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1  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: Westman, Part II: The Rising on: Today at 05:13:38 pm
I'll have to go back and look.

Same here, lol.
2  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: Just Like Harry Auldman's Blues on: Today at 05:11:46 pm
You can do whatever I want Tongue
3  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of John L. Lewis on: Today at 02:50:05 pm
I voted HP by mistake, because I thought you meant Congressman John Lewis.
Why hate John Lewis? He was a civil rights activist, and since you claim to love civil rights for Minorities so much.

BUT HE'S A DEMOCRAT!
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The official Oldiesfreak thread on: Today at 02:49:29 pm
As I believe Cathcon said in my poll on Vito Marcantonio, communist tool.  HP.
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Hendrik Verwoerd on: Today at 02:47:52 pm
Pure evil. (normal)

Definitely an HP. but not pure evil.  From what I can tell, he never was of the "Whites are the master race and deserve to rule" school.  Rather, his philosophy was more "Whites are a minority in South Africa and we need to take steps to keep our cultural group in charge."

Yes - he wanted whites in charge of a large white area, but it seems in charge of black South Africans only temporarily.  He wanted ultimately self-determination for the Bantustans even while the conditions of that separation were extremely unequal and violently enforced.

I can't see how this justify anything. Not that I accuse you of justyfying him, just saying.
6  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of S. I. Hayakawa on: Today at 02:46:07 pm
I'm not a big fan of his "English as official language" ideas.
7  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Eugene Debs on: Today at 02:44:54 pm
As I believe Cathcon said in my poll on Vito Marcantonio, communist tool.  HP.

...

You're not only unintelligent. Your ignorance is just astonishing.
8  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: A Perfect Patricide on: Today at 02:40:16 pm
Unconstitutional Privileges Removal Act

The Unconstitutional Privileges Removal Act of 1981 was a major piece of legislation that abolished tribal sovereignty in the Indian reservations, while retaining them as a pure formality. Proposed by President D'Israeli shortly after taking office, it was introduced by Senator Jesse Helms (R-NC) and Representative Paolo Merconti (R-NE), and passed narrowly, probably due to a jump in the President's popularity after an unsuccessfull assassination attempt. The Supreme Court upheld it's constitutionality in Dent v. D'Israeli decision.

During his campaign D'Israeli, then Senator from Wyoming, attacked the tribal sovereignty as "enclaves of state-sponsored socialism within the free land". Senator Scott Westman (D-MT), himself a half-Comanche, called the act "the greatest crime since Indian removal".

The passing was followed with a frequent FBI and ATF raids. While older generation of Native American leaders called for a peaceful resistance, many younger activist restored to an underground struggle, proclaiming the Plains Confederacy, recognized only by Libya.
9  General Politics / Individual Politics / Opinion of Hendrik Verwoerd on: Today at 10:00:50 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendrik_Verwoerd

I'm curious in anybody here can seriously defend this guy.
10  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: A Perfect Patricide on: Today at 07:57:12 am
Governors of Alabama

30th: Braxton B. Dent (D), 1896-1900
31st: William J. Samford (D), 1900-1901
32nd: William D. Jelks (D), 1901-1907
30th: Braxton B. Dent (D), 1907-1911
33rd: Emmet O'Neal (D), 1911-1915
34th: Charles Henderson (D), 1915-1919
35th: Thomas Kilby (D), 1919-1923
36th: William W. Brandon (D), 1923-1927
37th: Bibb Graves (D), 1927-1931
38th: Benjamin M. Miller (D), 1931-1935
37th: Bibb Graves (D), 1935-1939
39th: Frank M. Dixon (D), 1939-1943
40th: Chauncey Sparks (D), 1943-1947
41st: Jim Folsom (D), 1947-1951
42nd: Olin J. Dent (D), 1951-1955
41st: Jim Folsom (D), 1955-1959
43rd: John M. Patterson (D), 1959-1963
44th: George C. Wallace (D), 1963-1967
45th: Lurleen B. Wallace (D), 1967-1968
46th: Albert P. Brewer (D), 1968-1971
44th: George C. Wallace (D), 1971-1975
47th: Fob James (DFS), 1975-present


