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51  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Maduro Confirms Arrest of Caracas Mayor for Coup Plotting on: February 22, 2015, 01:32:49 am
A American supported coup in Latin America have as much support from the general public as Russian ones in the Eastern Europe. So congratulation if Obama followed your suggestion, we could look forward to a decade with Maduro.

If the coup plotters restore democracy after the coup (probably the best possible result), I highly doubt the Venezuelan people will cut off their nose to spite their face by voting for Maduro.

Such coup plotters could only exist in Venezuelan military. Do you really think it is likely that, at this point, there is anybody in Venezuelan military who "would restore democracy"?

No, but do you really think military rule would be worse than Maduro? Notice that I was discussing a "best possible result".

A American supported coup in Latin America have as much support from the general public as Russian ones in the Eastern Europe. So congratulation if Obama followed your suggestion, we could look forward to a decade with Maduro.

If the coup plotters restore democracy after the coup (probably the best possible result), I highly doubt the Venezuelan people will cut off their nose to spite their face by voting for Maduro.

There is nobody within the Venezuelan system who would be capable of pulling off a coup, as such, against Maduro; thus, any attempt at doing so would be crushed, and probably provide Maduro a decade's worth of propaganda fodder.

There are many in Venezuelan system who could do a coup against Maduro. My prime suspect would be Diosdado Cabello. The only problem is, both he and anybody else who could do this, would not at all help either the opposition or democracy.

Then again, if military rule means Cabello and his Soles it would be even worse than Maduro. I suppose it depends on how thoroughly the Venezuelan military has been scrubbed.
52  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban OC for utter stupidity and extremely poor grammar on: February 21, 2015, 11:05:18 pm
If you look through his predictions, you'll notice OC was quite good before 2014, before ridiculously overestimating the Democrats in that year.
53  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Guiliani: Obama under Communist influence since age 9 on: February 21, 2015, 10:53:47 pm
Aren't we all under communist influence to some extent?
54  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Majority of Obama states now have no death penalty or moratorium on: February 21, 2015, 10:52:49 pm
I personally would not want such a job

Given your recent bloodthirstyness, I am schocked by this admission. Interestingly enough, you did take some time to consider the option, though.

That's not what I was doing when I was logged off.



First of all, you used so many negatives in this statement that I have no idea what you're trying to say. It sounds like you're trying to build up some sort of strawman linking Jewish ethnicity, Jewish religion, the state of Israel, and stoning, but it's impenetrable for me. Может я это предложение пойму по русский?

Sorry, edited it a bit too much- does read badly.  Should have been

I know, I know, you are 100% Jewish, but that less-than-100% Jewish state of Israel does not, for some reason, practice stoning these days. How non-Jewish of them!

I don't know why your making a point that Israel is less than 100% Jewish (unless you want it cleansed), and I think we can both agree that stoning would not be consistent with Jewish values. Justice is, but it cannot be provided by a lynch mob (or a stoning mob).

I don't know what you're doing by calling me 100% Jewish unless you're trying to draw negative attention to my ethnicity, which I am confident you are not since it is one we share.

Stoning, of course, it the time-honored, properly kosher way of putting people to death.

Not really. First of all, the Torah prescribes different death penalties for different crimes. Second of all, the Torah doesn't condone a group of people throwing rocks at someone until they die, like the way Rajm works today in Islamic countries; what is usually translated as 'stoning' refers to dropping a very heavy rock on someone to crush them to death, which would be quick and painless and was probably the most "humane" way to go about it 2500 years ago before the invention of modern methods of execution.

In any case, I don't think that many parts of the Torah should be taken 100% literally; we've moved on from the times when that was appropriate. If that makes me less than 100% Jewish in your eyes, well, I couldn't really care less.

That Israel does not perform it, naturally, makes it less than 100% Jewish.

'Jewish' is not the only characteristic of the state of Israel.

I doubt you will understand this по русский, or по французский.

Стараюсь понять по английский.
55  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Maduro Confirms Arrest of Caracas Mayor for Coup Plotting on: February 21, 2015, 10:31:39 pm
A American supported coup in Latin America have as much support from the general public as Russian ones in the Eastern Europe. So congratulation if Obama followed your suggestion, we could look forward to a decade with Maduro.

If the coup plotters restore democracy after the coup (probably the best possible result), I highly doubt the Venezuelan people will cut off their nose to spite their face by voting for Maduro.
56  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: 2014 Senate results by CD on: February 21, 2015, 06:53:40 pm
Maybe the other thread is more appropriate for this, but will you continue figuring the general election gubernatorial results? Because those are far from finished and still very interesting (and many of them are much less obvious than the Senate results).
57  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Israel General Election Thread: March 17 2015 on: February 21, 2015, 06:21:09 pm
Knesset Jeremy is out with his average for February 15-21, 2015. This one adds up perfectly to 120 seats when each party is rounded to the nearest number, so there's no need for judgement calls on who would get extra seats.

