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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Study: Marijuana use dangerous to young peoples' brains on: April 17, 2014, 02:42:49 pm
The study was of people from 18-25. That's interesting. I guess maybe if I had not smoked pot then, I would have been a justice of the Supreme Court or something. I am not challenging the study. It just doesn't comport with my personal experience really. During that time I got 3 advanced degrees.

When did you start hitting the bong? As far as I know, studies like these show that marijuana use is markedly more detrimental during early teenage years compared to later teenage years.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Study: Marijuana use dangerous to young peoples' brains on: April 17, 2014, 02:41:39 pm
I'm convinced that daily marijuana use did a number on my recall abilities.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Should we have a ATLASFORUMCON? on: April 14, 2014, 03:56:59 pm
This is a terrible/great idea.
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: EP elections 2014 on: March 31, 2014, 04:36:34 pm
ND's level of support isn't surprisingly: Te Potami is mostly poaching voters from the right and there's a lot of disillusionment with New Democracy. What I find hard to believe is SYRIZA's similar erosion and the KKE's resilience.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AFP leader: $94K is 133% of poverty line on: March 31, 2014, 04:31:28 pm
While $94K is not below 133% of the poverty line it is below 400% of the poverty line for a family of four, and the 400% level is the point at which the subsidies phase out.  So yeah, a family of four making $94K is eligible for Obamacare subsidies.  I'm not going to spend 15 minutes listening to the whole clip to find the exact phrase used.  So yeah, if she said they qualified for Medicaid, she was wrong, but if she said they qualified for subsides, she was right, albeit not much of one at that level. (400% FPL for a family of four is $95,400.)

dam u really got us libtards with this sick burn

Did you even bother reading the article? This little spat exemplifies the GOP's willingness to blatantly lie to the public about the ACA and avoiding this obvious fact is tantamount to offering excuses for Republicans.

Yes, I read the article.  I just didn't bother spending 15 minutes on the video to find the exact quote the woman said to find out whether she's being misquoted or if she misspoke.  Further, if it was a case that she misspoke, I have no way of knowing whether she did so deliberately or not.  I'm not a libtard or teatard, so I lack the ability of knowing for certain that everything the opposition says is part of an insidious plot to deceive people and hide the monstrous agenda of the un-American scum out to enslave us all in corporate and/or socialist shackles.

So rather than waste my effort on playing gotcha, I simply reported that a family of four earning $94K is eligible for subsidies under the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare).

Your moderate hero act is stale: there is no comparison between the campaign of misinformation waged by the AFP/the GOP and the rhetoric of the netroots/liberals. The AFP has consistently lied in campaign ads:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/03/11/update-julia-boonstras-claim-her-obamacare-plan-is-unaffordable-gets-downgraded-to-three-pinocchios/
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"On March 10, however, the Detroit News reported that Boonstra admitted that she had Premier Gold plan. That has an out-of-pocket cap of $5,100 a year.

In other words, her old plan cost $13,200 a year—before co-pays and other out-of-pocket expenses. The new plan is $11,952—including co-pays and out of pocket expenses. That’s a savings of more than $1,200 a year."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/03/26/big-claims-few-details-in-anti-obamacare-ad-alleging-soaring-costs/

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"The Fact Checker reviewed a series of Facebook posts that Wendt wrote about her experience earlier in March, including some of the financial choices involved. A key issue is that the family qualified for Medicaid, but she was opposed for philosophical issues; she did not think a family making as much money as hers should qualify for Medicaid. She also thought the level of care was poor. So the family opted for a more expensive plan."

This isn't a game of "gotcha" or a partisan battle where both sides are equally at fault. AFP is systematically lying.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AFP leader: $94K is 133% of poverty line on: March 31, 2014, 01:46:28 pm
While $94K is not below 133% of the poverty line it is below 400% of the poverty line for a family of four, and the 400% level is the point at which the subsidies phase out.  So yeah, a family of four making $94K is eligible for Obamacare subsidies.  I'm not going to spend 15 minutes listening to the whole clip to find the exact phrase used.  So yeah, if she said they qualified for Medicaid, she was wrong, but if she said they qualified for subsides, she was right, albeit not much of one at that level. (400% FPL for a family of four is $95,400.)

dam u really got us libtards with this sick burn

Did you even bother reading the article? This little spat exemplifies the GOP's willingness to blatantly lie to the public about the ACA and avoiding this obvious fact is tantamount to offering excuses for Republicans.
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Forum IRC Channel on: March 30, 2014, 11:25:42 pm
you guys need to chill the f out with booting people...
8  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Nick Cannon under fire for "Whiteface" in new album's cover on: March 29, 2014, 05:42:37 am
Or do you believe black people remain impoverished because of white racism as opposed to say... self-defeating social norms?

