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51  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: ... And now Ben supports SSM on: March 26, 2013, 10:37:36 pm
This thread is completely unnecessary.

I think he was being sarcastic.

Thank god someone's sarcasm detector is on.
52  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Liberal National Committee (LOGO & SLOGAN PROPOSALS) on: March 26, 2013, 08:57:17 pm
1. Do you vote to ratify the Proposed Bylaws?

[X] AYE
[] NAY
[] Abstain


2. Regardless of your vote on the previous question, please vote for President of the Liberal Party. He/She will open the Convention Thread on the 1st of April.

[X] Clinton1996 of the Mideast.
[] write-in
[] NOTA
53  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Liberal National Committee (LOGO & SLOGAN PROPOSALS) on: March 26, 2013, 08:55:03 pm
Nobody is defending whatever Oakvale did (or atleast, I know I'm not), and to try to push the argument into that direction is dishonest. If Oakvale was one of the three major founders, then he should be there. History is history, and removing it simply because you don't want to have his name next to yours on a wiki page is honestly pretty darn wrong and childish.

Then again, this is a very small scandal, and it isn't a huge issue. I don't really care what Oakvale did, I wasn't here for the vast majority of it. However, let's just try to attempt to refrain from doing this in the future. Rewriting history tends to make the party look bad.


Well, Polnut and Progressive Realist were defending him but oh well. It probably was childish but I was really upset about how my friends were treated and yeah, its not an excuse but I was also already upset about other things so I kind of let it compound...ugh. Oh well. Not a big deal. I'm sorry for my mistake.

I can understand this. Let's just try not to succumb to blind emotion, it's the source of all scandals. Wink

Napoleon's apologized for goodness sake, let's move on.
54  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Liberal National Committee (LOGO & SLOGAN PROPOSALS) on: March 26, 2013, 08:47:18 pm
Lol at trying to defend the statements. Anyone who wants to look can PM me.

Anyway, there was a complaint that our page looked cluttered. It made sense to remove Oakvale since he was no longer a member and joined after Scott and I did.

That doesn't mean Oakvale wasn't one of the founders.  History is history.  Removing his name for partisan and personal reasons is wrong and childish.

Okay, and what about all the other founders that aren't listed?

I think saying things about people behind their backs in the IRC is wrong and childish.

Miles is a good friend of mine and he's almost been bullied off the forum once before. And we've all seen posters leave the forum because of Oakvale's actions. I almost left the forum because of Oakvale. If someone wants to put it back, fine, but I don't like having my name listed next to his. He even attacks people who don't attack other people for him!

I was pretty upset about everything that went on when I changed that. I really didn't think it'd be a big deal. It seems like the people making a fuss about it don't even like the Liberal Party.

Nobody is defending whatever Oakvale did (or atleast, I know I'm not), and to try to push the argument into that direction is dishonest. If Oakvale was one of the three major founders, then he should be there. History is history, and removing it simply because you don't want to have his name next to yours on a wiki page is honestly pretty darn wrong and childish.

Then again, this is a very small scandal, and it isn't a huge issue. I don't really care what Oakvale did, I wasn't here for the vast majority of it. However, let's just try to attempt to refrain from doing this in the future. Rewriting history tends to make the party look bad.

But whatever the case may have been, I can't say it merits convention-crashing when 90% of this party had nothing to do with either the dispute or Napoleon's reaction.

Now this I can completely agree with. This thread is the "Liberal National Convention", not the official "Wikigate" thread. If someone wants to make one, be my guest, but let's get down to convention business rather than petty stuff like this.


Okay, guys, let's put this all behind us.

Anyway, I plan on holding the vote for Bylaws and the Presidency tomorrow. Any objections?

I agree, no objections from me.
55  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: ... And now Ben supports SSM on: March 26, 2013, 04:34:01 pm
This thread is completely necessary.
56  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Liberal National Committee (LOGO & SLOGAN PROPOSALS) on: March 26, 2013, 04:31:33 pm
Another open senate seat, another opportunity. Who wants to run?

I'm gonna write in Odysseus. Tongue

I am perfectly content to have you guys stroke my ego by writing me in. Tongue However, let's see if we can't get an official candidate for us first lol.
57  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Liberal National Committee (LOGO & SLOGAN PROPOSALS) on: March 26, 2013, 02:38:20 pm
If no one objects, I'll do a vote on the Bylaws, Refional Directors, Prwsieent, logo, and slogan later tonight.

Sounds good to me, I look forward to it.
58  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Liberal National Committee (LOGO & SLOGAN PROPOSALS) on: March 26, 2013, 01:24:30 am
After the latest alteration (Liberal Party Convention and Liberal National Convention weren't nearly different enough for my tastes Tongue), the party leadership draft seems nearly perfect. I mean I might change the names around, but I'm sure they'll grow on me, and the aesthetics aren't the important part anyway.

All in all, seems perfectly reasonable!
59  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of CountryClassSF on: March 25, 2013, 01:44:28 pm
I am an openly gay male, I live in San Francisco, and I oppose gay marriage at the federal level.

I fully expect that this was one of the rejected cards for Let's Make a Date or Party Quirks on Whose Line Is It Anyway.
60  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: LumineVonReuental for Mideast Assembly - (Campaign HQ) (Victory Speech!) on: March 24, 2013, 11:20:13 pm
Congratulations, man! I'm sure you'll be a great assemblyman, and winning an independent bid is pretty dang impressive.
61  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Inside Nyman: March Elections - Early reports from the Mideast on: March 22, 2013, 05:41:04 pm
1. Snowguy's voters need italics
2. Ody's vote is invalid (he only registered some 4-5 days ago)
3. Julio's vote is exhausted, not invalid (lack of distributable preferences)

Your update format is dy-no-mite! Thanks for the work you've put into this.

