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26  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NYT: California's Far North Deplores 'Tyranny' of the Urban Majority on: July 05, 2017, 10:00:32 am
The how idea that rural areas should get more seats than larger, urban areas makes no sense. The problem is that the Republican legislators that they elect are too conservative to push for more infrastructure for rural areas and are more focused on making statements.
27  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: #CNNblackmail top twitter trend on twitter on: July 05, 2017, 09:50:53 am
Anything that Breitbart says is probably not true.
28  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: MO-SEN 2018: Wagner out on: July 03, 2017, 04:35:06 pm
It's interesting now how Wagner is suddenly some bad candidate that did Republicans a favor by dropping out. That just seems like spin to make the recruitment failure seem better.
29  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: MO-SEN 2018: Wagner likely to enter at some point on: July 03, 2017, 10:24:17 am
Recruitment fail. The coming cycle is not going to be a good one for Republicans.
30  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CA-21: What makes Valadao so strong? on: June 22, 2017, 01:01:00 pm
Apparently, people in the district believe he is Hispanic even though he is Portuguese. The drought and water is also an issue.
31  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: When will Democrats have the honesty to admit Ossoff was a bad candidate ? on: June 22, 2017, 12:20:48 pm
It's a lie that he got no crossover votes. He wouldn't have received 48% off of Democratic votes alone.

Second, there was third party vote in the presidential election. By percentage,  Ossoff picked up 1%.

In comparison to how the previous Democratic nominee ran, Ossodd ran 10% ahead. It's the downballot number that really shows the swing.
32  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Nancy Pelosi is a huge burden for Dems on: June 22, 2017, 12:13:36 pm
Let's not pretend that whoever the Minority Leader is wouldn't be turned into some crazed, psychotic character that doesn't exist by Republicans. The people in mentioned in this thread would be easily demonized.

Lujan and Castro are Hispanic. Enough said.
Tim Ryan represents a decaying town and would be labeled as a liberal who believes in policies that destroyed manufacturing and coal in the Midwest. Plus, he represents Youngstown, which has a high black population.

With that said, none of these special elections would have turned out differently with another Minority Leader. Even if Pelosi is thrown out, Republicans can still talk about her anyway.

Then how come being compared to Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell doesn't hurt Republicans?  Someone like Tim Ryan would be far harder for Republicans to attack.  Pelosi is purely a walking caricature of exactly the type of image that Democrats need to move away from.

Republicans are professionals at attacking, it is what they live for. The Pope could be Democratic leader and they'd still find effective attacks.

Liking Pelosi or not isn't the point. It's the fantasy that Republicans will stop attacking Democrats if Pelosi out the way.
33  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Nancy Pelosi is a huge burden for Dems on: June 22, 2017, 12:04:46 pm
Let's not pretend that whoever the Minority Leader is wouldn't be turned into some crazed, psychotic character that doesn't exist by Republicans. The people in mentioned in this thread would be easily demonized.

Lujan and Castro are Hispanic. Enough said.
Tim Ryan represents a decaying town and would be labeled as a liberal who believes in policies that destroyed manufacturing and coal in the Midwest. Plus, he represents Youngstown, which has a high black population.

With that said, none of these special elections would have turned out differently with another Minority Leader. Even if Pelosi is thrown out, Republicans can still talk about her anyway.

I honestly think anyone in Democratic leadership could perform a sacrifice on live TV and you'd stick by them as long as a "SANDERISTA" doesn't get in charge.

Anyway, lifetime contract, please!  She's a joke.

First off, I think you are confusing me with a Republican who still supports Trump after all his antics. Second, it's not a matter of me liking Pelosi, it's a matter of fact. You know that anyone elected Democratic leader is going to be attacked somehow and turned into a super villain.

And at least she's not a rapist like Hastert.
34  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Nancy Pelosi is a huge burden for Dems on: June 22, 2017, 09:03:40 am
Let's not pretend that whoever the Minority Leader is wouldn't be turned into some crazed, psychotic character that doesn't exist by Republicans. The people in mentioned in this thread would be easily demonized.

Lujan and Castro are Hispanic. Enough said.
Tim Ryan represents a decaying town and would be labeled as a liberal who believes in policies that destroyed manufacturing and coal in the Midwest. Plus, he represents Youngstown, which has a high black population.

With that said, none of these special elections would have turned out differently with another Minority Leader. Even if Pelosi is thrown out, Republicans can still talk about her anyway.
35  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: GOP reopens Hillary Clinton email investigation again on: June 21, 2017, 09:53:15 pm
2.8 million more votes clearly is the reason why this is even being reopened. Even though the popular vote is irrelevant to who actually becomes President, Republicans are still not happy about it and need to punish Hillary Clinton by re-opening a closed investigation. Sore winners are the most bizarre people in the world. You win, yet you stay mad and vengeful.
36  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2018 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: CA-UCB: Newsom still leads in the jungle on: June 21, 2017, 07:48:58 pm
Yeah, these D vs. D races aren't politically healthy.  No state should have one-party rule.  I hope to live to see the day where CA votes for a Republican for President and has a GOP state trifecta, and TX elects a Democrat for President and has a Dem state trifecta.