United States Senators from Alabama

Class 2:

John H. Bankhead (D), 1907-1920
Braxton B. Dent (D), 1920
J. Thomas Heflin (D), 1920-1931
John H. Bankhead II (D), 1931-1946
George R. Swift (D), 1946
John J. Sparkman (D), 1946-1972

John J. Sparkman (TD), 1972-1979
Howell Heflin (DFS), 1979-present

Class 3:

James L. Pugh (D), 1880-1897
Absalom W. Dent (D), 1897-1908
Joseph F. Johnston (D), 1908-1914
Francis S. White (D), 1914-1915
Oscar W. Underwood (D), 1915-1927
Hugo Black (D), 1927-1937
Dixie B. Graves (D), 1937-1938
J. Lister Hill (D), 1938-1968

Jefferson Dent (R), 1969-1970
Jefferson Dent (FS), 1970-1971
Jefferson Dent (DFS), 1971-present
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Is the party i made a Nazi Party on: Today at 07:43:42 am
What the fyck is this thread about?
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Prison Reform Act of 2013 (Amendment at Vote) on: Today at 07:37:15 am
Nay
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do the people that accused me of being a sock account owe me a slight apology? on: Today at 07:34:36 am
These accusations were inane

Learn how to spell, Mr. English Is My First Language.
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Mt. Atlasmore Act (At Final Vote) on: Today at 06:02:47 am
Sorry, but nay
15  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: A Perfect Patricide on: June 17, 2013, 09:21:06 pm
Road to the Democratic-Free Soil

Though a pioneer of the New Left in national politics, Dent's coalition in the state was dubbed as "the new readjusters", referring to the turbulent reconstruction era, when block of enfranchised Blacks and populist-minded whites took the power from the wealthy interests.

Having been kicked out from the Republican caucus in early 1970, Dent along with his statewide allies moved into establishing the Free Soil Party, effectively establishing a three party system in Alabama, while becoming caucused with the national Democrats in Senate.

In order to stop Wallace's comeback in 1970, Free Soilers supported incumbent Governor Albert Brewer. However, in a two-way race Wallace secured a narrow victory.

After the defeat, Free Soilers and Alabama loyalist Democrats, led by Chairman Vance, decided it's time to join forces and the Alabama Democratic-Free Soil Party was born in March 1971 (similarly to the Minnesota DFL, a state branch of the national party), establishing Dent and Vance as co-rulers of the dominant political machine in the state.

Defeat and Victory

During the 1972 senatorial primary, Wallace supporters railled behind incumbent John J. Sparkman, while the Free Soilers rooted for Brewer. The Republican Party, weakened by the traditionalist defections, ran former Postmaster General and political moderate Winton Blount.

Brewer captured closely contested nomination, but, in another pararel, Sparkman's supporters refused to concede and ran him under the "True Democratic" banner. President Nixon, who'd sweep Alabama in presidential race, worked hard to sabotage Blount's campaign, which has very little chances of succeeding, in order to aid Sparkman, who won by 6%

Payback time came two years later, with Nixon being crushed by the Watergate and Dent, now Chairman of the DSCC, being one of key players in these events. With no Republican opposing his reelection bid, he ran a freaking football hero, Fob James, as Wallace's successfull opponent in the primary.

After Wallace's ultimate defeat, the DFS firmly established itself as a dominant party in Alabama, with former Governor's allies defeating to GOP, which, in order to have better appeal for newcomers, changed it's name to Jeffersonian Democratic Party.

In 1976 Dent succeeded Vance as the DFS Chairman.
16  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: A Perfect Patricide on: June 17, 2013, 09:01:17 pm
A Struggle Within Democratic Machine

Although George Wallace has been seen as an undisputed king of Alabama electoral politics since his election in 1962, he never did control Alabama Democratic Party machine. His states' rights faction was in a constant battle with national party loyalists, led by a very effective state party chairman, Robert S. Vance, future U.S. federal judge.

