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101  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Use a picture to describe the previous poster on: April 07, 2014, 05:49:45 pm
102  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: should prostitution brothels be legal? on: April 07, 2014, 04:30:14 pm
Yes (feminist, pro-worker, not sentimental about sex, etc.).

Also, a brothel is far from the only setting where we commodify the sexuality of workers.
103  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Study: 16% of Americans can locate Ukraine on a map on: April 07, 2014, 12:25:38 pm
This isn't great, but let's be real, Geography sucks.

Real geography consists of more than memorizing place names, anyway.
104  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Study: 16% of Americans can locate Ukraine on a map on: April 07, 2014, 12:22:49 pm
Survey exposes limited public knowledge of geography trivia, panic ensues.
105  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who is better, George Soros or Sheldon Adelson? on: April 07, 2014, 11:47:27 am
Anyone who donates to Newt Gingrich obviously has serious issues with judgment, and Soros isn't trying to start a war between Israel and half of the Muslim world, so I'll vote against Adelson.
106  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Dartmouth Students Storm President's Offices, Seriousness of Demands Unclear on: April 07, 2014, 11:40:11 am
People who think that they're capable of judging an acquaintance's college application better than an admissions committee - so well, in fact, that they can explain precisely why their friend was rejected - are hilarious.

Anyway, college students ought to be outraged about how, for example, most universities ignore rampant sexual assault on and around their campuses. Yet somehow I can't help thinking that this group would have been more effective without the neologism-laden manifesto of demands that reads like something written by one of the loopier faculty members from the English department.
107  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Standing Committee - PACIFIC PRIMARY on: April 07, 2014, 06:28:37 am
We should choose a candidate based on something more substantive than duration of time in the party. I'm sure Nix was just going to bat for an old friend (as I would for DemPGH or my VPs) but I think this thinking only contributes to the perception problem that some say exists with the party. If Flo was the incumbent Governor doing a great job, would we really vote him out because he hasn't been in the party as long? I would like to think we would not, and probably so do the people making this argument.

I don't mean to suggest there's any kind of "who's been in Labor longest" contest. If both candidates had been in the party for a couple of months, I would never bring it up. But when we're talking about someone who has left the party multiple times before AND, critically, hasn't been here for more than few days, that's something that we ought to consider. (If Flo were the incumbent I'd be more suspicious that his party change was mere political convenience.)

My own reasons for supporting DemPGH don't have much to do with that. In addition to being an old friend, he's a capable administrator. Flo is too left-wing for me, but that didn't strike me as the right appeal to make against him in a Labor primary.
108  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Queue Sanity Act (Amendment at Vote) on: April 06, 2014, 10:48:12 pm
Four to six weeks is still too long for a bill that addresses a hot issue. (And it's certainly long enough for a new Senator to lose his or her initial enthusiasm for an idea.) A month can be a lifetime in this game.
109  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Dartmouth Students Storm President's Offices, Seriousness of Demands Unclear on: April 06, 2014, 07:15:46 pm
Liberal Heroism is annoying, but these are a bunch of excitable college kids. Most of them will calm down a bit in a few years but still be reliable liberal voters and activists.

Or maybe they'll be earning six figures in the private sector and relatively apolitical. Where do most Dartmouth graduates go, anyway?
110  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Standing Committee - PACIFIC PRIMARY on: April 06, 2014, 05:53:35 pm

DemPGH has been a liberal for a long time before becoming a Labor...

That was a long time ago, ftr.

For sure. Then, you've entered on Labor, left it, stayed a good time on the Progressive Union and returned to Labor. What I'm trying to say is that Alfred concern shouldn't apply only for Flo...

Flo literally joined Labor a week ago. DemPGH has been here for months now. I will personally vouch for his commitment to the party to anyone who doubts him.

Of course, that's not the only reason to vote for DemPGH. Anyone who's been following regional politics in recent weeks will be familiar with the parade of awful, irresponsible legislation that he has blocked as Governor.

We as the council voted unanimously against it. It would make sense to say that if we had passed the bill and he vetoed it Tongue

Who sponsored the bill?