February 15-21, 2015 polling average:
Zionist Union (Herzog) 24
Likud (Netanyahu) 24
Jewish Home (Bennett) 12
Joint List (Odeh) 12
Yesh Atid (Lapid) 11
Kulanu (Kahlon) 8
United Torah Judaism (Litzman) 7
Shas (Deri) 7
Yisrael Beiteinu (Liberman) 6
Meretz (Gal-On) 5
Yahad (Yishai) 4

The center-left made some gains from the right over the last week. Jewish Home and Likud both lost a seat, while Yesh Atid and the Zionist Union gained a seat each. (This means Orit Strook and Nava Boker have lost their seats to Mickey Levy and Eyal Ben-Reuven). Netanyahu is of course still (overwhelmingly) favored to become the next Prime Minister, but the past week was still a good one for Herzog.
58  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Maduro Confirms Arrest of Caracas Mayor for Coup Plotting on: February 21, 2015, 05:31:58 pm
Hopefully the White House is involved in the plotting of coup attempts.

Even if you support the coup attempts, why would you actively hope a foreign power is involved?

Maybe he wants the coup attempts to fail.

My only explanation, in fact.

Fine -- I hope the White House is ready to provide whatever aid the coup plotters want. If they think the best way to go is without clandestine North American support, then more power to them. The key point is for Maduro and the entire Bolivarian elite to go, as soon as possible, using whatever methods will work.
59  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Maduro Confirms Arrest of Caracas Mayor for Coup Plotting on: February 21, 2015, 03:41:27 pm
Hopefully the White House is involved in the plotting of coup attempts.
60  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: February 2015 Presidential and Regional Senate Elections on: February 20, 2015, 09:46:22 pm
President and Vice President:
[1] Maxwell and Dallasfan65
[2] JCL and Devin
[3] Bore and Bacon King

Mideast Senate:
[1] Spiral
[2] Windjammer
61  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Majority of Obama states now have no death penalty or moratorium on: February 19, 2015, 03:21:02 am

Executions don't occur frequently enough in the US to have a permanent "executioner" hired;

What a pity, I should say. Robs you of a chance to dedicate yourself to your favorite occupation.

The last Gallup poll had 63% of Americans favoring the death penalty; that does not mean 63% of Americans want to be executioners. I personally would not want such a job, though I accept someone has to do it.

But, you know, you could, I guess, move to China. Or to Saudi Arabia: those amputations should be lots of fun. And the severed limbs must be of great applicability in house decoration.

Are the two of us in the same conversation?

I know, I know, you are 100% Jewish, but that not 100% Jewish state of Israel does not, for some reason, practice stoning these days. How non-Jewish of them!

First of all, you used so many negatives in this statement that I have no idea what you're trying to say. It sounds like you're trying to build up some sort of strawman linking Jewish ethnicity, Jewish religion, the state of Israel, and stoning, but it's impenetrable for me. Может я это предложение пойму по русский?
62  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Majority of Obama states now have no death penalty or moratorium on: February 19, 2015, 01:53:31 am
Horrible, but hopefully if states like Michigan, West Virginia, and Wisconsin restore the death penalty we can end the Obama Administration with it being more common, population-wise, than it was at the start.

You're one bloodthirsty little fellow, aren't you?

Seriously, man. You haven't made any actual argument for death penalty, as "let's have moar executions, rah, rah! HPs, HPs, rah rah!" doesn't constitute an argument by any standards.

Neither have anti-death penalty people in this thread; the entire thread is little but cheerleading for one point of view or another. The reason I personally support a death penalty is because it is my view that the perpetrators of certain crimes (the committers of certain especially heinous murders; serial rapists; perhaps, on a sufficiently large scale, theft) cannot be rehabilitated by society and therefore should not be kept in jails, which on a fundamental level should be tools for rehabilitation. Badger has pointed out an additional argument against sentencing people to life in jail (that "lifers" have nothing left to lose, making them dangerous) as well. Also, it is my view that the justice system, broadly, has two purposes: 1) to enforce the rules of society by enacting punishment or vengeance on those who break them (such as through a death penalty), 2) to try to rehabilitate those who can be so that in the future perhaps the laws of society are broken less. In my view the death penalty aids both goals. I'm also very frustrated by the large number of "progressive" people who believe they are doing society and human rights favors by opposing the death penalty, which can lead to some "cheerleading" attitudes in certain threads as a blowback.

Horrible, but hopefully if states like Michigan, West Virginia, and Wisconsin restore the death penalty we can end the Obama Administration with it being more common, population-wise, than it was at the start.

You're one bloodthirsty little fellow, aren't you?

Seriously, man. You haven't made any actual argument for death penalty, as "let's have moar executions, rah, rah! HPs, HPs, rah rah!" doesn't constitute an argument by any standards.

Wanting certain criminals (think remorseless child rapists or serial killers) removed from this earth in the quickest and most humane way possible hardly makes someone blood thirsty.

One thing the death penalty in this country most certainly is not is quick.

