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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Tom Tancredo on: August 04, 2010, 10:27:21 pm
That guy is going to cost us the CO governor race. He's a dick.
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Henry Ford on: August 04, 2010, 10:26:53 pm
I can't think of a more significant 20th century figure.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Rising education costs. on: August 04, 2010, 10:26:07 pm
Yes education used to be much cheaper when the government wasn't involved. Just watch health care because it's going to sky rocket next. Look if we stopped politicizing education, the issue would take care of itself by supply and demand. Now education is so easy to come by that it's become a phase of life and that has devalued the American college degree. Make it cheaper but harder to get into school.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama 48%, Bush 47% on: August 04, 2010, 10:24:31 pm
Yes the people are beginning to wake up. Bush could very well beat Obama in a national election today.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gingrich: U.S. Should Attack Iran and North Korea on: August 04, 2010, 10:23:51 pm
Yes but that's obvious. The question is how should it be done?
6  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: How Would Kerry Have Handled the Iraq War? on: August 04, 2010, 10:21:24 pm
Kerry was either lying by saying he could get foreign troops to help because no one likes the US enough to lend a hand. He was either lying or full of himself. He would've changed his position as president too going back and forth. He'd blame Bush if there was a problem and take credit if things went well.

All politicians take credit if things go well or blame others if things go badly.

He would have pulled us out, sent us back, pulled us out, and sent us back again because he is a notorious flip flopper.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Alternative Elections / Re: Ronald Reagan vs. John F. Kennedy on: August 04, 2010, 10:15:43 pm
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Kennedy would've been able to carry some of the south but in all honesty could've lost by 6 to Nixon had voter turn out been different or the election been on a different day.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Re: Gore v. McCain '04 on: August 04, 2010, 10:03:33 pm
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McCain/Giuliani 317 (52%)
Gore/Lieberman 221 (47%)
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Re: 2008: McCain Wins on: August 04, 2010, 09:58:47 pm
McCain would really work with both sides as he has had EXPERIENCE doing. Also, we wouldn't be staying the course in Iraq and Afghanistan but rather changing for the better. Gitmo would be open but no longer torturing people.

Secretaries:

State- Lieberman
Treasury- Daniels
Defense- Powell
Justice- Crist
Interior- Huckabee
Agriculture- Vilsack
Labor- Joe the Plummer
Health and Human Services- Frist
Education- Jeb Bush
Housing- Jindal
Transportation- Pawlenty
Homeland Security- Giuliani
Energy- Thune
Veterans' Affairs- Dole

And we wouldn't have nealy as many problems as we do today!
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: The 'new' bellwethers? on: August 04, 2010, 09:50:15 pm
I'm wondering if after the Republicans win in November and states like NY, CA, MI, MA, and IL go into a depression because they won't get any more federal funding, if the voters will blame Obama. They'll likely go democrat still, but will they start to notice how dependent they were on big brother? Perhaps we have some more bellwethers on the way?
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Worst Candidates in Modern History on: August 04, 2010, 09:42:16 pm
Hmm who do you think would make a terrible candidate today in both parties?
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Two Questions About the Bush Family on: August 04, 2010, 09:41:10 pm
Greenspan was reappointed by Clinton. You didn't know that but you do now.

He was reappointed by Clinton in 2000 and then by Bush in 2004.

So you fault Clinton for that?

No, because Greenspan didn't do anything wrong between 1996 and 2000.

Lmao right it's only when a Republican is in office that things can be done wrong. Look 1996 was the start of mistakes that led to the housing collapse. It needed to be much harder to get loans in this country and Clinton and the democrats scared the Republicans into supporting a bill that made it easier for minorities to get loans regardless of whether or not they could pay them back. It was the politics of race and fear in the mid 90's that helped to cause the collapse of 2008. Anyone that doesn't admit that is a liar.
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: When will the United States stop giving a rat's ass about who they elect? on: August 04, 2010, 09:38:53 pm
Hello, that happened in 2008.
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: When will Texas become a swing state? on: August 04, 2010, 09:38:17 pm
There is no sign of that. It's more likely to become it's own country in which I would move to.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: 2004- What would have happend if ther was diffrent caanidates? on: August 04, 2010, 09:37:22 pm
None of our business? If you saw a murder taking place on the street, wouldn't you at least call the cops? I hope you would. Now replace the murderer with Saddam and the one being murdered with an innocent Iraqi. Even though they may not be citizens of the US, they're humans too!

