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101  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump: Elizabeth Warren as my opponent “would be a dream come true” on: March 19, 2017, 07:04:42 pm
It won't take a white man to defeat Trump, so let's just stop pushing the notion that gender or race should factor in who is the nominee. Warren could easily defeat Trump, because she is progressive, but still pragmatic enough to win over swing voters. Besides that, Trump won by about 70k votes across three states to secure 270 and lost the popular vote by millions, so he's far from being in a position of being that secure against credible candidates.
102  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump's new budget will cut meals on wheels on: March 18, 2017, 10:22:41 pm
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/meals-on-wheels-trump-budget-cut-impact-on-voters/

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It works for 56-year-old Linda Preast, who signed up for the program two years ago after a stroke left her in a wheelchair. Meals on Wheels delivers to her every weekday. Like most residents in Jones County, she voted for Donald Trump.

“Are you surprised?” Miller asked.

“Yeah,” Preast said. “Because he was told- I was under the influence that he was going to help us.”

“What would you say to him to convince him not to cut this program?” Miller asked.

“What if it was your momma?” Preast said.


Do you think the reporter bothered to tell Linda Preast that Meals on Wheels isn't a government program?

No one said it was a government program, but it receives 35% of it's funding from the federal government. That funding being cut would mean lots of seniors would lose meals.
103  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump's new budget will cut meals on wheels on: March 18, 2017, 06:45:12 pm
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/meals-on-wheels-trump-budget-cut-impact-on-voters/

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It works for 56-year-old Linda Preast, who signed up for the program two years ago after a stroke left her in a wheelchair. Meals on Wheels delivers to her every weekday. Like most residents in Jones County, she voted for Donald Trump.

“Are you surprised?” Miller asked.

“Yeah,” Preast said. “Because he was told- I was under the influence that he was going to help us.”

“What would you say to him to convince him not to cut this program?” Miller asked.

“What if it was your momma?” Preast said.
104  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Clinton: 'I'm ready to come out of the woods' on: March 18, 2017, 05:52:56 pm
Can't she just die already? We're sick of her living! /sarc

Seriously, she is going to remain a part of the political spectrum somehow. She is not going to run for any office, but I think some people want her to just so they can complain.
105  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Donald Trump refuses to shake Angela Merkel's hand, makes mean faces at her on: March 18, 2017, 01:33:34 pm
Everytime liberals get cocky, I remember that the map of the U.S. is all red with a couple irrelevant "diverse" blue stains here and there.

Most of the population lives in dense areas and those dense areas support rural counties that have very few resources to survive.
106  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Chelsea Clinton joins the board of Expedia on: March 17, 2017, 10:40:03 pm
Why is this even a thread?

It does have implications for whether or not she's going to run for office, and there have been rumors about that. Seems relevant enough for me.

Seems like an obsession with the Clintons.
107  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Chelsea Clinton joins the board of Expedia on: March 17, 2017, 10:07:29 pm
Why is this even a thread?
108  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: District Court, Splitting 2-1, Finds Texas Congressional Districts Violate VRA on: March 17, 2017, 07:15:21 pm
The court isn't going to order a map that doesn't comply with the VRA and not even the legislature would bother drawing that one, but even if they did draw a singular district in Hidalgo County, there would still be two more border districts. Besides, if you apply the compactness principle, it would have to apply to the rest of the state and you couldn't justify Travis County being in 5 different districts.
109  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Tomi Lahren Comes Out as Pro-Abortion on: March 17, 2017, 04:51:24 pm
This won't go over well with conservative viewers.
110  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2018 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: WI-Magellan (R): Baldwin +13 over Duffy, +14 over Clarke on: March 17, 2017, 04:42:51 pm
Baldwin will more likely than not benefit from a midterm environment and possibly from a weak opponent like Clarke.
111  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: GOP Govs (AR, MI, NV, & OH) send letter to McConnel opposing Trumpcare on: March 17, 2017, 01:44:25 pm
2 out of 3 have nothing to lose, because they are termed out. The bill would be a disaster for somewhere like Arkansas, so Hutchinson doesn't have much to lose either by opposing it.
112  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Donald Trump refuses to shake Angela Merkel's hand, makes mean faces at her on: March 17, 2017, 01:33:36 pm
Why is he still President? He should have been committed for insanity by now. But seriously, I'm guessing she probably doesn't even care about this, because it is what to expect from him.
113  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump's new budget will cut meals on wheels on: March 16, 2017, 08:32:53 pm
CDBGs actually go to housing and community programs where I live, because the council makes sure that they are used for only that.

