very important, can you imagine what danger people would be facing if cars didn't have safety belts (kind of why I have a missplaced fanboyism for Ralph Nader).
http://www.lpradicals.org/pages/home/key-points.php (the fuel to the fire of my rant).

Let's get back on track:

Sanford, hypocrite, douchebag, dickhead, mischeivious (is that the word) bastard!

As much as social conservatives having fairs is lulzy, I think I'll have a heartattack if either Tom Coburn or Jim Inhofe are revealed to be having affairs. Especially Inhofe:

...As you see here, and I think this is maybe the most important prop we’ll have during the entire debate, my wife and I have been married 47 years. We have 20 kids and grandkids. I'm really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we've never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Inhofe#LGBT_rights

Truly one of the lowest points in the history of the US Senate.
It's up (or down?) there with Charles Sumner's beating.

And to think this guy represents me in the US Senate.....truly disgusting. Hell, he's even from the same city (Tulsa). Now does everyone know why I'm so anti-social conservative?

Mechman, I thought it was because you graduated from ORU.   ;-)

No, I got to Oklahoma Christian University in Edmond, OK. I just live in Tulsa with my parents during the summer. OC is a bit more sane than ORU, lol.

As much as social conservatives having fairs is lulzy, I think I'll have a heartattack if either Tom Coburn or Jim Inhofe are revealed to be having affairs. Especially Inhofe:

...As you see here, and I think this is maybe the most important prop we’ll have during the entire debate, my wife and I have been married 47 years. We have 20 kids and grandkids. I'm really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we've never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Inhofe#LGBT_rights

Truly one of the lowest points in the history of the US Senate.
It's up (or down?) there with Charles Sumner's beating.

And to think this guy represents me in the US Senate.....truly disgusting. Hell, he's even from the same city (Tulsa). Now does everyone know why I'm so anti-social conservative?

This forum does seem kind of macho. But it's not something we can help. It's not our fault if females don't feel like joining with the big boys.

Hell, because JSojourner is too nice a fucking guy to have an affair.

If I had to be a guessing man though, probably Sandusky, Ohio.

As much as social conservatives having fairs is lulzy, I think I'll have a heartattack if either Tom Coburn or Jim Inhofe are revealed to be having affairs. Especially Inhofe:

...As you see here, and I think this is maybe the most important prop we’ll have during the entire debate, my wife and I have been married 47 years. We have 20 kids and grandkids. I'm really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we've never had a divorce or any kind of homosexual relationship.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Inhofe#LGBT_rights

Ron Paul is nothing more than a far-right typical Texas Republican imo. He voted for the DOMA, Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act (or whatever it was called), DC Gay Adoption Ban Act, he supports DADT, and is pro-sodomy law.

The true libertarians are people like Wayne Root, Ross Perot, Barry Goldwater etc.

Lol, don't make me laugh swan.

Ross Perot? He may be a centrist but he's no libertarian. A true libertarian wouldn't be a firm believer in protectionism, would he? Would a true libertarian support expansion of the War on Drugs? Stop making me laugh........
He did have an awesome campaign though.

Barry Goldwater?! Please, he wanted a more aggressive foreign policy stance against China and Russia! Hell he even talked using the bomb in Vietnam! I really do hate to nitpick but a huge military industrial complex kind of defeats the purpose of libertarian government.

Wayne Root, he might have IT. But we'll have to see next time he runs for president or political office.

[eah but I don't think it'll actually be Ron Paul running (he's quite old and comes across as crazy).]

Huckabee would have no chance aganist Obama because of his extreme social conservative views. Also, what if Romney shocks everyone and decides NOT to run, or there's another big scandal which involves him before 2012?

Three words.

Ron Paul Revolution.

In that case, Tancredo wins the nomination with a 50 state sweep.

Huckabee would have no chance aganist Obama because of his extreme social conservative views. Also, what if Romney shocks everyone and decides NOT to run, or there's another big scandal which involves him before 2012?

Three words.

Ron Paul Revolution.

Yeah but I don't think it'll actually be Ron Paul running (he's quite old and comes across as crazy). Now Gary Johnson, with Sanford gone and not able to bastardize the Liberty movement he seems the most likely. Oh, and he's single, so if the evil conspirators want to take him down get him hooked on heroin or take a picture of him banging a goat.

Ron Paul is a disgrace to libertarian leaners (imo). He's getting the ideology associated with racists, 9-11 truthers, and Texas rednecks.

Anyway, they could paint Gary Johnson as gay because he's not married. I will say this, Johnson is probably one of the strongest potential candidates in 2012 (though I don't know if he will run).

Hey I don't like Ron Paul either. In fact I would love to have Gary Johnson take over the so-called "Revolution" so he can make it actually libertarian.

It does piss me off that Ron Paul has bastardized the libertarian movement, I was just weighing in and saying I'm happy he's getting older and crazier because now actual libertarians may lead the whole Liberty movement. I don't know how many times I've had to clarify this position already.

