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101  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Should the Update be closed? on: September 08, 2014, 07:38:56 am
The only thing that can close the Update is Bushie's death.

So in other words it will be closed within 5 years?

They won't admit it, but what would really give them a great kick would be to see this happen.
102  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: CAUTION on: September 08, 2014, 06:21:49 am
This thread has a lot of potential.
103  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: Renegade: The Life and Times of Senator David MacKenzie (R-VT) on: September 08, 2014, 06:20:27 am
Pleasuring yourself is a sin, Oldies.
104  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Should the Update be closed? on: September 07, 2014, 04:38:58 pm
At very least, all Update-related stuff should be contained in one megathread.
105  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Snowstalker v. Latvia and Estonia on: September 07, 2014, 04:38:02 pm
Latvia and Estonia/Latvia and Estonia   

omg people why are you voting for these Nazi-loving apartheid states?? Sad
106  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ukraine Crisis on: September 07, 2014, 04:00:21 pm
Czechoslovakia comparison has one key flaw. There were no nuclear weapons back in the 1930s. If  you think you can have a NATO-Russia clash without someone, at some point, pushing the button, then you're delusional. That's why Putin won't be invading any NATO member state. That's why NATO won't intervene militarily in Ukraine.

I see that for some of you the only sign of "action" would be blowing something up, and whatever  NATO, or the United States, or the European Union are doing, you'd be screaming about appeasement, but there are still many other avenues to stand up to Putin and help Ukraine without playing out to certain posters apocalyptic fantasies.  


I do not want anything blown up - whether with conventional weapons, or with nuclear. Most of all, I do not want Moscow bombed - I have family there. It is precisely because of this, that I firmly believe in most severe non-military measures: these have to be adopted ASAP. Putin should understand that he is facing people who are willing to make it very painful for him, even if it is very costly for them. And if he does not understand this, then those around him should understand it well enough to get rid of him. The half-measures that have been taken up till now make him believe that he is dealing with a bunch of pussies, who will not dare to stop him. Because of this, he will continue pushing forward - until he hits that red line that makes military conflict inevitable. He should be stopped before that - not there. Because once you get to the line, it is too late.

I'm very glad we're in agreement on this.

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Merely the fearfulness of the consequences is not enough to prevent them happening. WWI was called "a war to end all wars" for a reason - everybody KNEW how fearful a modern war would be. Nevertheless, the same generation had to fight another war - much more dreadful than the first.

That is true, however, neither Allies not Axis had a capability of whipping out entire nations by pushing the button. We're living with the nuclear weapons for almost 70 years now and during that time, the humanity faced crisies of far greater magnitude than current Ukraine crisis, yet no one ever dared to cross the line (and it's not like people with cool heads were always in charge).
107  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Snowstalker v. Latvia and Estonia on: September 07, 2014, 02:13:50 pm
Go.
108  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Estonian officer kidnapped by Russians on: September 07, 2014, 02:10:22 pm
The whole official Russian explanation ("captured spying on our soil, equiped with some sort of spying manual, blah, blah") is perhaps the most transparent bull I've ever read.
109  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ukraine Crisis on: September 07, 2014, 02:02:57 pm
Czechoslovakia comparison has one key flaw. There were no nuclear weapons back in the 1930s. If  you think you can have a NATO-Russia clash without someone, at some point, pushing the button, then you're delusional. That's why Putin won't be invading any NATO member state. That's why NATO won't intervene militarily in Ukraine.

I see that for some of you the only sign of "action" would be blowing something up, and whatever  NATO, or the United States, or the European Union are doing, you'd be screaming about appeasement, but there are still many other avenues to stand up to Putin and help Ukraine without playing out to certain posters apocalyptic fantasies. 



110  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Al Realpolitik Institute of Sulfur Mining & Extraction on: September 06, 2014, 07:00:10 pm
Teddy Kennedy, with the most famous family name in Massachusetts,  was able to win a Senate seat in one of the most Democratic states in the nation, a seat held by his very famous brother and President, John F Kennedy, who made it clear he wanted his little brother to inherit the seat.

However, he was not able to defeat the President and Georgia peanut farmer, when it came to running outside his personal little enclave of liberalism and Kennedyism, and wrest the nomination from a bumbling Chief Executive.

Is this supposed to be new information to anyone?
111  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Estonian officer kidnapped by Russians on: September 06, 2014, 05:10:44 pm
Maybe ag is right after all.

Last night I actually had a dream about limited NATO-Russia nuclear exchange.

And since my dreams generally doesn't come true, there won't be a nuclear war.
112  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Teddy Kennedy, 5 years gone on: September 06, 2014, 04:17:07 pm

You seem to have glossed over the 1962 election. The charge that Edward Moore (Kennedy) inherited the Senate seat was made by prominent white liberal Eddie McCormack in the 1962 primary.


I believe McCormack said that if his name was Edward Moore instead of Edward Kennedy, no one would take his bid seriously. Somewhat ironically, McCormack himself was a nephew of then-Speaker of the House John McCormack, though he had already been an established politician on his own.

