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51  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Renegade Jew Strikes Again on: May 22, 2016, 05:52:02 am
What's wrong with this guy and the other Never Trump people? Don't they see that opposing Trump is a sure way to have Hillary elected?

That's the idea. The Never Trump crowd is smart. A third party run would be designed to either elect Hillary (without going forward with the political suicide of publicly supporting her) ...or throw the race to the House so that they can get past that pesky 'election' thing and install an establishment yes-man as President.
52  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How will Donald Trump supporters react to a Hillary Clinton win in the fall on: May 20, 2016, 02:33:38 pm
Other: All of the Above.
53  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: In which country is there more respect for freedom? USA or Norway? on: May 19, 2016, 11:07:31 pm
The answer is obvious.  It's the one where being gay is not an issue, where they don't lock people up for 25 years for simple drug possession, where freedom of speech and freedom of religion are truly understood, where women's reproductive rights can be taken for granted, etc.

Freedom isn't all about lasseiz-faire economics and guns.

Literally every single European country has worse freedom of speech than us.  We don't punish people for having terrible opinions, like Holocaust denial.

Is this sarcasm or do you really think the height of freedom is being able to say "the holocaust never happened"?
54  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Nate Silver eats crow on: May 18, 2016, 07:53:49 pm
Is he still defending using "endorsement points"? What a joke.

What's the problem with endorsement points?


The idea that 'endorsement points' were at all influential on the results of the primaries has surely been discredited by now.
55  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton & Trump VP search news LATEST: Carson leaks Trump's list? on: May 17, 2016, 07:56:03 am
I'm pretty confident that Scott Brown is going to be Trump's pick. I saw Manafort on CNN a couple days ago and he seemed awfully bullish on how strongly Trump was going to perform in New England.

Brown would fit into Trump wanting someone with legislative experience, and Brown himself has morphed into a more 'Trumpian' candidate on issues like immigration over the past couple months. He could stay on message as Trump's running mate as well as be reassuring to the GOPe.

Expect Trump to give a very "strong" position on abortion every time he's asked about it, because his VP pick is likely to be a disappointment to socons.

Eh? Trump will overperform in New England by selecting a running mate who lost in New England twice?
56  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama mandates All Public Schools to let Trans students use bathroom of choice on: May 17, 2016, 07:49:33 am
Guys, bigots aren't going to be convinced by a picture of a trans man and explanations of how he's gonna have to use the women's room now. They don't care. The goal is not to keep trans women out the lady's room (as should be obvious, the NC law is an unenforceable farce), it is to ensure that transgender people are excluded from society.

Society at large will become accepting within a generation or so, hopefully. But the pro-HB2 people who actually care about this issue deeply are the type of people who just wish we'd go away. I guess I am happy that Obama sent this mandate out there, but it will surely give bigots and hate-mongerers more ammunition. A sad state of affairs we are in.

This entire policy is driven by men who fantasise about what they might do if they had access to female restrooms. Dirty f-ckers.

So you side with those of us who want to keep our wives and kids safe?

So, these people are intrinsically a danger? 

The narrative for JCL seems to be "us v. 'the rapists'." So, yeah.
57  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Which convention will have more chaos? on: May 14, 2016, 08:11:55 pm
DNC will have more chaos on the inside, RNC will have more on the outside.

Although I could see Cruz's acolytes trying to start a fight over the platform.
58  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Evangelicals feel abandoned after TRUMP's ascent to being the nominee on: May 09, 2016, 08:16:43 pm
Good! One step closer to eliminating the religious right's sick and twisted influence on American politics once and for all. Smiley
59  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: How should conservatives re-evaluate their movement after this cycle? on: May 09, 2016, 08:13:18 pm
^^ With the nomination of TRUMP, there is clear demonstration that the founding fathers were right when they said the american people should not be blindly trusted to pick their own presidents. Superdelegates aren't the goal here, because this shouldn't be a group of people that the candidates are actively trying to 'woo' throughout the process, and because superdelegates can become powerless if the pledged delegate margin is large enough. Instead this should be a certain or group of highly trusted person(s) with power that is limited in scope, but absolute in the small amount of "territory" that it can be allocated in.

Or in other words.. "The people cannot be trusted to rule themselves wisely, so a council of wiser people should be given the power to 'help' the people choose who to rule."

What a great way to make sure that dastardly demagogue Donald Trump doesn't turn America into a fascist nightmare!
60  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Post your TRUMP victory maps on: May 04, 2016, 12:13:01 pm


Trump/Hostage - 296 (maybe one less if there's a #NeverTrump faithless elector)
Clinton/Castro - 242
61  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: When will Trump announce that his candidacy has been a big joke? on: May 04, 2016, 11:55:09 am
Well, he can't exactly announce it now that he's got a longshot chance to win. But I'm sure it will be a great icebreaker for diplomatic meetings over the next 4 years should he win.
62  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Opinion of the drop-outs? CRUZ edition! on: May 04, 2016, 08:03:06 am
Sparing us from this monster is probably the best thing Trump has done so far.
63  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Opinon of the Drop-Outs: Ted Cruz (Now with Both and Neither as Options) on: May 03, 2016, 09:16:02 pm
4 Atlas users have sold their souls to Lucifer. Sad!
64  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will Trump win at least one of these states? on: April 28, 2016, 07:21:06 am
Honestly, if he wins Indiana, he probably wins all of these states.
65  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What happens if at the RNC on: April 28, 2016, 07:20:09 am
The Cruz supporters bound to Trump on the first ballot vote for Cruz anyway and throw him the nomination?

