1. Matt from VT
2. bore

We should not be so bold and rash as to respond so hastily to the regular sabre-rattling from North Korea. Kim Jong-un is establishing his power in the DPRK, nothing more. We should not make the first blow against the North Korean regime. We are defenders. When North Korea begins an invasion of South Korea itself, then we will respond to our allies and enter the war and swiftly bring an end to any hypothetical conflict. But, we must remember that this conflict is indeed hypothetical, and we should not create any conflicts and loss of life that need not happen.

Conflict must be necessary, not willy-nilly.

[The Light Party]

Will be away for war for 20 years as soon as you are elected ?

Don't worry, I have no intentions of getting "lost" for 20 years like my name sake.

OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN ANNOUNCEMENT: I have decided to return from my absence due to vacation in order to make a response to some recent developments.

I have decided to join Governor Scott's excellent new party, The Light Party. My campaign is based on the support of one party, and I merely change my party affiliation because I have hope that the Light Party can be a successful party, and one better structured to suit the people's needs than the Liberal Party has been as of late. I will still seek the support of anyone willing to support me, and any of my former colleagues in Liberal can still support me - I speak for my own values, and not the one that some political group tells me to approve of.

I also will, like some of my other Mideast Parties, refrain from personal message box spamming in order to win votes. I believe this tactic is unbecoming of someone running for elected office, and I'd rather not annoy the people of Atlasia by filling their PM boxes to the brim with my words.

Thank you -

Odysseus.

Odysseus
Light Party
Virginia

This is exactly what I've been looking for! The failures of the Liberal Party have been made apparent, and it's time for a change. Despite my current affiliation with the Liberal Party, I will be be joining this new "Light Party". I realize I am currently in the running for Mideast Assembly, but my run for Assembly is not for party, but rather for both myself and the people of the Mideast.

If the Light Party will have me, I'll be glad to be a part of it!

You seem like a reasonable guy, and even though I already told you this over PM, might as well formally announce my support for your campaign here.

While my support may be a bit impotent and unnecessary, seeing as how I'm from a different reason, I'll still say that you, someone I know to be very wise, principled, and truly appropriate for the job, have my utmost, rock-hard support.

I sincerely hope you do well!

I wish to thank everyone for their endorsements. It's a real honor to have people showing their support, even those from other regions. I have only the utmost thanks for you all!

Now, I wish to make a statement on the current continuation of the Mideast Budgeting Amendment catastrophe. And yes, I do call it a catastrophe at this point. After discussing the situation with my fellow Mideast colleagues, it is really just shameful to say the least. This is now a third attempt in a row which has failed. It is truly a massive disappointment to see that the Mideast Assembly has failed yet again to find a reasonable compromise for the people of the region. Now, I can continue going on about this. I can continue to say that many members of the Assembly may be putting politics and ideology over good representation. But it is better to simply say that Governor Tmth has recently released his compromise. And while even I may have reservations about parts of it, I believe it is far better to take a pragmatic approach in this situation.

Gov. Tmth's proposal has my utmost support. It is both a deserving compromise for the people of the Mideast, and a good amendment in its own right. After attempt after attempt, it is time for the Mideast to finally get its rightful budget amendment. And this is the one to support, my fellow citizens. I urge you to vote for Gov. Tmth's compromise amendment. It's time to put ideology aside, put this issue to bed, and give the people of the Mideast some actual results after all these attempts.

EDIT:

I forgot to mention this formally, but I also wish to take this as an opportunity to announce that starting tomorrow, I will be absent from the forum until Sunday, April 7. I am taking a personal vacation with my family for Spring Break.

Endorsed!

Likewise! As another "new face" running for Mideast Assembly, I can sympathize with ya, and I wish most certainly wish you luck in the coming elections!

**

Good evening, my fellow citizens.

I hereby formally announce that I will be a candidate for Mideast Assembly in the May elections.

So let's get the obvious bits out of the way. You may recognize me as one of the newer members of Atlasia. I've only just returned and re-registered this month, and despite my, albeit short, prior involvement with the nation, I never sought politicial office. And thus, my resume is completely blank.

Some may say that electing a man with no prior experience is a frightening proposition. But I believe this is one of the many beauties of the Democratic process. Constantly, the inevitable influx of new people, new values, new virtues, and new ideas, continues. And this, my friends, is exactly why I am running in this election. To provide the people of the Mideast with a new voice.

But of course, the most important question is what is this new voice going to sound like?

Well, I can promise you only what I am. I am a man of beliefs far and wide; some pragmatic, some more principled. I intend to maintain a reasonable and a pragmatic economic policy. I intend to protect the interests of the people in the face of corporate or government intrusion. I intend to further the causes of science and education. I intend to continue our reputation of being one of the most inclusive and free regions of this union. Now I am not nearly mad enough approach hot button social issues which no one can agree upon. But I am mad enough to ensure that the civil liberties of the people of this wonderful region are thoroughly protected.

