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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Opinion of the FairTax on: Today at 10:53:24 am
Needs work.  I'm all for simplifying the tax code but not for the interests of the super wealthy.

Any simple tax should get nearly all its money from the same sources our complicated system does.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gay marriage opponents' strategy uncertain in 2015 on: Today at 10:49:45 am
Maybe spend less time worrying about why people choose the avatars they have and more time focusing on your flawed arguments on this topic...?

I happen to believe that avatars should mean something. At least to the point where they don't indicate the complete opposite of your actual political positions. Enough said.



you are way too dependant on identity politics to be an independent.  pls resign
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: I see the GOP being the dominant Party in the US for decades to come on: Today at 10:46:28 am
     I see lots of things happening and both parties oscillating in share of power. Predicting dominance or demise for either the Democrats or the Republicans is an ever popular and ever futile exercise.

The other side does it way more than we do...

Does what?  There was no action being described in that post
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Dennis michael Lynch is in: Does he have a chance? on: April 25, 2015, 07:18:57 pm
Who?
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who would you vote for? on: April 25, 2015, 07:02:14 pm
Giving a social conservative the keys to a welfare state is asking for fascism.
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: charlie baker approval at 70% on: April 25, 2015, 06:33:39 pm
When was the last time the VP was a Popular Governor™?

Why would a Popular Governor™ resign his job where he does things to take a job where he does nothing?
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gay marriage opponents' strategy uncertain in 2015 on: April 25, 2015, 06:00:00 pm
We don't need public policy on creating an environment for procreation. There are people living in piles of trash in third world countries having children. It's one of the few things humans don't have to be coaxed into doing.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: Fox: close race national on: April 25, 2015, 05:55:43 pm
Nicotine gum.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: Fox: close race national on: April 25, 2015, 04:09:53 pm
JUNK POLL! Hillary is ahead by at least 15 points. #CNNpoll  #50statesofHillary  #Hilldawg
Oh, and:   >Fox

yeah all us Democrats are gonna feel like idiots on election night when Clinton is HUMILIATED with only a five point margin of victory and 350 electoral votes.

LOLOL 350 EV?! Go away you right-wing hack! She will win at least 550 EV (50 states + DC + Puerto Rico).

My sig sums up your whining.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Snyder set to announce soon. on: April 25, 2015, 02:22:20 pm
That also assumes every single candidate that is being discussed will enter the race which is certainly not true

Who do you not see running? I think everyone is in.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: GAME CHANGE: Dog the Bounty Hunter endorses Clinton on: April 25, 2015, 12:03:21 pm
What the hell was that show? FOX News may be going a little too far with the hot women dropping conservative talking points strategy.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Snyder set to announce soon. on: April 25, 2015, 11:59:57 am
The Republican Debates format will have to be like Scripps National Spelling Bee.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Would you have voted for the Iraq War? on: April 24, 2015, 03:25:07 pm
Yes.
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: National poll by Quinniepiac: Rubio jumps ahead on: April 24, 2015, 01:59:48 pm
The media will be on Hillary's side once she is the nominee. They are desperate for Warren or O'Mallet to emerge

Absolutely right.

Not necessarily. They sided with Bush over Gore in 2000.

2000 was 15 years ago. A lot has changed.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Rand Paul skips hearing on State Department funding to blast Hillary on Benghazi on: April 24, 2015, 12:35:52 pm
But what is the Benghazi scandal? That's what makes it worse.

I know what the 9/11 Truth scandal is.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Could someone else win? on: April 24, 2015, 11:17:46 am
Clinton-Cruz, maybe.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Huckabee: US moving towards "criminalization of Christianity" on: April 24, 2015, 11:14:51 am
Christians who claim the "persecution" and "criminalization" of the faith in the United States belittle the actual persecution of Christians in places such as Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, and North Korea.

Persecution of Christians in the Arab Spring got some play. They definitely do not care about sub-Saharan Africa and Palestinian Christians.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bush's fundraising edge on shaky ground on: April 24, 2015, 11:03:45 am
The first debate is going to be a bloodbath for Jeb. Everyone on the stage is going to hit him.

They will pile on whoever is the frontrunner by then. If Rubio is ahead and Jeb is third, fourth place, then I doubt that Walker, Paul, Huckabee and the rest will spend their time trashing the latter and leaving unscathed the former.

Maybe, but I feel like the first order of business will be to destroy the establishment candidate in Jeb.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gay marriage opponents' strategy uncertain in 2015 on: April 24, 2015, 11:00:21 am
Sorry TJ and CCSF, but you two are actually more like the Pharisees, who felt their religious law was being threatened and used Roman Law to persecute the reformers--Jesus and his disciples.

