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26  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Former FNC host sues; claims sexual harassment by Ailes, O'Reilly, Scott Brown on: August 23, 2016, 03:39:00 pm
Isn't sexual harassment a politically correct myth? Conservatives always have to learn the hard way that unfairness actually does exist and isn't something just made up by liberals. Karma and reality hurts.

Uh, Conservatives were the ones sexually harassing women here. I think it makes perfect sense that they'd be denialists.

My point is that she worked on a network pushing conservative views. Perhaps she's not a conservative and was just doing a job, but if she is then this is a realization for her that unfairness really does exist and isn't just made up.
27  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Mike Rowe has some very passionate feelings about "uneducated" trump voters on: August 23, 2016, 12:26:51 pm
Those people spiral into feudalism on their own. No one is at fault for pointing out what is not really a secret. Even Trump knows it, which is why he says most of the things that he does. If you are all right with voting for someone who doesn't understand why the country can't launch nuclear weapons at random, it says a lot about your education or lack there of.
28  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: FL-St. Leo: Clinton leads by 14! on: August 23, 2016, 12:12:06 pm
Is Rep. Alex Sink still winning against Jolly by 10 ?

Or Gov. Charlie Crist against Scott by 5 ?

St. Leo is a notorious junk pollster.

You can't compare off-year elections that didn't feature Trump to this presidential election.
29  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: FL-St. Leo: Clinton leads by 14! on: August 23, 2016, 11:48:53 am
I think people will be quite surprised on election day. The scope of how toxic Trump is has been vastly underrated.
30  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Former FNC host sues; claims sexual harassment by Ailes, O'Reilly, Scott Brown on: August 23, 2016, 11:46:19 am
Isn't sexual harassment a politically correct myth? Conservatives always have to learn the hard way that unfairness actually does exist and isn't something just made up by liberals. Karma and reality hurts.
31  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: Utah-PPP: Trump +15 on: August 23, 2016, 11:41:18 am
Well, so much for that. The flippable Romney states are North Carolina, Arizona, and maybe Georgia.

South Carolina?
South Carolina? How? Whites are outgrowing Blacks in that state, and it is far less educated and urbanized. It's by FAR the best fit for Trump of all the states on the Atlantic.

Then why do polls show it close and why do demographics back this up? If Hillary's lead grows to 8 or 9 by election day, South Carolina will be flipping.

It's got a lot of white educated voters, plus a sizable black electorate, so I agree that it has the potential to flip. If Clinton is going to put an office in a red state, South Carolina should come in ahead of Utah.
32  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Coulter: If Clinton wins, illegal immigrant amnesty means permanent D majority on: August 23, 2016, 11:34:12 am
That sounds terrific.
33  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump to supporters: 'go out and watch' on election day on: August 22, 2016, 11:11:56 pm
I say that everyone should keep their county clerk or elections supervisor in their contact list. Any Trump supporter "watching" voters should be reported to the authorities and escorted away from the polling place.
34  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will Trump do worse than McCain with black voters? on: August 22, 2016, 11:09:36 pm
Yes.
35  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: WaPo: FBI uncovered tens of thousands more emails that Clinton didn't disclose on: August 22, 2016, 09:37:26 pm
The sort of people basing their vote on email server maintenance weren't going to be voting for Clinton in the first place.
Nobody is basing their vote on the scandal itself as much as what it says about her character, especially as she continuously makes attacks on Trump. I've never heard the expression "two evils" used so often and so seriously in any election in my lifetime. People might think Trump is a joke, but they certainly don' t view Hillary as this shining beacon of clean politics and honor.
I don't know a single person that would have voted for Clinton before that is refusing to vote for her now because of emails. Also, people don't view Clinton as a "shining beacon" because she has faced 3 decades of polarizing personal attacks from the GOP. A sustained campaign like that is going to impact public opinion, especially during election cycle.
So when exactly did the vast right wing conspiracy start? Around the time that the Muslim Brotherhood and the KGB anointed a young Kenyan born child to be the President of the United States who would implement socialism through minor regulations of the insurance industry?

The lack of an indictment makes the emails a non-issue. You can't indict people on the internet with no law degree or credentials, that is left up to the authorities and the authorities didn't find anything to indict on.
Well yeah, they couldn't indict Hillary on obstruction of justice because they didn't know she obstructed justice. Why is a court ordering the release of more documents today if these newly found and obviously withheld work related emails not a serious sign that something is at the very least suspicious?

