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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ben Carson: Prison makes people go gay on: Today at 11:02:20 am
After listening to that, I think the more urgent question is whether Carson was born stupid or stupidity is his choice.  Fortunately, freedom still wins in the end, since we don't have to elect him to anything.  

He's only stupid when talking about politics. If a fish can't climb a tree, is the fish stupid?
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws on: Today at 07:55:32 am
THIS DAY IN HISTORY:

On this day 11 years President George W. Bush announced his support for an Amendment to the Constitution of the United States to ban Same Sex Marriage.

So, how's that goin'?  Wink

More likely than not Bush supports SSM today.
3  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Best President elected from New York? on: March 03, 2015, 12:02:02 pm
What about Nixon?
4  General Discussion / History / Re: What US election was the first you consider democratic? on: March 01, 2015, 08:22:25 pm
What's the reasoning behind each of the poll options? (Besides 1789, 1920, and 1968)
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the Previous Poster's Signature: The Wrath of Khan on: February 28, 2015, 10:35:22 am
Nice. Were those his last words? It would be fitting if so.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NC Senate considers bill for magistrates to opt-out of SSM marriages on: February 28, 2015, 03:28:26 am
Religious freedom. Forcing someone to obey a law that's against their religion is a violation of civil liberties.

What happens if they change religions, or change interpretation of their existing religion and now support things they once opposed and oppose things they once supported. Can they now ignore different bits of the law depending on what they decide to believe in?

Why should religious freedom be the only 'freedom' that should be allowed to opt out of the law. What about non-religious positions? What about ethical stances? Political ones, ideological ones. If you are a self described fascist and the traditions and stances of fascism resonate with you in your daily life and give you order, purpose and morals, should you be allowed to opt out of the laws that go against your fascist beliefs?

What about the other parts of the First Amendment? If it's your Freedom of Speech to say you think the races shouldn't mix, should you be allowed to ignore a law that's against their personal beliefs? Should the press be allowed to ignore the law because their rights are protected?


Our resident vocal atheist strikes.

First of all, civil liberties based on religion are perfectly acceptable. If you want to go back to discriminate because of religion, then do that.

Second, the fascism comparison is terrible. No fascist would have a chance at being a judge, regardless of what people say. Unlike political ideology, religious values and virtues (or according to you, lack therof) are brought up from youth. They may change ideas regarding their beliefs, but still hold morals. Every atheist knows that cheating, coventing, disrespect, and extramarital affiars are bad without having to look at the Ten Commandments.
7  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Andrew Cuomo vs. Boku No Pico on: February 28, 2015, 03:17:50 am
I'm not sure how many laws Boku no Pico would violate in the U.S.

Not many, actually.

Child porn is ok as long as its cartoons?
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the Previous Poster's Signature: The Wrath of Khan on: February 27, 2015, 10:00:45 pm
It would be more like a half documentary, which doesn't win Oscars.
9  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: RIP Leonard Nimoy on: February 27, 2015, 07:26:12 pm
Don't call this trolling, because it's actually fitting:

KHAAAAAAAN!
10  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Just how did we find out Napoleon was Kyle Mercado? on: February 27, 2015, 07:23:52 pm
But how did we find the connection to Libertas? Was kyle just viewing his profile?
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oldiesfreak Theatre of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts V on: February 27, 2015, 04:54:06 pm
Religious freedom. Forcing someone to obey a law that's against their religion is a violation of civil liberties.

What happens if they change religions, or change interpretation of their existing religion and now support things they once opposed and oppose things they once supported. Can they now ignore different bits of the law depending on what they decide to believe in?

Why should religious freedom be the only 'freedom' that should be allowed to opt out of the law. What about non-religious positions? What about ethical stances? Political ones, ideological ones. If you are a self described fascist and the traditions and stances of fascism resonate with you in your daily life and give you order, purpose and morals, should you be allowed to opt out of the laws that go against your fascist beliefs?

What about the other parts of the First Amendment? If it's your Freedom of Speech to say you think the races shouldn't mix, should you be allowed to ignore a law that's against their personal beliefs? Should the press be allowed to ignore the law because their rights are protected?

12  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Just how did we find out Napoleon was Kyle Mercado? on: February 27, 2015, 04:49:34 pm
Looking at the post, it seems more like it says Napoleon was Libertas. Was Libertas also Kyle?
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Walmart Giving All Employees a Raise to $10/Hour on: February 26, 2015, 11:22:44 pm
Even ignoring the effect on small businesses, the overall cost of life should be higher. Has that happened since then?
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Walmart Giving All Employees a Raise to $10/Hour on: February 26, 2015, 10:11:15 pm
Ugh.  Not enough.  The min. wage should be $15 at the least but all we are going to hear is "praise Money-Jesus the invisible hand has saved us all again!"

I didn't know you hated small businesses.

I didn't know your grasp of economics was that...well...loose.
Small businesses can't afford such a high wage without damaging themselves, and everything would also become more expensive as more money means higher prices.
15  General Discussion / History / Re: War of 1812: Win, Loss, or Draw for America? on: February 26, 2015, 09:56:28 pm
A win for the simple reason that we got both The Star Spangled Banner and Andrew Jackson as a result of it.

Fixed.

But seriously, I voted draw.

Obviously you are tone deaf.  To be fair Francis Scott Key didn't pair up his poem with that tune, and that tune isn't bad for a singer trying to show their chops, but it's horrible for an anthem intended to be widely sung.

