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4276  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:For Semi-Live Results of this Week's Election... on: August 22, 2004, 08:43:57 pm
He will in court tomorrow, I'm sure.
4277  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:The Election Weekend Discussion Thread on: August 22, 2004, 08:32:04 pm
Oh, really?  I dont know about Governor races, but the UAC only ran one candidate for Senate- Mr. Hobbes.  Of the 6 UAC members voting in that election, 3 of them voted for Hobbes- yourself included, I might add.  Smiley  The other 3 put Hobbes as second preference.
4278  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:First C.E.S [draft] Recommendation: Banning of Write In Candidates on: August 22, 2004, 08:13:50 pm
Yeah, I'm starting to come around to not liking Ernest's act.  Its too complex, has too many restrictions, and with the size of our population being as small as it is, won't work very well.  Lets keep it simple.  I'm in favor of getting rid of write-ins, only if we require all candidates on the ballot to be ranked, to make prefereential voting work better.
4279  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:For Semi-Live Results of this Week's Election... on: August 22, 2004, 08:03:00 pm
Actually you would win the tie, since all 9 of your votes (counting NixonNows) were first preference, and only 8 of Akno's were.  If Ben had put down Akno as his first preference, it would be an unbreakable tie.
4280  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:For Semi-Live Results of this Week's Election... on: August 22, 2004, 07:43:11 pm
And even if His vote counts Akno is Still Ahead.

How do you figure?
4281  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:For Semi-Live Results of this Week's Election... on: August 22, 2004, 07:10:47 pm
Right.
4282  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:For Semi-Live Results of this Week's Election... on: August 22, 2004, 06:46:14 pm
The page isnt totally correct.  It should have 9 for Akno in the final runoff.  It also assumes the NixonNow vote wont count (probably an accurate assumption).
4283  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:For Semi-Live Results of this Week's Election... on: August 22, 2004, 06:43:16 pm
Not quite.  The person who voted for Al listed Akno as like his 4th preference, for these purposes we could call it second preference.  The person who voted for MAS117 listed no other preferences.  So Akno ends up with 9 votes.
4284  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:The Election Weekend Discussion Thread on: August 22, 2004, 03:41:03 pm
Yay PBrunsel...not only has AFIP lost its governor seat...it loses DemRepDan's seat aswell...not bad for a "third party" or is it "fifth party" on this website? Tongue

Thats not over yet...Texasgurl only leads by one vote.  The AFIP also will probably make up for losses by adding Handzus26 to the senate.
4285  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:WCN NEWS ALERT! on: August 22, 2004, 12:54:57 pm

I most certainly can... It's very odd for a write-in candidate to win an election... Only other person to do that was StevenNick and that was awhile ago. So it's a big deal


Actually Texasgurl was a write-in candidate when she won her Senate seat back in April.

StevenNick was write-in?  I don't recall that.
4286  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:WCN NEWS ALERT! on: August 22, 2004, 12:50:57 pm
According to the first post in the Midwest vote thread, voting in that election closed at Noon Central Time.  This election is over.  PBrunsel wins.
4287  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:LET Election Coverage! on: August 22, 2004, 12:38:43 pm
With Bens vote, after run-off the race in 2A is 9-9 counting the disputed vote, and 9-8 Akno if the vote is disqualified.  I hope Akno can get one more vote so we don't have to go to court over this!

Is the disputed vote that of NixonNow?

Yes.
4288  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:The Election Weekend Discussion Thread on: August 22, 2004, 12:34:28 pm
Check the first post in each voting booth for closing times, they are all different.
4289  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:LET Election Coverage! on: August 22, 2004, 12:26:35 pm
With Bens vote, after run-off the race in 2A is 9-9 counting the disputed vote, and 9-8 Akno if the vote is disqualified.  I hope Akno can get one more vote so we don't have to go to court over this!
4290  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:LET Election Coverage! on: August 22, 2004, 12:12:55 pm
No, they don't have to resign until actually elected or appointed to another post.  Migrendel did not have to resign from the court to run for Senate.
4291  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re:Atlas Forum Supreme Court Case: Akno21 vs. Fritz on: August 22, 2004, 11:00:03 am
Voting doesn't close until midnight tonight, so I dont think we'll be hearing any testimony until tomorrow.
4292  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:First C.E.S [draft] Recommendation: Banning of Write In Candidates on: August 22, 2004, 10:46:36 am
The procedures proposed by Ernest I think do require an amendment.  The preferential votig act didnt conflict with anything in the constitution, so didnt need an amendment.  This, I think does.
4293  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:First C.E.S [draft] Recommendation: Banning of Write In Candidates on: August 22, 2004, 10:40:37 am
Ernest has done an outstanding job on writing this bill.  My feeling, however, is that it is un-necessarily complicated, and could be simplified quite a bit.

I think the Senate needs to get to work on election reform right away.  We have 2 months until the next elections.  Parties will probably want to start their nominating processes for President a month ahead of time, so really that gives us a month to get reform legislation passed by the Senate AND put to public poll, assuming its a Constitutional amendment.
4294  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re:Democrats will not regain Senate on: August 22, 2004, 10:25:06 am
Sorry, my mistake.  Ben, go vote.
4295  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re:Remember the "Old" PBrunsel? on: August 22, 2004, 10:21:55 am
By the way, Congratulations Governor.  Cheesy
4296  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Note to StatesRights on: August 22, 2004, 10:16:03 am
Geez, lighten up, States!  Did you get up on the wrong side of bed this morning?
4297  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re:Democrats will not regain Senate on: August 22, 2004, 10:06:07 am
On a side note, there are elections going on in your district for Fantasy Elections right now. I think you can vote in 2A and 4B.

Sorry Akno, but AuH2O is not registered in fantasy-land.
4298  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Note to StatesRights on: August 22, 2004, 10:02:22 am
I am not saying you lied, I just think name-calling outside of the fantasy board is counterproductive.

Name-calling is counter-productive, period, on or off the fantasy board.
4299  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:The Election Weekend Discussion Thread on: August 22, 2004, 09:06:33 am
These are the procedures I am following to break ties:

Okay, we'll go with your tiers 1 and 2 then.  Those both use the ballots cast to determine the outcome.

Ok so can we have an official post to lay out exactly what will happen if there is a tie at Noon Today.

Tie Breakers-

Tier 1.  The candidate with more first preference votes wins the tie.

Tier 2.  Every ballot cast in the election is re-examined as a race solely between the two candidates involved in the tie.


If one of the candidates wins Tier 1, and the other candidate wins Tier 2, that becomes a tie requiring a run-off election.

It should be noted that these procedures have never been officially passed into law, and remain open to court challenges.
4300  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:The Election Weekend Discussion Thread on: August 22, 2004, 08:48:34 am
Latest Updates- lots of ties happening:

1B- Handzus 6, .Andrew 5, Keystone Phil 5.  
Tiebreaker between .Andrew and Phil: .Andrew 9, Phil 5.  Phil is eliminated.
Final runoff: Handzus 6, .Andrew 5.

On a side note, this is why Hughento is right.  Preferential voting only works if all voters rank all the candidates.


2B- After the runoff, its Bono 5, Migrendel 5.  Bono wins the tie due to having the most first preferences.


2A- If NixonNow's vote is counted for RReagan4EVER, he wins 9-8.  If that vote is disqualified, it is a tie 8-8.
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