Plus, how does the 'gay' part even work? He's divorced and his wife died from cancer.....oh my god. They can somehow link his divorce with her dying of cancer! Damn it!

Considering the battiness of NYC in general, I'm going to have to say FC.

At this point I  will probably stay republican. But It's possible I'll drift to the Libertarians or Constitution party. 

With a social score of +10 you're going to be more Libertarian? 

Eh..either way I'm not blocking any possibility (Except The Democrats)

Get that social score negative and then we'll talk about it.

Sickos.

Yeah I said it.

Huckabee would have no chance aganist Obama because of his extreme social conservative views. Also, what if Romney shocks everyone and decides NOT to run, or there's another big scandal which involves him before 2012?

Three words.

Ron Paul Revolution.

Yeah but I don't think it'll actually be Ron Paul running (he's quite old and comes across as crazy). Now Gary Johnson, with Sanford gone and not able to bastardize the Liberty movement he seems the most likely. Oh, and he's single, so if the evil conspirators want to take him down get him hooked on heroin or take a picture of him banging a goat.

Since I found out that opebo likes Thai prostitutes I'd like to change my vote:

opebo/Sanford

Lookin good!

Time to bring back the Fairness Doctrine.

Which would have no bearing on this particular problem at all.

But I do agree...and I suspect you and I are the only ones who do.

The fairness doctrine is unconstitutional. Simple as that. (Has many other problems as well)

You do realize that the fairness doctrine would hurt Dems.

Well, speaking as a professional journalist who worked under The Fairness Doctrine and who worked after its repeal, I can only say that the public was better served under it.

So you would break constitutional precedent just to better serve the "public"?

Plus, Fox wouldn't be able to look ridiculous as it does now. If anything Fox is helping destroy the Republicans more than any unfair speech laws could.

1.  Secular Humanism (100%) 
2.  Unitarian Universalism (96%) 
3.  Theravada Buddhism (94%) 
4.  Nontheist (90%) 
5.  Liberal Quakers (82%) 
6.  Taoism (67%) 
7.  Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (65%) 
8.  Neo-Pagan (59%) 
9.  Mahayana Buddhism (55%) 
10.  Orthodox Quaker (45%) 
11.  New Age (43%) 
12.  Reform Judaism (42%) 
13.  Sikhism (40%) 
14.  Jainism (40%) 
15.  Hinduism (39%) 
16.  Seventh Day Adventist (35%) 
17.  Scientology (30%) 
18.  New Thought (29%) 
19.  Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (25%) 
20.  Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (22%) 
21.  Baha'i Faith (22%) 
22.  Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (21%) 
23.  Eastern Orthodox (13%) 
24.  Islam (13%) 
25.  Orthodox Judaism (13%) 
26.  Roman Catholic (13%) 
27.  Jehovah's Witness (11%) 

Somewhere in the Idaho woods/mountains, arming against the government.

LMFAO, that was gold.

Anyway, I would say Coopertown for GM3, he looks like a baseball fan.

Ah alright. Sorry, it's early.

It's all good.

I actually like that Victoria's Secret ad more than the 1980s Maidenform one. But to each his own.

I'm pretty confident that Naso is the only person in this thread who prefers the '80s ad.

^^^^^

Is the model Miranda Kerr btw? She's pretty hot, wonder what her ethnic background is.

All I've got to say is:
Damn! I'd hit that!

But the other chick who looks pretty bangable too though

If anything an endorsement from Palin for a candidate will make as many people vote against said candidate (if not more) than vote for them. It's because out of all the social issues abortion seems to be the boner kill of the Republican party base, and how ironic is it that all four of the women in the US Senate at the very least basically support the legality of abortion?

Probably not. Palin's favorable rating is 45% favorable rating with voters right now and 73% with Republicans. And if those are her national numbers, you can imagine what her approval rating is in Texas.

Ahem.....

I doubt Palin's endorsement will cost Perry any votes for the 2010 Republican primary for governor in Texas, sir.  That seems rather silly, to be honest.

It's not just Palin, of course.  Her position on abortion, I would argue, is why she could never rise above, what, #4  (?) in the Senate and partially why she's bailing from the Senate to seek the governorship now.

Anyway, the point was just an amusing one about a possible byproduct of having a bunch of old guys (+ Palin !!!) running the party's future.  I mean, my point is complete statistical BS if you were to try and you know, do something with it mathematically or whatever, but I don't believe there's ever been a case of a powerful female politician in the US having an affair.  Eh, whatever, I'm just trying to raise a curious idea not trying to make an argument.

Yeah, I forget about the Republican primaries there, lol. Hutchison may as well go for retirement.

Just another hack gaffe on my part sir.

And of course Gary Johnson might be looking to become the Ron Paul of 2012:

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/news.php

Somebody give me a Hell Yeah!