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76  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Do you support gay marriages? on: July 26, 2015, 07:05:00 pm
I'm sure God has more important things on her mind though.

Nah, world famine and wars can wait, someone is having butt sex while eating shrimp. Shocked
77  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The Big Bad Swedish Politics & News Thread on: July 26, 2015, 05:52:28 pm
I must admit I really don't get what people see or saw in FI, maybe it's just because while I read Swedish newspapers once in a while, I don't follow the Swedish debate enough. I usual get somewhat what people see in parties, even if I disagre with them, but FI just seemed weird.

Well basically they gather the people of the bohemian culture elite such as artists, writers and musicians and their wannabes as well as other inner-city hipsters who are too sane to be Autonomist Marxists, but who find that the Greens and the Left Party has become too realistic and middle-ground and wants something more ideological. So their appeal is as an ideological, outsider, anti-establishment party on the left that isn't so crazy that they actually wants to kill their opposition. I'd guess it's the same sort of people that would vote for the Alternative in Denmark.   

Of course this only appeals to a rather minor group of people, and they are in the long run unsustainable as a national party. Most of their realistic and doable policies such as affirmative action are already the policies of the Greens and/or the Left Party while their more out-there policies such as all vegan food in schools, man-tax, and abolishing the military has minimal appeal in the general public. Lets not forget that they only mustered a bare 3,1% in support with a large number of tactical voters.

Their entry into the European Parliament was, much like the entry of the Pirate Party in '09, in large parts due to a perfect storm of circumstances working out in their favour; which all began in late 2013 and early 2014 with a series of high profile rape court cases, were the accused rapists were all acquitted on technicalities, which raised old questions about abuse of women and equality.
78  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The Big Bad Swedish Politics & News Thread on: July 25, 2015, 09:32:53 am
Sentio, who only base their polls on web panels, are also known for constantly showing the Sweden Democrats with significantly higher numbers than other polling companies

Other polling companies has constantly underestimated SD, so I wouldn't trust other polling companies.
79  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: POST HERE IF YOU WANT TO BE CONSIDERED AS A MOD on: July 20, 2015, 11:52:26 am
You should just lock the entire 2016 board until the eve of the Iowa caucuses.
80  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The Great Nordic Thread on: July 19, 2015, 01:29:26 pm
Another initiative that has been gathering steam is an initiative calling for a referendum on Finland's membership in the Eurozone; in only three days it has gathered 40% of the signatures needed.

What happened to the Initiative about getting rid of mandatory Swedish? Voted down, or not taken up yet?

81  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Austrian Elections & Politics on: July 19, 2015, 02:31:05 am
Even if the SP completely crashes though, there surely can't be a non-SP government? As I understand it the only ones who might be in favour to work with FP in Vienna is VP, and even that is questionable, right? Say the SP goes down to 30% in the election, wouldn't SP+GR+NEOS be the only logical coalition?
82  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Affirmative Consent Laws on: July 15, 2015, 04:50:21 am
Often what is flawed about affirmative consent proposals is that they are vague on how they are all that different from established consent law, introduce a lot of subjective interpretation to an issue where present law is fairly clear cut (though difficult to determine for obvious reasons), and subverted just as easily as current consent laws: lying. Due to all of this they just sort of strike me as the sort of laws you implement in a "We must do better!" moral panic and don't really think them through very clearly.


I obviously agree that there should be an expression of consent to initiate some sort of sexual interaction but am uncomfortable about explicit verbal statements of consent being the only way. It ignores a lot of the way that we as humans communicate. Body language, nodding the head, and shouldn't you being the one initiating the act be implicit interest in the activity? And there are people with disabilities that have difficulty with speech, or the deaf. There are a lot of things that complicate that being the only standard.

^And this^

I basicly agree with everything Marokai has written on this topic so far.
83  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Eurofederalism on: July 13, 2015, 09:43:03 am
My contemt for it should be pretty known at this point, as I've clashed with Antonio over it quite a few times on here.
84  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Next Greek legislative election (in light of recent events) on: July 13, 2015, 07:21:35 am


There's actually a split in the anarchist movement on voting, I personally tend to support voting to improve the conditions of the working class until a revolution can occur, though I still don't support Anarchists entering the State or other reactionary institutions.

