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576  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK local by-elections 2011 on: October 21, 2011, 06:04:53 am
Some more info on Brig's affluence level and social makeup would be welcome, thanks! Smiley



If you still need this (sorry for the late reply!).....Bamber Bridge (or as you are quite rightly directed to call it, Brig) is a fairly suburban little town/large village.  Good mix of the "hard working families" working locally in below average pay offices and shops and the like, and commuter country working in Preston or Blackburn, maybe even further away,  and then there's a good slice of new build estates springing up with the young professionals that flock to such places.  There's no obvious pockets of poverty, it's very much "comfortable".

The ward with a byelection is an odd one - a good slice of it is an industrial estate (where I worked for nearly 2 years).

Here are some streets within Bamber Bridge East :

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=mounsey+road,+bamber+bridge&hl=en&ll=53.725738,-2.659496&spn=0.000013,0.017585&sll=53.385022,-3.02817&sspn=0.008946,0.026994&vpsrc=6&hnear=Mounsey+Rd,+Bamber+Bridge,+Preston+PR5,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=53.72574,-2.656091&panoid=nddZHi0mKpE5gt_TwacaCg&cbp=12,119.03,,0,3.95


http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=poplar+avenue,+bamber+bridge&hl=en&ll=53.731889,-2.660215&spn=0.000013,0.017585&sll=53.72574,-2.656091&sspn=0.004462,0.017585&vpsrc=6&hnear=Poplar+Ave,+Bamber+Bridge,+Preston+PR5,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=53.731891,-2.656819&panoid=eEJCLA11DdJ8kA9Ex1z_jw&cbp=12,343.57,,0,-3.41


577  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Proposal to split this forum on: October 20, 2011, 01:32:03 pm
I support a divide, but along different terms....

What about "Elections and Referenda" and "Administration and Boundaries" ?
578  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK local by-elections 2011 on: October 17, 2011, 10:39:37 am
From their website :

http://ymlp.com/z0ZaSm


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Who is speaking up for workers?
 
Even though the next set of elections is still seven months away, it is vital that prospective candidates come forward and preparations begin now to build the widest possible TUSC challenge.
 
Elections will be held next year, on Thursday May 3rd, for every seat in all 32 councils in Scotland; all 22 councils in Wales; for the Greater London Mayor and Assembly; and in 128 English local authorities.
 
In London a campaign is under way to build trade union support at least for a slate of candidates for the all-London 11-seat ‘party list top-up’ component of the Greater London Assembly elections.  Every Londontrade unionist should use the petition/appeal letter that is available, to show the support that could be mobilised for such a challenge. (See the TUSC website for downloadable PDFs)  Similar trade union based discussions have begun for an election challenge in the Scottish local council elections, and for candidates in Wales too.
 
In England there will be 38 Labour-controlled council facing elections in May, just having passed budgets (in February-March) for the second year of Osborne’s austerity programme.  The cuts they are likely to propose will be brutal – and 15 of these 38 councils were freshly elected in May this year.  The opportunities will be there to find candidates who are prepared to stand on TUSC’s clear programme of opposition to all cuts to council jobs, conditions and services.
 
579  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: October 17, 2011, 07:25:26 am
Maybe I should have posted these before, but these be the public meeting times and locations.


10 October
Ramada Hotel, Belfast

11 and 12 October
Britannia Hotel, Portland Street, Manchester, M1 3LA
Ramada Hotel, Belfast

13 and 14 October
Ramada Leeds North, Millgreen View, Ring Road, Leeds, LS14 5QF
Brook Mollington Babastre Hotel, Parkgate Road, Mollington, Cheshire, CH1 6NN

17 and 18 October
Town Hall, Pinstone Street, Sheffield, S1 2HH
Holiday Inn, 97 Cromwell Road, London, SW7 4DN
Civic Centre, Rickergate, Carlisle, Cumbria, CA3 8QC

19 October
Silverbirch Hotel, Omagh

20 and 21 October
Royal Berkshire Conference Centre, Madejski Stadium, Reading, Berkshire, RG2 0FK
The Golden Lion Hotel, 114 High Street, Northallerton, North Yorkshire, DL7 8PP
Brent Town Hall, Forty Lane, Wembley, Middlesex, HA9 9HD
Radisson Blu Hotel Liverpool, 107 Old Hall Street, Liverpool, L3 9BD
Silverbirch Hotel, Omagh

