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7226  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who would you have voted for... on: October 13, 2010, 09:49:39 pm
Anyways:

(I'll indicate where I would change my vote with hindsight or where I would change my vote in a ranked voting system).  I'm also only doing candidates who were on the ballot or were qualified write-in candidates in Massachusetts.

1789:  Uhh . . . George Washington (independent Federalist)
1792:  Uhh . . . George Washington (independent Federalist)
1796: Thomas Jefferson (Republican)
1800: Thomas Jefferson (Republican)
1804: Thomas Jefferson (Republican)
1808: James Madison (Republican)
1812: DeWitt Clinton (Federalist)
1816: James Monroe (Republican)
1820: Uhh . . . James Monroe (Republican)
1824: William Crawford (Republican)
1828: Andrew Jackson (Andrew Jackson Party)
1832: Andrew Jackson (Democratic)
1836: Daniel Webster (Mass. Whig)
1840: James Birney (Liberty)
1844: James Birney (Liberty)
1848: Martin Van Buren (Free Soil)
1852: Daniel Webster (Union)
1856: John Fremont (Republican)
1860: John Bell (Constitutional Union)
1864: George McClellan (Democratic)
1868: Ulysses Grant (Republican)
1872: Charles O'Conor (Straight-Out Democrat)
1876: Samuel Tilden (Democratic)
1880: Winfield Hancock (Democratic)
1884: Grover Cleveland (Democratic)
1888: Grover Cleveland (Democratic)
1892: Grover Cleveland (Democratic)
1896: John Palmer (National Democratic)
1900: William McKinley (Republican)
1904: Alton Parker (Democratic)
1908: William Taft (Republican)
1912: William Taft (Republican)
1916: Charles Hughes (Republican)
1920: Warren Harding (Republican)
1924: Calvin Coolidge (Republican)
1928: Al Smith (Democratic)
1932: Herbert Hoover (Republican)
1936: Alf Landon (Republican)
1940: Wendell Willkie (Republican)
1944: Thomas Dewey (Republican)
1948: Thomas Dewey (Republican)
1952: Dwight Eisenhower (Republican)
1956: Dwight Eisenhower (Republican)
1960: Richard Nixon (Republican)
1964: Barry Goldwater (Republican)
1968: Richard Nixon (Republican)  With hindsight: Eugene McCarthy (independent)
1972: George McGovern (Democratic)  With ranked voting: John Schmitz (American)
1976: Genuinely undecided, lean Jimmy Carter (Democratic)  With ranked voting: Roger MacBride (Libertarian)
1980: Ronald Reagan (Republican)  With ranked voting: Ed Clark (Libertarian)
1984: Ronald Reagan (Republican)  With ranked voting: David Bergland (Libertarian)
1988: George Bush (Republican)  With ranked voting: Ron Paul (Libertarian)
1992: Ross Perot (independent)  With ranked voting: Andre Marrou (Libertarian)
1996: Bob Dole (Republican)  With ranked voting: Harry Browne (Libertarian)
2000: George Bush (Republican)  With hindsight or ranked voting: Harry Browne (Libertarian)
2004: John Kerry (Democratic)  With ranked voting: Michael Badnarik (Libertarian)
2008: Bob Barr (Libertarian)

Yes, I occasionally would have supported unsavory characters.  I try to consider the candidates based on their platforms, not their personalities, and in the case of several evils I try to choose the least of them.  That does not imply I endorse their entire platform or take issue with the entire platform of other candidates, nor does it imply that I have a high opinion of the person.  I've bolded the candidates whom I have a high personal opinion of.
7227  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who would you have voted for... on: October 13, 2010, 08:52:18 pm
Kennedy was willing to risk ending human civilization in order to make himself look slightly more tough on foreign policy.  He spent his entire life as a non-stop pleasure party while everyone else did the heavy lifting and the hard work for him.  If he wasn't a sociopath, he almost certainly was something along that spectrum - at least Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
7228  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Coons, O'Donnell debate live on CNN tonight. on: October 13, 2010, 08:30:51 pm
EDIT: On a vaguely related note, does it annoy anyone else when politicians say "my opponent"? It's a little childish.

Not really.  It grates on me more when they act overly familiar to each other, since it's clear they generally hate each others' guts.
7229  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: How to stop the revival of Laissez-Faire? on: October 13, 2010, 05:44:59 pm
You can start by recognizing that there is no chance of any program getting abolished, except maybe Obamacare prior to it starting up in full. People will fight to the death for their precious entitlement programs.

Yes.  I would love it if what the OP is saying were true.  Unfortunately, it's not, so we have to wait for entitlement programs to abolish themselves when we go bankrupt.
7230  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Liberalism? on: October 13, 2010, 05:23:08 pm
Ah, "progressivism."  The idea that we ought to cease all progress in society and culture in favor of petty tribalism and caveman notions of "fairness."

I have never met some one thinks like that, where do they live?

1600 Pennsylvania avenue.

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7231  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Re: John McCain/Hillary Clinton vs. Barack Obama/Joe Biden - 2008 on: October 13, 2010, 05:10:49 pm
You think that many Democrats would break with Obama to vote for McCain just because of Hillary?

Yes.

A lot of Hillary voters initially changed their mind because of McCain's female running mate.  If Hillary herself was on McCain's ticket, it would have been a blowout.  Especially since Hillary is a much more polished figure than Palin and can't possibly be accused of being any sort of "right-wing extremist."
7232  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Liberalism? on: October 13, 2010, 05:09:41 pm
Ah, "progressivism."  The idea that we ought to cease all progress in society and culture in favor of petty tribalism and caveman notions of "fairness."