You fool! There can never be any improvments to the conditions of the working class through the capitalist enabeling that is parliamentry democracy. All such improvments are merely an illusion. The only way to improve anything for the working class is a revolution, and legitimizing the corrupt political system through voting will only delay true revolution!
85  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Do you ever have weird personal feelings of irrendentism? on: July 13, 2015, 07:11:20 am
That would be well weird/amusing. Lots of non-Swedish speaking friends would suddenly live in Sweden and I would be from Denmark. The True Finns would be active in Sweden whilst the Sweden Democrats would be strongest in Denmark..

I'm certain most of the Sweden Democratic voters  in Skne and Blekinge would be happy to vote for the Danish People's Party if that happened. Tongue
86  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek Referendum on IMF/Troika deal on: July 13, 2015, 06:58:04 am
You should all read this article. It's the greatest in-look I've gotten on the Tsipras' government and the negociation process.

The question I have though, if Tsipras was not going to go for Varoufakis plan, Whyred did he call the referendum?
87  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek Referendum on IMF/Troika deal on: July 13, 2015, 04:56:38 am
Will he be able to get the deal through in Parliament without causing the collapse of his government though? I guess Tsipras could survive losing ANEL, but if large chunks of his own party starts to fall off he's in deep sh.it
88  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: EU population estimates for 2015 out (EUROSTAT): 508.2 million people on: July 12, 2015, 04:49:08 pm
So were Turkey to be included as a new EU member, they might demand the same number of Europarlamentarians as Germany, at 99.

The EU will never actually accept Turkey as a member, and with the mess the EU is in at the moment I'm not sure Turkey even wants it any longer.
89  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek Referendum on IMF/Troika deal on: July 12, 2015, 04:34:14 pm
I'm going to do something I don't do often and come to Greece's defense. Though I'm greatly sympathetic to the North and East Europeans having a hard time trusting the Greek government's intentions, and not wanting to force their taxpayers to pour even more money into Greece, Tsipras has in the last days shown great will to compromise and has streched himself beyond what anyone thought he'd ever be willing to do. Pragmatism should be met with pragmatism. 

Though I still maintain that I believe that the best thing for Greece in the long run would be to leave the Euro, and be able to retake control of their own monetary policy, Tsipras has shown that it's not the road he wants to take and he seems to be willing to go to great lengths to stay in the Euro. Therefore the creditors should meet them half-way.

Of course, the reforms should be passed at the quickest possible speed in order for Greece to not backpaddle once they get the money.

GDP per capita

Greece 21,653
Slovakia 18,454

Yes "self-righteous pricks".

I guess they won't be satisfied until Greece's GDP per capita drops below theirs. At the current rate, it should only take a couple years.

Really?! A poor but responsible country should pay for a more wealthy but wasteful one. You cannot be serious. Does Greece have an inherent right to be better of than Slovakia even though Slovakia is being responsible with their economy when Greece is not? If this is modern Socialism, I really understand why you guys can't win an election outside of Greece to save your lives.   
90  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek Referendum on IMF/Troika deal on: July 11, 2015, 12:38:08 am
So in the end only KKE and the Nazis voted no, and governmental opposition amounted to nothing more than a few abstentions.
91  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Austrian Elections & Politics on: July 10, 2015, 01:42:10 pm
Why do you think people with migration background are voting for a party that is anti-immigrant ?

Not all immigrants like other immigrants
92  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek Referendum on IMF/Troika deal on: July 10, 2015, 10:15:12 am
I'd like to see figures from the other so-called PIIGS (and Cyprus).

Yeah me too. Unfortunately these were the only numbers I could find. :/
93  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek Referendum on IMF/Troika deal on: July 10, 2015, 09:45:42 am

So we are apparently more pro-Troika in Sweden than they are in Germany. Who would have guessed.
94  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: looks like Tsipras has folded on: July 10, 2015, 06:32:31 am
Oh you guys!

Tsipras is not a magician. As much as you wish it, he can't just swish a wand around and all of a sudden turn fantasy into reality. The overwhelming majority of EU governments support the current cause of affairs, and Tsipras wasn't all of a sudden going to turn the minds of all those savvy politicians.

