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26  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-6 Special election discussion thread on: May 22, 2017, 07:57:01 pm
If anything, Handel is more like a yes person for Trump than Ossoff is for Pelosi.
27  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: California Democrats choose pharma lobbyist as chair on: May 22, 2017, 04:24:30 pm
As someone who has actually heard Bauman speak and seen up close how people respond to his skills, I can say that he is a good selection to chair the state party because he knows how to organize. These sort of races are decided a lot on qualifications.
28  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Stone and Manafort turn over documents to Senate Intel Committee on: May 22, 2017, 03:29:37 pm
So, it probably looks like I thought.

Manafort/Stone/Page/Sessions stories are just a smoke. More or less. Knowing that Trump wanted 'get along with Russia' Russians probably were more active in "lobbying" and trying to establish connections.


And then we have Flynn. He was at least 'extremely careless' and non-transparent. Likely highly incompetent and have broken some "minor" laws.

So, Trump's mistake was that he chose loyalty over competence in first place, and didn't fire Flynn, when he lied to Pence. It is not a minor mistake (NSC is an extremely important position), but I doubt that there is more than this in Russia-story.

Go away with your hopes and dreams of no impropriety.
29  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: California Democrats choose pharma lobbyist as chair on: May 21, 2017, 08:48:25 pm
Let's understand exactly why this happened. Bauman spoke at the local Democratic club luncheon and was very well received, because he knows how to run an organization and get things done. He is well qualified for the position.

The so-called progressives challenged the vote because there was a lack of photo ID, which is a strangely Republican gripe.
30  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Al Green threatened with lynching for saying Trump should be impeached on: May 21, 2017, 07:42:50 pm
That was quite funny, but I'm neither an ape or dark skinned.
Well your racist views certainly classify you as an ape.
Isn't that lovely, I bask in your hatred. Now good evening sir. And I'm no racist, many black and Hispanic girls are quite hot.
Oh! Never mind! Guys, he thinks minority females are hot, so he's not racist. Kind of like how Andrew Jackson could not be racist because he slept with black females.

*wants to sleep with black females. let's not pretend anybody would want to sleep with c.c.
ROFL!
31  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Al Green threatened with lynching for saying Trump should be impeached on: May 21, 2017, 07:39:47 pm
Isn't that lovely, I bask in your hatred. Now good evening sir. And I'm no racist, many black and Hispanic girls are quite hot.
That statement doesn't prove that one isn't racist. My mom used to be friends with a white woman who had biracial children with two different African-American men and that woman eventually showed that she was a huge racist.
32  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Al Green threatened with lynching for saying Trump should be impeached on: May 21, 2017, 07:08:56 pm
This thread seems to about a bunch of people trying to avoid condemning racist threats of violence.
33  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Al Green threatened with lynching for saying Trump should be impeached on: May 21, 2017, 07:02:54 pm
For one thing, threatening to kill someone for calling impeachment is crazy and not ever acceptable. Second, there is no question that these threats had a racist connotation and he played the tapes as proof. This is indefensible and should be called out for how disgusting it is.
34  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Tulsi Gabbard won't accept PAC/Lobbyist money anymore, joining No-Pac Caucus on: May 19, 2017, 11:51:39 pm
No one needs to take PAC money, because Super PACs can do ten times more. Really effective campaign finance reform would include expenditure limits on campaigns and lower donation limits, but that will never happen.
35  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The current situation, or President Hillary with emails/Benghazi hearings? on: May 19, 2017, 10:00:47 pm
I'm glad that Hillary didn't win, because Democrats are in a better position to gain seats in Congress next year.
36  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bernie's chances of winning 2020 primary? on: May 19, 2017, 06:00:26 pm
To win the Democratic primary, he'd have to win a lot of voters over that weren't exactly favorable to him the first time and have no reason to be in another cycle. It's overlooked, but he got nowhere close to winning the nomination in 2016.
37  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Brand New Congress (w Justice Dems) announces 5 new candidates on: May 19, 2017, 05:12:49 pm
"Justice Democrats" in TX-14, AR-03 and even FL-27? I did't know whether it's better to weep or laugh loudly....

The one in AR-03 is a Republican.

Also I don't think being a progressive is a death sentence in FL-27, unless you're also a terrible candidate in addition to being a progressive.

We already have JJR, the best possible candidate in the district.  There's no need for a random True Left some dude.

It's still good to give these guys a scare in the primary so that they feel pressure to commit to supporting Medicare for All, 15$ minimum wage etc. once elected.

