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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: Today at 08:28:49 am
Actively considering moving to Canada.

Stephen Harper approves




Anyway, there's still a week and a half to go, so it isn't quite over just yet, but it's looking increasingly unlikely that the centre-left manages to capture a majority next Sunday.

You know considering the circumstances this isn't shaping up to as horrible an election as I suspected it might be. If only FI could end up just bellow 2,5% as well, I would be sort of satisfied.     
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 30, 2014, 06:22:45 pm
Btw, FI is basically the anti-SD party, even though Reinfeldt would very much like to have Moderaterna as the anti-SD party.

Yes, well obviously. Which is another reason people vote for them, without actually knowing anything about their actual policies. I'm personally very much of the opinion however that one extreme doesn't excuse another. Stalin was the most anti-Hitler, didn't make Stalin into a good leader, now did it.

Churchill was obviously the anti-Hitler. Those not getting that one right obviously don't know much about history. Stalin's policies wasn't anything other than pro-Stalin. That's why he hated all other communists besides himself. That's why he executed so many of his nearest coworkers. Stalin was one of the worst terrorists in the history of humankind, and to claim that Stalin has anything in common with a modern liberal and radical equality party is ludicrous. Stalin would without a doubt have executed Lenin, Marx and Engels too if he got the chance.

1) Communism and Fascism are clearly the two historical antagonists to each other, not Fascism and Conservatism, so don't you come here and try to call me out on my history knowledge.

2) You were clearly missing my point if you thought I were equating FI to Stalin. But you know... since you brought it up, you should probably watch this fun video. Wink   

I might not be to everyone's liking because I'm partisan, but so are at least 90% who write here, you included. I've never taken you very seriously either, as you're obviously a hack for the right wing Alliance. Wink

Oh yes of course... because I obviously never criticize the Alliance on here... and especially not my own party.
 
Also, I wouldn't call myself a conservative either, not sure where you get that impression.

The fact that you disagree with him obviously makes you a Conservative. Tongue
3  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: What's the most boring party in the world? on: August 30, 2014, 05:59:42 pm
I once went to a party where there weren't any alcohol, now that should qualify I think. 
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 30, 2014, 05:55:36 pm
So they're that kind of party, let's hope they don't come in.

Yes, I am certainly hoping they don't.

The hate against FI in this thread is just incredible. If there's one thing Europe clearly lacks - or the world for that matter - it's having more parties like FI.

Obviously the fight against inequality is a very important one, but the policies FI is employing doesn't actually do anything to accomplish that goal. Quite the opposite, it creates unnecessary conflict between the genders and cement certain discriminatory tendencies in society.

It's should also be noted that besides a few of the feminist issues, FI is (policy wise) almost an exact replica of V, except it has V's somewhat self-obsessed, but very charismatic, former leader heading it.

My problem with FI, as a right-winger is obviously that they're a extremist Socialist party, whereas left-wingers who dislike them do so because they're a loony fringe party with policies that annihilate centrist voters, while stealing left-wing voters for no other reason than being trendy.

Obviously you are entitled to your own opinion Eric, and as a trendy hip Oslo hipster, I'm sure FI fits you like a hand in a glove, but we're also allowed to dislike them.

Btw, FI is basically the anti-SD party, even though Reinfeldt would very much like to have Moderaterna as the anti-SD party.

Yes, well obviously. Which is another reason people vote for them, without actually knowing anything about their actual policies. I'm personally very much of the opinion however that one extreme doesn't excuse another. Stalin was the most anti-Hitler, didn't make Stalin into a good leader, now did it.

For me they're the most intellectual, clear-sighted people there is, in sharp contrast to many other parts of society.


...

So this is why no one on this forum seems to take you seriously.


I appriciate much of it, I just don't think the ability to sing, play music, paint or write books, give you any greater political insight. I also think that it take a special kind of narcissism to seek the attention of being an artist, and if you're a successful artist you will spend years with few monetary needs, surrounded by yes men and brown noses. Which is never healthy for how ones political views develop (see Tom Clancy and Jan Guillou), no one develop smart thoughts if everyone keep agreeing with you and tell how right you are.


You know, we've had our arguments in the past (especially considering a certain Danish PM that should not be named) but on this I couldn't have said it better myself.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 29, 2014, 03:59:57 pm
If those results were to be replicated in the election, what would happen. Would the Alliance stay in power with the support of the Sweden Democrats from outside the government, or might one of the Alliance parties cross the floor to support the centre-left instead? Or might Reinfeldt call another election (he's not very friendly to the Sweden Democrats I believe)?

