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26  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVI: Sidejackin' it in the Train Room. on: July 28, 2014, 03:59:36 pm
Just like that, I've scored my first interview tomorrow at 13:30.

I would suggest sending a few people in pm the name of the company and link to the ad, so we can do the research you will refuse to do.
27  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVI: Sidejackin' it in the Train Room. on: July 28, 2014, 09:13:59 am
What on earth is a "3 days notice"? You're supposed give at least two week's notice.

Expect to be escorted out of the building again, Jeff.

A 3 days notice is what they request.  They don't require a full 2 weeks.  This was explained to us the first day.

I have made my decision after sleeping on it and I'm going to make the unpopular decision of pulling the plug and then get started on the job search as soon as I get back home.

WTF
28  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVI: Sidejackin' it in the Train Room. on: July 27, 2014, 10:15:27 pm
Basically, folks, I am listening to all of your concerns and I am mulling over all of my options right now.  You guys are bringing up valid arguments and I've spent the past little while trying to talk myself into hanging onto the job and at least trying to look in the evenings and do what has been discussed here.  I'm also mulling over my options if I take my parents' advice to quit, figuring out what my first moves would be.  I have already found one job fair I can go to anytime this week Tuesday-Friday.  Then again, if I held onto this job, at least I would have a paycheck coming in.  It is money in the bank for now and I can get on the phones and do the best I can.  There are pros and cons to both decisions.  The cons of hanging onto this job is I might potentially miss out on some opportunities just by not being available to interview at a moment's notice.  The cons of quitting is that I run the risk of being out of a job for quite some time.  The pros of hanging onto this job is the aforementioned paycheck, but also that some employers prefer someone who already is working as opposed to someone who is sitting at home during the day looking.  The pros of quitting now is I can go all-in on the job search immediately once I get home.  I have a big decision to make.

No one interviews on "a moment's notice" for jobs. You could "go all-in on the job search" already if you didn't spend all your evenings and weekends watching baseball and visiting your parents all the time.

Hell, he could apply for jobs as he has the baseball game.  Also, exactly right on  the moments notice thing.  That simply isn't done.  If someone is calling you for an inerview it isn't like they are going to have the position filled by the next day.  You call back, set up a time within a few days, take a half day and go to the interview.  That is how it works Bushie, that is what employers do.
29  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVI: Sidejackin' it in the Train Room. on: July 27, 2014, 09:30:18 pm
You know what guys, I don't have to listen to this crap anymore.  I'm going back to politics for a while.

Bushie, with all due respect you need to learn to face your issues and not go run and hide, as well as how to take criticism.  We are making an attempt to help get you out of a situation that has often been self inflicted.  However, instead of learning from your mistakes, listening to others, and taking heed of others advice and yes criticism, you don't.  You get all defensive, ignore otherr peoples advice, refuse to make any changes, refuse to learn from your mistakes job wise and healthwise  or any of that.

 You have a bunch of people here giving you advice, giving you pointers, and instead of taking that advice, you do the opposite and expect everyone to simply accept it and not question you or say it was wrong.  It is quite frustrating when we have tried to help you, some going way above and beyond (J-Mann in particular) and it simply gets ignored

  On top of that, look at your recent posts about this job and your situation.  Does it make any sense for things to change that quickly multiple times over a short period of time??  At first I thought you may have been not telling the whole truth to us or simply lying because you didn't want to hear it.  Now, I think it is bigger than that.  You simply aren't being honest with yourself, so instead you decide to come up and latch on to every excuse possible.

Yoy are dead broke, DEAD BROKE, and yes you are in a job that is a bad fit and likely won't last.  That means you hunt for another job, send resumes in the evening, try to find another one.  It doesn't mean you quit.  Work and get the $$ while you can.  You have no $$$$.
30  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVI: Sidejackin' it in the Train Room. on: July 27, 2014, 08:49:56 pm
The honest truth:  I have not been fired.  However, I will go into work in the morning and turn in my 3-days notice, under the full readiness that they may walk me out.  The thing with giving my notice is to be courteous.  I will go in and be prepared to stay all day, if that's what they want.  I am prepared for whatever happens.

The fact is I can't look for a job effectively when I'm working 8-5 with a 30-minute lunch, have no access to my cell phone while I'm on the floor itself.  Yes, I can call them back during lunch, but it's likely their lunch hour, as well.  The policies for phone use is different on the floor side-jacking or taking calls than it is in the classroom.  I look for most jobs online, but the employers generally call me to set up an interview.  I also go out and look for jobs, which is not obsolete.  Ever heard of temp agencies?   I basically don't want my hands tied while trying to play ball, if you will.

Yes, Inks, I know exactly what I'm doing.  You are free to question that, but you will not change my mind.