Oh whoops. I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss an election, lol. >_>
62  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: March 2013 At-Large Special Senate Election on: March 21, 2013, 11:38:55 pm

AT-LARGE SENATE (1 vacancy to fill)


[ 2 ] Clarence of Florida
Federalist Party



[ 1 ] Kalwejt of Vermont
Liberal Party



[  ] Snowguy of North Carolina
Labor Party



[  ] Write-in:______________________________



[  ] None of the above
63  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Liberal National Committee (LOGO & SLOGAN PROPOSALS) on: March 21, 2013, 10:42:27 pm
Hey guys.

To keep us on the front page (Tongue) and to get us back on party discussion, after some talking with Wolfentoad about our party and it's logo, I've come up with the following logo proposal. I've attempted to preserve the merits of both proposals offered by Wolfentoad back on page 2 of the thread - the enigmatic torch on the first proposal, and the clean-cut, modern look of the second. Hopefully this'll combine them pretty well:

64  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Mideast Assembly Elections: March 2013 on: March 21, 2013, 04:27:08 pm
[ 7 ] Inks.LWC
[ 2 ] TexasDemocrat (Talleyrand)
[ 5 ] ZuWo
[ 6 ] Idaho Blue Dog Dem
[ 4 ] Gass3268
[ 8 ] LumineVonReuental
[ 1 ] Shua
[ 3 ] Oldiesfreak1854
65  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Liberal National Committee (LOGO & SLOGAN PROPOSALS) on: March 20, 2013, 09:34:27 pm
Since Clinton1996 seems to be on track to win the Party Presidency, I'll throw myself in as a candidate for ME Chair.

Hm... what about "Board of Chairs"?

I'd prefer to call it a "Conference" on the off-Presidential months, while the National Convention would be held on Presidential months. Just an artistic preference.

I agree with Gov. Wolfentoad here, but the aesthetics aren't that important I suppose. Whatever works for everyone on the subject of leadership names is fine with me. Let's just agree on all the terminology so we won't have people calling the Mideast party chairman by like 5 different titles. Tongue
66  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Alternative Elections / Re: 2016: Cuomo/McCaskill vs. Rubio/Walker on: March 20, 2013, 08:55:21 pm
Cuomo, albeit just barely.



Cuomo/McCaskill - 272
Rubio/Walker - 266

- - -

I'm still iffy on Nevada, Colorado, and Ohio. I think they could go either way in this scenario.
67  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: do you wish you were gay? on: March 17, 2013, 09:21:09 pm
Eh, being bi is better.
68  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Liberal National Committee (LOGO & SLOGAN PROPOSALS) on: March 17, 2013, 07:44:12 pm
I believe Shua is our only candidate, though SJoyce has announced a Gubernatorial run for next month. Odysseus, I encourage you to run for ME Assembly this month!

I've got a few RL obligations that'll prevent me from pursuing office this month (my apologies, I just don't want to be that guy who disappears). I can probably run in future elections, however, and thanks for the thought.

OTOH, I'm always willing to throw out ideas and contribute proposals to the platform.

69  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Mideast Voting Booth: Presidential Succession Amendment on: March 17, 2013, 12:16:50 pm
Aye
70  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: March 17, 2013, 01:24:02 am
Ody
Liberal Party
Virginia
71  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Rank the 5 most likely nominees for each party on: March 16, 2013, 10:49:42 pm
Republicans:

1. Christie
2. Ryan
3. Paul
4. Santorum
5. Jindal

Democrats:

1. O'Malley
2. Patrick
3. Schweitzer
4. Cuomo
5. Warren
72  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: CPAC straw poll March 16 (UPDATE: results to be released at 5pm Eastern) on: March 16, 2013, 06:18:30 pm
Pleasantly surprised that The Dangerous One only won by two points! A tie!

This is a contradiction.
73  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Could Rob Portman still be a potential VP, now that he supports Gay Marriage? on: March 16, 2013, 03:31:40 pm
I think it depends on the circumstances. If the GOP has realized and corrected their current problems, then I think he'd be on more than a few candidates' shortlists. But if it's going to take a wave election or two to get the GOP back in shape, then don't count on it.
74  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Rubio: Federal Marriage Amendment "Steps on the Rights of States" on: March 16, 2013, 03:28:21 pm
This one truly should just be left to the states. Can't the gay community accept that some places just will not allow them to marry based on natural law and moral principals ever. It is a contract and the federal government needs to just step off and respect the states for once. Sorry Clarence you're on the wrong side of this issue.

Doesn't matter if he's wrong or right, he's on the winning side.

No he's not on the winning side. Eternity will judge this one vastly differently than He did racial civil rights.

I'm bisexual. I thought God was loving, and caring? I mean I'm only half broken, won't he give me a chance? Sad


I wouldve supported King and the Civil Rights folks. King would side with me today on this if he were still with us.

I honestly don't care what Martin Luther King, Jr. would have, or did think of gay marriage. And to be honest, the Civil Rights Movement - Gay Rights Movement comparison is getting a little old, and it isn't a great analogy.
75  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Santorum: 'I'm open' to 2016 bid on: November 27, 2012, 03:59:36 pm
I think Santorum is the favorite at this point, although there's not much point in handicapping the race so early. He was the strongest challenger last time, and the GOP usually goes with that. And the conservatives will demand one of their own.

No he's not. He's like Pat Buchanan, a social conservative reactionary to be the anti-establishment candidate (even though Santorum is VERY establishment in his non-social views). He's in a distant fourth or fifth right now behind Christie, Rubio, Bush, and even Ryan.

Remember when Pat Buchanan was a US Senator for 20 years?
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