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26  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Does Trump Know Who Frederick Douglass is? on: February 01, 2017, 11:32:02 pm
No one can ever say that Trump is intelligent. Maybe it's a lot to ask, but the President of the United States should be able to put out a statement that makes sense and doesn't ramble on into being about his own paranoia.
27  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Massive Violent Anti-Milo Protests at UC Berkeley on: February 01, 2017, 10:31:40 pm
Perhaps a more conservative venue would have been more welcoming.
28  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump drafting extreme "religious liberty" executive order on: February 01, 2017, 10:28:01 pm
Also, so much for the myth that Trump is pro-LGBT.

He just wants a peace treaty to end the culture war.

Why sign a peace treaty with an ideology that will be irrelevant in our lifetime? Gay rights polls at around 70% support, and climbing every day.

That's why these laws are necessary, to protect freedom of conscience.

That works a lot of different ways. Someone could fire an employee for supporting Trump on the basis of it being offensive to their religion. Someone wearing a Trump t-shirt could be denied service in a restaurant based on religion. It's a double edged sword.

I highly doubt that it will hold up in court, however.

Seems like it would under a religious liberty law. If someone's religious beliefs go against everything that Trump stands for, then they could argue that they should have the right to fire an employee who supports him. With the travel ban, it probably would be fairly easy for a Muslim to fire a Trump supporter and get away with it under a law like this.
29  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump drafting extreme "religious liberty" executive order on: February 01, 2017, 10:23:30 pm
Also, so much for the myth that Trump is pro-LGBT.

He just wants a peace treaty to end the culture war.

Why sign a peace treaty with an ideology that will be irrelevant in our lifetime? Gay rights polls at around 70% support, and climbing every day.

That's why these laws are necessary, to protect freedom of conscience.

That works a lot of different ways. Someone could fire an employee for supporting Trump on the basis of it being offensive to their religion. Someone wearing a Trump t-shirt could be denied service in a restaurant based on religion. It's a double edged sword.
30  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump drafting extreme "religious liberty" executive order on: February 01, 2017, 10:17:43 pm
I never bought that was all that pro-gay, at least not enough to break with conservative standards.
31  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pelosi: "We're capitalists, and that's just the way it is." on: February 01, 2017, 06:05:00 pm
I think there is a lot of hate for Pelosi no matter what she says. She's called too far left, but is also called not far enough to the left. Which is it? Because it can't be both.

The economy here is a mixed one, because capitalism isn't totally unregulated (although it seems as if it is sometimes). The difference between the parties is regulated vs. unregulated capitalism. Like it or not, the country is capitalist and most people on both sides of the spectrum support that.
32  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump appointing BOTH Hardiman and Gorsuch, increasing SCOTUS to 10? on: January 31, 2017, 05:21:59 pm
The Senate would not approve such a thing. Expanding the Supreme Court is not going to happen.
33  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump considering executive order to deport legal immigrants who are on welfare on: January 31, 2017, 12:51:05 am
How is this even fair?
34  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump FIRES acting AG for not defending Muslim Ban on: January 30, 2017, 10:13:01 pm
I think the point that is being missed here is that this sort of unstable governing cannot produce good results in the long run.
35  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump FIRES acting AG for not defending Muslim Ban on: January 30, 2017, 10:06:41 pm
We should just be glad he didn't put a hit out on her.
36  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: If Donald Trump's personality was transplanted into fictional characters... on: January 25, 2017, 09:35:23 pm
No one would enjoy a show with a character like that. TV is escapism, not horrible realities that cannot be avoided.
37  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump orders EPA to delete all climate change information from its website on: January 25, 2017, 09:33:25 pm
He's a menace.
38  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: FDA thinks DNA is a drug (or the FDA sucks reason #452) on: January 25, 2017, 07:53:54 pm
It must be miserable to be easily outraged. What a sad existence.
39  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump calls for "major investigation" into "voter fraud" on: January 25, 2017, 07:31:42 pm
The only person prosecuted in the county I live in was a white, Republican man who sent in his dead father's ballot. He was caught very easily.

And then there were those two white women arrested for voting for Trump twice. The fraud leans more toward the GOP than Democrats, but is still quite minimal.
40  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Fake News site "The Atlantic" caught in a blatant lie. on: January 25, 2017, 04:50:24 pm
Let it go.
41  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: How long before Trump is impeached/thrown out of office? on: January 25, 2017, 04:05:48 pm
To get a second term he actually has to be elected. He can't sign an executive order just giving himself one. Let's remember that.

An incumbent unconcerned with legality would need to be overwhelmingly unpopular not to be re-elected.  As long as his popularity does not drop to below 25 or 20%, even if the rest hate him, he will be in office in February 2021.

Remember: US is a flawed democracy now. Hopefully, it will not go further down in ratings before 2020.

Time will tell, but I think Democrats have a good chance at beating Trump now that he can't run as an outsider anymore.
42  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: How long before Trump is impeached/thrown out of office? on: January 25, 2017, 04:04:12 pm
After he commits a high crime or misdemeanor while in office. And no, having different political views than Obama is not a crime.