Political chaos and anarchy if you are to believe the Swedish press. Tongue

The current government would be to weak to continue as is. Reinfeldt has had trouble enough these four years governing with two seats short of a majority, governing while being more than 30 seats short of a majority isn't a possible scenario.

Most likely we'll see a left-wing minority government that seeks support across the aisle (Reinfeldt has indicated that he wouldn't vote against Lfvn in a potential confidence vote) or a Social Democratic led government including FP or C.

New elections are basically unheard of in Sweden. Early election has only happened once in last century, and it's nothing any of the parties desire. (At least not this soon after the election)   
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 29, 2014, 03:13:54 pm
New Sifo poll:

S: 29,0% (-1,9%) 106 seats
V: 6,1% (-1,4%) 22 seats
MP: 11,0% (+0,7%) 40 seats

M: 22,6% (+0,4%) 82 seats
C: 5,9% (+0,4%) 22 seats
FP: 5,8% (-0,2%) 21 seats
KD: 4,5% (+0,2%) 16 seats

SD: 11,0% (+0,9%) 40 seats
FI: 2,9% (+0,6%) 0 seats


* * * * * * * * *

Alliance - 141 seats
Mushrooms - 163 seats


The left is 7 seats short of an overall majority. HUNG PARLIAMENT!!!

Who'd have ever guessed that Gudrun Schyman would end up as the savior of the right. How long until left-wing people start calling for FI-supporters to abondon the party for tacticaal reasons again... counting down three.. two.. 
 

Considering the rabidness of their core supporters, some (me) might just not bother calling them out, in order to avoid being scathed. Initiate Operation: Subtlety.

Well considering the response Gran Greider got last time he brought up the subject, I wouldn't blame anyone from abstaining from the task.

But it's intresting to note that the scenario he painted up is manifesting itself in front of our very eyes.
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 29, 2014, 02:37:09 pm
New Sifo poll:

S: 29,0% (-1,9%) 106 seats
V: 6,1% (-1,4%) 22 seats
MP: 11,0% (+0,7%) 40 seats

M: 22,6% (+0,4%) 82 seats
C: 5,9% (+0,4%) 22 seats
FP: 5,8% (-0,2%) 21 seats
KD: 4,5% (+0,2%) 16 seats

SD: 11,0% (+0,9%) 40 seats
FI: 2,9% (+0,6%) 0 seats


* * * * * * * * *

Alliance - 141 seats
Mushrooms - 163 seats


The left is 7 seats short of an overall majority. HUNG PARLIAMENT!!!

Who'd have ever guessed that Gudrun Schyman would end up as the savior of the right. How long until left-wing people start calling for FI-supporters to abondon the party for tacticaal reasons again... counting down three.. two.. 
 
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The t_host1 Institute of Comedy on: August 28, 2014, 04:20:40 pm
how to remove a bat from a room ?

Because I wanted to brush my teeth a few minutes ago and somehow a bat was flying around in the baathroom.

I always keep the window open so that the shower dries up quickly and the bat must gave come in at some point.

Its a very stubborn bat and I can't catch it and it wont fly out of the window.

Advice anyone ?

This made my evening.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 27, 2014, 04:12:24 pm
The Gothenburg government is of course the (or at least one of the) worst in the entire country. But that was true four years ago as well, and if we didn't manage to outs them back then, we won't this time either with the national winds. The fact that voting has shifted so little compared to national trends of course still speaks volumes and is bad enough for the Social Democrats. (Still won't stop their mayor from getting a cushy job in the new administration on the national level.)

What surprises me is how badly FI is polling. Seeing as they polled pretty strong for Stockholm City Council, I would have expected they at least would outdo their national polling support here.


I must admit I find the fact that they get more than 1% of the vote amazing, who votes for them?

Pretentious 20-something hipsters who see elections as a chance at making a statement, and not as actually choosing people to govern us for the next four years. They're a fad, and they'll once more disappear into obscurity once they fail to enter parliament in three weeks.

Still, with around 2-3% of the support they should be able to conquer seats at a few City Council besides Schyman's home town of Simrishamn, and Gothenburg should be a prime target, but if they can't muster more than 1,5% in a city that brim with their target audience, they're becoming irrelevant even faster than I'd have expected them to. 
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 27, 2014, 03:07:58 am
The Gothenburg government is of course the (or at least one of the) worst in the entire country. But that was true four years ago as well, and if we didn't manage to outs them back then, we won't this time either with the national winds. The fact that voting has shifted so little compared to national trends of course still speaks volumes and is bad enough for the Social Democrats. (Still won't stop their mayor from getting a cushy job in the new administration on the national level.)