The voters in California choose to elect Democrats. What is unhealthy in Republicans gerrymandering states to create a House majority.
37  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: NV-SEN: Rosen in on: June 21, 2017, 01:45:59 pm
She'll never win. Heller will win in a landslide, because "reasons". /Republican off

Are you malfunctioning?

Just imitating the Republicans on this board. Polls have shown Heller trailing, but they just don't think he'll lose for some unknown reason.
38  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: NV-SEN: Rosen in on: June 21, 2017, 01:44:51 pm
She'll never win. Heller will win in a landslide, because "reasons". /Republican off
39  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Why Georgia went R on: June 21, 2017, 01:27:20 pm
It's a gerrymandered Republican district. A Republican state Senator said as much.

So why'd you think you'd win it?

Did anyone ever say it was a guaranteed win?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this comes pretty close, no?

Ossoff will win.

Also pretty sure you were dismissing the polls showing Handel ahead as "fake news".

Based on the independent polling, I said this. CSPPolling is indeed fake, no matter what the outcome of this race is. Clearly, there was a shift between the polling that showed Ossoff leading, but even so, it was never a guaranteed win. It's really not that serious, though. I'm not going to die over Ossoff losing the race.
40  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Why Georgia went R on: June 21, 2017, 01:04:30 pm
It's a gerrymandered Republican district. A Republican state Senator said as much.

So why'd you think you'd win it?

Did anyone ever say it was a guaranteed win? It was a worth a try. The point is, Handel was not an underdog who won a heavily Democratic district as Republicans are trying to claim. GA-6 is not a Democratic district.
41  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2017 & Odd Year Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +8 on: June 21, 2017, 12:28:30 pm
Plus 8 is not a toss-up. Republicans think that they are in for a landslide everywhere, but that's not accurate.

Oh boy, do you remember the polling for the 2014 senate race? Gillespie was always far behind.

I don't think Gillespie is doomed, but realistically speaking, this race Leans D.

Because this year will be absolutely like 2014, Gillespie will win in a landslide. Got it.
42  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2017 & Odd Year Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: VA-Quinnipiac: Northam +8 on: June 21, 2017, 12:23:24 pm
Plus 8 is not a toss-up. Republicans think that they are in for a landslide everywhere, but that's not accurate.
43  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Why Georgia went R on: June 21, 2017, 12:19:51 pm
It's a gerrymandered Republican district. A Republican state Senator said as much.
44  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: A pattern emerges... on: June 21, 2017, 12:15:53 pm
For the record, none of those seats were ever considered to be guaranteed gains for Democrats. KS-4 didn't even look competitive under about a week or so until the election. In the long term, swing matters and 2018 won't be pretty for Republicans if history is any indicator. Go eat your bananas and be quiet, monkey.
45  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Did Ossoff even stand a chance? on: June 21, 2017, 12:08:05 pm
He got 48% of the vote, didn't he? He well over performed downballot numbers, it's just that he didn't pull that last two percent. If anything, he probably should have gone harder on Handel. The way Republicans treated Clinton is how Ossoff should have treated Handel.
46  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread on: June 21, 2017, 12:41:02 am
Judging from the result in SC-5, as well as the previous specials where results were closer than expected, I wonder if the money really had much to do with the margin in GA-6. I think there has to be a strategy where enough resources are available, but campaigns are more stealth and can catch Republicans off guard.
47  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread on: June 20, 2017, 09:59:37 pm
Ossoff couldn't even match his percentage in the 1st round. Sad!

There was a poll where half of Republican Iowa caucus goers supported single payer. Why should Democrats take a position to the right of most Americans on healthcare?

Iowa is different from GA-06.

Iowa is alot more open to government subsidize. GA-06 is dominated by well-off white people. Talking about single payer isn't going to win these people over.
Well, Berniecrats aren't the ones who said to put all the resources into winning districts like GA-06.

Democrats didn't.

Alot of Ossoff's cash came from small donations.

Over $6 million came from the DCCC. It's obvious they want to double down on the Hillary strategy of running a bland campaign that avoids the issues and try to win rich people in the sunbelt, while ignoring the midwest.

The most vulnerable Republicans are in the sunbelt, not in the midwest. Why target areas, where Trump is still doing fine approval ratings wise?

This cannot be stressed enough. You play where the odds are better.
48  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread on: June 20, 2017, 09:56:04 pm
Does anyone think that a Sanders clone would have won either of these races? Be honest.

Sanders clones wont win until the leadership of the party is purged.

Half of the Democratic party has no confidence in the party and views the DNC as totally corrupt.

The question wasn't one about the leadership, it was about GA-6. Do you think a Sanders clone would have won GA-6?
49  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread on: June 20, 2017, 09:54:30 pm
The GA-6 result tonight shows that the reluctant trump voter is still willing to give him a shot, even though they are saying they disapprove of him in polling. It also shows that dems need to do some massive lesson learning if they are to win back the house in '18.

2018 house rating: Lean R ---> Strong Lean R

One race does not predict the entire midterm. You have many more favorable seats out there for Democrats.
50  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-06 and SC-05 election day & results thread on: June 20, 2017, 09:51:46 pm
Does anyone think that a Sanders clone would have won either of these races? Be honest.
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