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101  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Regulatory Overhaul and Review Act (Debating) on: September 08, 2014, 05:16:34 pm
Wouldn't it make more sense to amend or repeal the laws that give executive agencies the power to formulate regulations? It's not as if their regulatory authority comes out of thin air.
102  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The GM Assistance/Keeping Things Moving Act (Debating) on: September 08, 2014, 05:13:04 pm
The game wouldn't be all that different if we all abolished the Game Moderator.
103  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Most Serene Representative Gass3268's Reelection Office on: September 08, 2014, 05:08:39 pm
Welcome back, Gass! Endorsed.
104  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Bicameralism Discussion Thread on: September 08, 2014, 10:58:19 am
To be frank, this idea needs to die. The virtue of consolidation is that it creates larger concentrations of active players in the remaining regions. There's a real cost involved in destroying a region and its years of history, and this experiment -which would disperse active players - is not worth that cost. And how would a Senate that barely functions with 10 members manage with only 6?

More to the point, what is the benefit of a second house? Why is worth abolishing regions and sacrificing almost half of the Senate's seats? I don't think these questions have a satisfying answer. We should move on.
105  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Partisan history of every US Senate seat on: September 08, 2014, 10:40:30 am
From The Fix:

106  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Cuomo v. Teachout on: September 08, 2014, 09:25:19 am
Teachout has done most of her campaigning in the city and has been mostly ignored by Upstate media (although a small newspaper in the Adirondacks endorsed her last week).

That's not completely true. She's been upstate quite a bit lately and has been getting a decent amount of coverage in my stomping grounds at least (Poughkeepsie, New Paltz, Woodstock - she was actually just interviewed on Radio Woodstock this morning, etc.).

My roots are showing because my first instinct was to laugh at calling any of those places 'Upstate.' But you raise a fair point about the Hudson Valley and the Catskills. Woodstock and New Paltz are the kind of places that I'd expect to lean toward a candidate like Teachout anyway, but these regions are the heart of anti-fracking sentiment in NY state (which contrasts with the Southern Tier counties west of Binghamton and Ithaca, where popular opinion is far more divided).
107  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Cuomo v. Teachout on: September 08, 2014, 09:18:18 am
See the edit that I made to my last comment just after posting it. A shrinking few anti-abortion Catholics aside, Upstate NY is relatively free of politically-motivated religious nuts. Gun control has dominated the headlines, but the people who are most upset with Cuomo are concerned about issues like tax rates and local control of government.
108  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Cuomo v. Teachout on: September 08, 2014, 09:12:22 am
Cuomo is well-liked by the democrats?

Averroes, the NY democrats are relatively moderate???

In rural and suburban Upstate NY, they tend to be. Many (most?) of our Republicans are, too, although that's beginning to change. Of course we benefit from not having many religion cases involved in politics here.
109  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Scott Brown sums up the bottom line of the American Right on: September 08, 2014, 09:10:48 am
He's correct in that "jobs created" is a agonizingly stupid metric for evaluating the success of a policy or government program.

On the other hand, I would be shocked if he isn't on the record bragging about either his or some other Republican's record on "job creation."
110  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Cuomo v. Teachout on: September 08, 2014, 09:06:34 am
On the other hand, I did find these charmingly kitschy anti-Hillary banners on one Upstate politics blog:



111  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Cuomo v. Teachout on: September 08, 2014, 09:01:07 am
Teachout has done most of her campaigning in the city and has been mostly ignored by Upstate media (although a small newspaper in the Adirondacks endorsed her last week).

Also remember that while there is plenty of anti-Cuomo resentment in Upstate NY, not much of it is coming from Democrats.
112  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Final Predictions for the NY Gov./Lt. Gov. Primaries (9/9/14) on: September 08, 2014, 08:47:19 am
GOVERNOR

69% - Cuomo
28% - Teachout
   2% - Credico

Teachout does best in the city. Other than a few college towns and maybe places like Lake Placid, Cuomo dominates Upstate and LI. Teachout wins no counties.