I think I've made the point clear that it ought to be quicker. Sitting on death row for decades on end should be an extremely infrequent occurrence.

Horrible, but hopefully if states like Michigan, West Virginia, and Wisconsin restore the death penalty we can end the Obama Administration with it being more common, population-wise, than it was at the start.

Michigan has never carried out an execution, and formally outlawed it in 1846.

Wisconsin's only execution was carried out in 1851, and the practice was outlawed in 1853.

West Virginia, 1959.

...until the historic expansion of states performing executions during the second half of the 2010s?

I suggest you offer your services to some good death row - preferably, in Texas. You would be a great executioner.

Executions don't occur frequently enough in the US to have a permanent "executioner" hired; usually, they are prison wardens in states where executing people is part of the job description of "warden".

And it is such a wonderful conversation starter: "what do you do for leaving?" - "Oh, I kill people."

Fascinating

BTW, as you are from Russia as well, you must have had a few family members either among executioners or among the executed. Which one was it?

Rather a dramatic way of putting it, but if I understand your question right I suppose the answer is "both". I have ancestors who died in the Holodomor, as a direct (arguably intended) result of Soviet policy, and other ancestors who were military officers and members of the Party. Plural is intentional in both cases.

If you mean pre-Soviet, I am 100% Jewish. While my family history barely traces back to the start of the 20th century, I think I can reasonably assume all my ancestors were in the latter category.
63  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Are you getting ashes on your forehead today? on: February 18, 2015, 07:35:53 pm
No (Jewish), and I keep forgetting this is a thing and being surprised by people doing it every single year.
64  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: LBJ was both an FF and a HP. on: February 18, 2015, 07:33:15 pm
My opinions of which of his actions are 'fight for freedom' and which are 'horribleness' are probably somewhat different than most of the others here, but I agree with the basic sentiment.
65  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: do you think George Galloway is a Muslim? on: February 18, 2015, 07:29:33 pm
I do think that in private George Galloway identifies as a Muslim. To what extent that is legitimate conviction and to what extent it is adopted for reasons of personal gain -- difficult to say.

What's easier to say is that calling George Galloway scum of the lowest order is offensive to scum.
66  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who was President when the oldest relative you ever knew was born? on: February 18, 2015, 02:18:47 am
Relative I encountered would be a great-great-aunt who I met when I was a very small child (a photo of the two of us exists) who was born during the Taft administration, 1912. But when you say known -- that is, really interacted and spoke with -- it would have to be my great-grandfather, who was born during the Wilson administration (1919).
67  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who was president when you turned 18? on: February 18, 2015, 02:16:29 am
It hasn't happened yet, but barring something awful happening it'll be Obama.
68  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Majority of Obama states now have no death penalty or moratorium on: February 18, 2015, 02:14:26 am
Horrible, but hopefully if states like Michigan, West Virginia, and Wisconsin restore the death penalty we can end the Obama Administration with it being more common, population-wise, than it was at the start.

Michigan has never carried out an execution, and formally outlawed it in 1846.

Wisconsin's only execution was carried out in 1851, and the practice was outlawed in 1853.

West Virginia, 1959.

...until the historic expansion of states performing executions during the second half of the 2010s?
69  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Joe Biden on: February 18, 2015, 01:58:24 am
Fantastic. Would be a much better President than anyone else the Democrats have to offer.
70  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Majority of Obama states now have no death penalty or moratorium on: February 18, 2015, 01:50:09 am
Horrible, but hopefully if states like Michigan, West Virginia, and Wisconsin restore the death penalty we can end the Obama Administration with it being more common, population-wise, than it was at the start.
71  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: NV-Sen: Ralston rates Reid foes on: February 17, 2015, 06:15:20 pm
What happened to Krolicki? Is he still thinking of running? Couldn't he beat Roberson in a primary?
72  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who was President when your parents turned 18? on: February 17, 2015, 01:15:50 pm
Bush the elder for both.
73  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: UT-Sen: Huntsman might jump in on: February 17, 2015, 01:12:10 pm
Huntsman would be a formidable primary opponent, but he's a bit too moderate and doesn't have a famous family name. Lee by 8-10.

Are you for real?
74  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Elections where the winning party lost the popular vote. on: February 16, 2015, 11:24:38 pm
Vermont retains the system to this day, and actually put it in practice last month.  However, I don't know of any time when the second-placed candidate was selected.

The custom in Vermont is to always select whoever came in first under FPTP, regardless of politics. This was last broken in the lieutenant gubernatorial election of 1970, because the candidate who came in first had fallen under an ethical cloud since the election.
75  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Hypocritical Germans refuse to aid the countries that aided them on: February 16, 2015, 11:23:35 pm
And Denmark is not the least of the Scandinavian nations. It is the largest by territory and the second largest by population and GDP.



Indeed, Portugal was not, at that time, a small nation. The more pertinent questions are whether being a small nation is necessarily a bad thing (probably not), and whether Greenland can be said to be in the same state that Angola and Mozambique were under Salazar's Portugal (certainly not).
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