A tie goes to Romney as it shows him as a credible challenger.

So it's really 53-47, ie a statistical tie.....

All Romney had to say once in the last 3 debates was, verbatim: "Mr. President, you've said the same thing 4 years ago, and your policies have failed and have made us worse by....." BOOM. Done. Owned. And truthful.

All Romney had to say tonight was "Mr. President, you've lead from behind, and said you have done and you championed that strategy. We now have Muslim Brotherhood after your dithering in Egypt, we now have thousands dead in Syria after your dithering, we have had attacks in Libya which you also dithered in, we have weakened allies like Israel as you dithered....Mr. President, you haven't lead, you dithered and delayed and have lead from behind, and I won't. That is all, good night."

Those "squiggles" are just a ploy for CNN to get more viewers. It's sad some of you have bought into the seriousness of it, regardless of how well or poorly Romney may be performing. Don't believe the truth.

Irrelevant. Obama lost because his record is abysmal. End of, really. Romney now has the momentum because of that, and he's continued that theme, even if Obama speaks more smoothly.

Election is over. Mitt will be the next president.

Can I have some of what you're smoking... this election is far from over.  

Obama wishes this was 2008. Obama won't win. Political Science (my degree) has predicted for a long time that Obama will lose. I've said it here multiple times.

But hey, keep your pipe dream alive if you want.

Libya now....Ut O.....

How does one even believe the nonsense Obama spouts now? What he's spouting now is almost identical to 2008, and I doubt many would disagree that his last 4 years have failed. So why should anyone even believe his nonsense now? His record is so poor, he can barely run on it.

Goodbye, Barack.

Whereas Mitt is exploiting that all over tonight. Obama knows he's in trouble, and is treading water here. He may be treading well, but his water wings are still on, but losing air.....

Irrelevant. Obama lost because his record is abysmal. End of, really. Romney now has the momentum because of that, and he's continued that theme, even if Obama speaks more smoothly.

Election is over. Mitt will be the next president.

Perspective, please.

Isaac is a minimal hurricane, while Katrina was as destructive as they come. Of course, those in the line of the storm need to take it seriously, but it's not nearly as strong as Katrina. Not even close.

People are just getting wrapped up in it this much because it's the same location to the day Katrina hit. But that's where the analogies stop......

 Del

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI0RoJz7Tno

You're going to look so foolish in ~4 months time! Don't count your hanging chads until they've dropped!

For the record, the poll options are flawed:

If it hurts Obama, then it helps Romney
If it helps Romney, then it hurts Obama

etc.....

Obamacare was unpopular prior to the ruling. Roughly 55% of Americans opposed it. The voices will only grow stronger now that it's been upheld.

It was the sole reason why Republicans were ushered into Congress in 2010 - taking control of the House, and making significant gains in the Senate.

The first poll conducted on the day of the ruling showed the swing state of Florida having voters display a 50% opposition to the ruling with only 39% support. This is a swing state! Imagine the polls to come in other states!

Obamacare is directly tied to the economy.

I was taught in my political science classes that the economy drives elections. It was always my personal belief that unemployment <7.5% sees an Obama win, and an unemployment 9%> sees a Republican win, with the middle being too close to call. The trend is important, of course. But the trend has stagnated.

8.2% is worse than we were a few months ago, and with Europe and now Obamacare, I think it will continue to stagnate or get worse. Basically, there's no chance of it getting below 8% or less before November, and there's a greater chance it inches back up to 9%.

If the Obamacare ruling happened a year ago, June 2011, it may have had a slight effect in 2012, but doubtful. But it's too close to the election now.

Obama is done. He simply won't win. The economy is poor. Obamacare will hurt the economy in both the short and long term. People dislike Obamacare.

No matter what Romney did prior, he now stands as the only hope to repeal it. The only hope to be fiscally responsible, too.

Put it this way: People weren't enamored by Romney (although I have always liked him). But now those people who lean his way have a real and strong point for voting for him.

This ruling energizes the Republicans even more.

Good luck Democrats. You're now the one's who are the endangered species. Oh how the tables have turned in a few short 4 years......

P.S. A Mitt Romney presidency and a few added Senators (51 for the GOP) sees Obamacare reversed next year. Pretty decent odds as things stand, in my opinion.

Thanks, Roberts - bad decision in the short term, but it has guaranteed a Romney presidency.

Who in 2010 thought ACA would pass with the political makeup? Not many. I.e., anything can happen so long as the GOP has sufficient numbers......

Oppose ruling 39%
Support ruling 50%

Actually:

Oppose ruling 50%
Support ruling 39%

Yup, you're right. Had me scared for a second, but I knew that the first post citing this couldn't be right.

The 2010 midterms were a referendum on Health Care and Republicans swept into office.  

