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76  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Transition Team/Cabinet Thread on: November 16, 2016, 06:46:34 pm
The Trump Administration is a failure already. I love, love, love it.
77  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: BREAKING: Major post-election Trump scandal! on: November 16, 2016, 06:44:31 pm
Welcome to being in the driver's seat and all that comes with it.
I was unaware that the footage of Malia Obama smoking a joint on a playground was something the media has a duty to report on.

Don't blame anyone else for this (last time I checked, Malia wasn't the President, her father was). Trump is the President now and he has to accept what comes with the territory, as do his ilk. Sorry.



78  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: BREAKING: Major post-election Trump scandal! on: November 16, 2016, 06:35:09 pm
Welcome to being in the driver's seat and all that comes with it.
79  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary breaks 50% in Orange County, California on: November 16, 2016, 06:33:36 pm
Long term this is a problem for Republicans. States like Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin will flip back to Democrats based on how narrowly they were decided and because Trump can't deliver on bringing manufacturing jobs back. If places like Orange County don't flip back Republican, yet Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin go Democratic in 2020, I'd say that doesn't equal a Trump re-election.

With that said, it's Trump who is really upset about losing the popular vote, because he's been tweeting about it. He's such a damn loser that he can't accept winning the Presidency, yet losing the popular vote. The Devil is never satisfied, I supposed, so I guess he's always going to find a way to put himself in a personal hell.
80  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: After all, should we give Donald Trump a chance? on: November 15, 2016, 07:47:31 pm
Not at all, because it's clear from the start that he isn't going to do a good job.
81  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why don't we become two separate countries? on: November 14, 2016, 11:34:46 am
That would throw create economic hardship for most of the red states seeing as blue states generate a huge amount of revenue.
82  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will President Trump appoint a special prosecutor to investigate.......... on: November 14, 2016, 11:32:24 am
Trump won, yet some people are still not satisfied. Leave her the hell alone and move on.
83  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Do you think attitudes toward BLM were essential to Trump's success? on: November 13, 2016, 11:48:29 pm
It confuses me why anyone thinks Black Lives Matter had anything to do with the result. People bought into Trump's rhetoric about bringing back non-existent manufacturing jobs. That's exactly what the map tells us.
84  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: WSJ: Obama is "grooming" surprised Trump on: November 13, 2016, 09:25:57 pm
Wow, so Trump really is that inept. People wanted an outsider and they are getting one. When he accidentally drops a bomb on London, good luck explaining that one away.
85  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Slate: The electoral college is an instrument of white supremacy-and sexism on: November 13, 2016, 09:24:47 pm
Because one article online changes EVERYTHING. Some of you really need to grow up.
86  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Will the left finally wake up and realize we need to change our thinking? on: November 13, 2016, 09:08:52 pm
Copying Trump is not going to get Democrats anywhere. It seems like some people want Democrats to start supporting segregation laws to start winning. If Democrats started talking about mass deportations, they would seriously be dead.

But of course, let's nominate David Duke in 2020 and see the party have a huge landslide.

No need to talk about it when Obama has already done mass deportations without talking about it.

My point is that Democrats aren't going to win by being a far-right, nationalist party. It's stupid that people even think this is even a good strategy.
87  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Will the left finally wake up and realize we need to change our thinking? on: November 13, 2016, 08:58:27 pm
Copying Trump is not going to get Democrats anywhere. It seems like some people want Democrats to start supporting segregation laws to start winning. If Democrats started talking about mass deportations, they would seriously be dead.

But of course, let's nominate David Duke in 2020 and see the party have a huge landslide.
88  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Process / Re: The popular vote argument on: November 13, 2016, 08:44:15 pm
The rural argument really doesn't hold much weight, because there is no legitimate reason why elections should be weighted based on region. Regional concerns are why we have a Congress.
89  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Will the left finally wake up and realize we need to change our thinking? on: November 13, 2016, 08:10:27 pm
So much of what Democrats had when Obama first took office was based on the Bush Administration's failures and residual Blue Dog strength, which resulted in an inflated sense of Democratic strength. By 2018, I expect Democrats to be doing quite well. One party control tends to lead to dramatic electoral change in midterms.
90  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump to immediately begin mass deportation on: November 13, 2016, 07:19:09 pm
What is funny is that this could cost Texas some seats in Congress, therefore lessening their electoral college power. Same is probably true for Arizona. Reapportionment is based on overall population, even undocumented immigrants.

With that said, the jobs that working class whites think are coming back are gone forever and they aren't coming back. Couple that with the fact that the areas in the Midwest where most working class whites are concentrated have very few Hispanic and you get a scenario where it's hard to see where undocumented immigrants really have taken jobs that been in decline for over 40 years.
91  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How would have Elizabeth Warren fared in the primary and general elections? on: November 13, 2016, 06:59:15 pm
You think white working class men would have voted for a woman? That's one of the reasons why Trump won, because he was seen as putting women in their place. I'm convinced that the Access Hollywood tape helped him, because it was pretty much a rallying call for white working class men. Besides, Warren is educated and that is even more of a threat to Trump's top demographic.
92  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Ohio and Iowa safe R states now? on: November 13, 2016, 01:19:35 pm
It's too early to say one way or the other. Either way, I think it's going to be quite funny when they realize that Trump is not going to bring those manufacturing jobs back. I have no sympathy for either state. They are states of the past and they just can't seem to come to terms with that.

