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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NYPD officers shot dead as "revenge" for Garner decision. on: Today at 09:33:08 pm


(he's now deleted the tweet)

...and reposted it half an hour later.

2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: PA2: Promote Marriage Diversity Act on: Today at 12:39:57 pm
Sometimes people must be denied rights for the greater good of society. If polygamy has been proven time and again to result in awful situations for mothers and children, then why should we legalize it for some nebulous idea of giving "freedom"?

This is not a nebulous idea, nor has it been "proven time and again" to have disastrous results. If you have never met a normal, polyamorist family, that says more about the limits of your own experience than it does about the nature of reality. In short, you are empirically wrong.

Moreover, to argue that we ought to prohibit polygamy because of a few Mormon apostates who scratch out a living on the edge of the desert is akin to arguing that we ought to prohibit marriage because a husband might beat his wife. Yes, a husband might beat his wife, these things happen every day after all, and in the past both rape and violence were endemic, even essential, aspects of marriage. But to argue against marriage as we understand it today on this basis miss the point rather egregiously, don't you think so?
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: PA1: End Predatory Gambling Act on: December 19, 2014, 05:59:22 pm
Let's table this nonsense.

How encouraging to see that the next session of the Assembly will be one of vigorous and informed debate!
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Standing for Mideast Assemblyperson: CrabCake on: December 19, 2014, 05:57:56 pm
You have my endorsement. Good luck.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Cris Survey - Papal Patch. on: December 19, 2014, 05:56:44 pm
As much as I appreciate a good joke, comparing us to Jones is overboard.

That's an ominously violent choice of metaphor coming from a representative of what is essentially a nation of ships.
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Cris Survey - Papal Patch. on: December 19, 2014, 03:34:49 pm
...so you're suggesting that visiting a year before would be a swell idea?
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Flo for IDS Emperor on: December 18, 2014, 05:54:03 pm
Would "inhumane" forms of gambling include horse racing?
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Flo for IDS Emperor on: December 18, 2014, 05:11:15 pm
So your answer is... none? You don't support any restrictions any gambling?
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Vermont Has Bailed on Single-Payer Health Care on: December 18, 2014, 05:08:46 pm
Matt's post supports everything I've heard from Vermont over the past six months. This isn't political cowardice. If that were the case, Shumlin would have given up long ago, well before he nearly lost reelection.

This project may have had a chance if Vermont were building a health care system from scratch. But the transition to single payer would have been painful for everyone involved, and Vermont is not a rich state.
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Flo for IDS Emperor on: December 18, 2014, 04:28:11 pm
What regulations do you support on gambling?

(Really a non answer but) I think the current regulations are fine.

What are the current regulations?
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Flo for IDS Emperor on: December 18, 2014, 03:20:02 pm
What regulations do you support on gambling?
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Fun fact: NCYankee has been in the Senate for over half of its existence on: December 18, 2014, 03:19:01 pm
I think we would all appreciate it if you proofread your posts, particularly the longest ones.
13  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: New Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Class on: December 18, 2014, 03:17:29 pm
John Lydon's hilarious 1996 letter in answer to the Sex Pistols induction is probably the most dignified possible response to being recognized by this so-called "hall of fame."
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of incorporating candles into Hannukah celebrations on: December 18, 2014, 02:55:13 pm
In fairness, the crucifix thread was bizarre and ignorant. (I had presumed that it was a joke.) Most branches of Christianity are so steeped in crucifixion imagery that it would be more unusual if that symbol were not present for any given occasion.

This is truly one of the most flawed comparisons to a poll someone disagrees with. You celebrate Hanukkah's eight days and nights by lighting candles, and Christmas is a celebration of Christ's birth, not his death.