Complete pandemonium. Hillary has a good shot at breaking 400 electoral votes, maybe even closer to 450-500.
66  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does Lyin' Ted regret stealing Colorado now? on: April 25, 2016, 12:13:36 am
I doubt Ted Cruz has ever felt "regret", or any of these other strange human emotions of which you speak.
67  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bill Clinton SLAMS Millenials! on: April 21, 2016, 03:32:04 pm
68  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Cruz: Trump wants big burly men in the bathroom with little girls on: April 21, 2016, 03:27:18 pm
What must be done must be done.

Watching the #NeverTrump movement lose any moral highground is incredibly satisfying, honestly.

He isn't wrong, go to the bathroom which you have the genitals for not what you want.

It's not about what we "want", it's about who we are. It's nice to see that Trump is an FF on this issue, at least for now.
69  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: In your honest opinion do you think Cruz actually hates humanity? on: April 20, 2016, 03:39:35 pm
Clearly a psychotic person, yes.

I seriously doubt the emotional intelligence and perceptive abilities of anyone who actually trusts Ted Cruz or wants him to get the nomination, let alone become President. The man is completely lacking in empathy, incredibly ambitious, and clearly believes himself to be much better than his peers - both morally and intellectually. A dangerous combination.
70  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: In your honest opinion, do you think Bernie actually hates Hillary? on: April 20, 2016, 12:03:38 am
Nah, I think he just wanted to run a simple little single-issue campaign and was truly shocked at the level of support he got.
71  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Chances to win the nomination (nationwide) on: April 19, 2016, 11:36:39 pm
Democratic nomination
Clinton: 99%
Sanders: 1%

Republican nomination
Outright Nomination: 60%
Contested Convention: 40%

Trump: 70%
Some Random Loser: 20%
Kasich: 6%
Cruz: 4%

Democratic nomination
Clinton: 99.9%
Sanders: 0.1%

Republican nomination
*Outright Nomination: 50% (Trump 100%)
Brokered Convention: 50% (Cruz 50%, Compromise 25%, Kasich 20%, Trump 5%)

*Including option where Trump gets close and convinces some uncommitted delegates.
72  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Where else will Kasich win? on: April 19, 2016, 11:20:43 pm
Nowhere. His best chance to win is Maryland but even that isn't going to happen.
73  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Predict his reaction: What if Donald Trump loses the general election? on: April 17, 2016, 10:56:31 pm
"Unbelievable that media conned so many people into voting for criminal Hillary! Sad!"
74  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump gets obliterated by Cruz forces in Georgia's District Conventions on: April 17, 2016, 01:58:03 pm
As much as I dislike Trump, this is truly disguisting.

Bullsh**t. Trump needs to be stopped and any means to do so is acceptable. Of course they are merely using the existing rules here so I don't see what the problem is.

If you had any principled reason to oppose Trump, you'd never say something like this. I can't imagine anyone who wants to stop a "fascist" would be cheering the active subversion of democracy, and voting for a man who is honestly quite similar to - and possibly much worse than - Donald Trump in views and rhetoric.

Are you being serious? When has Cruz said that all Mexicans are rapists? When has he said all Muslims should be given special ID's so they can be tracked? Has he called for all Muslims to be excluded from America? Has he even called for all 12 million illegals to be forcibly removed from the U.S.? Are his rallies full of white supremacists and neo Nazis? Are people who are Muslim or may look Muslim (people of south Asian descent) called terrorists and heckled at his rallies? Has he called for the U.S. Military to commit war crimes?

Cruz is an extremist but he is an acceptable part of the political discourse in America. What is truly scary is people like you accepting Trump as a valid part of the political discourse in America. You are validating the open use of race baiting and racial violence as an acceptable part of the political discourse in America. That is VERY, VERY scary. Scarier than Trump or his supporters.

?

I just said that Cruz is as bad or worse than Trump - meaning that both must be awful. But, I'll reiterate.

Cruz has said some pretty disgusting things, too. In the wake of the Brussels terror attacks he was talking about how great it would be if we had the police patrolling Muslin neighborhoods. This, of course, would not do anything to stop terror, but would just incite fear in the Muslim population of America. It's just more hot-headed racist rhetoric. The type of rhetoric that is supposedly your problem with Trump.

Also, Cruz HAS called on the U.S. Military to commit war crimes. He said that we should carpet-bomb the middle east to stop ISIS and "find out if sand can glow in the dark." Carpet bombing civilian areas is considered a war crime under Protocol I of the Geneva Convention.
75  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump gets obliterated by Cruz forces in Georgia's District Conventions on: April 17, 2016, 01:01:15 pm
As much as I dislike Trump, this is truly disguisting.

Bullsh**t. Trump needs to be stopped and any means to do so is acceptable. Of course they are merely using the existing rules here so I don't see what the problem is.

If you had any principled reason to oppose Trump, you'd never say something like this. I can't imagine anyone who wants to stop a "fascist" would be cheering the active subversion of democracy, and voting for a man who is honestly quite similar to - and possibly much worse than - Donald Trump in views and rhetoric.
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