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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pelosi is Confronted By Protesters Angry About Her Immigration Talks With Trump on: September 19, 2017, 10:06:33 am
I still don't know how terrible a path to citizenship is for people who haven't committed crimes. And by crimes I mean violent crimes or sale of illegal drugs (not marijuana). Get them on a path, have them start to pay back taxes, everyone wins. Don't see what's so bad about that.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: North Korea Mega Thread on: September 19, 2017, 09:58:09 am
Im listening to Trump talk about North Korea at the UN and I cant say I entirely hate it. He's just saying what we all know to be true, If North Korea attacks South Korea or Japan(or the USA for that matter) they will be destroyed. Its not a shocking development like the media is making it out to be.

Because most other Presidents haven't tried to have a dick waiving competition like Trumpy started.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: CNN: Paul Manafort wiretapped by U.S government on: September 19, 2017, 09:30:46 am
So I guess Trump was wiretapped to, just like he said.

No? Unless Trump is Manafort then how could he be wiretapped? Unless you'd call anyone who talks to Manafort as being "wiretapped" as well which doesn't make sense.

Trump's tweet said Trump Tower was tapped. Manafort had had an office with a phone in Trump Tower as the campaign manager, which was probably tapped.

Yeah, but Trump said Obama wiretapped him and Trump Tower which is false. If a phone was for Manafort in Trump Tower that doesn't mean "the tower" was wiretapped or they were tapping him. Semantics.
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread - Walker far underwater on: September 19, 2017, 09:25:49 am
1. Walker said he will likely announce on November 3.

2. Clarke has to fix his thesis or he could have it taken away. HAHAHA
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump approval ratings thread 1.1 on: September 19, 2017, 09:21:13 am

Well yes, it's not hard for many of us to have left the party with the crap we have to deal with now. We also aren't going to believe that Obama was a Kenyan Muslim who wanted to bring Sharia law to the US. I know many of the older, uneducated group who really do believe that sadly enough.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Senate proposes massive military spending & passes a 700 B Defense budget on: September 19, 2017, 09:18:57 am
Where's the fiscal responsibility? The military doesn't even know where half the money it gets goes now! Oh, you only care about that when it is social projects? I got it.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: CNN: Paul Manafort wiretapped by U.S government on: September 19, 2017, 09:15:07 am
So I guess Trump was wiretapped to, just like he said.

No? Unless Trump is Manafort then how could he be wiretapped? Unless you'd call anyone who talks to Manafort as being "wiretapped" as well which doesn't make sense.
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why can't republicans acknowledge the fact that they've lost on abortion? on: September 19, 2017, 08:42:05 am
I don't like abortion, should strongly be discouraged and people given every opportunity to not do it (adoption, etc) but it's also amusing to tell Republicans it's freedom to allow it and you're taking away people's freedom to ban it. Makes their heads explode.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) asks Trump to pardon Julian Assange on: September 19, 2017, 08:40:37 am
Someone should tell dopey Dana that Assange is an Australian citizen

Long live our Russian overlords and puppet orange God King child!

Isn't  the puppet orange God King child (God you're such an ass) in favor of putting Assange in front of a firing squad?  I'm pretty sure he is.

Probably loves him since he helped his campaign. He'd give him the title "security chief" or something.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) asks Trump to pardon Julian Assange on: September 19, 2017, 08:33:20 am
Someone should tell dopey Dana that Assange is an Australian citizen

Long live our Russian overlords and puppet orange God King child!
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pelosi is Confronted By Protesters Angry About Her Immigration Talks With Trump on: September 19, 2017, 08:31:59 am
The entitlement. She is working to get the DACA initiatives etched into law and preventing the Wall. Like are you serious?! These people are so counterproductive and I'm sure other DREAMers don't agree with their actions.

A politician working with the GOP president to try and save you. Oh, the horror. *eyeroll*
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump approval ratings thread 1.1 on: September 18, 2017, 12:36:40 pm

Trump and Sessions wants to take their weed, of course they don't like it!
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Clinton on Maddow last night. Why do people hate her? on: September 15, 2017, 10:03:32 pm
Because Hillary Clinton actively and avidly seeks to destroy huge swathes of the electorate in order to fortify her own position. Hillary would be happy to watch my relatives in WV starve to death, because there is "no room" for them in her America.  Anyone who voted for her with the desire to see her as President as opposed to a desire to see Donald Trump not be President is effectively endorsing this.

Very unfair!



It is too bad. It's also too bad your beloved leader decided to permit the completion of the Keystone XL pipeline, something that will only speed up the rot of whatever heroin-infested hellhole your aunts live in. At least they were lucky enough to be spared Hillary's Final Solution for rural whites!
And this why I hold you in equal contempt as her, "socialist"-VA.

Shouldn't your aunt and brother have personal responsibility and pull themselves up by their bootstraps? If they need government help they're just worthless commies who should die in your ideology.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Clinton on Maddow last night. Why do people hate her? on: September 15, 2017, 10:56:02 am
No one is saying that Hillary is a great political genius or ran a wonderful campaign - although she did get further than any other woman in history, may well get further than any woman in her generation (older boomers born 1946-55) ever will, which is saying something. It's the the vitriolic reaction to her that is so over-the-top that it has exposed what a misogynistic society we live in, and that's why Hillary is a hero for exposing it, and that's why we need more Hillarys.