That problem with that interpretation is that Jesus is merely a reformer and that the Pharisees were merely trying follow the law. Neither is the case. The Pharisees were abusing law in a number of ways and Jesus was the completion of the Jewish law. He was not merely a political activist trying to change laws and his main reference to the government was to tell people to render unto Cesar what is Cesar's. The idea of Christians as political force wasn't really a thing in those days. Also the main point of my original post in this thread was that we should stop worrying about the laws.

But that's not what the Pharisees thought. They themselves thought their way of life was being persecuted by radicals attempting to corrupt the word of God. To them, Jesus was a political activist trying to change the laws of Jerusalem.

Calling the Pharisees an abuser of laws and yourself not one is pure arrogance. There is a laundry list of biblical law both Old and New Testament that most American Protestants and Catholics do not follow, including yourself.  If a biblical scholar did an audit of your life/your church as the historians have done of the Pharisees, they would find you equally guilty of corruption.

It's easy to say you are like Jesus, a martyr. From the first person perspective of our own lives, I would say all of us feel like we are the martyr in our daily lives.  It's rarely true.

Whether or not one is truly a martyr is for the outside observer to decide.  Saints do not anoint themselves saints. I will say you are not a martyr. You are a Pharisee.
20  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: I'm going to Subway, do you want anything? My shout. on: April 24, 2015, 10:51:04 am
Roast beef from Jimmy John's.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Rand Paul skips hearing on State Department funding to blast Hillary on Benghazi on: April 24, 2015, 10:48:27 am
Why should Paul be present? We all know he is going to vote against more funds anyway. Try harder.

You're missing the irony.  He wanted the State Department to have more security, but he wants to lower the State Department's budget which is what provides said security.  

And, again, Rand Paul is a clown because he buys into the Benghazi conspiracy theory.  Obama was an anti-war Senator once too, but he didn't accuse Bush of being involved in 9/11.  
Terrible analogy and you know it.

You're right. It's an insult to 9/11 Truthers.

At least with the 9/11 conspiracy I can coherently state what the theory is: the government staged the hijackings of the planes and controlled demolished the buildings to create a national security emergency for the purpose of allowing them to escalate the government's power of policing and funding for the military industrial complex. It's insane, but I understand what it is.

Almost three years in and I still have no idea what the gripes with Benghazi are; it just seems to be a bunch of chirping of "what happened? we don't know!"
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bush's fundraising edge on shaky ground on: April 24, 2015, 10:42:32 am
The first debate is going to be a bloodbath for Jeb. Everyone on the stage is going to hit him.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: More shady Clinton foundation stuff uncovered on: April 24, 2015, 10:41:36 am
I dont understand why partisan Dems dont see the disaster that Hillary will be for their party. She might win, might have moderate coattails, but the long term damage she does to the party will be enormous. Can the Dem party in 2018 stand another 2014 or 2010 rout?

Thanks to 2010 and 2014, there is essentially no Dem bench in many states, OH and FL among them. How far down does the Dem party want to fall so that Hillary can be president?

The Republicans muckrake against any Democratic candidate. Hillary has these scandals but if Warren the Fake Cherokee or Biden the Plagiarist Groper or anyone else were the nominee, these same books would still get written with conspiracy theories surrounding everyone they've ever met. To think that simply subbing out Hillary will make it go away is rubbish.

Boring old John Kerry probably had the cleanest nose of any Democratic nominee of the past the century and he was completely trashed as a fake war hero and liar.

The conservative talk radio/Breitbart/Drudge circuits are skilled at smearing anyone. It's an effective way to rally the far right base at a grassroots level. The media--conservative, liberal, and neutral--love the idea of scandals because its good for ratings, so they tend to buy in on accusations.

The question Democrats have to ask if they want to succeed is not "who can we get that won't get tarnished in scandal?" but "who can we get that will be able to defend themselves against the attempts to tarnish them with scandal?" The best answer is Clinton.

Otherwise, you end up with John Kerry and George McGovern getting punched in the face repeatedly without much resistance.
24  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: The Onion has a new clickbait site, and of course it's genius on: April 24, 2015, 10:03:58 am
http://www.clickhole.com/article/awesome-lucky-school-got-two-proms-2287

INSPIRING!
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gay marriage opponents' strategy uncertain in 2015 on: April 24, 2015, 09:54:51 am
Sorry TJ and CCSF, but you two are actually more like the Pharisees, who felt their religious law was being threatened and used Roman Law to persecute the reformers--Jesus and his disciples.
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