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1726  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather have your son be a hardcore Ingress player or like Bushie? on: February 23, 2014, 09:45:21 am
Just another reason to avoid having children.
1727  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Worst song that's "popular" right now? on: February 22, 2014, 10:47:56 pm
Whatever this is...

Get Lucky?

Not much to it; I don't consider repeating the same thing with no meaning to it good...


we're all a Mexican we're all a Mexican we're all a Mexican we're all a Mexican
1728  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Secretariat Office of SoIA GAworth on: February 22, 2014, 10:06:57 pm
You did well, GAWorth, although unfortunately I think that your tenure demonstrates conclusively that it's time to do away with the Secretary of Internal Affairs.
Or reconsider the current structure altogether.

I would not argue with that. Not at all.
1729  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Secretariat Office of SoIA GAworth on: February 22, 2014, 09:46:51 pm
You did well, GAWorth, although unfortunately I think that your tenure demonstrates conclusively that it's time to do away with the Secretary of Internal Affairs.
1730  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Best Arcade Fire album on: February 22, 2014, 04:15:32 pm
I like plenty of their songs, but any time I try to listen to an entire Arcade Fire album I become horribly bored. Call me a Hun if you like.
1731  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Joe Republic on: February 21, 2014, 11:33:47 pm
On the other hand, if someone replaces your signature with an image of a circuit board, you're definitely dealing with a classic mod-squad hatchet job.
1732  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: imagen if atlas foram modarn in the past on: February 21, 2014, 10:47:15 pm
1988:

Okay this is big, It has appeared that Paul Tsongas, Michael Dukakis, and John Kerry all have conspired to a dreaded scandal that will possibly wreak the Democratic Committee; Apparently Senator Tsongas, Governor Dukakis, and Senator Kerry have accepted bribes for delegate votes! And Senator Tsongas apparently aggreed to bribes to have an extramarital affair with another person while his real wife, who currently has skin, leg, and lung cancer. (spoiler: She lives, and converts to be a "Born again" Christian.) Governor Dukakis, when notified of this, he had a press confrence and said something so innapropreate, no one ever thought he would say such a thing. So now the only people left in the candidacy is Clinton, Gore, and Biden.
1733  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Election Tracker - Feb 2014 Pres/Sen on: February 21, 2014, 09:48:29 pm
According to Governor Sirnick, the Supremacy Act doesn't change anything. It only codifies and acknowledges that federal voting regulations trump regional laws, as the Supreme Court ruled in Atlasia v. IDS (2013).

As that ruling struck down a fifty-post requirement for voting eligibility in the Southeast, which was stricter than the federal requirement at the time, it makes sense to interpret "minimum" as meaning a minimum standard of inclusiveness, i.e. if a vote is valid under federal law it is also valid under regional law.

Where is this so-called Supremacy Act?  I can't find it on the Wiki.

The Assembly passed the Supremacy Act in July; the relevant thread is here. I added several dozen regional laws to the regional wiki in June, but I don't think anyone has updated the Northeast's pages since then.
1734  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Election Tracker - Feb 2014 Pres/Sen on: February 21, 2014, 09:31:15 pm
I've explained why the subject of vote editing is covered under the broad language Supremacy Act, and I've yet to read any attempt to explain how it possibly wouldn't be. (Furthermore, even if the Supremacy Act had not been passed, its namesake, the federal constitution's supremacy clause, would apply.)
1735  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Election Tracker - Feb 2014 Pres/Sen on: February 21, 2014, 09:04:31 pm
I've already mentioned that the Supremacy Act, although inspired by Chief Justice Ebowed's decision and the principles behind it, does not limit itself to voter registration.

In its own words, the Supremacy Act applies to "all standards and regulations, including election law." I mentioned Ebowed's decision to illustrate why I dispute your interpretation of what it means to use federal laws as a "minimum standard."
1736  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: parody the preceding atlasian's postings. on: February 21, 2014, 08:56:30 pm
If everyone read the Bible and understood GAAP, the world would be a much better place.
1737  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Election Tracker - Feb 2014 Pres/Sen on: February 21, 2014, 08:50:44 pm
So I take it you read very few of my posts here and certainly did not read the actual court ruling, am I right?

Nope. I read all of them! Cheesy
1738  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Election Tracker - Feb 2014 Pres/Sen on: February 21, 2014, 08:45:08 pm
The lawsuit was specific to voter registration, but the Supremacy Act is not.

(I would also go further and argue that if federal election regulations and regional election regulations do not produce the same result, they are in conflict regardless of whether their wording implies a direct contradiction.)

And what relevant language in the Supremacy Act would repeal the Vote Sanctity Act?

Section 2 gives federal law supremacy over regional law when they are "in conflict."

