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76  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: If the above poster ran for President, what would be his worst state? on: March 08, 2015, 06:19:58 pm
Florida
77  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post your nominations for titles for Update Season XXII here. on: March 08, 2015, 01:24:29 pm
Season XXII: Opportunities for Corporate Worship
78  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: March 07, 2015, 10:37:43 pm
Bentsen's speech was pretty weak, but I could see him saying it. Great work!

I'd figured that Bentsen would devote most of his speech to attacking Ho'kee, given that he doesn't have much else to work with.

James Garner - A Republican Senator?

The James Garner mentioned here is related to the former Vice President and is a fictional character.
79  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XXI: "Scientific Facts Are Not Hard And Fast Rules." on: March 07, 2015, 09:54:35 pm
Season XXII: Opportunities for corporate worship
80  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Porcupine: At-Large Senator Special Election Debate on: March 07, 2015, 01:19:37 pm
Thank you for your answers. Next round:



To all candidates: Who do you consider to be the best Senator Atlasia ever had, either past or present? How would you emulate their performance?

To Adam Griffin: As you would know, Labor is indisputably the majority party in this government. Bore won the Presidential Election in a rout, and Labor held three out of five regional Senate seats. If you win this election, Labor will have six Senate seats and the Presidency. How do you plan on avoiding the pitfalls that Labor encountered during the DemPGH administration, when Labor had similar control over government?

Expanding upon this, one noted initiative that you supported in your last tenure as At-Large Senator was nationalization of energy utilities. President-elect bore was a vote against your attempt, but had stated in the debate that he supported nationalization of utilities in some form. If elected, can voters expect a more nuanced attempt at nationalization, or is this a dead issue to you?

To JCL: You are notorious amongst Atlasia for your right-wing views. Given that the current make-up of the Senate is majority Labor, and several more of its members are left-of-center, how do you plan on working with the majority?

As Senator, your sole piece of legislation was the Taft-Hartley Reinstatement Act. Attempts to pass that were about as successful as the Bills' offense. Perhaps more publicized is a bill you sponsored as Mideast Assemblyman: the Mideast Right to Life Act. Can we expect more proposals like this from a hypothetical Senator JCL? If not, what issues do you plan on legislating?

To Foucaulf: You previously ran a colorful campaign for Midwest Governor where you criticized the Midwest's budget for what you considered to be fanciful revenue figures and unrealistic expenditures. You also recently criticized the 2015 Budget passed by the Senate and signed by Lumine.

Do you intend to relitigate the 2015 budget? If not, will you oppose potential spending projects that may be proposed by Labor in the future? How do you expect to work with the majority, given how critical you've been of Labor in the past?

To Poirot: You are well-known for your repeated attempts to obtain elective office. Other than a stint as Northeastern Representative, you have not succeeded. Some attempts were more successful than others. Why do you think you fail to resonate with voters?

In addition, can you expand upon your political views and what issues you may legislate if elected?
81  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: March 06, 2015, 10:10:18 pm
Trump: 1988

Thad O'Connor found himself in Areus' quarters once more, one week after the Democratic National Convention. He had been invited on short notice, but never took for granted the opportunity to be in the company of Areus Ho'kee and the luxuries that he afforded. Thad entered to find a tipsy Lawrence Coventry sitting with his feet up on Ho'kee's table, while Abimelech Delroy and Ericson Snell were on the opposite side of the room.

"Thanks for coming on such short notice, Thad," said Areus. "I'm a bit worried that Griffith and his pack of rejects are going to pose problems for us in close states. True to his nature, Griffith is holding the Working Man's Party Convention at a private venue in Dallas, Texas. This is a no-press, invite-only event, and it seems to me that the only reason he would have this event be so opaque is due to the controversial nature of some of his guests. Why else would a third party pass up on free press coverage? I'd like to go down that old road of freedom of the press, but it's Texas, and such a matter would not be resolved until after the fact."