And now, I humbly ask you, my fellow citizens of the Mideast, for your vote in May. I can only hope that I'm given the noble opportunity to be one of the people's many voices. Vote often, vote Odysseus.

**

Thank you!

I will be a candidate for Mideast Assembly in May.

x Odysseus

And yeah, we should just be able to copy and paste over everything we need.

Aye!

Abstain

[un]

This thread is completely unnecessary.

I think he was being sarcastic.

Thank god someone's sarcasm detector is on.

I made a joke about the Star Wars prequels and got kicked. Best chat ever.

I follow a strict "No Padme/No Prequels" policy in my daily life. Nothing personal.

It was a joke about how terrible the prequels were. But ok.

I made a joke about the Star Wars prequels and got kicked. Best chat ever.

1. Do you vote to ratify the Proposed Bylaws?

[X] AYE
[] NAY
[] Abstain


2. Regardless of your vote on the previous question, please vote for President of the Liberal Party. He/She will open the Convention Thread on the 1st of April.

[X] Clinton1996 of the Mideast.
[] write-in
[] NOTA

Nobody is defending whatever Oakvale did (or atleast, I know I'm not), and to try to push the argument into that direction is dishonest. If Oakvale was one of the three major founders, then he should be there. History is history, and removing it simply because you don't want to have his name next to yours on a wiki page is honestly pretty darn wrong and childish.

Then again, this is a very small scandal, and it isn't a huge issue. I don't really care what Oakvale did, I wasn't here for the vast majority of it. However, let's just try to attempt to refrain from doing this in the future. Rewriting history tends to make the party look bad.

Well, Polnut and Progressive Realist were defending him but oh well. It probably was childish but I was really upset about how my friends were treated and yeah, its not an excuse but I was also already upset about other things so I kind of let it compound...ugh. Oh well. Not a big deal. I'm sorry for my mistake.

I can understand this. Let's just try not to succumb to blind emotion, it's the source of all scandals.

Napoleon's apologized for goodness sake, let's move on.

Lol at trying to defend the statements. Anyone who wants to look can PM me.

Anyway, there was a complaint that our page looked cluttered. It made sense to remove Oakvale since he was no longer a member and joined after Scott and I did.

That doesn't mean Oakvale wasn't one of the founders.  History is history.  Removing his name for partisan and personal reasons is wrong and childish.

Okay, and what about all the other founders that aren't listed?

I think saying things about people behind their backs in the IRC is wrong and childish.

Miles is a good friend of mine and he's almost been bullied off the forum once before. And we've all seen posters leave the forum because of Oakvale's actions. I almost left the forum because of Oakvale. If someone wants to put it back, fine, but I don't like having my name listed next to his. He even attacks people who don't attack other people for him!

I was pretty upset about everything that went on when I changed that. I really didn't think it'd be a big deal. It seems like the people making a fuss about it don't even like the Liberal Party.

Nobody is defending whatever Oakvale did (or atleast, I know I'm not), and to try to push the argument into that direction is dishonest. If Oakvale was one of the three major founders, then he should be there. History is history, and removing it simply because you don't want to have his name next to yours on a wiki page is honestly pretty darn wrong and childish.

Then again, this is a very small scandal, and it isn't a huge issue. I don't really care what Oakvale did, I wasn't here for the vast majority of it. However, let's just try to attempt to refrain from doing this in the future. Rewriting history tends to make the party look bad.

But whatever the case may have been, I can't say it merits convention-crashing when 90% of this party had nothing to do with either the dispute or Napoleon's reaction.

Now this I can completely agree with. This thread is the "Liberal National Convention", not the official "Wikigate" thread. If someone wants to make one, be my guest, but let's get down to convention business rather than petty stuff like this.

Okay, guys, let's put this all behind us.

Anyway, I plan on holding the vote for Bylaws and the Presidency tomorrow. Any objections?

I agree, no objections from me.

This thread is completely necessary.

Another open senate seat, another opportunity. Who wants to run?

I'm gonna write in Odysseus.

I am perfectly content to have you guys stroke my ego by writing me in. However, let's see if we can't get an official candidate for us first lol.

If no one objects, I'll do a vote on the Bylaws, Refional Directors, Prwsieent, logo, and slogan later tonight.

Sounds good to me, I look forward to it.

After the latest alteration (Liberal Party Convention and Liberal National Convention weren't nearly different enough for my tastes ), the party leadership draft seems nearly perfect. I mean I might change the names around, but I'm sure they'll grow on me, and the aesthetics aren't the important part anyway.

All in all, seems perfectly reasonable!

I am an openly gay male, I live in San Francisco, and I oppose gay marriage at the federal level.

I fully expect that this was one of the rejected cards for Let's Make a Date or Party Quirks on Whose Line Is It Anyway.