24 and 25 October
Macdonald Tickled Trout Hotel, Preston New Road, Samlesbury, Preston, Lancashire, PR5 0UJ
Milton Keynes Council, Civic Offices, 1 Saxon Gate East, Central Milton Keynes, MK9 3EJ
Lewisham Town Hall, Catford Road, Catford, London, SE6 4RU
Hull City Hall, Queen Victoria Square, Hull, HU1 3RQ
Tullyglass Hotel, Ballymena


27 and 28 October
Guildhall, Guildhall Square, Portsmouth, PO1 2AB
East Ham Town hall, Barking Road, London, E6 2RP
The Derby Conference Centre, London Road, Derby, DE24 8UX

31 October and 1 November
Northampton Guildhall, St Giles Square, Northampton, NN1 1DE
Town Hall, Wandsworth High Street, London, SW18 2PU
Town Hall, High Street, Colchester, CO1 1PJ
Crowne Plaza, London Gatwick Airport, Langley Drive, Crawley, West Sussex, RH11 7SX

3 and 4 November
City Hall, St Peters Street, Norwich, NR2 1NH
Ramada Maidstone, Ashford Road, Hollingbourne, Near Maidstone, Kent, ME17 1RE
Lincoln Hotel, Eastgate, Lincoln, LN2 1PN
Copthorne Hotel, Paradise Circus, Birmingham, B3 3HJ

7 and 8 November
Town Hall, George Street, Luton, LU1 2BQ
Ludlow Conference Centre, Lower Galdeford, Ludlow, Shropshire, SY8 1RZ
Holiday Inn Bristol City Centre, Bond Street, Bristol, BS1 3LE

10 and 11 November
Shire Hall, Warwick, CV34 4SA
Alverton Manor Hotel, Tregolls Road, Truro, Cornwall, TR1 1ZQ
BW Gonville Hotel, Gonville Place, Cambridge, CB1 1LY

14 and 15 November
County Buildings, Martin Street, Stafford, ST16 2LH
The Civic Centre, Barras Bridge, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 8QH
De Vere Royal Bath, Bath Road, Bournemouth, Dorset, BH1 2EW
Edinburgh City Chambers, High Street, EH1 1YJ

16 November
New Lanark World Heritage Site, ML11 9DB

17 and 18 November
The Guildhall, High Street, Exeter, EX4 3EB
St George Hotel, Durham Tess {sic} Valley Airport, Darlington, Co Durham, DL2 1RH

22 November
Teacher Building, St Enoch Square, Glasgow, G1 4DB


24 November
Town House, High Street, Inverness, IV1 1JJ

29 November
City Chambers, 14 City Square, Dundee, DD1 3BY






580  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / New British £50 banknote introduced 2nd November on: October 04, 2011, 12:40:28 am


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The Bank of England announced on Friday that the new note, replacing one featuring the first governor of the Bank of England, Sir John Houblon, will go into circulation on 2 November. It also pointed out that it will be the first note to feature two men on the reverse

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Matthew Boulton.... was an English manufacturer and business partner of Scottish engineer James Watt. In the final quarter of the 18th century the partnership installed hundreds of Boulton & Watt steam engines, which were a great advance on the state of the art, making possible the mechanisation of factories and mills. Boulton applied modern techniques to the minting of coins, striking millions of pieces for Britain and other countries, and supplying the Royal Mint with up-to-date equipment.


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James Watt....was a Scottish inventor and mechanical engineer whose improvements to the Newcomen steam engine were fundamental to the changes brought by the Industrial Revolution in both the Kingdom of Great Britain and the world.

While working as an instrument maker at the University of Glasgow, Watt became interested in the technology of steam engines. He realised that contemporary engine designs wasted a great deal of energy by repeatedly cooling and re-heating the cylinder. Watt introduced a design enhancement, the separate condenser, which avoided this waste of energy and radically improved the power, efficiency, and cost-effectiveness of steam engines. He developed the concept of horsepower.[2]

The SI unit of power, the watt, was named after him.
581  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 18, 2011, 01:32:58 am
Looking at all the regions now, I think some will be completely changed, not a single proposal will remain

There are some regions where I suspect the changes will be only minimal or not changed at all - I'm going to predict that Eastern England, East Midlands and North East England are falling in this last category.
582  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 14, 2011, 10:04:40 am
Ah really? What info have they given?
583  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 13, 2011, 02:45:39 am
I've just booked myself a seat at the two meetings I need to get to Smiley
584  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 12, 2011, 05:42:05 pm
LOL. The fact that i'm moaning about the fact that my ward doesn't belong in Wallasey is one thing...