"A party claiming to be 'for the working man', but only rich donors and established party leaders can get in. Typical considering the caliber of Davis Griffith," said Abimelech Delroy. Thad nodded his head in agreement. "He is hypocritical. But what business do we have with the affairs of the Working Man's Party?" he asked. "David Duke is in the running for this nomination. The average man does not know much about David Duke, but he will soon find out: David Duke used to be a goddamn Klansman. I can only imagine the torrent of bigotry that will come forth when he is to address this convention.

Under ideal circumstances, it is almost mathematically impossible for Paul Laxalt to have accrued enough delegates given the time that he entered the primaries. However, knowing Davis Griffith as I do, the fix is in, and he will surely find some way to engineer the nominating process to pick Paul Laxalt. This sort of affair attracts the furthest fringes of American politics, and these people tend to be quite intemperate. When it dawns upon these people that Laxalt has stolen the nomination, it won't be pretty on that convention floor.  So between that and the sort of speeches given by nutjobs, and it's hard not to see that this is ideal dirt. That's where you come in," said Areus, before holding up a wired apparatus.

"When things look like they're about to get intense, I want you to turn this on. The Working Man's Party could pose a threat in the future, which is why we need headlines like these: 'WMP Candidate: White Man Under Siege,' and 'Fists fly as Paul Laxalt Wins.' Laxalt is poised to break out, should he win, and this could be a nice brake on such momentum." Trying to comprehend all of that, Thad was still confused. "Why am I being sent on such a mission, though?" he asked. "To be simple, I had an inside man infiltrate this organization over the course of two years. Earlier this month he broke his leg and won't be in attendance. You're the closest that comes to filling his profile, which is why I need you to be wearing this wire," said Ho'kee.

Thad nodded. "Oh, and one other thing: once things go awry, you have to leave the area. Those few who are deranged enough to support Duke or Cleaver to the point of paying the fee needed to rub elbows with the interests that support the WMP will riot. These people are fanatics. Be careful," said Ho'kee. Ericson Snell rose up and interjected moments later. "There's something that does not sit right with me about this whole affair, Areus. The more I think about it, the less comfortable I feel being party to all of it. While I want to see you win as much as you do, this is a dangerous proposal.

For starters, we are Mavericks and we are Republicans. Through attrition, campaigning, and some shrewd campaign tactics, we managed to clinch the Republican nomination despite staggering odds. That's quite the feat. Now, however, you want to send a mole into a convention that the voters of the WMP recognize as private. This threatens the value of freedom of association, and the value of privacy. Don't the members of the Working Man's Party have a right to assemble and discuss their political opinions? Don't they have some reasonable expectation of privacy, and not to be caught on tape?

Secondly, I'm a bit concerned for Thad's well-being in all of this. I get that he fits the profile of whoever you had in mind to record this affair. However, Thad's a pretty distinctive looking guy. Do you really think it'll be that hard for Thad to get pinched in a crowd? It might be true that few people in Dallas will know what a Senator from Maine looks like, but Thad earned quite a bit of distinction from his filibuster. A short guy with long hair and a mustache; just how many of those are there in conservative politics?  What would happen to poor Thad if he got pinched as part of this wiretapping scheme? He could lose reelection. That could end his career, and cost Republicans a Senate seat. This seems awfully risky for no good reason," he said, finally finishing his harangue.

"I understand where you're coming from, but you're being myopic and I disagree with you in the strongest terms possible," said Ho'kee. "It is true that the Constitution affords us a right to freedom of assocation, and the right to privacy. However, one other thing that it affords us is freedom of the press, and freedom of information. While the Working Man's Party maintains the pretense of being a private club, the reality is that they will be affecting the public discourse of the general election. They will be appearing on the ballot in at least thirty-five states. I had to watch my tongue at the Republican Convention. Bentsen had to dance around the issues at his. Laxalt doesn't receive the same level of scrutiny because the Working Man's Party decides to be opaque? I call foul.

