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576  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: August 02, 2010, 10:52:19 pm
How do you want to redraw Bolton West anyway?

I do think you may be starting with the wrong place in just trying to do Bolton (or something) and hoping everything else will fall into place.  Bolton is so far away from the quota that there will be knock-on effects with the neighbouring boroughs (Salford and Bury).

I am working west-->east, so now the borough of Wigan is done (Atherton missing out), I was hoping it would all work out.....I could create a JUST under Bolton West and hope the December 2010 electorate tips it over Wink
577  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: August 02, 2010, 03:47:44 pm
Bolton is driving me mad. I'm only 900 votes short of quota, but I can't get Bolton West redrawn Sad
578  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: August 02, 2010, 03:16:12 pm
Right, got Wigan (c75k), Makerfield (c73k) and Leigh (c75k)

This leaves Bolton minus bits (c176k) and Atherton ward. I fear that it would be impossible to create seats with just the left over bits and Atherton. I'll report back!
579  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scotland 2011 Parliamentary Elections on: August 01, 2010, 01:39:56 pm
The new boundaries certainly throw up some interesting contests.
580  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: August 01, 2010, 01:38:25 pm
You will be hunted down and killed for "Birmingham Sutton" you know Wink Smiley
581  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: August 01, 2010, 01:13:39 pm
Heh, I get criticised for inventing too long names, too short names, I can't win Smiley

I've been quite hungover throughout the day, so not been in the mood for looking at Gtr Manchester. Will look tomorrow. I have some ideas which could mean massive surgery in the Manchester area....
582  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: August 01, 2010, 12:24:57 pm
WBW could be "Tipton" or "Tipton and Wednesbury" at the moment.
583  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: August 01, 2010, 12:04:54 pm
I would rename the West Brom seats. Isn't it the case that WBW (as is) doesn't cover any of Brom itself?
584  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: August 01, 2010, 11:38:22 am
=<
585  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: What was the most memorable by-election in UK history.... on: August 01, 2010, 11:28:24 am
The SDP (continuing) still has councillors in some Yorkshire councils.
586  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: August 01, 2010, 11:27:32 am
Can I just say how great it is that we three have managed to keep this thread going for nearly 18 pages? This is before the Bill is even debated, how longer will it get by December? Smiley
587  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: July 31, 2010, 11:26:52 am
Brilliant, cheers for that. I really hope to keep Wigan together without crossing boundaries.
588  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: July 31, 2010, 11:15:06 am
I'm liking "Irwell Valley" a LOT, and yeah, think if I'm going to have "...Burnley North" in one seat and "Burnley and..." in another, there's nothing against having "Blackburn and..." with "....and West Blackburn"..... So I'll accept those changes Wink

(Though I have just written my blog with my original names, so once I've played with Gtr Manchester, I'll update the names Smiley )
589  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: July 31, 2010, 09:59:26 am
I've put the 15 seat Lancashire in the gallery.....So  here, at last, is what I've done for a 15 seat Lancashire. I'll prepare to hide from any brickbats!

I will try to upload a map with labels, but I am sure the more attentive of you will work out what is what...

Darwen, Egerton and Pleasington   77,488
Blackpool North and Fleetwood   72,765
Blackpool South   74,074
Burnley and Accrington   76,827
Chorley and Wrightington   75,692
Blackburn and Rishton   78,881
Fylde   76,339
Lancaster and Morecambe   78,808
Pendle and Burnley North   78,931
Preston   74,807
Rossendale and Ramsbottom   77,638
South Ribble   76,190
Valleys of Ribble and Lune   74,671
West Lancashire   76,704
Wyre and Preston North   76,733
590  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: July 31, 2010, 08:53:02 am
LOL.  Okay, I will try to avoid that. I remember being told that Whitworth wants out of Rochdale, maybe the Big Society could organise a binding referendum Wink
591  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: July 31, 2010, 07:29:14 am
I still haven't found a solution to East Lancs =<  I have been looking at Google Earth to see how hilly and mountainy neighbouring wards are, I'm going to give it one more go, before plumping for....Maybe Darwen + bits below - Bolton or Bury?
592  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Clegg: I lied to the electorate on: July 29, 2010, 04:59:03 pm
Very selective quotes from the 5days documentary.
593  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Basil Marceaux on: July 29, 2010, 10:28:53 am
My faith in democracy has been restored.  This man is the saviour of Republican Party.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hvaeHllwtw
594  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: July 28, 2010, 04:40:21 pm
Right, here goes:

