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26  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the United States Constitution on: September 22, 2014, 05:05:36 am
Outdated.
27  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Oui, Mr. President (RIP Nappy) on: September 21, 2014, 05:49:28 pm
All The Emperor's Men

While, as President, Jackson's retained all members of Napoleon's cabinet, he was unable to hold them together as Emperor. Within a week of his proclamation, Marshall Soult has stepped down as Minister for West, officially citing a desire for retirement, although it was an open secret he took Jackson taking the imperial title as a blatant insult to Napoleon's memory. Similarly, Niemcewicz resigned as well, discouraged with his second homeland taking visibly authoritarian turn. And as we all remember, the likes of John Quincy Adams and Richard M. Johnson, were not locked up.

That being said, Jackson did not waste much time to reconstruct the cabinet. Marshall Poniatowski was promoted to Minister of War, while General Scott was selected to head the Internal Affairs Ministry.

Certainly the most controversial appointment came, when Jackson picked his own nephew (and possible successor), Andrew Jackson Donelson, to replace Adams, raising him at the same time to the rank of Major General. The move only straighted fears that Jackson is heading toward establishing a dynasty.

All major ministerial post, except of State and Justice, were now filled with the military men, belonging to Jackson's primary power base. In fact, all around the country, trusted army veterans were given many key federal posts.


An underground cartoon criticizing Emperor Jackson's appointments of his military allies


A Seminole Question

The years of political instability, wars and revolution has delayed American ambitions to expand their way of life to the West. Even with conquest of Louisiana, settlements were progressing slow, as the government had other priorities, such as consolidating the new regime. Even in the old United States, Indians still held significant amount of land.

The Natives' reaction to the white threat varied from place to place, from tribe to tribe. Some, especially in the old United States, followed Thomas Jefferson's advice to abandon their lifestyle and settle down, hoping for a peaceful coexistence with the whites. Meanwhile, many areas of Louisiana, despite removal of the Spaniards, remained out of American control and defiant Natives, who until fairly recently were supplied by the British, wowed not to give up even a foot of the ground.

For now, Indians had time to prepare for eventual conflict, as Jackson (like Napoleon before him) was preoccupied with consolidation. Seminoles in Florida, however, became an exception, with the American government wowing revenge for death of President Bonaparte. By God! I won't rest until every one of these savages is whipped out of the face of this holy earth, concecrated with the blood of Great Napoleon! Jackson said to his cabinet, as Washington ordered a new policy of "resettlement". The "resettlement" was intentionally brutal, and by 1840 only ap. 4,000 of Seminole Indians left alive in the west.
28  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Former Governor Marvin Mandel of Maryland running? (lol) on: September 21, 2014, 05:18:07 pm
Meh, former Governor Wayne Mixson of Florida would be much better candidate for Democrats than Mandel: from a swing state, yonger (92), champion of the farmers, etc.
29  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: 2014 Brazil Election on: September 21, 2014, 05:07:46 pm
Collor is running for senator from the state of Alagoas. Probably he will win. He would have no more than 5% if he ran for president. There is no sense for him to run for president.

I know, right? Tongue

Seriously though, great job with this thread, guys. I've lost touch with Brazilian politics, so it helps me get reconnected to this Smiley
30  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post something you admire about the previous poster on: September 21, 2014, 04:23:31 pm
Just to name one thing: his ability to stay good friends with posters that are his ideological opposites.
31  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mikheil Saakashvili is living the Brooklyn dream on: September 21, 2014, 04:19:16 pm
Seems like happy life. I'm sure Georgians are happy too, not having him around anymore.
32  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: 2014 Brazil Election on: September 21, 2014, 04:16:15 pm
moreover they are trying to portrait the PSB's candidate as an inexperiente leader that won't work in Brazil's political environment and are comparing her to Collor and Jānio Quadros.

It's such a shame Collor isn't running himself. You say "WTF?", but if Itamar could keep trying to run for President way until 2006, why the hell not? Tongue
33  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: The American Union on: September 21, 2014, 03:23:13 pm
No comments yet beside it's very good Smiley We need more.
34  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Oui, Mr. President (RIP Nappy) on: September 20, 2014, 05:45:52 am
This is a great TL, I love it! It's put the idea for the basis of my next TL in my head.

Thanks Smiley Looking forward to your TL too.

Love this. Does this mean elections are suspended? Also, I look forward to seeing how and if the U.S. government handles the revolutions of 1848, and if America's czars must face the uprising of the masses in the 1910's.

Now that you reminded me, I got some ideas Wink
35  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Oui, Mr. President (RIP Nappy) on: September 19, 2014, 05:48:29 pm
A Sensitive Issue

Not only a very nature of the Jacksonian Empire was confusing ("not quite a monarchy, not a quite republic"). Also, a key issue, critical to the contunity of the government, has been left unanswered at all: the succession.

For both symbolic, as well as practical reasons, Jackson was wary of designating a heir who would effectively become a Crown Prince. Despite "temporary" suppression of the press, the people, both on the streets and inside the government offices, were speculating who, and under which variant, would be a designated heir, which had to happen sooner or later. There were more than one option:

1. Dynastic succession

Basically, Jackson would be succeeded by a member of his family. That itself was a tricky business, considering the Emperor had no children on his own and picking an heir from his relatives wouldn't be so clear. That being said, his wife's nephew and namesake, Andrew Jackson Donelson. He's been especially close to the President, growing up at his house in Tennessee and serving as his aide-de-camp in the military. He's also been already involved in politics. That being said, he was just "the wife's nephew", with no blood link.