Consider the implications: had Mark Hatfield been able to get one or two percent more of the popular vote, we could have been spared of Jackson's second term. By comparison, the Working Man's Party garnered eight percent of the vote in the 1986 midterms, and Laxalt is sure to punch above the weight of his party's shoestring operation. I'm sure that you would agree that if we were to get a third term of Democratic rule it could be the downfall of this country; and if you don't, then leave this room at once.

I agree that Thad is more conspicuous than most, and he's sticking his neck out here a bit. But Thad has established his credentials as a fighter and a patriot, both in the Senate and on the battlefield. I'm confident that he's comfortable doing this. Besides, even if he were to be implicated in bugging the WMP convention, I doubt that the political backlash would be enough to cost him reelection. Even if it were, that would be far outweighed by the acquisition of the Presidency, and at this trajectory we should have Senate seats to spare. I don't need to remind you of the old adage about a bird in the hand versus two in the bush."

Ericson Snell was silent for some time, taking in what Areus had to say. An air of silence had filled the room, with each occupant uncomfortably glancing eachother, before Snell finally responded. "I'll cede the argument for the most part, but I'm still concerned about Thad's livelihood. He was part of the foundation that we built upon years ago, and rose to the occasion when it was time to do the filibuster. The youth of this country identify with him on a deeper level, and these are the voters that you've been trying to reach. You compare a bird in the hand and two in the bush, but my fear is that Thad is your bird in the hand, and you are poised to crush him in your fist. At the very least, you should get his opinion on this," he said.

"Okay. I'll cut to the chase, then. Thad, do you assent to this mission?" asked Ho'kee. "I shall do it," said Thad.
82  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: March 06, 2015, 10:02:46 pm
1988 Democratic Convention
Baltimore, Maryland
July 22nd - July 24th

Day One - Notable Speakers
Keynote Speaker: Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)
Rep. Harold Volkmer (D-MO)
Senator Joe Biden (D-DE)
Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI)

Day Two - Notable Speakers
Senator Gary Hart (D-CO)
Governor Mel Carnahan (D-MO)
Fmr. Gov. Jerry Brown (D-CA)
Rep. Barbara Kennelly (D-CT)

Day Three - Notable Speakers
Fmr. Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN)
Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA)
Vice President Birch Bayh (D-IN)
President Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)

If the Republican National Convention of 1988 could be described as risk management, then the Democratic National Convention could be described as organized chaos.

Going into the convention, the media had no clear idea as to who the official nominee would be. While Lloyd Bentsen had a plurality of delegates and insurance from superdelegates, the political reality of the situation was that winning the nomination on superdelegates would have fractured the Democratic Party beyond repair. At the same token, there seemed to be an untraversable distance between the camps of Lloyd Bentsen, Jerry Brown, and Patton Wyde, making an acquiescence of any party unlikely. Homer's Scylla and Charybdis seemed like an enviable position by comparison.

Days before the convention was to begin, it was leaked that Bentsen and Brown had reached a compromise: Brown would relinquish his delegates to Lloyd Bentsen after the first round of balloting, and in exchange President Bentsen would do the following: reform the Democratic nomination process to eliminate super-delegates, give Jerry Brown a speaking slot at the convention, and tackle campaign finance reform in his prospective second term. With a few promises, Bentsen had avoided a nasty convention struggle and helped save face.

Though it was hot and humid in Baltimore, some may have mistaken the thickness in the air for the general sense of pessimism among its attendees. Bentsen's grasp on the nomination was tenuous, and general election polls showed that he was getting drubbed by Republican nominee Areus Ho'kee. Some Democrats had been bracing themselves for the worst defeat of an incumbent President since Herbert Hoover. However, Governor Bill Clinton of Arkansas delivered a fiery keynote speech in hopes of rebounding Democratic hopes and improving his party's perception in the media.