The FBI saw these emails already, they are not new to the FBI. What is being ordered to be released is at the request of an extremely right-wing political organization called Judicial Watch wanting the records.
This from the arch-conservative Washington Post, which totally didn't go to war with Richard Nixon or anything like that ever....

Quote from: Washington Post
The FBIís year-long investigation of Hillary Clintonís private email server uncovered 14,900 emails and documents from her time as secretary of state that had not been disclosed by her attorneys, and a federal judge on Monday pressed the State Department to begin releasing emails sooner than mid-October as it planned.

Uncovered. These are "previously undisclosed" documents according to the Hill. You are no Goebbels, Dr. Scholl, but I'll give you credit for at least matching them in enthusiasm. At least you do a better job than Baghdad Bob!

I would edit the Nazi reference if I were you. You certainly don't want another deleted post. I'm no the Nazi here. Just saying.

With that said, you are not getting it. The FBI saw these emails as part of the investigation which concluded with no charges. You are under the impression that there is an indictment pending, which is wrong.

I am not waiting for an indictment, that'd imply that I have faith in the system. I do suspect that the damage of the allegations are strong enough to weaken her. These emails were "uncovered" by the FBI according to every source I've read. These emails were not handed over by Clinton originally. They were hidden. Were they intentionally hidden? We will not know, as there was not enough evidence of a cover-up to show criminal intent. But Comey did, in that press conference, indict Clinton not criminally but rather rhetorically-that is, to say, that he clearly and adequately displayed that Clinton panics under pressure, has little regard for established rules and protocol, etc.

Then there is of course the matter of the Clinton Foundation, which very well may be under FBI investigation as we speak. If the FBI wasn't investigating the Clinton Foundation, would they not come out and confirm it? Or is Comey part of the vast right-wing conspiracy too?

Also, you know who liked to threaten people's right to speech? Nazis.

I didn't threaten your right to free speech, I just reminded you of the board rules against personal attacks like calling people Nazis. I don't get why people claim free speech on a message board. Message boards are not the government, they are private.
36  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Colin Powell not taking hillary's statements lightly- ups his attack on: August 22, 2016, 06:03:12 pm
Number one, this is the man who lied to the United Nations with fake diagrams, yet was never indicted for it, so he needs to shut his mouth about everything but the weather. Number two, the fact that something that resulted in no indictment is still be discussed is insane.
Number one, this is about the woman who lied to the families of dead soldiers and used her own server to endanger classified security, yet was never indicted for it, so she needs to shut her mouth about everything but the weather. Number two, the fact that she wasn't indicted is still insane.

How unfortunate for you. Have a cookie, you'll feel better.
37  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: WaPo: FBI uncovered tens of thousands more emails that Clinton didn't disclose on: August 22, 2016, 05:41:08 pm
The lack of an indictment makes the emails a non-issue. You can't indict people on the internet with no law degree or credentials, that is left up to the authorities and the authorities didn't find anything to indict on.
Well yeah, they couldn't indict Hillary on obstruction of justice because they didn't know she obstructed justice. Why is a court ordering the release of more documents today if these newly found and obviously withheld work related emails not a serious sign that something is at the very least suspicious?

The FBI saw these emails already, they are not new to the FBI. What is being ordered to be released is at the request of an extremely right-wing political organization called Judicial Watch wanting the records.
This from the arch-conservative Washington Post, which totally didn't go to war with Richard Nixon or anything like that ever....

Quote from: Washington Post
The FBIís year-long investigation of Hillary Clintonís private email server uncovered 14,900 emails and documents from her time as secretary of state that had not been disclosed by her attorneys, and a federal judge on Monday pressed the State Department to begin releasing emails sooner than mid-October as it planned.

Uncovered. These are "previously undisclosed" documents according to the Hill. You are no Goebbels, Dr. Scholl, but I'll give you credit for at least matching them in enthusiasm. At least you do a better job than Baghdad Bob!

I would edit the Nazi reference if I were you. You certainly don't want another deleted post. I'm no the Nazi here. Just saying.

With that said, you are not getting it. The FBI saw these emails as part of the investigation which concluded with no charges. You are under the impression that there is an indictment pending, which is wrong.