PJ

The Pacific Council's rules don't require that each bill be sponsored by a member of the legislature?
111  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Standing Committee - PACIFIC PRIMARY on: April 06, 2014, 05:49:02 pm

DemPGH has been a liberal for a long time before becoming a Labor...

That was a long time ago, ftr.

For sure. Then, you've entered on Labor, left it, stayed a good time on the Progressive Union and returned to Labor. What I'm trying to say is that Alfred concern shouldn't apply only for Flo...

Flo literally joined Labor a week ago. DemPGH has been here for months now. I will personally vouch for his commitment to the party to anyone who doubts him.

Of course, that's not the only reason to vote for DemPGH. Anyone who's been following regional politics in recent weeks will be familiar with the parade of awful, irresponsible legislation that he has blocked as Governor.

We as the council voted unanimously against it. It would make sense to say that if we had passed the bill and he vetoed it Tongue

Who sponsored the bill?
112  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Standing Committee - PACIFIC PRIMARY on: April 06, 2014, 05:32:30 pm

DemPGH has been a liberal for a long time before becoming a Labor...

That was a long time ago, ftr.

For sure. Then, you've entered on Labor, left it, stayed a good time on the Progressive Union and returned to Labor. What I'm trying to say is that Alfred concern shouldn't apply only for Flo...

Flo literally joined Labor a week ago. DemPGH has been here for months now. I will personally vouch for his commitment to the party to anyone who doubts him.

Of course, that's not the only reason to vote for DemPGH. Anyone who's been following regional politics in recent weeks will be familiar with the parade of awful, irresponsible legislation that he has blocked as Governor.
113  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Afghanistan/Iraq vets give Dubya higher approvals than Obama? on: April 06, 2014, 11:30:53 am
People who think that the military is "overwhelmingly" white and rural have no idea what they're talking about.
114  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Queue Sanity Act (Amendment at Vote) on: April 06, 2014, 11:18:32 am
EDIT - Bore has it right. I'm referring to Article III, §2.3 of the Senate's rules.
115  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Department Renaming Amendment (Amendment at Vote) on: April 06, 2014, 10:49:31 am
If we want more power to regulate Departments, we should remove all Departments from the constitution and simply have it give the Senate power over them.

Speaking as someone who regrets having written several departments into the Constitution in my less experienced days, I could not agree more. It should be enough to delegate most of these powers to the executive and specify that the President may appoint a Cabinet to carry out these duties on his behalf with the consent of a majority of the Senate.

116  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Queue Sanity Act (Amendment at Vote) on: April 06, 2014, 10:46:02 am
It's ironic - when I introduced this amendment to my bill I thought I was moving it a bit closer in the direction of Nix and Talleyrand.  Why that now is supposed to mean I'm putting forward some sort of partisan power grab is beyond me.

You might be well-intentioned here, but I think your amendment, as Nix pointed out, would cap off a Senator's ideas unfairly. I was hoping that we'd get less frivolous bills or those with no real base of support in the Senate less than we do so now.

how does this cap off a senator's ideas more than completely stopping anything from moving into the next session?

One option gives every Senator the same opportunity to introduce his or her bills. The other is an ad hoc answer to the "problem" of TNF introducing too much legislation, a problem that the anti-clogging provision already addresses.

This resolution does not solve the problem that you, Talleyrand, and I agree on - that a new Senator should have the chance to see his bills debated before the end of his or her first term - because the queue usually includes enough legislation from other senior Senators that it would make little difference.1

I should be clear that I don't think that partisanship is necessarily a bad thing, particularly in Atlasia where it can motivate greater activity. I'm not using the label in an attempt to besmirch anyone - it's just really difficult to see this as anything other than "the anti-TNF rule."

There are a couple of procedures that the Senate could be using to disrupt TNF's legislation without passing this, including tabling, "legislative hijacking" through the introduction of hostile amendments, and Yankee's authority to pass over "functionally impractical, frivolous, or directly unconstitutional" legislation.2  I don't know why TNF's detractors haven't leaned more heavily on Yankee to use this power.

1One of the reasons why I've argued for a partisan Senate is because it would allow the bills that people want to debate most to be debated first, which seems like a much better way of organizing things in an election game where keeping people interested is a primary concern.