Well, do you want Yankee Doodle to be the national anthem instead?
16  General Discussion / History / Re: What US election was the first you consider democratic? on: February 26, 2015, 09:55:17 pm
1920 when the Nineteenth Amendment granted women the right to vote.

May 21, 1919 passed U.S. House of Representatives 304 for to 89 against

Republicans 200 for, 19 against  Republicans 91% for, 9% against
Democrats 102 for, 69 against  Democrats 60% for, 40% against
Union Labor 1 for, 0 against
Prohibitionist 1 for, 0 against

June 4, 1919 passed U.S. Senate 56 for to 25 against

Republicans 36 for, 8 against  Republicans 82% for, 18% against
Democrats 20 for, 17 against  Democrats 54% for, 46% against

It is clear from these numbers that it was the Republicans who were at the forefront of granting women the right to vote, while it was the Democrats who were reluctant to do so and were dragging their feet on this issue.

It was much the same situation with the Thirteenth Amendment, abolishing slavery, where it was the Republicans who were at the forefront of this amendment to abolish slavery and it was the Democrats who were reluctant to abolish slavery and who were dragging their feet on the issue of abolishing slavery.



But 40 years later they did a 180 and switched sides.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NC Senate considers bill for magistrates to opt-out of SSM marriages on: February 26, 2015, 09:46:13 pm
Religious freedom. Forcing someone to obey a law that's against their religion is a violation of civil liberties.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: "Who would fictional characters vote for?" omnibus thread on: February 26, 2015, 09:35:05 pm
Even more embarrassing than the Hamtaro one:

Harem anime protagonists(forget the fact that they're all mostly Japanese):

Minato from Sekirei-Republican, he's a general who gets hot girls to fight each other.
Issei from High School DXD-Libertarian, he wants freedom to have his own harem and look and boobs.
Ayumu from Is This A Zombie-Can't vote, he's a zombie. He'd fry himself on the way to the polling center.
Akatsuki from Aethetica of a Rogue Hero-Either write in himself or not vote
Araragi from the Monogatari series-He's an exorcist, likely Republican
Keima from The World God Only Knows-Too busy locked in his room playing dating sims to vote.
Kirito from Sword Art Online-Independent, he's a lone wolf despite having a harem
Hayate from Hayate The Combat Butler-Democratic, he needs the welfare to pay his debt.
Makoto from School Days-He's dead! Dead men don't vote! (Except in 1960's Chicago)
Negi from Negima!-He's just a kid, but likely Democrat being a magic teacher.
Ichika from Infinite Stratos-Too dense to recognize what the candidates stand for, will likely be forced to vote by his sister, who is certainly a Democrat.
Taro from MM!-As a hxc machocist, he votes for the war party.
Saito from The Familiar of Zero-Louise beats him into writing in herself.
Tsukune from Rosario + Vampire-Doesn't participate in an anti-monster government
Takashi from High School of the Dead-Both candidates are zombies, he's more concerned with staying alive than voting.
Godou from Capione!-The killer of gods doesn't vote, he kills gods.
Kodaka from I Don't Have Many Friends-Democratic, English Catholic.
Rito from To Love-Ru- Write In: Lala's father; he doesn't want to get on the king of the universe's bad side.

And not a harem anime, but he does have one:

Ash Ketchum from Pokémon-The party that will finally make him win the Pokémon League, making him a Pokémon master!
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Walmart Giving All Employees a Raise to $10/Hour on: February 26, 2015, 04:42:38 pm
Ugh.  Not enough.  The min. wage should be $15 at the least but all we are going to hear is "praise Money-Jesus the invisible hand has saved us all again!"

I didn't know you hated small businesses.
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Abraham Lincoln vs. Franklin Roosevelt on: February 25, 2015, 10:17:40 pm
The one that ended a form of slavery rather than prolong it.

How did FDR prolong slavery?
21  General Discussion / History / Re: War of 1812: Win, Loss, or Draw for America? on: February 25, 2015, 10:16:08 pm
A win for the simple reason that we got both The Star Spangled Banner and Andrew Jackson as a result of it.

Fixed.

But seriously, I voted draw.
22  General Discussion / History / Re: Ethnicity of US Presidents on: February 25, 2015, 10:15:18 pm
So that's how many non-White Anglo-Saxon Protestant presidents?
23  General Discussion / History / Re: Moses, Hebrews leaving Egypt, etc. - backed up by other histories? on: February 25, 2015, 01:55:18 pm
Let's consult my Biblical Archeology Textbook:

"There are no specific Egyptian references to the sojourn, the Exodus, Joseph, or Moses. For two reasons this silence is not surprising. First, any record of Joseph was lost in the Egyptian purge of Hyksos history. It is not possible to give even a full list of Hyksos kings, let alone their viziers. Second, since the Egyptians had little interest in recording setbacks it is unlikely that the exodus and its attendant problems would have been recorded."
24  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What should the voting age be? on: February 24, 2015, 10:45:56 pm

I know way to many stupid, immature sixteen-year-olds to support blanket suffrage starting at this age; however, I might support allowing sixteen-year-olds who earn enough to pay income tax the right to vote, since I oppose taxation without representation.

What about states where there is no income tax? (And one of them is the all-important Florida)
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: IT'S MY BIRTHDAY on: February 24, 2015, 10:42:42 pm
If a mod stickies a thread on its birthday, is that abuse of power?
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