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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Should people who oppose gay marriage be banned from this forum? on: Today at 06:45:32 am
No of course not. If we don't just want to become another echo chamber like free republic or democratic underground we can't just randomly start to ban people based on their opinion on certain issues.

That being said, I fully support calling people like Hifly out on their overt bigotry towards other people.   
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Belgian elections, 2014 on: July 31, 2014, 08:50:47 am
How's the government formation coming along. The current government has a renewed majority, has it not? So I'm guessing the likliest result is that they will continue?

Nope, it looks like it will be a so-called Swedish Coalition with N-VA + CD&V + Open Vld + MR with Kris Peeters from CD&V as PM. The outcome is quite closely intertwined with the government formation in Vlaanderen where N-VA + CD&V + Open Vld will form the new government with Geert Bourgeois from N-VA as Minister-President.

Both the social democrat parties lost votes at the election, so they might not be completely dissatisfied with relinquishing some of the responsibility. Furthermore, MR demanded joining the Wallonie government if they were to continue in federal government with the two other Wallonian parties PS and cdH. PS rejected this and the new Wallonie, and CommunautÚ Franšaise government is therefore only made up of PS and cdH with Paul Magnette and Rudy Demotte from PS as Minister-Presidents.
cdH refused to participate in the centre-right government, probably mainly due to the presence of the Flemish nationalists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Belgian_government_formation

Facinating! Good thing it didn't take them as long time as four years ago. 
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Belgian elections, 2014 on: July 31, 2014, 07:11:21 am
How's the government formation coming along. The current government has a renewed majority, has it not? So I'm guessing the likliest result is that they will continue?

4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: Fox News national: Clinton leads Bush, Christie, Kasich, & Paul by double digits on: July 29, 2014, 04:51:34 pm
But, but... what about Benghazi?? :O 
5  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Which of these countries legalize gay marriage before 2020? (poll) on: July 28, 2014, 07:17:57 pm
Yeah... I'm almost... like 99,9999999%, certain that Sweden will legalize it before 2020... like maybe in.... I don't know.... May 2009?!?!?! Just a theory. Tongue

6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election 2015 on: July 27, 2014, 06:38:02 am
Does that mean that Miliband's future son/daughter-in-law will become President of the European Council?
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election 2015 on: July 25, 2014, 06:38:44 pm
Didn't the Centre Party in Sweden used to be called the Agrarian party or the Farmer's party or something like that? i know that the Moderate Party in Sweden used to be called the Right Party.


I know that in this day an age people think that winning elections is all about new imaginative campaign slogans and flashy websites... but no one really cares about that. People will vote for Labour if they agree with their policies, think they have a competent leadership, and hate the Tories. Calling them the Progressive Party, or the Blueberry Party, or We-Hate-The-Tory-Party Party, would make zero, zilch, nada difference. None what so ever! If any affect, it would be confusing a few pensioners who'd be wondering what happened to the party they were planning to vote for.


Yeah, its a bit ironic this comment was made by a Swedish poster, since all their three historical centre-right parties have changed their names (from ideological or occupational names to wishy-washy names like centre, moderates and peoples party).

Generally centre-right parties are more likely to change their names completely than SDs.

The People's Party have been called the People's Party since it's foundation in 1934 when it's two predecessors merged, and one of those predecessors were called the People's Party even before that, so I'm not sure where Politicus gets the idea that they've changed their name from.

But the two of you remember correctly about C and M of course. They both changed their names in the 60's. The Farmer League becoming The Centre Party was arguably a rare case of a good name change.

As for The Right becoming the Moderates, that if anything just proves my point. That name change happened so that the party would seem more centrist and inclusive, and it didn't work a single bit. The name change didn't change people's perception of them, instead it changed the meaning of the word Moderate in Swedish to mean centre-right instead of its original meaning.       
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What is your dream job? on: July 25, 2014, 12:06:48 pm
Doctor Who companion...

You win this thread.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama vs impeachment on: July 25, 2014, 11:39:37 am
He thinks, he is God.

Nah, God can't change the laws of the US. The whole separation of church and state thing you know. I'd rather say that he thinks he is the supreme court.     
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama vs impeachment on: July 25, 2014, 11:36:36 am
This is as valid of an opinion as it was 8 years ago.