2 If the PPT determines that a piece of legislation is functionally impractical, frivolous, or is directly unconstitutional, he may, in a public post on the Legislation Introduction thread, remove said legislation from the Senate floor. The sponsoring Senator of the legislation shall have seventy-two (72) hours to challenge this action in a public post, and with the concurrence of one-third (1/3) of office-holding Senators in the affirmative (excluding the PPT), may override the actions of the PPT
117  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Residential Taxation Reform Act of 2014 (Debating) on: April 06, 2014, 10:25:09 am
What about A) placing an overall cap on deductions and B) grandfathering in those who have already taken out loans for the next, say, 20 years?

This would do something to limit how much extra benefit current homeowners receive without devastating their financial plans.

118  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Standing Committee - PACIFIC PRIMARY on: April 06, 2014, 10:20:20 am
I encourage all Laborites to support the candidate who has been a member of our party for more than a week.

[X] DemPGH (Labor-WA)
[  ] Flo (Labor-AK)

[  ] Write-in:
[  ] None of the Above
[  ] Abstain
119  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Opinion of these charts ... on: April 05, 2014, 07:08:54 pm
Doesn't it cost a fortune to give birth in a US hospital?

It's typically $10-20k. And they'll do their best to turn you out as quickly as possible.
120  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Artists who should be the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame but aren't on: April 05, 2014, 07:03:13 pm
No one worth noting. The "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame" is a piss stain.
121  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Do you think most homosexuals are gay by choice on: April 05, 2014, 07:00:10 pm
This isn't an important question. Even if it were, it's premised on a EDIT: two false dichotomies.
122  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mozilla CEO forced out because of Prop 8 Donation on: April 05, 2014, 06:34:53 pm
Consider A) how the market for browsers works and B) Mozilla's image, and it isn't at all surprising that Eich was under pressure to quit.

Users of internet browsers have several adequate options to choose from, and all of them are free. A leader who isn't respected by his employees or the public would be a liability for any company, but it becomes an even greater problem when brand matters as much as it does to Firefox.

123  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should NASA's budget be increased? on: April 05, 2014, 05:01:04 pm
NASA does a lot, so the answer depends on which of its functions we're discussing. Funding basic research is absolutely something that government should be doing. When I consider that NASA has placed a mobile research laboratory on another planet for less than the cost of a couple of B-2 bombers, I can't help feeling enthusiastic about the agency.
124  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: Queue Sanity Act (Amendment at Vote) on: April 05, 2014, 04:38:48 pm
This is why I called it the era of bait and switch reform. Identify a real issue, exaggerate and embellish the situation to incorporate other aspects and thne propose a tangentially related reform that whilst not directly resolving the issue at hand, dose strike an item of off the partisan wish list. Tongue

The same approach was taking with the push for Judicial Term Limits last year.

Senate introduction is not complex at all Nix. You have to be a sitting Senator and you can only have three bills in a row before someone else's stuff gets brought up.

The slots are rather simple too. The in order slots follow the order of introduction by sitting Senators in accordance with said clogging rule. PPT, EXE FA/EM and FP are self explanatory and don't go in order.

I don't see where it is complex, more or less arcane (which implies it lacks purpose).

You really think think a caucus strucutre would be lacking in complexity, or less arcane from the perspective of a third partier or Independent? I had hoped that you having one foot in a third party yourself would bring some perspective on the matter, Mr. Miller. Tongue

None of this is too complicated for you or I to understand, but the Senate's rules ought to be easily understood by first-term Senators. This is an impenetrable thicket for the uninitiated.

And do you really believe that your unique familiarity with this complex set of rules and the powers delegated to you as PPT do not give you any additional ability to influence how the Senate works? There is no such thing as neutral administration. The OSPR is a mess largely because it attempts to provide an answer for every contingency, but that attempt is by necessity a perennially incomplete work-in-progress consisting of imperfect solutions (such as this resolution) layered atop other imperfect solutions.
125  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: raw milk on: April 05, 2014, 01:30:07 pm
Yes, although I'd also be fine with mandating that a large skull and crossbones be included on the label.
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