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26  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Le Petit Atlasien (Republic of Atlasia Official News Source) - Back in Business on: December 07, 2016, 02:19:14 pm
Foreign Leaders Unsure of the Agreement

With President Blair taking office under terms of the Potomac Agreement, he was congratulated by the leaders around the world, there is a significant reluctance among them. A senior aide to the German Chancellor Angela Merkel reportedly said "it would be difficult to do serious business with President Blair, since he'll be pretty soon replaced by a man he competed against in the polls." The Mexican Government is especially worried about continuity in the wake of Blair's visit there.

British Parliament Split On The ABCMA

The British Parliament seems to be deadlocked over a key question to whom it should be up to ratify, or reject, the ABCMA: the parliament itself or a nationwide vote. After Brexit (as well as the very recent vote in Italy, which led to Matteo Renzi's downfall), the government is extremely reluctant to hold yet another referendum, although a number of backbenches MPs from all major partie argue that if the people had a say in leaving the EU, they should also have a say in entering another such agreement.

(OOC: I guess I forgot about post-election Britain update. I'll be on it).
27  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would jfern have supported the Soviet invasions of Hungary and Czechslovakia? on: December 07, 2016, 09:48:17 am
If I say "yes" will you finally shut the f**k up?
28  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: The Sword of Damocles (Gameplay Thread) (Early 1930) on: December 07, 2016, 06:03:58 am
Italy placing its military on high alert in the Mediterranean is a worrying development. We trust it's move will not be used as an excuse to escalate tensions with other countries.
29  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is jfern a progressive? on: December 06, 2016, 08:45:38 pm
Well I care a lot about those issues too so that disproves your premise.

Since you've been extremely vocal on certain issues, showing where your main focus is. I don't think it can be disputed,

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jfern on the other hand supported the Republican candidate this year.

Did he openly support Trump or was merely "never Hillary"? (I'm asking because I don't remember).
30  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Irony Oremine on: December 06, 2016, 08:43:41 pm
And Cathcon is just a douche, which is something I also don't like.
31  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is Keith Ellison an anti-semite? on: December 06, 2016, 08:42:27 pm
Yes, clearly, in relations to his hatred of Israel and his attempts to tie "Jewish influence" to the Pro-Israel Lobby.

Well, the Pro-Israel Lobby is a way for Israel and its friends to influence U.S. politics in terms benefiting the Jewish state. Nothing unusual or sinister about this (I mean, there's the Irish Lobby among many others), but terms such as "Jewish influence" have very unpleaseant historical connotations.

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His ties to the Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan do not surprise me, at all.

Well, this one is troubling me a little.

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Also, supporting a Jew for president doesn't make someone not an antisemite. would any progressives say that about racists who voted for Obama? It's very much possible to make political decisions that seem intelligent and progressive while also still being a bigot.

Yes, but not to support Israeli policies doesn't mean one's an anti-semite. I, for one, I'm proud of my Jewish ancestry and support Israel's right to exist, while being very critial toward certain longterm aspects of Israeli policies.

I dom't agree there's some automatic equivalence.
32  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: The Sword of Damocles (Gameplay Thread) (Early 1930) on: December 06, 2016, 08:31:59 pm
The Sublime Porte applauds the British government's commitment for humanitarian causes worldwide and gratefully accepts the aid offered to us in the wake of the earthquake. We trust under Prime Minister Baldwin the British-Ottoman relations will continue to flourish.
33  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: word association game on: December 06, 2016, 06:48:42 pm
Uber alles
34  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Irony Oremine on: December 06, 2016, 06:24:44 pm
You really have had a sh**t life haven't you.  is that why you have to troll.  To get the attention that you always needed as a child?
35  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Hamilton is up on youtube on: December 06, 2016, 06:21:41 pm
Good for him.

You know you're like the third person to make that joke, right?

It wasn't a joke. I'm actually glad Kyle got something else to do than making dozens of sock accounts.
36  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is jfern a progressive? on: December 06, 2016, 05:43:07 pm
Well if the Republicans supported universal health care, college debt relief and the rest of Bernie's platform they'd be a pretty different party.

I wasn't referring to social-economic issues.
37  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: word association game on: December 06, 2016, 04:52:18 pm
Robert Byrd
38  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is jfern a progressive? on: December 06, 2016, 03:16:43 pm

If people like Ted Cruz and Paul Ryan were to embrace the pot, BRTD would be "all conservative, all the time". Jfern is sincere. Misguided, but sincere.

So what do you think of people like H.A. Goodman, the "Sane" "Progressive" and Michael Tracy? Are they progressive?

Are they sincere in their progressive beliefs? Yes. Are they useful idiots? Also yes. The two aren't mutually exclusive.


So some "progressives" voted for Trump?

There were, unfortunately, plenty of people who switched from Obama to Trump in four years. Very regretably, but still.

Not everybody thinks like we, political junkies.

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And how am I not a sincere progressive then:?