They're having a right laugh with that one. Gordon Brown's lost his PPS from Wirral South anyway - nice MP, saw her speak with him on the day of the leadership result before he got to conference.


That is BEAUTIFUL.

Totally unworkable, I mean.  The BCE have done one very good thing - they've managed to do all this without splitting a single ward, anywhere, and that's to be appluaded

However, the consequence is seats like this.

My backyard is Lancashire, where some absolute corkers have been proposed.  Putting Fishwick, one of the most socially and economically challenged wards in England, with the rural expanse of Ribble Valley is tasteless....
585  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 12, 2011, 12:51:52 pm
Wales is going to be fun isn't it Cheesy


We've got all the way to January to wait for them.....
586  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 12, 2011, 12:50:43 pm
I wonder how the many cheerleaders for this idiocy are feeling right now.


I've already answered you elsewhere Wink
587  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 12, 2011, 10:12:35 am
Is that what they've done, call it "Houghton-le-Spring" ?
588  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 12, 2011, 09:58:12 am
They needed to scrap "Rossendale and Darwen". I would not have scrapped it in quite that fashion....
589  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 12, 2011, 09:37:34 am
I have a sneaking suspicion that these proposals will not look anything like this in the end.....
590  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 12, 2011, 09:28:53 am
That's nothing. Their "Leigh" doesn't include.....Leigh.
591  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 12, 2011, 09:14:50 am
The entire thing has been leaked to Guido's "Order Order" website.
592  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 12, 2011, 09:06:37 am
I'm hearing Manchester Central has taken Salford city centre, which if true, is utterly mental.

Leigh (Andy Burnham's seat) is also said to have been split into pieces.
593  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 12, 2011, 08:48:10 am
It is pretty much confirmed that the public release will be at midnight on the BCE website. I suspect they wanted to wait until late morning but that has been scuppered by the leaks and rumours

(about which something interesting might come because the Boundary Commission did warn Party Reps that too many rumours and leaks could mean they're not so friendly towards helping them out again....)

I have a feeling it might crash Tongue

So big question....who wants to do the notionals? Cheesy

I have no doubt it will crash.  Log on at about midnight, it'll go under at five-past....
594  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 12, 2011, 08:44:33 am
Rumours Hazel Blears has lost hers....
595  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 12, 2011, 08:25:06 am
It is pretty much confirmed that the public release will be at midnight on the BCE website. I suspect they wanted to wait until late morning but that has been scuppered by the leaks and rumours

(about which something interesting might come because the Boundary Commission did warn Party Reps that too many rumours and leaks could mean they're not so friendly towards helping them out again....)
596  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 12, 2011, 08:01:37 am
Other rumours leaking out -

*"Doesn't look good for Tim Farron" according to Paul Waugh

"Greater Manchester to cause a stir"

The MP for Brigg and Goole,  a former teacher, has tweeted a request for any teaching jobs.....
597  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 12, 2011, 07:15:31 am
MPs have been queing up like students on exam day waiting for their results

Some leaks are coming out from this (as they would)

Gloucester city centre moved into Forest of Dean

And this from journalist Paul Waugh

"paulwaugh
Paul Waugh

Sounds like Vince Cable's Twickenham seat being merged with Zac's Richmond Park: cd spell end of St Vince
43 seconds ago • reply • retweet • favourite
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598  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: No more Scottish Tories? on: September 12, 2011, 06:18:18 am
I tried to watch Murdo's speech on YouTube the other night. His opening jokes.....bombed, frankly. His approach is interesting - lots of "centre right alternative" and "progressive..."


If it didn't sound so clunky, then "Scottish Progressive and Unionist Party" could just about work. If I was in marketing, I'd go for "Progressive Scotland"....
599  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Let the great boundary rejig commence on: September 12, 2011, 05:39:49 am
The Boundary Commission for England are:


1) Giving MPs and party machines an embargoed preview of their proposals today
2) Announcing the proposals on their website tomorrow


The Boundary Commission for Scotland are:

1) Announcing their proposals on 13 October.


The Boundary Commission for Wales are:

1) Waiting until January 2012

The Boundary Commission for Northern Ireland are:

1) Apparantly not bothering with updating us about anything.
600  General Politics / International General Discussion / Quality of Life Index 2011 on: August 17, 2011, 12:58:12 am
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