He always had just two roads he could take. He could either work with the creditors or he could leave the Euro. The ideas that he'd manage to get bailed out by Russia, or that the CJEU would declare it illegal for Greece to leave the Euro has always been smokes and mirrors.

Faced with the stark reality of either leaving the common currency or get a deal with the creditors, he clearly decided that a deal was the thing that would hurt the country least. Now from the anti-austerity perspective the deal isn't all as terrible as you make it out to be, it says that there has to be debt write-downs, something the creditors might actually agree to considering what Tsipras is willing to to restructure and save more than they initially asked for. Now I hope that there is still enough good will between Greece and Germany for this to actually amount to something.

95  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek Referendum on IMF/Troika deal on: July 08, 2015, 08:31:05 am
I want to see Merkel et al go ahead and try to kick Greece out of the Eurozone... only for the European courts to overrule it for violating their treaties with Greece

I would be careful to count the CJEU as opponents of either Grexit or austerity. Juncker, Tusk, and Merkel wouldn't throw around the threat of Grexit unless their legal advisers have a strong case for its legality. The court has already shown itself to be willing to accept questionable interpretations of the treaties if it is the pragmatic thing to do, and they are much more likely to be favorable to Merkel than to Tsipras .   
96  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Sex work on: July 08, 2015, 03:38:38 am
I find it incredibly interesting from a Swedish perspective that in the US the left and right position on this is reversed compared to Sweden. Over here the left would decry you as the worst sort of neoliberal who sees women's bodies as trading goods if you supported legalizing this. Heck large part of the left doesn't even want to allow surrogate mothers, because it is rich couples "buying" poor women's wombs.
97  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: So, when will Bernie Sanders start to overtake Hillary Clinton ... on: July 07, 2015, 07:46:16 am
He already has! The POLLS ARE A LIE! D: D: D:
98  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek Referendum on IMF/Troika deal on: July 05, 2015, 06:29:33 pm
There's so much crying, hyperbole and wishful-thinking from both sides in this thread which sorts of clouds the discussion of what the consequences of this will actually be.

Some people, just like in January, seem to have the silly idea that this all of a sudden will change the position of the Troika, or that Renzi, or good gracious Hollande for that matter, will swoop in and stand up to the "German tyrants" (or whatever some people in this thread would call them) just because they have finally heard the Greek voices loud and clear. Everybody knew that the Greeks don't like austerity measures before, in that regard, nothing has changed. The bottom line is still where it was a week ago. So everybody who now expects a cushy deal for Greece are self-delusional.

Now I wouldn't say this must mean the end for Greek participation in the Euro, as I could still imagine a potential deal which would satisfy and save the face of both sides... but it probably will be the end. Everybody who has read between the lines knows that the real question being asked in this referendum, and the reason Tsipras felt the need of it, is to have a mandate to leave the monetary part of the union if he couldn't get a favourable deal enough.

So Greece will probably be forced to leave the Euro. Which I think will be best for the Greek people in the long run. Sure, there will be economic chaos and turmoil which will hurt like hell, and many Greeks will unfortunately get squeezed by it and suffer, but it gives Greece the chance to get in control of their own monetary policy once more, which is necessary if there is ever to be a true recovery. You see, as much as I disagree with the so-called anti-austerity folk I agree with them on one thing, it is not possible for Greece to exit this crisis if the decisions are taken above their heads by other people. They themselves must be the people behind the steering wheel, not the Troika. But for that to happen they must leave the Euro behind.

So at the end of the day, I think what this vote actually means, is a nail in the coffin of the deadly idea of European federalism. And as such, I think it's the best result for all of Europe.       

99  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Russia publically wonders if it legally still owns Baltics on: July 01, 2015, 09:06:32 am
Public opinion in Germany and France might not favour military action against Russia at the moment, but it most certainly will if Russia invades NATO and European Union territory. 
100  General Politics / Economics / Re: Greece to Leave the Euro Zone on: June 29, 2015, 08:01:41 am
Why does leaving the Eurozone have any connection with Greece in the EU? There are plenty of other EU nations not on the Euro.

Because, if I understand things correctly, the only legal mechanism for a Eurozone member to leave the Eurozone is to leave the EU altogether.

There is no mechanism to leave the EU as a whole either, so it's a correct but rather moot point.
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