I'm a huge fan of Ted Kennedy, but it's undeniable he was, basically, handed the Senate seat. It was decided already in 1960, when JFK resigned to become President and urged the Governor to appoint a placeholder, his former roomate, till Ted reached 30. 
113  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: President Obama’s America is a passive, confused and ineffective superpower on: September 06, 2014, 03:29:57 pm
Mods, please ban Snowstalker .
114  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Estonian officer kidnapped by Russians on: September 06, 2014, 03:22:07 pm
Russians claim he was on their territory, Estonia denies it.

Even if he was on their territory, nobody would believe that after all stuff that happened so far.
115  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who was President when your parents were born? on: September 06, 2014, 01:23:15 pm
Dad - Eisenhower

Mon - Kennedy
116  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Simple Truths Silver Mine on: September 06, 2014, 01:22:14 pm
Susan Collins votes with Mitch McConnell and Ted Cruz on basically everything of importance. She's just as far-right in practice as the rest of them.

But she's a moderat Sad
117  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Tusk to be the next President of the European Council on: September 06, 2014, 01:20:17 pm
That sound like a excellent skill set for a EU president.

Sorry, but ability to work in specific set of Polish politics doesn't necessarily translate to ability to achieve the same on EU Council level. I sincerely wish to see Tusk as successfull President (not because he's a Pole, but because I simply want the EU to work well), but the burden of proof is on his side, especially with the fact foreign affairs were secondary concern for him as PM

Also, while I can't deny that Polish position within the EU improved since 2007 (ironically, the bar was quite low after Kaczyński), I can't agree with theory that Tusk somehow waved his magic stick and transformed Poland from a pariah into an important state member. First, due to Poland's size, we were already most important of EU's eastern members (though, undoubtedly, a lot of this potential has been wasted). Second, giving him the entire credit is simply not fair, given a lot of people (from and outside the current administration) worked really hard.

I admit Tusk has some encouraging characteristic, but he was always primarily concerned with national affairs and I'm not sure whether he's up for this job. I'd rather see Sikorski as High Representative, if Poland really had to receive a top post in Brussels.
118  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Tusk to be the next President of the European Council/Next PM of Poland on: September 06, 2014, 06:00:28 am
It seems we can take Bieńkowska off the list, since she's been selected to be the next European Commissioner for for Internal Market and Services.

I really wish Tusk would have decided to resign earlier (since he's got a good excuse of "prepearing for transition"), so we would have the whole process completed sooner.
119  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Tusk to be the next President of the European Council on: September 06, 2014, 05:54:18 am
You can call me a Negative Nancy, but I'm still sceptical. I'm not going to buy the whole "picked because respected" thing. If EU leaders wanted a strong political personality to run the Council, they would have went with a tested statesman in 2009, like Juncker, instead of reaching to the second tier (while Van Rumpoy did very well, he wasn't really a prime candidate back then).

I think this selection is about message: giving a post to someone from the "New Europe", as well as sending a strong signal to Russia by picking a Pole. If it hadn't been Tusk, it would be someone else from the border countries.

While I understated Van Rumpoy's role, I'm not optimistic whether Tusk is up for the task. During his tenure he was nothing put a political machine operator, lacking vision or creativity, interested only in staying in power and guillotining potential rivals. If a Pole had to be selected, Sikorski would be far better choice, for example.

Going back to Russia, EU sanctions won't get any harsher not milder because of who was picked to chair the Council.
So perfect for the job then.

Hahaha, I wish it would be that simple Tongue
120  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: On a scale of 0 to 10...(rate the preceding poster) on: September 03, 2014, 08:10:27 am
10
121  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which European political party is the preceding poster best suited for? on: September 03, 2014, 07:23:24 am

They don't really have a "significant pro-life wing". They're just spineless political creatures afraid to piss off the bishops.

/skip
122  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: September 03, 2014, 07:21:13 am
Silesia belongs to Germany.

Well, if our Oxford intelectual says so, I guess we have no other choice than correcting borders in Europe.
123  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: does bushie represent the average oklahoman? on: September 02, 2014, 04:17:57 pm
Why are you making fun of Oklahomans?  We are very well educated.  We have many very good institutions of higher learning.  Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are among the best universities in the world.  My education at Northwestern Oklahoma State University is just as good as a Harvard education, only a heck of a lot cheaper.  Oklahoma does have an obesity problem, but most states do.  It doesn't mean we're any dumber than the healthy states.  Please, do not make fun of Oklahoman's.  We're a great bunch of people.  Sure, our politics leave something to be desired, but that's not because we're conservative.

So beautiful.
124  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you get one of my title? on: September 02, 2014, 04:15:30 pm
Why can't you just drown yourself in a toilet?
125  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is our "friend" from Bakersfield the worst poster in Atlas history? on: September 02, 2014, 04:14:55 pm
What's the point?
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