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7226  Election Archive / 2010 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: MA: Suffolk University: Patrick remains in control of the race on: October 14, 2010, 11:31:42 am
Deval is toxic (actually somewhat unfairly), so I'm pretty sure this year will be his last race.
7227  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is listing your middlie initial and postal code on a personal mailing address... on: October 14, 2010, 09:47:35 am
I wouldn't put my name in my return address as "Mr." but I always write the mailing address that way.  You can't ever be too polite.
7228  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Partisan Voter Registration totals on: October 14, 2010, 09:44:44 am
Blue states are becoming bluer and red states are becoming redder.
7229  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Has anyone heard that David Duke may run? on: October 14, 2010, 09:42:40 am
This one will last a while.

Anyways, the Republican Party won't let him on the primary ballot.  Not that he would get over 0.1% of the vote even if he was.
7230  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Was the 1868 presidential election a landslide? on: October 14, 2010, 09:39:13 am
A crushing victory in the electoral vote, but a relatively narrow victory in the popular vote.  Is that a "landslide" in your book?
7231  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Who would you have voted for... on: October 14, 2010, 09:29:57 am
Reagan spent 8 years in office with remarkably little foreign intervention for a 20th-century president.

what

It's true.  His presidency was marked by a conspicuous lack of sending American troops into harm's way.  Beyond the hawkish rhetoric, Reagan was, policy-wise, quite the dove (as he apparently was in private, too - he was terrified of having his own Vietnam, hence the immediate withdrawal from Lebanon when SHTF).

You may recall that Bush campaigned on a "humble foreign policy."
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You would of fell for that?

Well, yes, I would have.  Given that the Republicans opposed Kosovo and nearly all of Clinton's other misadventures.  I was stupid enough to fall for it in '08, when I both voted in the Democratic primary for Obama and even sent $50 to his campaign, under the mistaken impression that he actually wanted to end the wars.
7232  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Who would you have voted for... on: October 13, 2010, 11:39:30 pm
Indian Removal did occur under Jackson and Van Buren, but it must be remembered that 1. it's not like Jackson and Van Buren's political opponents had modern, enlightened views vis-a-vis the Indians, and 2. the Indians would have likely been exterminated by settlers had they not been relocated.  Jackson and Van Buren also didn't have the bizarre obsessions with taking away free speech rights and/or getting into fights with random foreign countries that typified their political opponents.

Van Buren changed his mind on tariffs.

Hence why I change my vote for Nixon to one for McCarthy in hindsight.

Schmitz was messed up - but look at Grover Cleveland (and his opponents!).  I decided to make my list by giving each candidate's platform a fair shake, and Schmitz's was closest to mine in 1972.  To be honest, I likely still wouldn't vote for him, but judging simply by the standards of their political platforms, his was the best.

Reagan spent 8 years in office with remarkably little foreign intervention for a 20th-century president.  Nobody "let the social cons lead the Republicans."  If anything, that happened after 1996.  It's not like Carter or Mondale opposed the War on Drugs.  I don't know who the last president to run mainly surpluses was - Coolidge?  In any case, there would not be an economic conservative movement in the US today without Reagan, so he's a necessary evil for my goals.

Hence why I change my vote to Browne (Vice-President Lieberman after 9/11 scares me, especially if they succeed in flying a plane into the White House . . .) in 2000 with hindsight, and choose Kerry in '04.  You may recall that Bush campaigned on a "humble foreign policy."
7233  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Who would you have voted for... on: October 13, 2010, 11:20:46 pm
I forgot about Webster in 1836.  List amended with my favorite politician of the period.  Van Buren still was more anti-slavery than his other Whig opponents.  Jackson, Adams, and Clay all had the exact same position on slavery.
7234  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: MORE EMAILS on: October 13, 2010, 11:05:27 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/14/nyregion/14paladino.html?_r=2
7235  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Who would you have voted for... on: October 13, 2010, 10:49:05 pm
To get my economic score you need to put "this is a critical issue to me."  No politicians are advocating the legalization of prostitution, for example, so whatever its criticality to me, and I do find it important, it's irrelevant to how I'm going to vote.  Van Buren was the only anti-slavery candidate in 1836.
7236  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Who would you have voted for... on: October 13, 2010, 10:41:08 pm
There is no way a Jackson, Van Buren (1836), Nixon, Schmitz, Reagan, Bush vote has a lower Social score then me.