"I have got to say, President Lloyd Bentsen has got it in spades when it comes to the difficulties before him: he inherited a difficult foreign policy situation, a Social Security program that was hemorrhaging money, and a Republican opposition that's criticized every breath he's taken. This is a man who has weathered fierce storms - some of which from his own party, and produced tremendous results. Despite overwhelming circumstances, this President has made strides toward good government and set an example for what Democrats may wish to offer in the future.

Our tax-rates were too obtrusive. The President worked with an obstinate Congress to actually reduce our tax rates and increase our revenues, thus preserving the integrity of our welfare state. Our trade laws were too cumbersome, and made it impossible for Americans to get cheap cars that didn't burn too much fuel. The President signed executive orders liberalizing our trade laws, letting the average American spend more money on their groceries instead of their gas, and even conserving some of our fossil fuels. In private, our President was opposed to the Wyde amendment, and will strongly oppose any attempts to restrict abortion on a federal level. President Bentsen has been an exemplar of what we as a party need to be: better government, instead of bigger or smaller," were some excerpts from Clinton's speech.

Upon entering, Jerry Brown was well-received amongst his fellow-travellers, and drew applause from the audience as a whole. However, his speech was poorly delivered and seemed hastily put together. He parsed the usual cliches expected of one who had been cajoled into submission, saying, "Now more than ever, it is important that this primary struggle fosters party unity. It is my sincere hope and belief that our dialogue about campaign finance has left an impression upon the President that he will not forget." After three minutes had gone by, Jerry Brown concluded his speech and unceremoniously walked off of the stage.

Walter Mondale, Ted Kennedy, and Birch Bayh, all Democratic superstars, gave speeches on the third day of the convention. Bentsen had been hoping to rally the base of the Democratic Party and give off a better image in the media. However, none of these three gave particularly inspiring speeches, thus leaving the burden on Bentsen's shoulders to salvage his electoral prospects. Bentsen gave an awkward handshake to Vice President Bayh, as the former went to the podium. "I thank those who took the effort to come here to see us in Baltimore, despite the odds that face us at the moment. Polls show us trailing Areus Ho'kee in presidential match-ups, so events like these tell you who your true friends are.

On that subject, I'd like to thank Vice President Bayh for the service that he's rendered this country. After two decades in the United States Senate, where he fought for progressive legislation, Vice President Bayh answered the calling to accept the Vice Presidency. You've been a true friend to me, and I won't forget it. Getting back to the point, however, is that it's not too popular to vote Democratic right now - which is precisely why this is the most important time to do so.

Some say that a week is a long time in politics. It's been over a decade, or hundreds of weeks, since the Republicans last retained the Presidency. Yes, the same Republican Party that had gotten us bogged down in the Vietnam War. The same Republican Party that led to out of control gas prices and shortages in the seventies. The same Republican Party that was up to its eyes in corruption with the Watergate scandal.

It's hard to go back much further than that, since we haven't had too many Republican presidents recently. But it would be abjectly irresponsible for us to return the Presidency to Republicans this election. This is a party that regained control of the House not through a democratic vote of the people, but through wheeling and dealing with fleet-footed Congressmen. This is a party that has criticized every facet of our efforts in Iran, but has no competing vision other than to 'leave as quick as we can.' This is a party whose nominee denounces my domestic record while working with me as Speaker at nearly every turn.

Folks like Areus Ho'kee and Thad O'Connor opposed supply-side tax cuts sponsored by their fellow Republicans when they were up for a vote in 1983. However, just a few years later, they voted for a Social Security reform package that lowered rates to a similar number. Ho'kee fastidiously claims that he will revitalize our declining cities, and leave our welfare state intact. Ho'kee is staunchly pro-choice, and was a leading voice against the Wyde amendment in 1985.