Andrew Jackson Donelson: Crown Prince?


2. Non-Dynastic succession

Under this scenario, Jackson would designate another politician to succeed him as Emperor. That was viewed as safer to a risky dynastic succession.


3. Election

Instead of designating an heir, upon Jackson's death or abdication, an election would be held, thereby making the United States elective monarchy.

Although free of any dynastic traits, the successor under this scenario would be even less certain, depending on political situation. It could be another powerful military figure, such as Marshall Poniatowski or General Scott, maybe civilian leader like Van Buren or Taney, not to mention a risk of an opposition candidate winning.


4. Restoration

Perhaps the most original, yet the least popular view held that only General Jackson was fit serve as Emperor (a difficult measure for difficult times), and once things are sorted out, the Republic should be restored once he's gone.
36  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Cornish National Liberation Army on: September 19, 2014, 05:05:58 pm
LOL @ all thirty of them.
37  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who would you rather hug, Pat Roberts or Greg Orman? on: September 19, 2014, 05:04:55 pm
Is Hillary Clinton and hugging people from Kansas all you can think about, IceSpear?

You're more disturbing than Tender.
38  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Rate Preceding Poster's 2014 Prediction "Hackness" from 0 to 10 on: September 19, 2014, 05:00:06 pm
1 (no one is completely free of hackness)
39  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: If you could bring one former poster, who would that be? on: September 19, 2014, 04:58:48 pm
Gabu (normal)

Too bad I wasn't around for Gabu. From what I've heard and read, he was an awesome poster.
40  Forum Community / Forum Community / If you could bring one former poster, who would that be? on: September 19, 2014, 04:53:49 pm
By "former poster" I mean one that simply left, as opposed to banned users.
41  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Oui, Mr. President (RIP Nappy) on: September 19, 2014, 03:20:20 pm
The People's Autocrat


Protector of the People's Liberties
Emperor of these United States


Emperor Jackson did genuinely believe in huge, practical difference between "royalism, based on inequality and privilege for few", and "modern system, where one man is entrusted by his fellow citizens to protect their liberties and combat the power of elite and unelected, hereditary aristocracy".

Due to this, as well as his aversion to "that damn posh stuff", Jackson carefully maintained a very humble style, making sure that, outside of adopting an imperial title, nothing else about his reign would bear even the slightest reminiscent of a monarchy. He was getting very angry (and we all know how hot tempered the man was) when addressed as "Your Majesty", insisting that if he must be styled, then "Your Excellency" would be more than enough (as "Mr. Emperor" would be, for obvious reasons, dumb). He held no coronation nor investiture ceremony. Furthermore, the Emperor made it clear no titles of nobility, even purely honorary and nonhereditary, are going to be permitted.

Internationally, Jackson's proclamation as Emperor has very little impact. He was, of course, being ridiculed by the European press as a "nouveau riche", but the change did not affect existing diplomatic relations.
42  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: September 19, 2014, 01:50:21 pm
Torie and his likes should be guillotined.

A motion to decapitate Torie with a mechanical device was put forward.

Someone must second the motion.
43  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Senator Previous Poster most Reminds you of on: September 19, 2014, 12:40:08 pm
I can't really pin him, so I'll go with Rand Paul as relatively closest.
44  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of this Gordon Brown speech on: September 19, 2014, 12:38:53 pm
So you're going to spam us with your new-found Britannia obsession for like two weeks?

Is that even a question?
45  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post something you admire about the previous poster on: September 19, 2014, 12:37:49 pm
What I really like like about him is that he's staying away from the forum drama and just goes on, contributing his thoughts.
46  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post something you admire about the previous poster on: September 19, 2014, 10:31:18 am
Hash is very knowledgeable and funny. Interactions with him are never boring. I've learned a lot of things from him over the years I'm posting here.

Also, he's a competent moderator, maintaining International Elections' board high quality.
47  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Why has the British Conservative Party been so unpopular for decades now? on: September 19, 2014, 07:00:36 am
In 2010, the Tory party won the election because of the coalition with the Liberal Democratic leader, Nick Clegg due to the election results showing a hung parliament after disgust with the Gordon Brown-lead Labour Party. Since 1997, when the Tory Party lost in a landslide over Tony Blair's Labour Party, the Tory party has been unpopular and fielded uninspiring leaders after John Major resigned. Why has the Tory party been so unpopular?

Are you implying John Major was inspiring?
48  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: How would a Free Scotland be politically different from the UK? on: September 19, 2014, 06:58:26 am
Scotland is Vermont? 

I was thinking more like West Virginia or Western Pennsylvania. 

#TypicalAtlas
49  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Favorite Hillary Clinton tribute video on: September 19, 2014, 05:25:51 am
IceSpear, only you would make a thread like this. Tongue

I disagree.
50  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post something you admire about the previous poster on: September 18, 2014, 02:07:51 pm
He was very brave to put such a disguisting picture in his signature.
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