Yes?

Obviously wealth presents a greater barrier than race, gender, orientation, whatever. But acting like those other barriers and inequalities don't exist alongside wealth inequalities is ignoring actual real societal problems.

Yes, but it's far smaller. If you do think black poverty is the result of white racism then clearly you're discounting the effect of social norms and poverty.

It's interesting, that perhaps most of the people who endorse this view seem to be those suffering with "white guilt", that is, those most removed from it (and black experiences). It is rampant at my university. Conversely, from my experience, those who least agree with such sentiments are the minorities who've achieved success... because they know that their mere experience discounts it.

From my experience, those who are most concerned about the deleterious effects of racism are relatively affluent and well-educated people of color. There is definitely such a thing as a Black elite in cosmopolitan places like New York, DC, LA, Atlanta and Chicago but these are exceptions to the rule and the members of the Black elite know this.

Have you ever been outside of the New York metro area? You'll quickly realize that race is a tremendous barrier that will prevent people from treating you with respect and dignity that is a precondition for "success" - whatever that means. Regardless of what you'd like to believe about the concept of the American meritocracy, it's myth.

edit: I tried to post this long thing about why it's fallacious to act as if poverty and social norms can be separated from "White racism" but it didn't go through. I think you're knowledgeable to understand this argument without me saying anything.
9  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is Obamacare worse than the status quo? on: March 27, 2014, 05:00:32 pm
There is no such choice between a single payer system and the status quo. If you paint the American healthcare debate in such terms, you are writing fiction.

Obamacare is not worse than the status quo. The framework created by the ACA is a pretty novel one that allows for the continued existence of private health insurance markets while still providing universal coverage. Although this is not the ideal, it's one that is possible and will dramatically improve the lives of millions.
10  General Politics / Book Reviews and Discussion / Re: What Book Are You Currently Reading? on: March 27, 2014, 04:57:48 pm




11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Poll Shows ACA Support Growing, People Tired of Debate on: March 27, 2014, 04:55:42 pm
Implying Republicans have an alternative.

Refundable tax credits are too complicated for liberal brains?

No but apparently elementary economic concepts are too complex for Republicans like you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_selection
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather live in Arkansas or Idaho? on: March 26, 2014, 11:50:58 pm
I'd rather live in Boise than Arkansas
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of This Image on: March 24, 2014, 05:57:14 pm
Is this supposed to be funny?

It depends if you think the absurdity of regurgitating 17th century political philosophy in order to answer specific public policy questions is hilarious or disturbing.

I was also hoping this might prompt a discussion about the idea of rights but that's probably asking too much.
14  General Politics / Individual Politics / Opinion of This Image on: March 24, 2014, 05:41:53 pm


15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is the Atlas a worthwhile place to discuss American elections? on: March 18, 2014, 03:38:59 pm
I feel like the current election boards have always been the worst part of the site, well except for Update where I'm afraid we part ways rather severely. 

(I came for redistricting and stuck around for the philosophy/social science/etc.)

Back in 2008, the election boards were the hub of the forum and seemed excellent to me. Then again, it was 2008...

What makes the Atlas stand out is its excellent analysis of why people vote for candidates. There are plenty of forums and blogs with detailed reports that reveal how various demographic groups voted but I've only been able to find good explanations behind the reasons why various ethnic groups vote for certain parties and candidates here.
16  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Modern Society on: March 18, 2014, 02:25:53 pm
Brunch is a great concept because it allows me to sleep in and eat breakfast excessively late without being judged. 
17  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Modern Society on: March 18, 2014, 02:24:11 pm
I just what I want whenever I want. #post-sturcturalism
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is the Atlas a worthwhile place to discuss American elections? on: March 18, 2014, 02:20:43 pm
(I came for the electoral discussion, I stuck around for the Update)
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Is the Atlas a worthwhile place to discuss American elections? on: March 18, 2014, 02:19:57 pm
The level of discussion on the various election boards has gone downhill at an alarming pace. This is strange because the Atlas is increasingly becoming a good place to discuss philosophy or history or social science or international affairs but the coverage of American elections is really embarrassing at this point.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Ryan to meet with Congressional Black Caucus after botched poverty remarks on: March 17, 2014, 01:07:20 am
Was Hillary a racist when she discussed "inner city Chicago" in 08 SC debate with Obama/Rezko?

