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4276  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:The Election Weekend Discussion Thread on: August 22, 2004, 08:48:34 am
Latest Updates- lots of ties happening:

1B- Handzus 6, .Andrew 5, Keystone Phil 5.  
Tiebreaker between .Andrew and Phil: .Andrew 9, Phil 5.  Phil is eliminated.
Final runoff: Handzus 6, .Andrew 5.

On a side note, this is why Hughento is right.  Preferential voting only works if all voters rank all the candidates.


2B- After the runoff, its Bono 5, Migrendel 5.  Bono wins the tie due to having the most first preferences.


2A- If NixonNow's vote is counted for RReagan4EVER, he wins 9-8.  If that vote is disqualified, it is a tie 8-8.
4277  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re:Midwest Voting Booth on: August 22, 2004, 02:04:05 am
M, Texas isn't in the Midwest region anymore.  Go vote in the Southeast region governor race.  
4278  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:The Election Weekend Discussion Thread on: August 21, 2004, 11:25:44 pm
In a surprising move that I did not expect, President Gustaf has voted for PBrunsel for Midwest Governor!  This brings PBrunsels lead to 4-2, and virtually assures his victory.

You were right on this one, Phil!
4279  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:First C.E.S [draft] Recommendation: Banning of Write In Candidates on: August 21, 2004, 11:19:28 pm
Wow Ernest...you really should run for Senate.  Smiley
4280  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:The Election Weekend Discussion Thread on: August 21, 2004, 11:05:28 pm
With Hockey Dude's latest vote, Migrendel pulls into the lead in 2B!

Round 1:
Bono 4
Migrendel 3
Umengus 2

Round 2:
Migrendel 5
Bono 4

And Migrendel hasnt even voted yet!
4281  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re:Official Senate Elections Voting Booth- August 20-22 on: August 21, 2004, 10:58:29 pm
Phil, he can also vote in 2B.

Hockey Dude's votes for 2A and 2B will be counted.
4282  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Latest battleground state poll averages on: August 21, 2004, 10:34:55 pm
I was talking about our fantasy elections.  The real elections aren't til November.  Sorry for getting off-topic, but I just noticed Hockey Dude was online and hasnt voted yet.
4283  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Latest battleground state poll averages on: August 21, 2004, 10:24:50 pm
Hey Hockey Dude, don't forget to vote!!!  Elections in progress...   Smiley
4284  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:First C.E.S [draft] Recommendation: Banning of Write In Candidates on: August 21, 2004, 10:16:14 pm
Write-ins just don't work under a preferential system, because for a preferential system to work properly, it is necessary for EVERY candidate to be listed. Therefor, everyone needs to include the write-in, which means that they ay as well be on the ballot.

One of the reasons I wrote so many people in was to highlight the stupidity of allowing write ins in a preferential voting system!

As the person counting votes, I agree.  Failing to rank all the candidates does sometimes create a problem.  The system would work much better if everyone ranked all the candidates.

This only works if write-ins are then banned.  Every voter needs to rank the exact same list of candidates.

I propose the following:

1. All candidates on the ballot must be ranked for the vote to be considered valid.

2. Writing in of candidates not on the ballot will also invalidate the vote.

3. Filing deadline be moved to three days prior to the election.  Candidates cannot be added to or removed from the ballot after the filing deadline.

This would need a constitutional amendment.  What does everyone think?
4285  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:First C.E.S [draft] Recommendation: Banning of Write In Candidates on: August 21, 2004, 08:08:42 pm
So then, Hughento, are you suggesting that we ban write-in votes and also require all candidates to be ranked?
4286  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re:The first annual Atlas Forum convention! on: August 21, 2004, 05:47:24 pm
Nym90 and I had a great meeting, where we discussed such important topics as who will run for President in October, who will win what states in the real election in November, whats going to happen in the Supreme Court here next week....
All in all, a very interesting meeting.  Neither of us brought a camera, though.  Sad
4287  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:King's eResults page is now live on: August 21, 2004, 05:30:48 pm
Now that votes have slowed down to one every few hours, do we really need the auto-refresh on this?
4288  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:Unless something occurs.... on: August 21, 2004, 05:21:33 pm
Really Reaganfan, why would you leave the forum just because you lost an election?  Thats rather poor sportsmanship, I think.  Be a gracious loser.
4289  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:First C.E.S [draft] Recommendation: Banning of Write In Candidates on: August 21, 2004, 01:59:13 pm
Personally, I have mixed feelings.  I agree with Al that the existence of write-in candidates has made a mockery of the filing process.  I also agree that banning write-in votes would be an infringement of voters rights.

Like Justin, I abstain.
4290  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Polls / Re:Interesting tidbit on: August 21, 2004, 01:41:33 pm
On a side note, RightWingNut, we are having our midterm elections this weekend. I'd appreciate your vote for Senator is district 1B. I hope you consider voting.

You might not be aware of this, Phil, but campaigning outside of the Elections forum, in posts, is strictly prohibited by the Constitution.  Its okay to remind people to vote, but not to ask them to vote for a specific candidate.  Posts of that nature should only be made in the Elections forum.
4291  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:LET Election Coverage! on: August 21, 2004, 01:18:28 pm
Fritz whats the % turnout for this election?

As of right now, 48.33%.  Thats counting 3 people who voted in 2A but didn't vote in their "B" race (including NixonNow, whose vote is in dispute.  I'm also counting Kodratos.)
4292  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:LET Election Coverage! on: August 21, 2004, 01:12:03 pm
There should be a runoff in 5B.  Hobbes wins the tie between him and Platy, due to having more of StevenNicks second preferences.  So Platy gets eliminated.  Runoff vote result is StevenNick 6, Mr. Hobbes 4.
4293  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:LET Election Coverage! on: August 21, 2004, 01:05:57 pm
My page is updated Tongue



I have Texasgurl with 7, not 6.
4294  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:LET Election Coverage! on: August 21, 2004, 01:02:00 pm
Is there any way you can indicate on your page that there is a vote in dispute?  Thats the case in two different elections.
4295  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:The Election Weekend Discussion Thread on: August 21, 2004, 12:53:29 pm
Run-off voting has created ties in 1B and 2B Shocked

In both cases, the tie is resolved by counting first preference votes only of the candidates involved in the tie.
4296  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re:Atlas Forum Supreme Court Case: Akno21 vs. NixonNow on: August 21, 2004, 12:49:53 pm
I suggest that the hearing of evidence in this case be delayed until voting in the election has concluded, to determine the relevance of this matter.
4297  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:LET Election Coverage! on: August 21, 2004, 12:37:18 pm
What about my race?

Harry leads Josh22 at 6-5 with the disputed vote, and 6-4 without it.
4298  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:LET Election Coverage! on: August 21, 2004, 12:05:13 pm
In 2B, Bono has pulled into the lead with 3 votes, to Umengus 2 and Migrendel 1.  Round 2 is another tie at 3-3, which Bono wins.

This race has had the lowest voter turnout.  2 of the candidates havent even voted yet.
4299  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:LET Election Coverage! on: August 21, 2004, 12:00:47 pm
Handzus 26 leads Keystone Phil and Andrew 6-4-4, respectivly.

Actually, thats 6-5-4.  Smiley

Round 2 brings us to a tie, 7-7.

Handzus26 would win the tie, due to having more first preference votes than Keystone Phil.
4300  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:The Election Weekend Discussion Thread on: August 21, 2004, 10:51:53 am
Well, I'm starting to have second thoughts about this decision.  Phil makes a good point.

We'll see if the disputed vote affects the outcome.  If it does, the court will have to rule on this.  If it doesn't, its irrelevant.
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