Meals on Wheels is for seniors who are stuck in their homes, it's a good program and should continue. The cost of it is so not the reason why there is a deficit.
114  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: AmeriCorps, Senior Corps, & entire National Service org might be eliminated! on: March 16, 2017, 07:30:54 pm
Why don't they just shut the whole government down and let Trump's companies run everything?
115  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump adm. cuts....community poverty funds, Appalachian economy grants, etc etc on: March 16, 2017, 04:46:12 pm
West Virginia is one state that gets back more money than it puts into the federal government. It has had more deaths than birth within a span of a few years and has almost no one moving in. Put all that together and it's hard to believe that a large chunk of Republican voters aren't getting assistance.

In Kentucky, the highest welfare rate counties are over 80% Republican. In contrast, counties that swung Democratic were mostly in the top ten of per capita income.
116  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump adm. cuts....community poverty funds, Appalachian economy grants, etc etc on: March 16, 2017, 10:26:39 am
Seems pretty ungrateful to eliminate a commission for the area that supported you most.
117  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump slams Hillary and brings back "lock her up" chants at Nashville rally on: March 15, 2017, 10:54:48 pm

"Understanding reality" is how you get stuck with only $12 an hour when $15 is logically where it should go. "Understanding reality" is how you get stuck with someone who'll kowtow to disinterested relics like Joe Lieberman rather than nominate someone who'll hold 'em accountable. "Understanding reality" is how you look at demographics, favor them staying stable to your side, and do next to nothing to keep them on your side.

The reality is, you make it the reality before someone else makes their own and drowns everyone else out by gaslighting.

Try again.

I'm talking about the reality of single payer actually happening. The odds are incredibly low. Reality is understanding that no candidate is going to support 100% of everything you want, but is still the best bet for governing.. We might have seen a minimum wage increase under Hillary, but it's doubtful that will occur under Trump.
118  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump slams Hillary and brings back "lock her up" chants at Nashville rally on: March 15, 2017, 10:44:47 pm

I never supported Trump. You do realize that millions of people didn't vote for either Hillary or Trump, right?

I don't buy that, but it's your business.
119  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump slams Hillary and brings back "lock her up" chants at Nashville rally on: March 15, 2017, 10:41:05 pm
Hey, Trump. Hillary said that single payer will never ever happen. Why don't you stick it to her and make it happen?

It isn't ever going to happen and that is reality. If you want single payer, move to a country that has it.

I'm not voting for anyone who isn't at least open to trying.

How do you propose passing anything resembling single payer as long as Democrats have fewer than 60 members in the senate?  Do you want to nuke the filibuster for legislation?

Did Hillary say that there will never ever be 60 Democrats in the Senate?


Hey, Trump. Hillary said that single payer will never ever happen. Why don't you stick it to her and make it happen?

It isn't ever going to happen and that is reality. If you want single payer, move to a country that has it.

I'm not voting for anyone who isn't at least open to trying.

And that is why people like you should stay out of the political process. You have no place in it if you don't understand reality.

Talking down to progressives worked so well for you neoliberals last year, so keep it up!

You aren't a progressive. You are one of the folks that supported Trump because of his rhetoric. You aren't fooling anyone.
120  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump slams Hillary and brings back "lock her up" chants at Nashville rally on: March 15, 2017, 10:37:07 pm
Hey, Trump. Hillary said that single payer will never ever happen. Why don't you stick it to her and make it happen?

It isn't ever going to happen and that is reality. If you want single payer, move to a country that has it.

I'm not voting for anyone who isn't at least open to trying.

And that is why people like you should stay out of the political process. You have no place in it if you don't understand reality.
121  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If Trump loses in 2020, will he attend his successor's inauguration? on: March 15, 2017, 10:35:28 pm
The better question is if he would concede defeat.
122  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump slams Hillary and brings back "lock her up" chants at Nashville rally on: March 15, 2017, 10:31:56 pm
Hey, Trump. Hillary said that single payer will never ever happen. Why don't you stick it to her and make it happen?

It isn't ever going to happen and that is reality. If you want single payer, move to a country that has it.
123  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Federal Judge HALTS new travel ban nationwide on: March 15, 2017, 06:16:29 pm
Time to move on, folks. Let's focus on jobs, economy and quality of life.

It's Trump who is focusing on all this, so you should be telling him and his party to move on.
124  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Oklahoma police investigating why State Senator was in hotel with teenage boy on: March 15, 2017, 05:50:55 pm
It's Oklahoma, so it's not surprising that they would have a law about prostitution within so many feet of the church. The real horrifying thing is that an adult man was in a hotel room with a teenager.
125  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Fear of diversity, not economic anxiety, caused Obama voters to switch to Trump on: March 14, 2017, 11:20:11 pm
The fear is that people who do not look like them are taking their jobs. Jesse Helms' "Hands" played on this. Trump spoke directly to this sort of fear.

     They wouldn't be any less afraid if the jobs were being outsourced to France. It is a matter of pure happenstance that the jobs are being outsourced to places like Mexico where the people "do not look like them".

In the context of Trump's campaign, he used people who didn't look like his target constituency as the villain. If you have an issue with the word look, then one could say people who aren't likethem, but it all boils down to the same equation.
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