What surprises me is how badly FI is polling. Seeing as they polled pretty strong for Stockholm City Council, I would have expected they at least would outdo their national polling support here.
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 24, 2014, 06:54:08 pm
OK, guys, stop this. Danish and Swedish media both love to score cheap points through demonizing the other country, which affects our relations negatively. No need to keep that demonization rolling. There are things both countries can learn from each other.

What are you, a Dane?

Nah, more like a Scanian. A real Dane would not have admitted Denmark can learn anything from Sweden.

Never! A true Scanian such as myself would call both Danes and Swedes deluded and moronic. We just want our independence from the both of you.

The obvious answer is that Tayya is Norwegian. There's no point denying it! There's astounding proof of this theory, such as the fact that he didn't make a single forum post on May 17th! Now that can only mean one thing:

 
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather live in London or Stockholm? on: August 24, 2014, 06:36:53 pm
How from Scania's perspective is Stockholm the "backside of the country"? Again, I don't know Stockholm, but my assumption is it's the NYC of Sweden culturally, artistically, business-wise, etc.

Well lets assume Stockholm is the NYC of Sweden. That would make me a guy from the rural Texas of Sweden currently living in the Austin of Sweden. There right there should explain it all. Wink   
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather live in London or Stockholm? on: August 24, 2014, 05:46:00 pm
London of course. Smiley

Shocked

4 realz SWEDISH Cheese? Huh

He's not from Sweden, he's from Scania.

HE.LL YEAH! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy




Anyway, to clarify, I already live in the greatest city in Sweden, so if I were to move it certainly wouldn't be to the backside of the country, but to some new exciting place like London. Smiley
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 24, 2014, 04:25:27 am
Is there any other good English-speaking site besides this thread here and thelocal.se to follow election news ?

Not any that I know of.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather live in London or Stockholm? on: August 23, 2014, 05:57:39 pm
London of course. Smiley
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 21, 2014, 03:38:47 pm
I don't think anyone genuinely doubts that S, V and MP could make a budget together. The question is what happens if they don't have a majority which is still a feasible scenario. A budget that V is on board with would probably be a hard sell to any of the other parties. This is why S keeps flirting with C/FP.

Indeed, but as long as S/V/MP is bigger than the Alliance they can govern as a minority as long as SD doesn't join an Alliance budget. Finding cross-aisle support for individual policies is also hard but perhaps more doable.

Yeah, that is what it comes down to, and since it's extremely unlikely that SD would all of a sudden do a 180 degree turn and unquestionably vote for an Alliance budget they had no influence on, especially not just a month and a half after the Alliance was just rejected by the voters.   
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 21, 2014, 12:47:00 pm
Meh, the budget thing is mostly concern-trolling from the right to be honest. As is the left's fear that the Alliance will all of a sudden join forces with SD to stay in power no matter what. If Reinfeldt wanted to take that route, he wouldn't make a speech enraging SD-core supporters and even some of his own voters a few weeks before the election. Both claims have little to no basis in reality and are purely tactical talking-points.

The Left is clearly trying to scare working-class people who hate the government into thinking that a vote for SD is a vote for the Alliance in order to keep them in the Labour camp. While the right is trying to continue building on the "The Left won't be able to govern together" narrative they've desperately been trying to push with cake commercials and what not.     

The idea that a S+MP government wouldn't be able to pass a budget all presume two things that are far from certain. 

1) That S+MP doesn't make a budget deal with V, similarly to what Persson made with V and MP 1998-2002. After all V has only said they won't join a government that doesn't ban profits in the welfare sector, not that they will never support their budgets.

2) That the Alliance will keep making a joint budget once they're in opposition. Far from certain. They might very well do it the first budget process after the election, but I have a hard time seeing them keep that up for four years.

Of course, I know that close to election people always like to imagine the worst case scenario, but as long as the relationship between S+MP and V doesn't sour completely before October 1st, it's not going to happen.

18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 21, 2014, 09:37:05 am
Yes, really two worlds apart.

Well really there is Skne inbetween which is something of a mix of the two. Tongue
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 16, 2014, 07:20:48 am
Feminist Initiative is proposing a special tax that only men will have to pay, in order to even out the sallery gap between the genders... FI's leader, Gudrun Schyman, doesn't want to call it a Man Tax though... "That sounds wrong... I prefer the term Equality Tax".

Because nothing quite says equality like having people pay different tax levels based on their gender.

Apperently Schyman thinks this will be a big vote winner. I'm sceptical...
At least S, V, and MP can rejoice that the pink voter leech will have destroyed itself by September 14th.   


 
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 15, 2014, 01:53:32 am
But as the Greens notoriously overpreform in polls  something quite extraordinary would be required for that to happen. (in august 2010 only 2% seperated them from S, but on election day they were 9% behind)

What is the reason for this?

