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1726  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Jimmy Carter (by party) on: July 04, 2014, 08:52:49 am
The most incompetent POTUS between Andrew Johnson and George W. Bush.
1727  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Spring 2014 Convention - POLITBURO VOTING & PLATFORM on: July 04, 2014, 08:43:53 am
I am probably more of a game reform conservative than most of the rest you at this point, but a minimum we need a convention to clean up our federal constitution.

Improving out at-large Senate elections also needs to be a high priority. As of now, we have a system that does little to produce exciting elections, that encourage tactical voting (which is rampant), and in which it is easy for crap, inactive candidates to win. I think that either district-based elections or switching from PR-STV to open party-list voting would improve the situation.
1728  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Political Tracker - 2nd At-Large Senate Poll on: July 04, 2014, 08:35:21 am
Griffin gets my first preference this time around for fighting against the proposed Iraq War resolution.

Not sure how I'm going to vote after that.  I'm considering pretty much everyone who's listed except Deus.

"Fighting against" the proposed police action in Iraq is quite separate from calling the entire country "savages" and jovially suggesting "turning the entire country into one sheet of glass".

I'm glad to see Tyrion standing up to Labor's isolationist - yet apparently genocidal? - tendencies.

Yeah, that was... bizarre.
1729  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Issues with the wiki on: July 03, 2014, 11:15:13 pm
We would probably need to contact Dave. The first issue, at least, has only cropped up within the past six months, and even then only in Chrome. It is really annoying, though, and I have used and edited the wiki less as a result.
1730  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: what game of thrones character would the preceding poster be? on: July 03, 2014, 10:56:52 pm
Big Walder Frey
1731  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Clash of Kings, an ASOIAF Game (Gameplay - 299 AL (3) - The Dragon and the Stag) on: July 03, 2014, 10:39:56 pm
Isn't Shireen the technical heir to Stannis?

Also, is Melisandre truly dead? Cry

Male primogeniture, I'd assume - regardless, Renly as Hand would be acting King until Shireen came of age.

You're forgetting the terms of Renly's pact with Stannis. Stannis sold out his daughter's inheritance for the throne that now supports his bloated, mutilated corpse.
1732  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Clash of Kings, an ASOIAF Game (Gameplay - 299 AL (3) - The Dragon and the Stag) on: July 03, 2014, 10:37:50 pm
A proclamation to the surviving lords and retainers of Lord Stannis Baratheon

The assassination of your liege lord will raise chaos in King's Landing and throughout the Crownlands. Therefore, in the interest of preserving the realm and protecting innocent lives, I offer you a chance at clemency.

Surrender to Ser Barristan now and assist in the retaking of King's Landing, and I will allow you to return to your homes and continue in the service of House Targaryen as you did peacefully for centuries before. You will retain your lands, your incomes, your titles, and all other privileges. Refuse this offer, and neither you nor your houses will receive mercy.


Daenerys Targaryen
Queen of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Princess of Dragonstone
1733  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Clash of Kings, an ASOIAF Game (Gameplay - 299 AL (3) - The Dragon and the Stag) on: July 03, 2014, 10:07:32 pm
The first sentence of Catelyn is weapons-grade trolling. Martin would be proud.
1734  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: The Millennial Generation has produced nothing of note culturally. on: July 03, 2014, 09:55:04 pm
Another note, if we assume that the Strauss-Howe cyclical generations/turnings theory holds any water then we really shouldn't be surprised that our current popular cultural hasn't produced anything of real substance.

The analogous point in the previous cycle to where we are today would probably be the later 1930s, and I don't remember anything of especial cultural merit being produced during that time (at least not in the United States).  Popular culture then, like today, seemed rather kitsch and juvenile.  Of course, this would make sense, as then (much like today) artists and musicians were approached with a certain level of skepticism by the general public for not channelling the fullness of their efforts into propelling the society-wide institutional reorganization.

Just some more food for thought. 

Wizard of Oz
Snow White and the 7 Dwarves

The Hobbit
Brave New World
Grapes of Wrath
Of Mice and Men
As I Lay Dying

Batman and Superman comics

The Hobbit isn't American (which DT limits his statement to) and these movies and comics arguably qualify as "juvenile kitsch."  Not that I'm interested in defending the idea of "turnings."
1735  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Inks and Al's tenures as mods on: July 03, 2014, 09:43:46 pm
"Leakers" lol. Thats some top level confidential information you got there Agent Inks.

"Should we unban Libertas or not?"

The funniest part is that Libertas had messaged several non-moderators anyway to talk about his possible return at that point.
1736  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Game of Thrones on: July 03, 2014, 04:40:57 pm
The Starks are terrible prudes and I await their final eradication.

You are an evil person and I will drink your tears when the Starks finally prevail.