As a Democrat though, I would rather invest in Georgia over Ohio. The former will surpass the latter in electoral votes after the 2020 Census. The Atlanta area is ripe for Democrats, especially considering how Cobb and Gwinnett voted.
Cobb and Gwinnett will easily vote for a Rubio type character over any democrat. There's not as much hope in suburbia for Democrats during a normal election, despite this year's anomaly. The only lasting trend democrats need to be worried about: poor and working class whites.

First off, Trump is the incumbent now and Rubio or someone like him isn't going to be the nominee next time. Second, there has been a history of suburbs like this not flipping back to Republicans once they lose them.
93  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Juanita Broaddrick: thanks for ending her "nightmare", gets called c-word & pig on: November 13, 2016, 01:08:35 pm
She is a pig a liar and a criminal.
Yep! And she lost this election to adorable Donald.

Adorable? You really are sick. I don't think Trump is into men, so you might want to refrain from calling him adorable.
94  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Isn't it ironic that the "populist" won while actually losing the "popular vote" on: November 13, 2016, 01:06:55 pm
IDK, but I hope it hurts.
Why don't you grow up?

They really need to ban this guy again.

Agreed. He's only being provocative and not offering much legitimate discussion.
95  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Ohio and Iowa safe R states now? on: November 13, 2016, 01:05:48 pm
I don't think that is the case.
96  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: NBC: Hate crimes spike following the Election on: November 13, 2016, 01:03:58 pm

Even when the people were threatening to rape her? A guy with a Mexican flag literally yells something out about raping her and that is just "racist crap" instead of an event that literally happened?

I know the old racist canard, but does that make every white rape victim attacked by anyone who isn't white a racist liar or something?

Assuming that this whole story is true, it really doesn't explain away the reason why white supremacists think that Trump winning gives them a blank check to do whatever they want. There are people out there posting names on lynching lists and acting as if Trump getting elected has suddenly turned the country into The Purge.
It doesn't, but it also doesn't explain why Clinton supporters and creeps like you think it is ok to bully, intimidate, harass, and terrify people either. This backlash you are seeing originates with the behavior of the many (mostly white, by the way) psychotic Clinton supporters.

Too bad President Trump Derangement Syndrome/PTDS (TM) can't be cured.


The protests are more anti-Trump, than pro-Clinton and I'd wager there are quite a few people protesting that aren't exactly huge Clinton fans.

Too bad insane, genocidal white supremacy can't be cured. Fortunately, it will remain as obscure and isolated as it always has been.
97  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: NBC: Hate crimes spike following the Election on: November 13, 2016, 12:51:37 pm

Even when the people were threatening to rape her? A guy with a Mexican flag literally yells something out about raping her and that is just "racist crap" instead of an event that literally happened?

I know the old racist canard, but does that make every white rape victim attacked by anyone who isn't white a racist liar or something?

Assuming that this whole story is true, it really doesn't explain away the reason why white supremacists think that Trump winning gives them a blank check to do whatever they want. There are people out there posting names on lynching lists and acting as if Trump getting elected has suddenly turned the country into The Purge.
98  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: NBC: Hate crimes spike following the Election on: November 13, 2016, 12:34:49 pm
Trump supporters are merely taking their country back. Plenty of them think that Trump winning is an open door to going out to beat up or kill whoever they want. Problem with that logic is that the law still is in place and Trump isn't going to do anything to get his supporters out of trouble.
So why were people like you so violent against us? Where you trying to take your country back too? Or do you just like throwing eggs and threatening to rape blonde housewives because they happen to be Republican?



Did she deserve that? Is this ok? Is this allowed in a civilized, western democracy?

And here comes the racist crap that white women are going to be raped. You are showing just who you are. Considering that there was much violence at Trump rallies and that a white, female reporter was repeated targeted for insults, I'd say that there is a real issue with Trump people. The anti-Semitic chants, the KKK throwing a rally to celebrate Trump winning. There are a lot of white supremacists who have some crazy ideas about what Trump winning entitles them to do.
99  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Should democrats focus on the South instead of Upper Midwest going forward? on: November 13, 2016, 12:30:03 pm
MI, PA and WI are the states to focus on, because it seems like they will easily flip back next time around. Since the Midwest is losing population, other states do have to be considered. All of the states Clinton won, plus AZ, GA, FL, NC and TX are also where work needs to be put in.
100  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump voters... on: November 13, 2016, 12:25:25 pm
So now qualifications matter? Isn't being totally outside of politics and a total novice supposed to be what Trump is about? His cabinet should be full of regular people who have never served in office or even been near government if his campaign promises are true. If he's not putting blue collar workers in his cabinet positions, he's a major hypocrite.
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