We might need more women running, but anything but more Hillarys

No, we need more Hillary's until the rage she inspires is drawn out root and branch, and ground into dust.

That's never happened with hate in the history of the world.  It just festers and gets worse.

Hate has been defeated. When the first women's conventions were held in the 1850s, men literally rioted at the prospect of a woman speaking in public. It's all about socialization.

Time will make it better as the grumpy dinosaurs keep on passing.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bloomberg: Trump to Announce Apple Supplier Foxconn Opening Wisconsin Plant on: September 15, 2017, 09:06:16 am

It's going to be in Racine, by the freeway, in a more rural area. Its passed, just waiting for Walker to get back to sign. Awful deal but the nice Republican people of that area of Racine are going to get hosed with new taxes and fees.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: ESPN Sportscenter Anchor calls Trump White Supremacist on: September 15, 2017, 09:01:21 am
I think news and sports anchors should be able to speak their mind as long as it's outside the program. Curt Schilling should still be with ESPN and so should she.

According to Trumpers sports people are only paid to do sports and shouldn't speak out about anything and just do their job. Ignores the fact that they're not paid to speak about politics but do it too....
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump approval rating trend if he becomes Mr. Bipartisan? on: September 15, 2017, 08:58:07 am
I would still think he's a piece of trash but he can at least be a useful idiot to get important things past his idiocy.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Clinton on Maddow last night. Why do people hate her? on: September 15, 2017, 08:43:44 am
Hypocrisy, voted for the wall of her husband and mockery of women raped by her husband.

She called deplorable those who gave victory to her husband.

Love the "hypocrisy" line as then you all stand shoulder to shoulder with Trump/Fox News as they actually rape women.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SF has third worst traffic, city govt to make sure it stays that way... on: September 15, 2017, 08:41:12 am
I see you've fallen victim to the fallacy that road expansion will alleviate traffic. You need more public transit (trains, buses) to get people out of their cars, it's the only way it'll go down. You increase lanes/capacity more people will just use it, no change.

Can we not do both? There's two freeways near me thst are always completely horrible. One is a two lane and the other is one lane. An expansion would easily alleviate some congestion.

Freeway expansion has never caused traffic alleviation. It will be just as bad with more people.
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SF has third worst traffic, city govt to make sure it stays that way... on: September 15, 2017, 08:36:22 am
I see you've fallen victim to the fallacy that road expansion will alleviate traffic. You need more public transit (trains, buses) to get people out of their cars, it's the only way it'll go down. You increase lanes/capacity more people will just use it, no change.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why are Republicans so bad at governing? on: September 14, 2017, 10:13:33 am
Not that hard to figure out, when you run on massive tax cuts and keep cutting taxes you have no money to do anything else that needs to be done and then the rest fall apart from there. The free market fairies aren't going to give you money for roads/schools/etc.

At least in Milwaukee it has devolved in to:

1. Cut taxes
2. Only spend money on roads and cops
3. Use control to destroy Milwaukee/local control is only good if you're conservative.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why are Republicans so bad at governing? on: September 14, 2017, 07:50:50 am
Not that hard to figure out, when you run on massive tax cuts and keep cutting taxes you have no money to do anything else that needs to be done and then the rest fall apart from there. The free market fairies aren't going to give you money for roads/schools/etc.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Email from Kobach-led voter fraud commissioner: Keep Democrats off panel on: September 14, 2017, 07:43:32 am
Translation: They'll insist we use facts and data and not just out psychotic delusions that there is widespread voter fraud because!
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump approval ratings thread 1.1 on: September 13, 2017, 02:25:04 pm
Tax reform will cause suburb gop to trend d

Can't wait to have MI, PA, WI, and IA back in the Democratic column!

We have three of the dreariest years in American history in which to wait.
For you they will be bad but for true Americans they will not be. 8 years of a weak corrupt and parasitic government, now it's your turn to cry like us.


I haven't cried over Trump's presidency and I don't know too many people who have. Good to know you sat around crying like a little girl for eight years when Obama was president, though.

Also, note how the benefit of Trump's presidency that he points out is that "now it's your turn to cry like us". Nothing about policy, just emotions. Who are the snowflakes again?

Well that's what happens when most conservative politics has devolved to "making liberals cry", cutting taxes for the rich and hating minorities/women.
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "Medicare for all" Mega Thread - 16 Co-sponsors, Shaheen is the latest on: September 13, 2017, 10:37:19 am
Feel free to move left, Democrats. Your suburban gains will be gone in a flash. Do they genuinely believe this will play well with upper middle class voters they've been courting? Those are the individuals this would hurt the most with the increased tax burden.

You're right, they'd lose voters they're courting that probably don't want to vote for them. But if they can fully win over/back all the blue collar/poor rural voters with this the GOP is in a major hurt.
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