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76  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: Northeast Endangered Species Act (Debating) on: September 12, 2014, 09:32:02 pm
Any questions/concerns, anyone?

Any chance we can get a rider that actively seeks to destroy poison ivy? Grin
77  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE1: Stop Weekly Special Elections Act (Debating) on: September 12, 2014, 07:12:02 pm
It's vague. I feel like it might be overly simple where we're missing obvious flaws. Session isn't defined for one. Not having a Speaker is a "vacancy in the Northeast Assembly" does the Governor get to appoint a Speaker? This bill doesn't define the position that is being filled.

Do you have any proposed revisions?

I like the idea behind this but I won't vote for it if it causes more problems than it solves.

@Talleyrand, I'll work on an amendment after seeing any suggestions Nick has, so they don't conflict.

Also motion to extend debate until Tuesday, the sixteenth.
78  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Guntaker vs Amelia Earhart on: September 12, 2014, 05:49:59 pm
Guntaker vs Amelia Earhart
79  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE1: Stop Weekly Special Elections Act (Debating) on: September 11, 2014, 07:19:34 pm
Obviously the current situation is untenable.

However, I think we ought to have a provision allowing for a special election if more than half of the term has yet to be served (like if somebody resigns a week or two after taking office.)
80  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / The Obamanation vs Operation Plunder Dome on: September 11, 2014, 06:49:11 pm
81  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Adamobawesomebiberg vs Because I Got High - Afroman on: September 10, 2014, 10:00:52 pm
82  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / BushOklahoma vs Sundials on: September 10, 2014, 09:49:41 pm
You all are really overreacting.  Its possible I could be underreacting, but you all are blowing this out of proportion.  Yes, I had a poor review yesterday and my weakness was not giving my all into the drawings while at work and watching the clock.  Yes, I have a tendency to watch the clock, but that's hereditary.  My grandmother is a clock-watcher, my mother is a clock-watcher, and I am a clock-watcher.  My dad and his parents don't know what a clock looks like.  They're totally opposite.  Because I have been watching the clock too much, I have been hurrying and paying slightly less attention to my detail and my drawings.

83  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Antonio V vs Dunwich Constituency on: September 10, 2014, 08:20:30 pm
84  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Adamobawesomebiberg vs The Orange Line on: September 08, 2014, 07:16:06 pm
85  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE3: Ratification Process Alteration Resolution (At Final Vote) on: September 08, 2014, 07:08:55 pm
86  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE1: Return to Normalcy Act (At Final Vote) on: September 08, 2014, 07:08:14 pm
87  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: Freedom of Speech Reiteration (At Final Vote) on: September 08, 2014, 07:07:38 pm
88  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / BushOklahoma vs White Coat Hypertension on: September 07, 2014, 09:27:07 pm
89  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE3: Ratification Process Alteration Resolution (Debating) on: September 07, 2014, 11:56:11 am
90  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE1: Return to Normalcy Act (Debating) on: September 07, 2014, 11:55:21 am
I'm all for civil liberties, but don't you think allowing the use of hand-held phones, laptops, cameras, or activities such as reading and drawing for a person who is simultaneously operating a car causes severe risk of injury or death?

Of course I certainly support the second clause here.

Civil liberties are the motive behind this bill, but not for reasons that you (or others) might suspect.

I don't necessarily hold that one has the right to drive while doing distractful activities such as these. However, I'm concerned about the implications of this law's enforcement and the spirit of it, rather than the letter.

The lynchpin of this bill - as I'm sure we can all interpret - is texting while driving. I'm sure every member of this assembly has a resident busybody in their circles who prattles on about the dangers of "texting while driving." However, how does one enforce that? For instance:

using hand-held cell phones in any capacity

Hypothetically speaking this bill would prohibit people from looking at their phone to check the time or using an app. Seems reasonable, but again - how does one enforce that? Heavy-handedly, in some instances.

Quote from: Katherine Mangu-Ward
The underlying issue has already worked its way into the courts. In California, Steven R. Spriggs received a $165 ticket two years ago for using his iPhone while driving in stop-and-go traffic near Fresno. A highway patrol motorcycle officer rolled up alongside his car after seeing the glow from the screen on Mr. Spriggs's face.

"I held it up and said, 'It's a map,' " Mr. Spriggs said. He was not talking on the phone, which is prohibited by California law.

But the police officer would not budge. "He said, 'Pull over, it doesn't matter,' " said Mr. Spriggs, the director of planned giving at California State University, Fresno.

It's also worth noting that a court has recently ruled that police officers need warrants to search cellphones. What police officer in their right mind would go through such an exercise for a pedestrian offense which is punishable by community service, when they could devote more time to actual violent offenses such as murder and rape?

The spirit of the law seems well-intentioned. We're all aware of the old adage regarding good intentions, and in some cases laws such as these are actually dangerous.

Quote from: techdirt.com
A new study has shown that state laws banning driving while texting have not reduced accidents, and in some cases may have even resulted in more accidents. How could it have increased accidents? Because people who want to text anyway -- especially unskilled young drivers -- begin holding their phones lower to avoid detection, making it that much more difficult to control the car and be aware of their surroundings.

For the rest of the bill - how does one enforce a prohibition on reading while driving, or grooming while driving? Seems like too much low-hanging fruit for police officers to pull people over.
91  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE1: Return to Normalcy Act (Debating) on: September 07, 2014, 10:55:25 am
No other comments on this?