The law could only be in conflict if we were to do something like allow vote editing up to thirty minutes. Do you know how minimum standards work? You really should do some research yourself IMO but I will give you an example. If there are federal school standards that say students are required to understand the concept of minimum standards by fourth grade, and a state decides to make minimum standards part of the third grade curriculum, there is no conflict. But if the state decides "we will wait until fifth grade to teach this concept" they will probably lose a ton of money.

Your analogy would be convincing if it didn't also apply to the former IDS law requiring that voters have fifty posts that the Supreme Court nullified in the aforementioned case.
1739  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Election Tracker - Feb 2014 Pres/Sen on: February 21, 2014, 08:33:55 pm
The lawsuit was specific to voter registration, but the Supremacy Act is not.

(I would also go further and argue that if federal election regulations and regional election regulations do not produce the same result, they are in conflict regardless of whether their wording implies a direct contradiction.)

And what relevant language in the Supremacy Act would repeal the Vote Sanctity Act?

Section 2 gives federal law supremacy over regional law when they are "in conflict."
1740  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Election Tracker - Feb 2014 Pres/Sen on: February 21, 2014, 08:30:01 pm
The lawsuit was specific to voter registration, but the Supremacy Act is not.

(I would also go further and argue that if federal election regulations and regional election regulations do not produce the same result, they are in conflict regardless of whether their wording implies a direct contradiction.)
1741  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Election Tracker - Feb 2014 Pres/Sen on: February 21, 2014, 08:08:28 pm
According to Governor Sirnick, the Supremacy Act doesn't change anything. It only codifies and acknowledges that federal voting regulations trump regional laws, as the Supreme Court ruled in Atlasia v. IDS (2013).

As that ruling struck down a fifty-post requirement for voting eligibility in the Southeast, which was stricter than the federal requirement at the time, it makes sense to interpret "minimum" as meaning a minimum standard of inclusiveness, i.e. if a vote is valid under federal law it is also valid under regional law.
1742  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Election Tracker - Feb 2014 Pres/Sen on: February 21, 2014, 07:27:19 pm
The Wiki must be wrong then...

The constitution does not guarantee that "at a minimum, votes edited less than twenty minutes after they were posted must be counted". I guess its a reading comprehension thing after all. I already posted the text of the constitution and you can spend some time learning what a minimum standard is if you aren't aware.

As someone concerned with reading comprehension, I'm sure that you agree that it's important to mind the adverbs.
1743  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Election Tracker - Feb 2014 Pres/Sen on: February 21, 2014, 07:09:04 pm
I'm just looking at what's listed on the wiki.

And why is that an illegitimate question? The federal constitution effectively guarantees that, at a minimum, votes edited less than twenty minutes after they were posted must be counted, n'est pas?
1744  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Election Tracker - Feb 2014 Pres/Sen on: February 21, 2014, 06:51:28 pm
That's not the same text that I'm looking for the Northeast law. There's also the question of whether "minimum" standards are minimally inclusive or minimally exclusive.
1745  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Thieves run off with Dinosaur Tracks in Utah on: February 21, 2014, 05:57:07 pm
Here are a few other important stories that deserve your attention:











1746  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Election Tracker - Feb 2014 Pres/Sen on: February 21, 2014, 05:28:48 pm
That's a cute interpretation, but, as I'm sure that you're aware, there are a couple of obvious objections. How Governor Sirnick chooses to count the vote will determine whether further elucidation on this point is necessary.

As I stated clearly, I'm unaware of any constitutionally sound alternatives but I would like to hear them as I particularly enjoy constitutional law debates

As the relevant regional statute directly states that it contradicts federal law, the regional law is no longer in effect per Section 2 of the Supremacy Act.
1747  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Do you support capitalism (by party)? on: February 21, 2014, 02:28:14 pm
I'm not sure what "supporting capitalism" entails, but I accept that regulated markets are often an efficient means of allocating resources and that a functioning market requires protection of property rights.
1748  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Election Tracker - Feb 2014 Pres/Sen on: February 21, 2014, 02:21:30 pm
That's a cute interpretation, but, as I'm sure that you're aware, there are a couple of obvious objections. How Governor Sirnick chooses to count the vote will determine whether further elucidation on this point is necessary.
1749  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Georgia approves Confederate flag license plates on: February 21, 2014, 01:42:00 pm
This reminds me of those ridiculous shirts that Southerners are so fond of wearing, the ones embossed with Confederate flags and the motto: "If this shirt offends you, you need a history lesson".

The worst that I've seen:



I saw someone wearing that t-shirt in Northern New York. Within sight of Canada, even. Small wonder why so many of us have negative feelings toward the region that exports this sentiment.
1750  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: Atlasian Presidents Survivor on: February 21, 2014, 01:20:06 pm
Colin Wixted
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