LT. GOVERNOR

60% - Hochul
40% - Wu

Similar pattern as Gov, but Hochul underperforms Cuomo everywhere south of Albany. She might be do better than Cuomo in Western NY, but the margin for improvement will be low because Teachout will probably do poorly there.
113  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Federal Marriage Amendment (Tabled) on: September 07, 2014, 04:30:51 pm
This isn't going to pass. It will continue to be tabled, so why waste your own time?

Maybe he'll listen if someone cites a verse from Leviticus that supports tabling the bill?
114  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Are deliberately unemployed people a drain on society? on: September 07, 2014, 11:23:32 am
Definitions are important here. Who counts as 'deliberately unemployed'? Stay-at-home parents? The disabled? The old? Students?
115  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Cuomo v. Teachout on: September 07, 2014, 08:05:49 am
How Cuomo's father managed to lose 20 years ago???

George Pataki promised that he'd start executing people again, and Cuomo was running for a fourth term.
116  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Cuomo v. Teachout on: September 07, 2014, 08:02:47 am
How many of the registered NY Democrats live in NYC?

Who knows, maybe I can get a few people to vote for her.

You support a Teachout win in order to let Astorino have a chance to pull an upset? Tongue

Along those lines, but the last time I hoped for something like that to happen I ended up with Mayor Bill de Blasio...

who's now shilling for your party to hold the Senate. So it's not awful for you.

No, Cuomo isn't so bad. But I mean they elected Pataki, so why not...?

That reminds me of the bizarre quote that brought Cuomo's 2002 gubernatorial bid to an unceremonious end:

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Pataki stood behind the leader. He held the leader's coat. He was a great assistant to the leader. But he was not a leader. Cream rises to the top, and Rudy Giuliani rose to the top.
117  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Cuomo v. Teachout on: September 07, 2014, 02:40:10 am
Hillary Clinton is robocalling for Cuomo/Hochul

I guess she wants to stop New York from electing a female governor over a corrupt male incumbent. It'll be good to remember to bring this up when she or her supporters mention something about the "glass ceiling".

I agree with Bacon King. 'Corrupt' is the operative word, not 'female.' It's downright scary that virtually every current and former elected Democrat in the state, up to and including Clinton, is willing to play along with it.
118  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: АverroŽs vs. PPT TNF on: September 06, 2014, 08:49:34 pm
Thank you. Does the President of the Senate have any listed Constitutional powers other than breaking ties, and presiding over impeachment hearings? Those are the only two items that I can find so far. The issue is to fathom here is just what it is that an acting President of the Senate does as a Constitutional function, if that person cannot break ties.

No; those would be his or her only Constitutional functions.
119  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVI: Sidejackin' it in the Train Room. on: September 06, 2014, 06:14:56 pm
Bushie's sister in law dropping some truth bombs...

Yeah... he was ripped off when he got in the drive through window. $8 for two eggs and biscuits? That's like a 90% profit margin.

You said it wrong...  The biscuits rang up to $7.57, so I gave them 2 five's, but I only got 43 cents back instead of $2.43.  I thought it was incredibly dishonest, but there was a long line behind me so I didn't feel like holding up traffic for 2 singles.  I make enough money that I won't miss the change, so it's alright.

You're that rich? I thought you were a debtor?

Even when you make $11.00 an hour and even though you're between paydays, $2.00 is not going to make a difference.  What that amounts to is missing out on 4 cans of Dr. Pepper at work.  What harm can that do?  Think about it.  That's all I use one dollar bills for nowadays.  Whenever I go out to eat, I try to use fives or higher or my debit card and take the resulting ones and put it in my refreshment fund for work.  I take the quarters and put them in my laundry fund.

Two dollars toward your credit card loans today might save you several times that amount in the future, depending on the interest rate, but that's not my point.

You should be more concerned about the thousands of dollars that you are wasting by eating out several times per week. You could be feeding yourself healthful, filling meals for far less.
120  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVI: Sidejackin' it in the Train Room. on: September 06, 2014, 04:31:12 pm
Bushie's sister in law dropping some truth bombs...

Yeah... he was ripped off when he got in the drive through window. $8 for two eggs and biscuits? That's like a 90% profit margin.