No, an 8-year-old's opinion would be of much more value than this.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Hillary our future President? on: July 25, 2014, 11:33:13 am
Yes, because she won't give up until she succeeds. And you lot won't shut up about it until she does. 
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election 2015 on: July 25, 2014, 11:13:30 am
The Labour Party won 43,2% of the popular vote, and 418 of the parliamentary seats, as recently as 1997. I seriously doubt most of their voters then were old blue-collar factory workers or miners.

I know that in this day an age people think that winning elections is all about new imaginative campaign slogans and flashy websites... but no one really cares about that. People will vote for Labour if they agree with their policies, think they have a competent leadership, and hate the Tories. Calling them the Progressive Party, or the Blueberry Party, or We-Hate-The-Tory-Party Party, would make zero, zilch, nada difference. None what so ever! If any affect, it would be confusing a few pensioners who'd be wondering what happened to the party they were planning to vote for.

Sigh, there are few things that annoy me quite as much as changing things that that work just for the sake of change with-out reflection on wether the change is actually for the better. As if change in itself is suppose to have some sort self-worth. Roll Eyes


RedEd has disappointed me, for example, by overseeing to rename the outdated label "Labour" into "Progressives" or "Democrats". And with 100% I knew 2010, that the LDs in coalition would be halved, but with 70% I expected its left wing to depart from Liberals&coalition - also a missed chance!

Really? Your biggest beef with Ed is that he didn't throw out a well established brand name for some flashy new flavour of the month?

It's not my biggest problem with him, I just mentioned it ex grege.
But "Labour" is old-fashioned and fits now better to the blue-collarish BNP.
"Progressives" is exactly the counterpart to "Conservatives" and means exactly that the LEFT stands for (20.century WhiteWorkingClass, now Immigrants/CivilServants/Students/UnEmployed/NonWorkers/...).
     

Also, please, I ask politely of you... if you're gonna continue using weak arguments, and say things such as "Labour fits better for the BNP" and thereby implying, rather offensively, that most blue-collar workers are racist, I would kindly ask you to learn how to quote properly, so that it doesn't look as if it were I, or anyone else, who wrote it. Now that would be progressive. Thank you. 
 
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election 2015 on: July 25, 2014, 01:48:32 am
RedEd has disappointed me, for example, by overseeing to rename the outdated label "Labour" into "Progressives" or "Democrats". And with 100% I knew 2010, that the LDs in coalition would be halved, but with 70% I expected its left wing to depart from Liberals&coalition - also a missed chance!

Really? Your biggest beef with Ed is that he didn't throw out a well established brand name for some flashy new flavour of the month? Are? You? For? Real?

I'm not one to give voters as a group credit especially often, but no voter is actually deluded enough to base their vote on whether a party is named Labour, or Progressive. The day anyone actually does that is the day we should abolish democratic elections and return to dictatorships.

SD parties just don't change their names
   

It's not just Social Democratic parties. Lets not forget that your major centre-right party is still called "The Left" and your centrist party "The Radical Left". Wink
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election 2015 on: July 24, 2014, 07:48:21 pm
With "BigBrother" (=D.M.) a LAB-victory were inevitable.

Ed is a rather unimpressive leader, I don't think anyone is disputing that, but the only thing were David is actually better than Ed, is that he doesn't have an annoying lisp.

Sure David is everything a dream politician should be, young, serious, experienced, but he's so incredibly cold and stiff. He lacks the quality that every successful politician poses, personality. I mean at least you know there is a human being behind Ed Miliband. With the brother... I'm not so sure.

And had he been leader I'm sure people would hang around here complaining over how much of a better leader Ed would have been.    
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election 2015 on: July 23, 2014, 06:55:50 pm
Yeah, it's number 10 or resign for Miliband.

It's quite intresting how that has become the norm in politics these days. No party today would for example tolerate, as was the case with Niel Kinnock, losing an election and then go on as leader for the next election as well. 
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election 2015 on: July 23, 2014, 06:37:32 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A5kan_Juholt

Would be a non-British example.
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What is your dream job? on: July 23, 2014, 06:33:37 pm
My dream job would be judge. Heck why limit yourself when it's your dream job. I'd want to be a Surpreme Court Justice.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NYC approves apartment building with separate entrance for poor people on: July 22, 2014, 02:22:09 pm
I feel so incredibly Swedish right now, considering that the only gated community I've ever witnessed was Visby's Old Town.