South Ribble (76,190)[/b ]
The borough of South Ribble, minus Brig, Walton-le-Dale, Salmlesbury, Coupe Green
Plus Lostock, and Euxton wards from Chorley
Possible alternative name - South Ribble and West Chorley (which is UGLY as sin)

West Lancashire (76,704)
The borough of West Lancashire minus Parbold, Wrightington, Newburgh

Chorley and Wrightington (75,692)
Borough of Chorley minus Lostock and Euxton
Plus Parbold, Wrightington, Newburgh.
Possible different name - Chorley and South West Lancashire?
595  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Richard 'D---y' Desmond to buy UK's Channel Five on: July 28, 2010, 03:24:43 pm
Now we can have our own FOX!

[weeps]
596  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: July 27, 2010, 01:01:00 pm
Plans for tomorrow then  :

Scrap West Lancs, Wigan/Makerfield/Leigh, Chorley, South Ribble

Re work the Lancs bits, consider Blackburn+Chorley as way out of current log-jam.

Praise Allah we have until December to fathom all this out.
597  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: July 27, 2010, 12:35:40 pm
Think you might be right about my South Ribble - I have it as 76,429.....but I fear that may be worked out with JUST Bamber Bridge North, not the whole of Brig.

DAMN DAMN BLAST BUGGER!
598  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: 92,000 damning documents on: July 27, 2010, 10:48:31 am

That is a bizarre statement!

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...[W]hich could put the lives of Americans and our partners at risk, and threaten our national security

The documents prove that Americans and their "partners", including Britons, have never been at greater risk from within Afghanistan thanks to the back-of-a-cigarette-packet planning clearly in place before the invasion. As for "threatening security", I have been in an airport during an ETA bomb attack, and have lived in the UK during the IRA bombing campaign; I hold little credence to the idea that maintaining a "conflict" in one part of the world stops attacks elsewhere.

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These irresponsible leaks will not impact our ongoing commitment to deepen our partnerships with Afghanistan and Pakistan

Might want to check on the "sources" briefing in the newspapers today from both sides who now distruct each other far more than they already did. Pakistan's role in this conflict needs scrutiny, not bypassing.

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Yet the Pakistani government – and Pakistan’s military and intelligence services – must continue their strategic shift against insurgent groups

Yeah, they're doing an FAN-TAST-IC job of that, so far. Driving Taliban into lawless provinces of Pakistan, well done, there.
599  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: 92,000 damning documents on: July 27, 2010, 09:19:12 am
Yes, fighting wars is the constitutionally authorized job of the federal govt.

At any cost?
600  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: 92,000 damning documents on: July 27, 2010, 07:48:00 am
I don't get what is so shocking. War is messy.  Always has been. Always will be.

It's not just "war is messy" that is so shocking. It is the amount of innocent deaths which were covered up. The number of Afghans killed with families "paid off". The hitherto unknown extent of Pakistani involvement in the border area. It's a disgraceful record of a costly, never ending war.

What part about the government covering shit up is shocking?  It's a government. That's what governments do. Especially when it comes to stuff that makes it look bad.

Or am I being too cynical?

No, I think you are right to raise that as a legitimate concern. It is clear from these documents that  the Afghan conflict is become an expensive folly from which we should depart as quickly as it is safe to do so.

The causes of the current troubles with this conflict seem to have switched to Pakistan. I see no end to the deaths of innocent people or the deaths of serviceman if the neverending war is drawn into a part of the world where the threat of nuclear weapons is a very real possibility.

Afghanistan has been a failure and both all forces in Afganistan need to be returned home.
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