38  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: WaPo: FBI uncovered tens of thousands more emails that Clinton didn't disclose on: August 22, 2016, 05:31:47 pm
The lack of an indictment makes the emails a non-issue. You can't indict people on the internet with no law degree or credentials, that is left up to the authorities and the authorities didn't find anything to indict on.
Well yeah, they couldn't indict Hillary on obstruction of justice because they didn't know she obstructed justice. Why is a court ordering the release of more documents today if these newly found and obviously withheld work related emails not a serious sign that something is at the very least suspicious?

The FBI saw these emails already, they are not new to the FBI. What is being ordered to be released is at the request of an extremely right-wing political organization called Judicial Watch wanting the records.
39  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: WaPo: FBI uncovered tens of thousands more emails that Clinton didn't disclose on: August 22, 2016, 05:24:27 pm
The lack of an indictment makes the emails a non-issue. You can't indict people on the internet with no law degree or credentials, that is left up to the authorities and the authorities didn't find anything to indict on.
40  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How worried are you about Trump turning it around? on: August 22, 2016, 04:38:38 pm
Irreversible damage has been done, so there isn't much that Trump can do to turn it around. For him to turn it around he'd have to prove that he was kidnapped decades ago by the Clinton campaign and replaced by a paid double that said insane things to make him look bad.
41  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who will win Gwinnett and Cobb Counties? on: August 22, 2016, 03:45:27 pm
Clinton will win both of them if she wins the state (which is possible). Trump is far too polarizing for the educated whites in those counties.
42  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: GOP Winning Registration Race in Key Swing States on: August 22, 2016, 02:25:59 pm
These are not new Republican voters, though and most of them are in areas that are losing population, therefore not having a lot of influence on elections moving forward.
43  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Colin Powell not taking hillary's statements lightly- ups his attack on: August 22, 2016, 10:35:04 am
Number one, this is the man who lied to the United Nations with fake diagrams, yet was never indicted for it, so he needs to shut his mouth about everything but the weather. Number two, the fact that something that resulted in no indictment is still be discussed is insane.

Regardless. Hillz still implicated him into her own troublings. She has to woman up and take the heat for this and the foundation. Self-inflicted wounds.

Two words: No indictment. That's all she has to say at this point. Troublings isn't a word, by the way.

"No indictment." doesn't play well. She should just take responsibility(at this point the public already sees her as guilty) then transition to the issues. She's at her best when focused on the substance of this election.

No indictment means that there is no guilt. The FBI found no crimes committed. It's the media and other sources that keep talking about it, not Hillary.
44  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Colin Powell not taking hillary's statements lightly- ups his attack on: August 22, 2016, 10:28:02 am
Number one, this is the man who lied to the United Nations with fake diagrams, yet was never indicted for it, so he needs to shut his mouth about everything but the weather. Number two, the fact that something that resulted in no indictment is still be discussed is insane.

Regardless. Hillz still implicated him into her own troublings. She has to woman up and take the heat for this and the foundation. Self-inflicted wounds.

Two words: No indictment. That's all she has to say at this point. Troublings isn't a word, by the way.
45  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Colin Powell not taking hillary's statements lightly- ups his attack on: August 22, 2016, 10:19:33 am
Number one, this is the man who lied to the United Nations with fake diagrams, yet was never indicted for it, so he needs to shut his mouth about everything but the weather. Number two, the fact that something that resulted in no indictment is still be discussed is insane.
46  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What would it take to end Trumps chances? on: August 22, 2016, 10:03:33 am
He has chances were over when he entered the race. He never had a chance.
47  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will Trump say a racial slur in public by the end of this? on: August 21, 2016, 10:05:05 am
Who knows? I do think it's a possibility in his concession speech.
48  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why are Washington and Oregon so polarized? on: August 20, 2016, 10:27:41 pm
The eastern side of the Cascades in much like Idaho, so it's more a type of Western conservatism rather than a Southern type. It's really a similar sort of divide that you see in a lot of states, which is that urban areas are more liberal and the outer rural areas are conservative. It also has a lot to do with how the states are developed; The western side is a lot more favorable to development.
49  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Milo Yiannoplous deposits $100K for charity directly in his personal account on: August 20, 2016, 05:20:36 pm
This is why you never donate to a non-reputable charity.
50  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: BREAKING: Leaked internal PPP poll finds Clinton down big on: August 20, 2016, 05:05:36 pm
I'm surprised that Trump didn't tweet this out as a real poll. He's dumb enough to.
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