No it isn't, it's a waste of resources.

We really just need a Grover Norquist type with like, 3 million dollars from NNU, AFLCIO, etc to run around threatening safe/swing Dems with negative ads if they don't sign a Medicare For All pledge.

I'd like to see selective targeting of safe seat Dems who've actually caused problems like Tom Carper and the IDC.  Also Grover Norquist is awful, we shouldn't be imitating him.

Norquist did have a picture of Lenin in his office because he admired how Lenin came to power.
38  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Brand New Congress (w Justice Dems) announces 5 new candidates on: May 19, 2017, 05:06:51 pm
The problem with that sort of logic is that Democratic primary electorates are different than Republican primaries. You have a lot of independents who wouldn't care one way or another about how a special interest group wanted.
39  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: GA-6 Special election discussion thread on: May 19, 2017, 02:13:57 pm
Ossoff will win.
40  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: MT-AL: Rob Quist (D) vs. Greg Gianforte (R) vs. Mark Wicks (L), May 25 on: May 18, 2017, 09:19:39 pm
Can Gianforte just behave himself for the next week? Doesn't he realize that if he loses, a BERNIECRAT gets elected? This is honestly getting a little scary.
I'm not a Sanders fan, but a Berniecrat is better than another vote for Trump and Ryan any day.
41  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Please avoid making threats or wishing for violent crimes against any individual on: May 18, 2017, 05:05:33 pm
Are people seriously debating about who it is okay to wish death upon? You really shouldn't be doing that at all, because it's just wrong. Just don't make those sort of comments, period.
42  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump told he can't land helicopter on ancient Israeli site - cancels speech on: May 18, 2017, 01:59:40 pm
Is he the President or a celebrity making absurd demands for appearances?
43  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Challenge to forum leftists. Put your money where your mouth is. on: May 16, 2017, 11:09:47 pm
A better proposition is you leave the forum for good if Republicans lose control of Congress in 2018.
44  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should Donald Trump be removed from office? on: May 16, 2017, 09:28:44 pm
Yes and as soon as possible.
45  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The “Resistance” Moves Towards Violence and Intimidation as Key Tactic on: May 16, 2017, 09:25:22 pm
This is the nutcase that tried to create a fake scandal to help Scott Brown save his Senate seat when Elizabeth Warren was running. No one cares anything from that site.
46  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump: exercise is bad, people are like batteries on: May 16, 2017, 12:10:00 pm
Anything that he doesn't like he considers to be bad.
47  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Is trump revealing classified information an impeachable offense on: May 15, 2017, 09:19:53 pm
What is impeachable is up to Congress and it's clear that the 115th Congress is not going to see it that way.
48  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump revealed classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador on: May 15, 2017, 09:03:17 pm

Oh please. They hate him even more because he beat them. They literally are losing their minds. I've read articles about people on the coasts going to see psychiatrists over it, literally.

More like people hate him because he's a dangerous person and quite a nasty personality to boot. Besides, Republicans hated Obama because he beat them and are still upset about it, so it's not like one side gets angry about losing.

There's way more immaturity about it. Republicans still went to his inauguration, 40+ members of Congress didn't "boycott" a democratically elected President. Republicans didn't burn the flag or break windows or defecate on photos of the POTUS and smear it in.


Declining to attend his inauguration would have been better than creating theories about him not being born here or being constant obstructionists. Besides, Obama didn't have the negative personal reputation that Trump has, so of course the protests against him were a lot different.
49  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump revealed classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador on: May 15, 2017, 08:52:03 pm

Oh please. They hate him even more because he beat them. They literally are losing their minds. I've read articles about people on the coasts going to see psychiatrists over it, literally.

More like people hate him because he's a dangerous person and quite a nasty personality to boot. Besides, Republicans hated Obama because he beat them and are still upset about it, so it's not like one side gets angry about losing.
50  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump revealed classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador on: May 15, 2017, 08:49:26 pm
Convinced that most liberals on here are trolls who love personally attacking and calling pro-Trump Republicans cultish racists.

They will always be butthurt over losing the election. They won't get over it. Ever. 5 months in, I enjoy watching them become even more unhinged.
"Trump won more land area, yahoooo!"
PV doesn't matter and EC did it's job! Woohoo!

It did it's job alright, it put a nutcase in control of the nuclear codes and classified information. That's not a good thing and reinforces the need for the National Popular Vote Compact.
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