I'll be the first to say that most of these are commendable positions, but they could have come straight out of the Democratic playbook. It all makes you wonder about Areus Ho'kee: do we have a political coward who will buck his own party for expediency, or do we have a true progressive? Do we have a kinder and gentler GOP, or do we have a wolf in sheep's clothing that will eat its own cubs upon assuming office? Is Ho'kee lying about his convictions, or is he merely confused about them? Those voting for Ho'kee might find that they're simply voting Democrat-lite, and I would argue that you might like the taste of the real thing better.

This has not been an easy road to the Democratic nomination, but I would like to thank Patton Wyde and Jerry Brown for their participation in this contest. I believe in a truly democratic process, and as evidenced by the elections in many states, a coronation would not have done our party justice. We had a substantive dialogue on the issues facing our country, and perhaps these two have opened my eyes a bit on certain issues. One thing that was never in doubt, however, was that the greatest threat before us was four years of Republican rule. So in conclusion, I ask the American people that they vote for myself and Daniel Patrick Moynihan this November, to continue progressive policy in this great country."
83  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Porcupine: At-Large Senator Special Election Debate on: March 05, 2015, 08:03:43 pm
OK. Most rounds of questioning will feature one question for all candidates, and then candidate-specific questions. However, I'm going to open up with just one question.



To all candidates: While this is just a game, none of us run simply for the sake of running (or shouldn't at least). So that being said, how do each of you justify your candidacy in this election? What problem(s) do you seek to ameliorate, and what makes you superlatively qualified for this seat? How do you plan to contribute to the institution that is the Senate of Atlasia?
84  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / The Porcupine: Special Election Debate Commentary Thread on: March 05, 2015, 06:16:02 pm
For citizens to comment or submit potential questions, this is the thread to do it.

Citizen-submitted questions may be introduced by me at the end of the debate, based on their merit.
85  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / The Porcupine: At-Large Senator Special Election Debate on: March 05, 2015, 06:14:15 pm
This will be the main debate thread. Only candidates for the At-Large Special Election and myself are to post in this thread.

I'll be opening up with the first question in a few hours.
86  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: I want a debate on: March 05, 2015, 04:10:57 pm
I could do it.

I would be amenable to that.

Great.

DK, JCL, are you open to this?
87  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: I want a debate on: March 04, 2015, 07:34:43 pm
I could do it.
88  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Democratic-Republican Party Convention, February 2015 on: March 04, 2015, 01:57:13 am
I'm not sure if this is still open, but I'd like to ask for the Democratic-Republican Party's nomination in the upcoming at-large Senate special election and to be given the time to speak to the convention.

I am in no actual position of authority, but I would like to extend the invitation to Adam to speak at this convention.
89  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Wulfric vs LeBron FitzGerald on: March 04, 2015, 12:04:42 am
Went out today with one of my best friends from school and we had a blast! We went to Lakewood Park and hung out with a group of guys near the skate park for awhile and later managed to get enough people for a basketball game since there was a court right by there. Our team lost, but afterwards, we all went onto the giant tire swing in the park and played on that for awhile. After, me and my friend took a walk on the path along the shore and walked down to where the "rock parkour path" was and I was a bit hesitant to do it, but he talked me into it and jumped, walked, hopped and climbed over tons of large/small rocks above the water until we couldn't go any further. We found some really weird stuff on the way to like a blue foam "Y" sign, a broken traffic cone, a garage sale sign, toothpaste, a deflated balloon, and plenty of bricks. We took the blue foam thingy as a souevenir. Nobody else was there so we just shared some laughs, talked and looked at the waves and what looked to be downtown Cleveland in the distance. He put his arm around me and I put mine around him and joked "I'll never let go!" and referenced Jack/Rose. We questioned each other on how Titanic at one second, but the next we looked at each other and realized something was happening between us.