I didn't know you were such a big fan of slavery.

Jackson: tariff & national bank

Van Buren: tariff & slavery

Nixon: anti-war platform (also was no more or less of a social liberal than his opponents)

Schmitz: anti-war, civil liberties, economic freedom.  A real creep personally, but had the best platform.  You may note that my unranked vote is for McGovern.

Reagan: taxes & entitlement programs

Bush: ditto
7237  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: Congressmen of New England Survivor ROUND 2 on: October 13, 2010, 10:35:13 pm
Eliminate:

3: Congressman Barney FRANK (D-MA)
2: Congressman James McGOVERN (D-MA)
1: Congressman Michael CAPUANO (D-MA)

Keep:

2: Congressman Stephen LYNCH (D-MA)
7238  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Do you support a legislative re-boot? on: October 13, 2010, 10:29:18 pm
Since it would have the practical effect of repealing everything, I'm all for it.  Just amend it so that the reboot is weekly. Wink
7239  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Who would you have voted for... on: October 13, 2010, 10:27:57 pm
Thanks for confirming that you have a fake PM score, wormyguy.

If I felt like having a fake PM score, it would certainly be +10, -10.  I can defend any one of those votes from a libertarian position, even if (in many cases), it's simply a vote for the lesser of two evils.
7240  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Post random maps here on: October 13, 2010, 10:14:29 pm
You'll never figure out this one.

7241  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Who would you have voted for... on: October 13, 2010, 09:49:39 pm
Anyways:

(I'll indicate where I would change my vote with hindsight or where I would change my vote in a ranked voting system).  I'm also only doing candidates who were on the ballot or were qualified write-in candidates in Massachusetts.

1789:  Uhh . . . George Washington (independent Federalist)
1792:  Uhh . . . George Washington (independent Federalist)
1796: Thomas Jefferson (Republican)
1800: Thomas Jefferson (Republican)
1804: Thomas Jefferson (Republican)
1808: James Madison (Republican)
1812: DeWitt Clinton (Federalist)
1816: James Monroe (Republican)
1820: Uhh . . . James Monroe (Republican)
1824: William Crawford (Republican)
1828: Andrew Jackson (Andrew Jackson Party)
1832: Andrew Jackson (Democratic)
1836: Daniel Webster (Mass. Whig)
1840: James Birney (Liberty)
1844: James Birney (Liberty)
1848: Martin Van Buren (Free Soil)
1852: Daniel Webster (Union)
1856: John Fremont (Republican)
1860: John Bell (Constitutional Union)
1864: George McClellan (Democratic)
1868: Ulysses Grant (Republican)
1872: Charles O'Conor (Straight-Out Democrat)
1876: Samuel Tilden (Democratic)
1880: Winfield Hancock (Democratic)
1884: Grover Cleveland (Democratic)
1888: Grover Cleveland (Democratic)
1892: Grover Cleveland (Democratic)
1896: John Palmer (National Democratic)
1900: William McKinley (Republican)
1904: Alton Parker (Democratic)
1908: William Taft (Republican)
1912: William Taft (Republican)
1916: Charles Hughes (Republican)
1920: Warren Harding (Republican)
1924: Calvin Coolidge (Republican)
1928: Al Smith (Democratic)
1932: Herbert Hoover (Republican)
1936: Alf Landon (Republican)
1940: Wendell Willkie (Republican)
1944: Thomas Dewey (Republican)
1948: Thomas Dewey (Republican)
1952: Dwight Eisenhower (Republican)
1956: Dwight Eisenhower (Republican)
1960: Richard Nixon (Republican)
1964: Barry Goldwater (Republican)
1968: Richard Nixon (Republican)  With hindsight: Eugene McCarthy (independent)
1972: George McGovern (Democratic)  With ranked voting: John Schmitz (American)
1976: Genuinely undecided, lean Jimmy Carter (Democratic)  With ranked voting: Roger MacBride (Libertarian)
1980: Ronald Reagan (Republican)  With ranked voting: Ed Clark (Libertarian)
1984: Ronald Reagan (Republican)  With ranked voting: David Bergland (Libertarian)
1988: George Bush (Republican)  With ranked voting: Ron Paul (Libertarian)
1992: Ross Perot (independent)  With ranked voting: Andre Marrou (Libertarian)
1996: Bob Dole (Republican)  With ranked voting: Harry Browne (Libertarian)
2000: George Bush (Republican)  With hindsight or ranked voting: Harry Browne (Libertarian)
2004: John Kerry (Democratic)  With ranked voting: Michael Badnarik (Libertarian)
2008: Bob Barr (Libertarian)