And the gates there haven't actually been closed for centuries. Tongue


Anyway I do have some sympathy with the people who wants separate doors in this case. I wouldn't either want to share an entrance with those sorts of snobby up-tight toffs that feel they need a freakin' doorman. <.<
19  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Ask Hifly on: July 21, 2014, 01:15:34 pm
So if you don't think "redefinition of marriage" has any negative effect on people, why exactly are you against it?
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which Languages Do You Have Knowledge Of on: July 19, 2014, 11:24:29 am
Well I feel that I'm well versed in English for a non-native
Medan svenska såklart är mitt modersmål
Dansk og norsk forstår jeg godt
Und ich spreche ein bisschen Deutsch

So five languages, although it's obviously just the two first ones that I'm fluent in.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Ask Antonio on: July 15, 2014, 04:06:34 pm
Pretty soon I hope! Smiley I've actually wanted to visit the Scandinavians for quite a long time, but as most of my plans these haven't gone very far (my friends were planning a trip to Copenhagen this summer, but they abandoned it Sad). Anyway, I'll keep you up for sure! It will be after the SAP comes back to power, so that's even better. Wink

Nice, Copenhagen is basically just around the corner from where I live.
Haha, well of course, well of course. Wink So maybe next summer then. (You should really avoid it in winter, even when SAP is in government)
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Ask Antonio on: July 15, 2014, 03:42:55 pm
What is your credit card and cvv number?



No but to ask a real question, when are you coming to Sweden so we can bicker about EU federalism over some beer or wine and I give you a tour over my beloved home country's Socialist workings in action?
23  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The Great Nordic Thread on: July 15, 2014, 03:27:01 pm
Also anyone who have followed her career can see she's a ruthless career politicians.

Oh, that part, I wouldn't question for a second.

Except I would say that right now, if she's not elected President of the Council, her chance to be reelected are rather high as the government. She can more or less just wait for the next scandal in Venstre. It doesn't look like there are any negative surprises in the economy, the unemplyment are falling, the economy are growth. So right now it's a waiting game, to see what skeletons are hiding in LLR's closet.

Waiting for what exactly, voters trickling down from Venstre to DF? Because LLR's scandals so far hasn't really seemed to benefit the government much, and with Enhedslisten barking at the Social Democrats' tail it would, to use your own words, be silly and ignorant to think that President of the Council isn't a more safe job to have. Especially since HTS has barely been able to keep her dysfunctional coalition together.

I'm not saying that she couldn't possibly survive if she stayed on. There have been far greater turn-arounds for unpopular incumbant governments in recent history. But her chances would obviously be less than 50%, whereas securing this job would guarantee her five years without having to deal with bickering coalition partners, voters or digging journalists, leaving her free to tour the Union taking selfies with world leaders and getting autographs from the cast of Sex and the City.     
24  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The Great Nordic Thread on: July 15, 2014, 02:37:20 pm
If HTS was after a high paycheck she would not be PM of Denmark. She's in it for the power, as such I have no doubt that she will take the job as President of the European Council, if it's offered to her. But to suggest it's over money is both ignorant and silly. 

Are you trying to channel Frank Underwood?

I'm pretty sure she won't mind either the power or having a salary higher than Obama. Mostly of course she will take the job because staying on as PM would (most likely) lead to her being thrown out next-year, and quitting while ahead by taking a secure guaranteed power position for five years is preferable to humiliation at the ballot box. I too would prefer being the President of the European Council to being leader of opposition in the Folketing salary or no salary.



Why would Cameron want HTS?

I don't know. But it's pretty clear he does want her in a top EU-position.

Thorning-Schmidt's name has been whispered in the corridors of Brussels in recent months, but Kroes' backing is the first public support she has received so far, aside from British Prime Minister David Cameron, who joked recently that he wouldn't officially back her because then she wouldn't get the job.

And before Council President he was touting her as an alternative to Juncker.

No. 10 backs wife of Kinnock's son for top EU-post.

 
 
25  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The Great Nordic Thread on: July 15, 2014, 01:58:21 pm
A 36-year-old prime minister would be pretty damn impressive. Would probably be the youngest Head of Government of a democratic country?
The new Estonian prime minister is even younger. The three newest heads of government in the EU are Renzi (Italy, 39yo), Taavi Roivas (Estonia, 34yo) and Stubb (Finland, 46yo).

We'll probably have to wait the autumn to know whether Helle gets the job at the EU though.

She's apperently the prefered candidate of Merkel, Renzi, and Cameron. (selfie-buddies)
It wouldn't surprise me if it isn't made official until the autumn, but it's pretty clear that she will get a new ridiculously high salary to buy all the fashionables she has ever dream of, and Denmark will get a new likable Prime Minister.  
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