Out of whose skull?
1737  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Roberts Court on: July 03, 2014, 12:22:57 pm
Even lower than my opinion of Congress, but that has much less to do with my opinion of Roberts than it is a reflection of my dislike for the Court as an institution.
1738  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Spring 2014 Convention - POLITBURO VOTING & PLATFORM on: July 03, 2014, 12:02:43 pm
AG for Chair

TNF for Assistant Chair

Barnes for Gen Sec
1739  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: District 14 Michigan House of Representatives election, 2014 on: July 02, 2014, 07:18:58 pm
I'd vote for Inks, because it would be so cool to have an Atlas poster who is an actual politician.

Former poster "nhmagic" was a member of the NH House.
1740  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Clash of Kings, an ASOIAF Game (Gameplay - 299 AL (3) - The Dragon and the Stag) on: July 02, 2014, 02:38:05 pm
That's a strange way to refer to ravens, Lord Tywin. Next thing we know, you'll be lighting glass candles while all of the rats in Lannisport gnaw off their own tails.
1741  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: is this Hifly post a freedom post? on: July 02, 2014, 02:30:21 pm
It's an extremely low blow in context. As Nathan points out, only an idiot would believe that Hifly commented because he was suddenly seized by an overwhelming concern for Bandit's well-being. I am guilty of doing the same out of frustration, but none of us deserve to be lauded for it.
1742  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: So You Think You Can Moderate? - Nomination Round on: July 02, 2014, 12:55:10 pm
My guess is that the volume of work for the other moderators will decrease without Inks around. Maybe the FC board is difficult enough that someone will have to fill in the gap, but it's probably worth waiting to see what happens before clammoring for his replacement.

Anyway, as long as this is just for fun, I would like to nominate Jack Enderman.
1743  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Quinnipiac University Poll: Obama worst president since WWII on: July 02, 2014, 11:49:25 am
Sad to see Reagan always getting such accolades, but at least it's only 35%, so you have to think at least SOME people are realizing how awful he was. 

Reagan is the only recent POTUS not to have left office in diminished (Johnson, Nixon, W., and to a lesser extent, Clinton) or after losing an election (Ford, Carter, H.W). By the standards that are usually used to evaluate past presidencies, that alone counts for a lot.
1744  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Duke-Scott Educating The People Reform (Debating) on: July 02, 2014, 11:16:41 am
I know that your intentions were noble, Duke. But the Senate has made this into a legislative Frankenstein's monster.
1745  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Spring 2014 Convention - PLATFORM on: July 02, 2014, 11:12:27 am
Oh, I had forgotten about the agriculture plank. I would prefer that that be removed, too.
1746  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE BILL: The Duke-Scott Educating The People Reform (Debating) on: July 02, 2014, 11:09:54 am
Shades of last summer's mental health reform bill in this thread. I am beginning to wonder whether this might be a backdoor attempt to convince us all of the virtues of regionalizing authority over education policy. Tongue If that were your goal, you would be succeeding.
1747  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Spring 2014 Convention - PLATFORM on: July 02, 2014, 11:04:26 am
To recap a few of the points that I and others have raised:

1. The platform needs to speak to game reform and include, if not specifics, a vision for the game's future and how we would like it to adapt.

2. A couple of people brought up foreign policy.

3. Nationalization. I am outright opposed to most of this section of the platform. But even if most others support this plank, I think the party would be better served by scaling back and focusing on one or two well-drawn proposals rather than going for full-blown nationalization of several of the economy's largest sectors right out of the gate. This is not a topic that the Atlasian left has focused on in the past, so it would be better to start with incremental reforms lest people shut their ears to arguments in support of bolder proposals.
1748  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SCOTUS on: July 01, 2014, 08:42:28 pm
And that's not considering the fact that companies are required to run 401(k)'s with the financial interests of the employees being the primary concern, or that the employees ultimately decide which of the available options to invest in?

Yet it is also true that companies must provide health insurance to their employees, and that those employees ultimately select their health care services.  If the link through Hobby Lobby's 401k investments is so tangential as to be insignificant, then why begrudge employees their birth control? What makes one benefit different from another?
1749  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The International Tribune-SoEA Official Newspaper (Israel-Palestine End of Saga) on: July 01, 2014, 12:45:34 pm
When we've had active GMs, Superique has answered to them. When wo have not, Superique has proceeded cautiously in his own rather than doing nothing at all. This is as it should be.

As we've seen with Adam's extraterrestrial invasion and Simfan's drastic revisions to past economic indicators, people will simply ignore any event that veers too far into the implausible. And even when the GM is vacant or inactive, the SoEA is directly accountable to both the President and the Senate.
1750  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Spring 2014 Convention - 24 HOUR PLATFORM VOTE on: July 01, 2014, 01:51:47 am
Nay
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