You said it wrong...  The biscuits rang up to $7.57, so I gave them 2 five's, but I only got 43 cents back instead of $2.43.  I thought it was incredibly dishonest, but there was a long line behind me so I didn't feel like holding up traffic for 2 singles.  I make enough money that I won't miss the change, so it's alright.

You're that rich? I thought you were a debtor?
121  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Senate Protest and Analysis Thread on: September 06, 2014, 11:32:30 am
Good question. Yesterday I noticed there was no swearing in for senate yet. The election was almost two weeks ago. I figured maybe it's two full weeks after the election has ended. I haven't gone to check what the rules say to know the exact dates, I just go by memory of a delay of about two weeks.

The Constitution specifies that newly elected Senators should swear in after noon on the first Friday of the month after the election, IIRC.
122  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Senate Protest and Analysis Thread on: September 06, 2014, 10:51:39 am
Wasn't yesterday inauguration day for the new Senate?
123  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Department of International Affairs: Atlasia supports Anti-IS offensive on: September 06, 2014, 09:29:19 am



ATLASIA PROVIDES AIR SUPPORT AS IRAQI AND KURDISH FORCES BEGIN ANTI-IS OFFENSIVE

Good morning.

After several hours of fierce fighting Friday evening, Iraqi and Kurdish forces in northern Iraq recaptured Iraq's largest dam from Islamic State (IS) militants. The Mosul dam supplies water and electricity to northern Iraq, and could have been used to flood downstream areas, including Baghdad.

Atlasia provided air support for the effort. Reaper drones flying out of Turkey destroyed over two dozen IS vehicles stationed in the area, including several M198 howitzers, at least one ZU-23 anti-aircraft cannon, and numerous battle tanks. IS casualties are estimated in the hundreds. The Iraqi military took dozens of captives, including several mid-ranking commanders.

IS forces in Mosul are now completely surrounded, with Kurdish forces to the north and Iraqi forces blocking all routes to the south. Iraqi forces stationed only several miles outside the city reported hearing gunfire coming from the city earlier this morning. Their intelligence suggests that this was the sound of a clash between IS militants and members of the Kataeb al-Mosul resistance group. The same group claimed responsibility for an explosion near Mosul's airport, which apparently destroyed at least of one of several helicopters that IS had captured weeks before.

Atlasia will support Iraqi and Kurdish forces as they continue their offensive. Earlier this morning, the Atlasian Air Force launched the first in a series of strikes on IS supply lines, with B-2 stealth bombers inflicting heavy damage on IS supply depots and key routes into Syria in Al-Anbar and Nineveh provinces. The goal of these strikes is to severely impair the ability of IS militants to resupply and redeploy across northern Iraq, which has so far been key to their success.

Over the next week, Atlasia will begin to provide additional humanitarian assistance to refugees in Iraqi territory. I have earmarked $1.5 billion out of the Department of State's foreign aid budget for this purpose. I am also encouraged to see other countries providing assistance to the Iraqi and Kurdish governments. This weekend's successes would probably not have occurred without this aid.
124  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: PM Series: Question 18 on: September 06, 2014, 09:10:21 am
Disagree / Critical. 200,000 Americans die of pollution every year. There's no "free market" solution for that. The SD Republican party actually voted to impeach Obama for trying to enforce the Clean Air Act.

Pigovian taxes on pollution should qualify as a "free market solution," but elected Republicans won't even support them.
125  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: АverroŽs vs. PPT TNF on: September 06, 2014, 08:57:52 am
I join in thanking the participants for their briefs, and having read them, would like to pose a question. Under the Constitution of Atlasia, assuming arguendo that the acting President pro tempore has no power to break Senate ties (in effect allowing one Senator to vote twice if such office did have such power to vote to break ties), just what powers does that leave to the office other than its rather august sounding title? Thank you.

The Constitution mentions the President pro tempore several times. The PPT has some duties in relation to impeachment hearings, and falls fifth in the order of presidential succession, after the Vice President, the Secretary of External Affairs, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Internal Affairs. Any further powers or obligations are defined under the Senate's rules, and are not mandated by the Constitution.
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