That's not exactly what the OP said, but I'm sure you know that. Trump threatening to send the federal authorities into a city to take over and claiming that there was a massive election fraud is exactly the sort of slippery slope that could lead him to real trouble. This isn't about political views, it's about someone who is unstable enough to actually get himself into real legal trouble. Trump is not normal.

Saying a dumb thing is not a high crime either. Again until something happens this is about politics. Hacks judge the other side by their own worst nightmares while excusing the faults of those who agree.

Read thoroughly, sweetheart. My point is that someone as reckless as Trump has the potential to actually get himself into real trouble. He might not do that, but he has the potential to. I'm not going to argue with you, so have a good day.
43  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: How long before Trump is impeached/thrown out of office? on: January 25, 2017, 03:46:33 pm
To get a second term he actually has to be elected. He can't sign an executive order just giving himself one. Let's remember that.
44  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: How long before Trump is impeached/thrown out of office? on: January 25, 2017, 03:27:29 pm
After he commits a high crime or misdemeanor while in office. And no, having different political views than Obama is not a crime.

That's not exactly what the OP said, but I'm sure you know that. Trump threatening to send the federal authorities into a city to take over and claiming that there was a massive election fraud is exactly the sort of slippery slope that could lead him to real trouble. This isn't about political views, it's about someone who is unstable enough to actually get himself into real legal trouble. Trump is not normal.
45  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: How long before Trump is impeached/thrown out of office? on: January 25, 2017, 03:16:56 pm
By the end of the year.
46  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump threatens to "send in feds" to Chicago on: January 25, 2017, 03:13:04 pm
Usurping local control is unacceptable and in Trump's case, it's political. The whole voting fraud thing came up again and then this came up, which I don't think is a coincidence.

What does voter fraud have to do with murder in Chicago?

Also usurping local control is necessary when the local and state government are just as ineffectual and downright criminal as they city they are presiding over.

Since 1972, Chicago has prosecuted 30 alderman, 4 governors and a number of city clerks. The Springfield machine has been in a budget stalemate for close to two years because Mike Madigan refuses to put a bill on the floor because he would lose the $107,000 paycheck he receives every year from the Chicago teacher's union. And he can never be voted out because he gerrymanders his district, and that of his colleagues, to ensure their majority. And none of this can ever by prosecuted because the state Attorney General is his daughter Lisa Madigan.

I am a huge proponent of state and local government but I'm also a concerned Illinois citizen who is fed up with the Springfield circlejerk. If Trump thinks he can help without declaring martial law then I'm all for it.

Trump is not beneath using his authority to keep urban areas from voting under the guise of public safety. It's interesting that he is threatening to send the federal authorities into a city the heavily voted against him after again declaring that there were millions of illegal votes.

It should be "Trump is not above using his..."

Regardless, I think it's a little premature to start accusing Trump of voter suppression for offering federal assistance in lowering crime rates.

It's not premature at all. He's already calling for an investigation into fraud that he has no evidence for.
47  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump threatens to "send in feds" to Chicago on: January 25, 2017, 02:58:16 pm
Usurping local control is unacceptable and in Trump's case, it's political. The whole voting fraud thing came up again and then this came up, which I don't think is a coincidence.

What does voter fraud have to do with murder in Chicago?

Also usurping local control is necessary when the local and state government are just as ineffectual and downright criminal as they city they are presiding over.

Since 1972, Chicago has prosecuted 30 alderman, 4 governors and a number of city clerks. The Springfield machine has been in a budget stalemate for close to two years because Mike Madigan refuses to put a bill on the floor because he would lose the $107,000 paycheck he receives every year from the Chicago teacher's union. And he can never be voted out because he gerrymanders his district, and that of his colleagues, to ensure their majority. And none of this can ever by prosecuted because the state Attorney General is his daughter Lisa Madigan.

I am a huge proponent of state and local government but I'm also a concerned Illinois citizen who is fed up with the Springfield circlejerk. If Trump thinks he can help without declaring martial law then I'm all for it.

Trump is not beneath using his authority to keep urban areas from voting under the guise of public safety. It's interesting that he is threatening to send the federal authorities into a city the heavily voted against him after again declaring that there were millions of illegal votes.
48  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump threatens to "send in feds" to Chicago on: January 25, 2017, 02:38:58 pm
These past five days have been horrific. Are we past the point where we still need to give this schmuck a chance yet? He's already way out of control, and it's clear that Republicans in Congress have no interest in being even a slight check on him.

Seeing as how he is going to be your president for the next for years, it would be beneficial to your "cause" to try and find as much common ground as possible.

Four years, not for.
49  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump threatens to "send in feds" to Chicago on: January 25, 2017, 02:25:51 pm
Usurping local control is unacceptable and in Trump's case, it's political. The whole voting fraud thing came up again and then this came up, which I don't think is a coincidence.
50  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: White House: Trump believes millions voted illegally on: January 24, 2017, 05:44:27 pm
Most people didn't even bother to cast their one vote, so it's absurd to think that millions voted illegally. The couple of cases of voter fraud both involved Trump voters, one of which claimed she voted twice in order to counteract voter fraud for Hillary. With that said, if there actually was that much fraud, Trump would have never won the election.
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