Then how come we didn't invade Sudan? Unlike Saddam, the Sudanese govt. was actually committing a genocide when Bush Jr. was President. And if you're going to talk about human rights, Reagan sold Saddam a lot of WMDs when Saddam was committing genocide. So if you're going to invade one country while ignoring countries that have far worse human rights violations, then you Republicans are just a bunch of hypocrites.

There you go again right out of the playbook.

I am simply stating facts. It's not my fault a lot of Republican politicians are hypocrites.

Facts that only tell one side of the story. Facts can be very misleading out of context.
16  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: What do moral values mean to you? on: August 04, 2010, 09:36:52 pm
Moral values mean having substance and not just pretty speeches. It means attending a disaster rather than cracking jokes and drinking at a $28,000 a plate Hollywood dinner. It means standing up to unrepentant terrorists and child molesters. It means minding your own business and respecting the limits of your power. It means not taking what doesn't belong to you. It means paying the taxes that you owe according to law. It means listening to those who have questions.
17  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Pence to visit Iowa again; Gingrich to SC; Pawlenty to IA and NH on: August 04, 2010, 09:30:03 pm
Pence reminds me more of a VP candidate. If he were running, I'm not sure he'd be running for senate unless of course it's something to fall back on after losing as VP. As for the presidential candidate, it's rare to see someone run for senate for the first time just 2 years before they run for the white house.
18  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread on: August 04, 2010, 09:28:10 pm
He's doing terrible and clinging onto anything that he thinks may help him. Support amongst blacks and hispanics is down too.
19  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Romney/Gingrich 2012? Viable? on: August 04, 2010, 09:27:05 pm
No Gingrich won't accept and those candidates aren't really a good match. Plus Gingrich is way over qualified for the VP.
20  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Giuliani's Daughter Arrested for Shoplifting from Sephora on the East Side on: August 04, 2010, 09:26:28 pm
If this were Chelsea Clinton or the Obama girls we'd never know about it.
21  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Clarus Research: Hillary Clinton has a 64% approval rating on: August 04, 2010, 09:25:58 pm
almost twice what Obama has. She will put together a campaign this time next year if Obama is lower than he is now.

She is not anywhere close to twice as much as Obama. And Obama's approvals will begin recovering late this year or early next year. Heck, even with a 45% approval rating, Obama still has a 50% chance of being reelected.

You take things overly literal don't you. Give Obama a year.
22  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: RNC trying to move primaries later; will impose PR on states w/ early primaries on: August 04, 2010, 09:25:23 pm
Part of me does think that the longer primary season would help the GOP because the media could only tarnish the nominee for so long. Part of me thinks it may hurt because our nominee will be beat up from within.
23  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: RNC trying to move primaries later; will impose PR on states w/ early primar on: August 04, 2010, 07:05:19 pm
True but most voters know most things about a candidate after a few months anyhow.

Lol.  I take it you don't remember the polls from the fall of 2007 showing that most likely GOP primary voters still didn't even know that Giuliani was pro-choice?  Most voters don't really start paying any attention until a few weeks before the primaries start.  That's why the polls tend to get really volatile in the last couple of weeks before Iowa.  Voters finally start paying attention, and making up their minds.


The fall of 2007 was well before the 2008 election. And no most voters don't pay attention until after Labor Day of the election year. That's why summer polls are often irrelevant when looking back. McCain and Obama were back and forth with Obama having the upper hand in 2008 until September. Dukakis lead by alot too. It's because the independent and swing voters weren't tuning in yet. By a couple months I meant a couple months after they start paying attention.
24  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Why I think John Thune is the GOP's best chance in 2012 on: August 04, 2010, 07:03:06 pm
I like Thune's young family man approach, but he's not ready yet. Someone with governing and military experience is needed for the job with us fighting 2 wars and being so far in debt.

Iraq is going to be over at the end of 2011, so we're only going to be fighting one war in 2012.

I'm not sure how you already know this. Obama never said it would be over and only suggested that we'd be bringing some troops home. I hope we're not in any wars but until Al-Qaida is gone we will always be at war.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: 2004- What would have happend if ther was diffrent caanidates? on: August 04, 2010, 05:55:22 pm
None of our business? If you saw a murder taking place on the street, wouldn't you at least call the cops? I hope you would. Now replace the murderer with Saddam and the one being murdered with an innocent Iraqi. Even though they may not be citizens of the US, they're humans too!

Then how come we didn't invade Sudan? Unlike Saddam, the Sudanese govt. was actually committing a genocide when Bush Jr. was President. And if you're going to talk about human rights, Reagan sold Saddam a lot of WMDs when Saddam was committing genocide. So if you're going to invade one country while ignoring countries that have far worse human rights violations, then you Republicans are just a bunch of hypocrites.

There you go again right out of the playbook.
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