Worst ideology that has ever existed (also the oldest) besides those that actually involved murdering people as one of their chief tenets.
7233  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Closest Senate race (by %) will be in...... on: October 13, 2010, 04:59:21 pm
I'll go out on a limb and say Connecticut.
7234  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: US Congressional Delegations Survivor ROUND 41 on: October 12, 2010, 10:54:57 pm
NY
7235  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is listing your middlie initial and postal code on a personal mailing address... on: October 12, 2010, 09:11:18 pm
No.  For example, my father and I have the same first name, but a different middle name, so listing my middle initial would be necessary to differentiate myself from him.  Also, you're making it a great deal more difficult for the post office if you don't use zipcodes.
7236  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Populares Convention, Oct. 2010 on: October 12, 2010, 08:03:32 pm
Can we just say that they're all reelected?
7237  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who would you have voted for... on: October 12, 2010, 06:49:33 pm
It's just our luck that in the 20th century that we got 3 sociopaths in a row for President.

Kennedy/Ford was a sociopath? Or are you refering to a different streak?

Kennedy/Johnson/Nixon
7238  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who would you have voted for... on: October 12, 2010, 04:40:46 pm
It's just our luck that in the 20th century that we got 3 sociopaths in a row for President.
7239  Election Archive / 2010 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: IL: Southern Illinois University: Brady leads by 8 on: October 12, 2010, 03:54:41 pm
20% undecided in mid-October?
7240  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Student tuition fees: Browne review urges no limits on: October 12, 2010, 03:52:54 pm
12,000 a year would not be on the high end here.

When you factor in financial aid, it would be.
7241  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: Congressmen of New England Survivor ROUND 2 on: October 12, 2010, 03:37:13 pm
Eliminate:

Congressman John TIERNEY (D-MA)
Congressman Barney FRANK (D-MA)
Congressman James McGOVERN (D-MA)

Keep:

Congressman Stephen LYNCH (D-MA)

Immunize:

Senator Scott BROWN (R-MA)
7242  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: What the odds of the following scenarios? on: October 12, 2010, 03:33:32 pm

Democrats keep both the House and the Senate - 20%

Democrats lose the House but keep the Senate - 55%

Democrats keep the House but lose the Senate - 5%

Democrats lose both the House and the Senate - 30%

20+55+5+30 = 110
7243  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Federalists or Anti-Federalists? on: October 12, 2010, 03:32:02 pm
Definitely anti-Federalist in hindsight, probably still at the Con-Con too.
7244  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: It costs the US $50 million to kill each member of the Taliban on: October 12, 2010, 03:30:47 pm
The objective isn't to kill as many Taliban as possible. If it were, we would just carpet bomb the whole region. The objective is to create some kind of state in Afghanistan that is non-Taliban controlled and stable.

Never in the entire history of the "country" has there even been "some kind of state," much less a "stable" one.  It's an impossible task.

Your grasp of history is appalling.

Quite. It was pretty stable until 1979, IIRC.



There has not ever been an Afghan "government" that has had any sort of effective control of anything beyond the immediate vicinity of Kabul.  The rest is controlled by various tribal warlords or coalitions of warlords.  "Stable" governments in the past have merely avoided irritating the warlords in the rural (for lack of a better word) areas too much.  The idea that Afghanistan can be made some sort of unitary state is historically, culturally, ethnically, linguistically, economically, militarily, and logistically (since much of the country is inaccessible from other parts except by horseback or even helicopter) impossible.  For good reason - "Afghanistan" as a country is an entirely artificial construct brought about by the fact that it was such a crappy and ungovernable scrap of land that neither Britain nor Russia ever felt like including it in one of their 19th-century annexation sprees.

You may want to broaden your grasp of history beyond Wikipedia.
7245  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Angle raised $14 million in 3rd quarter. on: October 12, 2010, 03:14:15 pm
That erases Reid's cash on hand advantage.  Ironically, this might mean that Angle is a stronger candidate than Lowden would have been, since I doubt Lowden could have raised half that much.
7246  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: What the odds of the following scenarios? on: October 12, 2010, 03:12:10 pm
Democrats keep both the House and the Senate

5%

Democrats lose the House but keep the Senate

50%

Democrats keep the House but lose the Senate

5%

Democrats lose both the House and the Senate

40%
7247  Election Archive / 2010 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: OH: Rasmussen: Lee Fisher = Fail on: October 12, 2010, 02:47:48 pm
I believe I said a week ago that O'Donnell had a better chance than Fisher and was laughed at.
7248  Election Archive / 2010 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: CT: Fox News: McMahon cuts into Blumenthal lead on: October 12, 2010, 10:50:41 am
If Blumenthal hadn't given the worst answer ever as to how to create jobs, this race would be over.  As it is, he likely wins, but he's doing his best to lose it.  I hope he doesn't know the word "maccaca".

We need to create jobs through creative policies!  He stood up for jobs!  A job can be created by a variety of ways!
7249  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Populares Convention, Oct. 2010 on: October 11, 2010, 10:47:56 pm
Official Ballot:

Chairman

[1] Jbrase
[  ] Write-In: __________

Vice-Chairman

[1] Han
[  ] Write-In: __________

Whip

[1] Libertas
[  ] Write-In: __________

Chief Director

[1] SvenssonRS
[  ] Write-In: __________

Secretary

[1] NiK
[  ] Write-In: __________
7250  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Robert Healey (Cool Moose) for RI Lt Gov, a position he wants to eliminate. on: October 11, 2010, 09:27:16 pm
He's a perennial candidate. He ran for Governor in '94 and '98 and Lt. Governor in '02 and '06.

And he did relatively well each time.
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