Liberals don't seem to realize that Health Care is a losing issue for 60% of Americans who oppose the mandate.  

60% of Americans will vote against Obama, again, in 2012.  

That's just how things will work.  

So you are predicting that Obama won't break 40% of the popular vote? Nice to know.

He'll get 45%-48% or so, but will lose because the turnout is moderate (There's some serious truth to that, though....)

Suffice it to say, I was watching a live blog from SCOTUS while having CNN up at the same time. The conflicting reports made me hope that CNN was right. When I realized it wasn't, I felt like a knife went through me - same feeling as the majority of those in my office. Horrible. I felt so deflated. Worst. Ruling. Ever. For. The. Worst. Reason. Ever. Thanks, Roberts.

They might be forgiven considering how the decision was written. As you read the syllabus for the first two pages one could easily conclude that the mandate was unconstitutional. It's only on the third page of the syllabus that it is held to be a tax and therefore constitutional. My guess is that Roberts was very concerned to set precedent on the extent of the Commerce Clause so the decision led with that.

Sorry, I wouldn't forgive them for reporting something without reading it.  That's just basic journalism.  There's no excuse for an error like that.

No excuse? It happened all over the place with Bush/Gore in 2000. I can't remember which organization did it, but one news organization read the end of the document first, declaring Gore the winner, when that in fact, was the dissenting opinion. Congrats.

It has nothing to do with Fox News, or opinionated news, etc. It has everything to do with being the first to break the news - which is huge. But hey, for Democrats who don't understand how the free market works, I understand why they don't get that......

Normally I try not to gloat within a thread, but the quality of this one is already so poor that I feel no shame.

It is absolutely hilarious to see our forum Republican hacks attempting spin control.  Mitt Romney's Hair, why don't you just tell us how much you love your Baby Daddy Mitt while you're at it?

Right, so those saying "butthurt" in other threads coming from liberals is so constructive, right? Please.

At least I try to make arguments and points, no matter how much you disagree with it.

Sigh, I despair sometimes. Unfortunately, today, I have despaired too often. But come November, I will not. Obama is seriously doomed - poor economy, and now a backlash on Obamacare 2.0. LOL

I realize it's for the base and all.  But didn't they vote on a repeal before?  Wasn't that part of one of last year's budgets, or something?

We had a budget!?

The narrative from now on will be: Vote for Romney if you don't like the Health Care Law. He will repeal it.

Of course, but that didn't answer my question.....

If I know trying to jump across a 50 foot bridge will fail, and I will die, why would I try? Same concept here.....

The Health Care Law can be repealed through the actions of the Congress and the President. Roe v. Wade has to be overturned in court, which is unlikely.

And the Republican narrative becomes what? "We kicked 23-year-olds with congenital heart conditions off their parents' insurance policies?" That's a winning platform. Are they going to cut checks to the states that have already spent a substantial amount of money building insurance exchanges? 

Or: We're going to keep some provisions, but reform others and do away with the mandate. We are for fiscal responsibility and affording items before we invest, we believe in not hurting small businesses or employers, we also don't want limited doctors and long waits for simple medical procedures like you get in England and Canada.

But yeah, ok, whatever you say, Sonny Jim.

When it looked like the Court'd strike it down, Democrats were trying to spin that as a good thing for Obama.

Now, Republicans trying to argue that the law being upheld is bad for Obama look equally as stupid (and hackish).

HOW? Most Americans are AGAINST Obamacare. What don't you liberals understand about that!?

It being upheld was good for Obama personally, today, but ironically it will help lead to his downfall in November.

Nothing has changed since 2010, when Obamacare opposition ushered in Republicans. Those voices will only grow after today.

It's a win for Obama as of June 28, 2012. But the polls will start being conducted on June 29, 2012 and it will slowly but surely show that it turned out to be yet another downfall for this horrible president.

Repeal of Obamacare will, of course, get through the Republican House, but it's destined to fail in the Democratically controlled Senate.

So what's the point of the vote on July 11? Seriously.

Save the energy for when Mitt and a slew of Republican Senators get elected in a few months time.....

Really, what's the rationale? Just a show to the American populace to look like they're doing something even though they know it will fail?

Butthurt. Butthurt everywhere.

This.

Compelling points. No, really.

FYI, Romney has raised over $2million after today's ruling. As I said, there's more even motivation now to get rid of Obama and this policy. It's going to energize a lot of the electorate.....

SCOTUS has actually made Mitt Romney's campaign worthless because he'll now win regardless of how he campaigns.

He'll ride this to the White House just as those in 2010 rode the exact same tide to Congress.

Enjoy a few more vacations to Martha's Vineyard, Obama, for you, too, will join the 8.2%+ of the unemployed.