If I was to guess, it'd be young people telling pollsters one thing, then not turning up to vote on the day

That's probably not it, because the Greens tends to over-preform in Exit Polls as well. 
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 11, 2014, 01:48:13 pm
So I have some news. As of today, I am officially employed as Campaign Manager for the Centre Party in a local election close to where I live. So for the upcoming five weeks I'm afraid I'll be working round the clock and won't have very much time to post here. As much as discussing politics on here are great, being paid to work with politics in RL will have to take priority. Wink

However I do believe this thread is in good hands with Tayya.   

Rerevising my prediction to a gov't hold. Margins decreasing, brainwashed faninists not coming around and it's becomkng more and more clear that the right plans to utilize SD to stay in power essentially forever to feed their donors with the ruins of our welfare state.

... or maybe not. <.<


Has Feminist Initiative made a statement on question b) yet ?

Yes, Schyman has said they want the next government be led by Stefan Lfvn. 
22  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: why does America have a Fetish for perfect teeth? on: August 09, 2014, 08:02:51 pm
Just as with the American spelling of the word color, as opposed to the British colour, this has its roots in the American Revolution. You see once the US of fu.ckin' A became an independent country, they were desperate to cut their ties to that old rainy bleak island who'd not so long ago ruled over them. Therefor they decided to get rid of all pesky British things they could find on their continent.

Now what is more British than horrendous teeth? Tea in all honour (or should I say honor) but that's just an Indian import. A crocked brown smile, now there's where real England's at. So as a counter reaction to this all true patriotic Americans became determined to have the straightest, whitest teeth in all of the world.

The great inspiration for this was of course George Washington himself, with his beautiful teeth made of ivory and gold. Of course those British bastards, jealous as always, spread the false myth that the first president had wooden teeth, BUT LET IT BE CLEAR, George Washington had wonderful teeth and he sat the example that all young men and women should follow.

GOD SAVE AMERICA! Cry 
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: 2014 Selfie Creepfest/Post a picture of yourself thread on: August 09, 2014, 01:32:27 pm
Me and one of my new best friends.


24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: I wrote and directed my own movie. on: August 09, 2014, 01:25:26 pm
I was expecting a short film around 15-20 min. Doing a full length film is very impressive, something that people will generally have a hard time pulling off without quite some experience, so my hat goes off to you good sir.

I'll try to make time to watch the whole thing soon.   
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: SWEDEN - September 14, 2014 - GUIDE and THREAD on: August 09, 2014, 12:38:04 pm
Do you see the campaign as an interesting one, a balanced one or a dull one ?

It's been incredibly dull so far. But I guess there's still some hope the last month might turn out decently... if very little.

And what do you think turnout will be like ?

From what I remember, it was 84-85% in 2010 ...

Hard to say. If I had to take a guess I'd say that it'll decrease slightly and end up at 81-82%, but that's only my gut feeling.

I really doubt that the Red-Greens will get a majority next month. The Sweden Democrats will probably hold the "balance of power" like last time, but with the Red-Greens as the largest bloc this time around.

As do I. The only real hope for a majority would probably be either if FI imploded completely in the last month, or if they manage to recover and get above 4%. As it is now they leech to many voters that would otherwise vote for S, V, or MP without contributing. If the Alliance increases just as much as 1-2%, getting over the 175 line will be virtually impossible for the Mushrooms. (And in the last six elections, the incumbent government has always improved in the last month)

But of course, just to be clear, there's no knowing what might happen in the end. Elections are... weird. 

Would Reinfeldt try to remain in power in such a scenario, or would he step down?

Reinfeldt has one important advantage, he is in power. A majority in the parliament (riksdag) has to vote against him in a vote of cofidence in order for a change off power. I can not see that SD does this. One possibilty is off course that he resigns.

Four years ago you would have been entirely correct, Fredrik. However as part of the Constitutional Reform of 2010, the constitution now states that a vote of confidence must be held within two weeks of the opening of parliament. Meaning that Reinfeldt won't be able to just skate by the same way he did four years ago. (6:e kap. 3 Regeringsformen

And even if the government could theoretically survive a vote of confidence thanks to enough MPs voting abstain, they will not be able to pass a budget unless they're bigger than S+V+MP. Meaning they'd just get outsed a month later.

So in all likelihood Reinfeldt will resign, allowing Lfvn an attempt to form government, which he most likely will succeed with thanks to abstaining right-wingers. That being said, without a majority Lfvn will be greatly wing-clipped and will either have to cross the aisle or rely on SD support to push through reforms, which will limit the amount of damage his government can do.     
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