From there, we returned back up to the park and talked some more on my car's bumper for a little bit and went to grab a bite to eat at Steak n' Shake and while we were waiting for our food, we saw this funny-looking old, tattooed guy spending quarter after quarter to try and get a prize from one of the machines. We headed back to my friend's mom's house from there, and began watching Halloween on Netflix. The movie was obviously really scary (and his dog even got scared to, I think lol), but it allowed us to cuddle some more and it got to the point where we started kissing each other for the first time. We finished the movie (with some odd screams from a girl which made the dog bark) and played some GTA on his Xbox for about an hour. By that point, it was 9 and relatively dark and both of us said we had a great day. We kissed again before I left, but it happened while his dog came to pee outside, so the romance was cut off lol. A great day though and this is going to be a great summer!
90  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Senator Polnut - Running for reelection. on: March 03, 2015, 11:22:53 pm
I can promise a strong preference man. Good luck!
91  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the execution of the Romanovs on: March 03, 2015, 09:55:43 pm


No, this revolution was entirely of my own doing.  Chavez was on board instantly after I told him (which I didn't tell them until AFTER the coup and execution.)  Kim took some more persuading, basically concerned about the masses, but he sees the need in putting an end to the Greek coalition because I wasn't getting any legitimate bites from anywhere else. He sees the need, but not necessarily agrees with THIS particular coup.  I think Chavez and I have ironed his fears out, though.  Now, it's up to the workers to produce (no pun intended)!
92  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Which Party Should I Join? on: March 02, 2015, 01:17:18 am
93  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Wulfric vs The Normal Heart (2014) on: March 01, 2015, 06:46:58 pm
http://youtu.be/cp0w6j9bw-I?t=44s
94  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Retromike's "Fear and Hockey in Las Vegas." on: February 27, 2015, 06:28:22 pm
Please follow the script, Retro, and do what we are expecting of you. I urge you to.

Is this a death threat?


...how is that in any way a threat? What?!

This is serious- people have been banned for this very thing. How on Earth can that be considered a threat?!?!

What do you think most people are expecting, given retromike's.. err. reputation?
95  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Retromike's "Fear and Hockey in Las Vegas." on: February 27, 2015, 06:07:53 pm
Please follow the script, Retro, and do what we are expecting of you. I urge you to.

Is this a death threat?
96  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: Unfortunate Son on: February 26, 2015, 08:58:11 pm
It's back, and in full force. Grin
97  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Irony Oremine on: February 26, 2015, 01:44:47 am
I'm getting tired of everybody putting off
98  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of The Romanovs on: February 23, 2015, 09:45:15 pm
Had it coming!

I am secure enough in my ideology that I do not believe a word you said.  Your post is just The Owning Class trying to twist Das Kapital to convince me North Korea is going to be bankrupt. Wrong lumpen.  I am saved by redistribution of the means of production, not my work.  You apparently didn't read the passages about class consciousness.  When Trotsky died at a hospital, his last words were "I will not survive this attack. Stalin has finally accomplished the task he attempted unsuccessfully before."
99  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Maxwell/Dallasfan65 for President - Concession Speech on: February 23, 2015, 01:00:53 am
OK. As evinced by the returns, bore has won a mandate.

This was a relatively brief campaign, but regardless, I would like to thank Maxwell for giving me the opportunity to reprise my role as Vice Presidential nominee one last time. Despite this loss, I think there is great potential ahead of you, and I consider you a great friend. In our short time running, we managed to bring forth some substantive ideas and hopefully will be able to influence the national discourse.

All of that being said, bore ran an active campaign and was thoroughly engaged with concerned citizens. I won't try to argue the point that Atlasia lost out tonight, because bore has the potential to be a great President, as evidenced by his tenure in the Senate. Bacon King indisputably has the experience to execute the duties of Vice President, so I suspect that there will be no issues on that front.

Cheers.
100  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Northeast Voting Booth: February 2015 General Election on: February 22, 2015, 11:14:02 pm
Governor:

[1] Sawx

Assembly:

[1] MattVT
[2] Write-in: Lawrence Coventry
[3] RGN08
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