Yes, I occasionally would have supported unsavory characters.  I try to consider the candidates based on their platforms, not their personalities, and in the case of several evils I try to choose the least of them.  That does not imply I endorse their entire platform or take issue with the entire platform of other candidates, nor does it imply that I have a high opinion of the person.  I've bolded the candidates whom I have a high personal opinion of.
7242  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Who would you have voted for... on: October 13, 2010, 08:52:18 pm
Kennedy was willing to risk ending human civilization in order to make himself look slightly more tough on foreign policy.  He spent his entire life as a non-stop pleasure party while everyone else did the heavy lifting and the hard work for him.  If he wasn't a sociopath, he almost certainly was something along that spectrum - at least Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
7243  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Coons, O'Donnell debate live on CNN tonight. on: October 13, 2010, 08:30:51 pm
EDIT: On a vaguely related note, does it annoy anyone else when politicians say "my opponent"? It's a little childish.

Not really.  It grates on me more when they act overly familiar to each other, since it's clear they generally hate each others' guts.
7244  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: How to stop the revival of Laissez-Faire? on: October 13, 2010, 05:44:59 pm
You can start by recognizing that there is no chance of any program getting abolished, except maybe Obamacare prior to it starting up in full. People will fight to the death for their precious entitlement programs.

Yes.  I would love it if what the OP is saying were true.  Unfortunately, it's not, so we have to wait for entitlement programs to abolish themselves when we go bankrupt.
7245  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Liberalism? on: October 13, 2010, 05:23:08 pm
Ah, "progressivism."  The idea that we ought to cease all progress in society and culture in favor of petty tribalism and caveman notions of "fairness."

I have never met some one thinks like that, where do they live?

1600 Pennsylvania avenue.

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7246  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Re: John McCain/Hillary Clinton vs. Barack Obama/Joe Biden - 2008 on: October 13, 2010, 05:10:49 pm
You think that many Democrats would break with Obama to vote for McCain just because of Hillary?

Yes.

A lot of Hillary voters initially changed their mind because of McCain's female running mate.  If Hillary herself was on McCain's ticket, it would have been a blowout.  Especially since Hillary is a much more polished figure than Palin and can't possibly be accused of being any sort of "right-wing extremist."
7247  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Liberalism? on: October 13, 2010, 05:09:41 pm
Ah, "progressivism."  The idea that we ought to cease all progress in society and culture in favor of petty tribalism and caveman notions of "fairness."

Worst ideology that has ever existed (also the oldest) besides those that actually involved murdering people as one of their chief tenets.
7248  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Closest Senate race (by %) will be in...... on: October 13, 2010, 04:59:21 pm
I'll go out on a limb and say Connecticut.
7249  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: US Congressional Delegations Survivor ROUND 41 on: October 12, 2010, 10:54:57 pm
NY
7250  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is listing your middlie initial and postal code on a personal mailing address... on: October 12, 2010, 09:11:18 pm
No.  For example, my father and I have the same first name, but a different middle name, so listing my middle initial would be necessary to differentiate myself from him.  Also, you're making it a great deal more difficult for the post office if you don't use zipcodes.
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