92  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: Freedom of Speech Reiteration (Debating) on: September 07, 2014, 12:33:22 am
93  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: If one is 1/32nd Native American, should they be considered Native American? on: September 06, 2014, 09:14:06 pm
imagen Bushe during Trale of tears
94  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / bedstuy vs Harlem Renaissance on: September 06, 2014, 08:56:40 pm
bedstuy vs Harlem Renaissance
95  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: Freedom of Speech Reiteration (Debating) on: September 05, 2014, 07:57:38 pm
Dallasfan, I agree with you regarding the Pledge of Allegiance, but what do you think of the idea of replacing the "voluntary prayer" period with a simple moment of silence for a short period of time? Seems like it would be inoffensive to both religious and nonreligious people.

Seems fair enough - did you have a specific amendment you'd like to propose?

I agree with Dallasfan. That "Tacky" thing is incredibly dumb though.

I chose "Tacky" due to the fact that the Supreme Court struck down our noble attempt to ban Happy several months ago. If we cannot free ourselves from this phascism, I hold that our schools reserve the right to play Weird Al's parody, which has much more lyrical depth and creativity than the original.
96  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / HockeyDude vs Tony Alamo Christian Foundation on: September 05, 2014, 07:52:50 pm
HockeyDude vs Tony Alamo Christian Foundation
97  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: Freedom of Speech Reiteration (Debating) on: September 05, 2014, 12:02:56 am

In contemporary politics, the Pledge of Allegiance is a controversial issue. Some contend that students are under no obligation to utter the phrase "under god," due to the provision in the Constitution establishing the freedom of religion. The compromise has long been that students are at liberty to remain silent during the utterance of "under god." However, I believe this underscores a larger point: the Pledge of Allegiance itself is an undue compulsion of speech and thought.

This opinion isn't exclusive to Atlas. As early back as 1938, Judge Marris wrote:

Our country's safety surely does not depend upon the totalitarian idea of forcing all citizens into on common mold of thinking and acting or requiring them to render a lip service of loyalty in a manner which conflicts with their sincere religious convictions.

I don't know that it would be enough to merely make it voluntary to participate in the Pledge. Considering how ingrained it is in our culture, not standing up for the Pledge of Allegiance is tantamount to a thoughtcrime, and can lead to ostracism.

As for the school prayer thing, I may be wrong but I seem to recall real life provisions of school prayer being conditional of silence. Nothing in this bill would stop people from praying to themselves, and people may still do so during designated times of the day.
98  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: Northeast Assembly Thread II on: September 03, 2014, 12:27:24 am
99  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Federal Marriage Amendment (Debating) on: September 03, 2014, 12:11:13 am
I mean, this is incredible. Apologies, but it's RL seeping in. Polygamy is illegal in all fifty states and incest definitions / prohibitions exist in many largely because it's not really come up as an issue. No one would argue in FAVOR of incest! If you want to have sex with your sister or your first cousin, I suppose that's your choice, but in terms of legally allowing a marriage, I protest. It's completely off-the-wall bananas to say that something like that should be technically legal.

I find this positively baffling. Ought we pass this retrograde amendment simply because the American political consensus would agree with it? I'm acutely aware of the fact that my political beliefs wouldn't pass muster with an overwhelming majority of the public, but that doesn't mean argumentum ad populum is appropriate here.

Some trot out the concern that polygamous unions are associated with domestic abuse. However, we're a first-world nation. There isn't much of a control for first-world nations with legal polygamy. I would posit the opposite point: if we're truly concerned about domestic abuse, then granting legal recognition would be a great avenue for the abused party(ies) in question to seek legal redress.

As for incestuous marriages, I don't find that the line of argument about birth defections carries much weight with me. As I've written before, this is 2014, not 1814 - we know now that inbreeding can be fraught with difficulty. I don't expect many members of this body to be familiar on a first-hand basis with contraceptives, but they do exist and can help prevent pregnancies. Does anybody expect that in the rare instance that one might be attracted to their sister, a lack of legal recognition would actually prevent coitus? Wouldn't parents of the alleged defective children be more in need of legal benefits and recognition given the expenses of special education? Does it seem either logistically feasible or humane to actually criminalize incestuous relations between two consenting adults?

Lastly, if the crux of the argument against incestuous marriages is the problems with procreation, how does the Senate feel about a tarheel-leftist compromise only legalizing same-sex incestuous marriages?
100  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Dallasfan65 for Northeast Assembly on: September 02, 2014, 10:15:28 pm

Representative Dallasfan65 addresses a crowd in Boston, to his campaign song.

Thank you good people of the Northeast! As it turns out, I've been elected to another term as Representative. So long as I have a mandate, I will continue my work of criminal justice reform and expanding individual liberty in the Northeast.

I generally hold the view that competitive elections are good for Atlasia. Despite that, however, I am personally glad that all of the incumbents have been reelected - this should bear out to be a vibrant and active Assembly. There is a general mantra of "inactivity" in Atlasia but I am optimistic about the pending session.

I would also like to forewarn my fellow Northeasterners of the pending threat in the Atlasian Senate. While I'm of the opinion that this bill belongs in the company of crude cave paintings, it's nonetheless found its way onto the Senate floor. In the unfortunate event that this reaches the voting booth I would implore my region to oppose it.
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