Wallace, however, scored a significant victory during his third party presidential campaign in 1968, when he, not Vice President Humphrey, was an official Democratic nominee in Alabama.

Some party loyalists countered with forming a so-called Alabama National Democratic Party to provide Humphrey with ballot access. Yet, due to ANDP's predominately African American character, they failed to gain traction among white electorate. Wallace went on to victory in expected landslide.

Republican/National Democratic Alliance

The 1968 Senate election was a weird parallel of the presidential result. Though six years before conservative Republican James D. Martin came pararysly close to unseat veteran incumbent J. Lister Hill, the Alabama GOP has very little hopes for winning the seat this time.

While Republicans made tremendous gains in the Deep South due to Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign, a state party apparatus was still dominated by traditional Southern GOPers, mostly from the Northern part of Alabama. In result, liberal Jefferson Dent captured the nod with pretty much no competition, since nobody thought it's winnable.

Democrats nominating, after a very divisive primary, a die-hard Dixiecrat and Wallace's ally James B. Allen, posed a great dilemma for the ANDP, which couldn't support him, in spite of "D" letter. At first attorney Ryan DeGraffenried, running as "Independent Democrat" follwing his narrow loss to Allen, appeared to be an attractive alternative, but Dent, through his extensive contacts dating from the civil rights struggle days, was able to win an official ANDP endorsement.

In November Dent won a ridiciously close three way race thanks to the coalition of traditional Republicans, Blacks, part of blue collar voters from the North (splitted with DeGraffenried) and educated urban whites.
17  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: A Perfect Patricide on: June 17, 2013, 03:04:59 pm
Westman: Damn it, he needs to get married ASAP.
Dent: Which one?
Westman: Both mothaf***ers! Can't stand Joe crying each time somebody makes a reference to having three kids.
Dent: I'm sick of Larry's sheep eyes. He used to act perfectly normal before his recent trip to Sydney. By the way, you really f**ked up today.
Westman: What the hell did I do?
Dent: You know which things are not to be mentioned.
Westman: Come on, it's not like you have a bastard kid.
Dent: If I had a bastard kid I wouldn't give damn who knows and who doesn't.
Westman: Does he even exist?
Dent: No, I made the whole thing up to troll you. Geez...
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: MT-SEN: Schweitzer laying groundwork for run on: June 17, 2013, 09:54:06 am
I take Brian over Ma any time.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Lincoln Chafee switches affiliation to Democrat on: June 17, 2013, 09:53:28 am
Chafee was (I suppose) to the Republican Party what Zell Miller was to the Democratic Party or Frank Field is to the Labour Party and John Bercow was (pre-speakership) to the Conservative Party.

Chafee was always more or less an outsider within the GOP. Miller was pretty much ba generic Democrat until 1994, and even after that he remained a loyalist till 2000s (he was considered a possible running mate for Gore).
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of J. William Fulbright on: June 16, 2013, 04:47:18 pm
Total FF on foreign policy and deserved big praise for student exchange program.

Obvious HP on civil rights.

Today Fulbright legacy is largerly positive, so lean FF.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Holidays Act (Amendment at Vote) on: June 16, 2013, 04:17:48 pm
Aye
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Mt. Atlasmore Act (Amendment at Vote) on: June 16, 2013, 04:16:47 pm
For the record, I'm withdrawing my amendment. I'd rather vote this down entirely.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Obama resigns.... on: June 16, 2013, 04:13:09 pm
Is that you, Feeblepizza?
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Comedy Goldmine on: June 16, 2013, 02:41:40 pm
Can't find sulfur mine thread, so brutal ownage of Oldiesfreak by Joe goes here:








25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: MSNBC Labels George Wallace as a Republican on: June 16, 2013, 02:38:54 pm
CONSPIRACY!
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