Because one has nothing to do with other? Huh
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Cris Survey - Papal Patch. on: December 18, 2014, 02:36:04 pm
(In other words, Rpryor, come home. We love you and don't want you to get hurt.)
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Cris Survey - Papal Patch. on: December 18, 2014, 02:35:20 pm

Establishing diplomatic relations with the Papal Patch today would be like establishing diplomatic relations with the Peoples Temple Agricultural Project in 1977.
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Youth Employment Act (Passed) on: December 18, 2014, 02:33:19 pm
I think that everyone realizes that, and maybe handling the matter in a single line is simply a concession to the fact that this is a game. Nevertheless, it creates a worrying amount of "street-level discretion," i.e. capricious enforcement. If I were a parent running a small shop, I would be paranoid about my neighbors ratting me out the the feds.
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Governor Varavour - election upcoming! on: December 18, 2014, 02:19:52 pm
Congrats, Mr. Governor.

Can we take oath now?

The next session of the Council will begin tomorrow at noon, Pacific time.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Youth Employment Act (Passed) on: December 18, 2014, 02:14:38 pm
There is not much point in my pointing this out now, but the lack of an exemption for family-owned businesses in Section 3 could pose problems for enforcement. It assumes a clear division between household chores and helping with the family business that does not actually exist in many, or even in most, cases.
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: PA3: An End to Graft Act on: December 18, 2014, 02:07:17 pm
You cannot simultaneously maintain that A) one course of action is untenable because it will reduce tax revenue and B) another is equally unacceptable because it will increase tax revenue.

However, costs are not the only reason to eliminate spending on these tax incentives:

1) The "Shop At Pacific Act" is protectionist trash that probably violates Atlasia's version of the Commerce Clause.
2) The Pacific Hiring Incentives Act expired months ago.
3) The "Small Business Start Up Loan Act" effectively forces established businesses to back risky loans with their tax dollars - loans that are made through commercial banks, with no accountability. These banks choose who gets a loan, turn a profit if the loan succeeds, and lose nothing if the loan fails.
4) The School Tax Credit Act is a massive government subsidy to private schools and textbook companies that has contributed to cost inflation since it took effect.
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE1: Shared Economy Liberation Act (Debating) on: December 17, 2014, 09:16:25 pm
This is a current topic in many places around the world. France is planning to ban Uber next year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/16/business/international/france-says-it-will-ban-ubers-low-cost-service-in-new-year.html?_r=0

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Critics contend that the service represents unfair competition for other taxi operators, and falls afoul of many licensing rules across Europe. That has led cities across Europe, including Brussels and Berlin, to outlaw the budget car service.

“Currently, those who use UberPop are not protected in case of an accident,” Mr. Brandet told the French news channel BFM TV, on Monday. “So not only is it illegal to offer the service, but for the consumer, it’s a real danger.”

"Unfair competition" is basically a politically-charged nonsense term.
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: PA2: Promote Marriage Diversity Act on: December 17, 2014, 07:40:39 pm
A morally bankrupt piece of legislation that would open the door to having brothers and sisters marrying.

This legislation concerns group marriages, not incest. It is bizarre that you would equate the two.
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: PA3: An End to Graft Act on: December 17, 2014, 07:37:26 pm
I don't find doing away with incentives and tax credits at a time when the Pacific economy is the worst in Atlasia very wise.

Does this region which is in dire straits really need to get rid of tax revenue?

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24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 1 out of 5 Republicans Agree: Rectally feeding suspected terrorists is a-ok! on: December 17, 2014, 03:43:30 pm
Lake's claims in that are article are weaker than you imply, Cassius. He only contends that 1) Ammar al-Baluchi (and comparable figures) spent time in Pakistani custody, 2) Pakistani interrogators frequently use torture, and 3) Ammar al-Baluchi provided the US with information that was used to find Osama Bin Laden.

He does not claim - and has no evidence to suggest - that torture was instrumental in collecting "vital intelligence," let alone in preventing a terrorist attack in the United States.
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: PA1: End Predatory Gambling Act on: December 17, 2014, 03:28:52 pm
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