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What would he have said if he actually meant "inner city"?

Maybe.......the inner city?

Ryan told the truth and we just can't have that.

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Add racist "law and order " policies to this that imprison roughly a quarter of Black men at some point and you have the perfect storm of conditions that lead to employment problems.

So...you're seriously suggesting black people are incarcerated for being black? Why do Detroit and Oakland and St Louis have high crime rates? Is that all racist too, or is it a culture problem? I know facts are stubborn.

Yes, that is what I am suggesting. This isn't controversial.





African-Americans are arrested at six time the rate of Whites. If you think this is due to socio-economic factors which affect behavior, I have a bridge to sell you.

Hillary Clinton was certainly making a racist claim in that debate. There's a reason why her campaign was widely derided as using racist dogwhistles to appeal to white working class voters after the 08 SC debate and it certainly wasn't due to whatever inane conservative trope you believe about the media...

Those graphs don't show that they are arrested for being black, they show that blacks commit these crimes at a higher rate than whites.

If you think that white people smoke 1/7th as much weed as blacks, you're an idiot.
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: ID-2:Democrat Richard Stallings Mounts Congressional Bid on: March 17, 2014, 12:34:04 am


Stallings has a shot at breaking 40 percent if Simpson loses the primary (unlikely).
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gun Control Advocates Turn to Wall Street for Help on: March 17, 2014, 12:29:42 am
The idea that the American working class as white, male and gun-toting is a figment of many popular re-imaginations of history that emerged out of the hard hat revolts of the 60s. This is severely problematic on multiple accounts: it leads liberals to deride blue collar whites as being a bunch of troglodytes with no ideological nuance and also leads them to believe that pro-proleterian public policy means being folksy and populist while ignoring the Latinos and Asian immigrants who now form the core of the working class.

Blue collar whites are not averse to gun control. They're averse to attacks on their way of life and liberals certainly attack them on a regular basis. The working class aren't a bunch of chew-spitting hicks who all own guns, many of them have no interest in guns. Both liberals and true leftists need to check themselves when discussing these issues. Your socioeconomic status really shows in these conversations...
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ontario municipal elections, 2014 - Master thread on: March 17, 2014, 12:22:39 am
But I would be one of those people to suggest that de-amalgamation would be a solution to this mess.

Yes, but that's because you have no interest in urban politics in a non-electoral sense.

Hatman isn't wrong to be wary of amalgamation. It leads to inequitable and disastrous zoning policy as often as it leads to improvement. Cohesion is no remedy for the ailments of urban mismanagement.

Also, I get the sense that posters here are drastically misinterpreting the polling information. There is a huge pool of Chow-Ford swing voters: low income, visible minorities really like Ford but should also be prone to many of Chow's appeals. The problem is that Chow's ability to make more populist leftist appeals should be undercut by her need to edge out Tory.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Ryan to meet with Congressional Black Caucus after botched poverty remarks on: March 17, 2014, 12:15:34 am
Was Hillary a racist when she discussed "inner city Chicago" in 08 SC debate with Obama/Rezko?

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What would he have said if he actually meant "inner city"?

Maybe.......the inner city?

Ryan told the truth and we just can't have that.

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Add racist "law and order " policies to this that imprison roughly a quarter of Black men at some point and you have the perfect storm of conditions that lead to employment problems.

So...you're seriously suggesting black people are incarcerated for being black? Why do Detroit and Oakland and St Louis have high crime rates? Is that all racist too, or is it a culture problem? I know facts are stubborn.

Yes, that is what I am suggesting. This isn't controversial.





African-Americans are arrested at six time the rate of Whites. If you think this is due to socio-economic factors which affect behavior, I have a bridge to sell you.

Hillary Clinton was certainly making a racist claim in that debate. There's a reason why her campaign was widely derided as using racist dogwhistles to appeal to white working class voters after the 08 SC debate and it certainly wasn't due to whatever inane conservative trope you believe about the media...
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: I work at Walmart AMA on: March 16, 2014, 06:08:57 pm
Is Walmart 420 friendly?
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