Well, BRTD, you always seemes to me like a guy who's obsessing about a couple of separate issues rather than the big picture. I can easily see if the parties switched on these, largely cultural, issues, you'd be a strong Republican.
39  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The White House: Public Office for the Blair Administration (First Foreign Trip) on: December 06, 2016, 03:10:26 pm
Would you please resign as Yankee beat you fair and square and let him have what is rightfully his. The presidency

What a quick reaction!
40  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is jfern a progressive? on: December 06, 2016, 03:10:02 pm

If people like Ted Cruz and Paul Ryan were to embrace the pot, BRTD would be "all conservative, all the time". Jfern is sincere. Misguided, but sincere.

So what do you think of people like H.A. Goodman, the "Sane" "Progressive" and Michael Tracy? Are they progressive?

Are they sincere in their progressive beliefs? Yes. Are they useful idiots? Also yes. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
41  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Hamilton is up on youtube on: December 06, 2016, 02:48:20 pm
Good for him.
42  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is jfern a progressive? on: December 06, 2016, 02:39:46 pm

If people like Ted Cruz and Paul Ryan were to embrace the pot, BRTD would be "all conservative, all the time". Jfern is sincere. Misguided, but sincere.
43  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Le Petit Atlasien (Republic of Atlasia Official News Source) - Back in Business on: December 06, 2016, 01:44:21 pm
Any news on British efforts to ratify ABCMA?

I'm preparing a detailed update.
44  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: The Sword of Damocles (Gameplay Thread) (Early 1930) on: December 06, 2016, 09:01:26 am
His Sacred and Imperial Majesty, along with his ministers, is deeply disturbed by the events that took place in Italy. It is clear the Roman Pope used false pretenses, slandering the Sublime Porte, to justify his coup against the legitimate sovereign. We conclude the Roman Pope cannot be considered a legitimate ruler.

The deposed Emperor's son, on the other hand, while being vested into the right to crown via his ancestry, lacks ways to establish his authority.

Therefore, as far as the Sublime Porte is concerned, there is no legitimate government representing Italy. We therefore consider Italy as a country in anarchy.



His Sacred and Imperial Majesty, along with his ministers, believes it is a sovereign right of the Cossack State to either open or close it's territory for any kind of commerce. It is their exclusive right they don't have to answer for before any other government.



His Sacred and Imperial Majesty, along with his ministers, is deeply displeased with the Romanian decision to carry on with the war. During the peace talks in Paris, we have insisted on preserving Romanian territorial integrity in the treaty and no such provisions were included.

In light of this unreasonable attitude, the Ottoman Empire must renounce its pact with Romania.
45  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Biden predicts he will run for the presidency in 2020 on: December 06, 2016, 08:54:41 am
Joe, you've skipped your best and last chance to run.
46  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: will winfield go back to opposing trump once he doesn't pick romney for state? on: December 06, 2016, 07:07:54 am
Winfield is just a Republican equivalent of a Yellow Dog Democrat.
47  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of smoltchanov on: December 06, 2016, 07:02:21 am
Who?  Are we doing these polls on new posters again?  Ugh.

He's been around for a long time, but I'm not surprised you haven't noticed him. I barely have.
48  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: word association game on: December 06, 2016, 06:39:25 am
Garbage
49  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Some Clinton electors lobbying for EC protest votes? *UPDATE* 7 Dem electors going faithless on: December 05, 2016, 06:46:31 pm
I wonder what would happen in a very theoretical scenario in which Trump dies before the electors meet. On one hand you can't cast a valid vote for a dead candidate (like with Greeley). On the other hand, in some states, electors wouldn't be allowed to vote for someone else.

I suppose RNC would have to designate a replacement candidate to receive Trump's evs (likely Pence).
50  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Some Clinton electors lobbying for EC protest votes? *UPDATE* 7 Dem electors going faithless on: December 05, 2016, 06:42:29 pm
The last time that there was more than one faithless elector in an election was technically 1912, but that was a unique circumstance since the Republican Vice Presidential candidate died before the election and after it was too late to remove him from the ballot....so the fact that Taft's electors didn't vote for him shouldn't really count IMO.

Yes, Butler was officially designated by the Republican Party to receive electoral votes Sherman would've received.

I'm not sure how to classify Alabama electors who voted for Byrd in 1960. While Mississippi was a clear case of elected "unpledged" slot, Kennedy did win the vote in Alabama.

There also was a Republican faithless elector from Oklahoma, who had actually tried to influence the election:

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http://Irwin made a public effort to attempt to convince his fellow Republican presidential electors to also change their votes. After the November 1960 presidential election, Irwin sent out the following telegram addressed to the other 219 Republican electors:

I am Oklahoma Republican elector. The Republican electors cannot deny the election to Kennedy. Sufficient conservative Democratic electors available to deny labor Socialist nominee. Would you consider Byrd President, Goldwater Vice President, or wire any acceptable substitute. All replies strict confidence.[1]
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