Bushie, apply online, keep yourjob.  You get a call from a potential employer call back when you have time, and set up an interview. Take a half day like you did when you were sick last week, go to interview and go to work late orning early afternoon.  This shouldn't be a hard concept. 
31  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVI: Sidejackin' it in the Train Room. on: July 27, 2014, 01:23:11 am
Bushie,

First off, sorry about the breakup, I know it can be rough. With that being said, you need to be honest.  If off the bat you said, hey Allison and I broke up its a little tough right now and I don't wish to discuss it, I think most of us would have respected that.  However, when you go down to this mutual breakup thing and immediately try to shut it down, it makes people think.

Secondly, the 2,300 calorie thing isn't going to do crap for you unless you get some exercise. 
32  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XV: Stuck Inside of Tulsa with the Oklahoma City Blues Again on: July 25, 2014, 02:47:11 pm
Mid-August? Labor Day?

What?


Apparently it takes a month or more to get all of our logins.  That would be August 9 at the earliest.  That's a Saturday, so August 11.  I'm just going to be ready any time.

WTF?  A month to get the log in's??  By all means, take the $$ as long you can get it, but continue to look non-stop.  You need to really ask yourself if this makes any sense....
33  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XV: Stuck Inside of Tulsa with the Oklahoma City Blues Again on: July 25, 2014, 10:06:15 am
Surely you could handle an entry-level accounting job where you review orders for accuracy and process things, right?

The guy who spent $58 on a fake job application processing and reviewing orders?

Sounds great.

You could have a point, although I'm thinking risks would be greatly minimized in an environment where he's a piece of a much larger chain and has a checklist and constant flow of work to keep him occupied. His type excel at repetitive tasks.


You still need to pay very close attention to detail in a job like that.  Considering the website he used, anyone taking 30 seconds to look at it (states another name, that they aren't affiliated with the USPS) should have been able to tell it was bs.  He needs to improve on that.
34  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: job applications on: July 25, 2014, 12:27:41 am
Paper. You know, the thing that you actually hold in your hand and get off your ass to deliver in person?

In my field, that's not possible.  If it's a small business, random people can't even enter the building, if it's bigger, you'll get to see a receptionist.

I understand there are restraints, but it's pretty sad that we've made it so that it seems like it's not even possible to take a piece of paper to someone and talk to them. I mean, the act of picking up a piece of paper and putting it in someone's hands actually is possible.

When I was working in Manhattan you couldn't go anywhere in my building without a pass showing that you worked for the bank, or checking in through security and having someone either come down and get you or tell them it was okay.  I'm sure my building was far from the only one like that (my dad's building was the same).

You can't exactly go up to security, hey I got a resume, let me up.  It doesn't work that way. There are some offices here on Long Island that have something similar.  In most other cases you might get into the office if is someplace with no seciroty, but the chances of you geting into someone in HR, or anyone who isn't a receptionist is virtually zilch.

With that being said, some jobs in retail, etc might be a different story, but for any office type job a paper application likely gets nowhere.
35  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XV: Stuck Inside of Tulsa with the Oklahoma City Blues Again on: July 24, 2014, 08:48:36 pm
A court needs to put Bushie's money in a resulting trust to hold for him until he's competent enough to take care of it himself. Once he proves that he's able to handle it, only then can the trust be ended.

That would be better, but I wwill settle for him asking in update if he should send $$ to this scam or that scam....
36  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XV: Stuck Inside of Tulsa with the Oklahoma City Blues Again on: July 24, 2014, 07:17:44 pm
Jeff, what was the name of the book you bought, and how much did you pay for it?

I don't know what the name of the book was, but the price was $58 including the price of the book and shipping and handling.

I would check your credit card balance and recent transactions, who knows if you are actually getting a book.  You could have just punched in your credit card data for someone to steal.

I just checked my online account and I don't show a charge on their, yet.  I've checked my pending transactions, but I see nothing.  I gave the information to an actual customer service rep.  I physically talked to someone to give her my cc info.

I would check every couple days for the time being.  The only thing I can really find about the company you applied for is other people saying they made the same call (though they didn't send the $$$).  Hopefully you just got screwed out of the $58.  Keep checking and if you see anything suspicious report it and cancel the card immeiately.
37  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XV: Stuck Inside of Tulsa with the Oklahoma City Blues Again on: July 24, 2014, 07:01:52 pm
Bushie

I think I found the add.  Don't you think it is a bit odd it said company: Labor Services??


And had this at the end

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  Labor Services is a private employment service that offers assistance in gaining employment and is not affiliated with the US government, its agencies or affiliates.

 - See more at: http://regionalhelpwanted.com/Search/detail.cfm?SN=34&ID=111087952#sthash.fuikohNn.dpuf


Do you even try to read anything??
38  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: job applications on: July 24, 2014, 06:53:41 pm
I think the last time I did a paper application I was looking for a summer job when I was in high school, and I'm 32.......

Actually I should amend this somewhat, I have used paper applications/resumes at job fairs, but that is pretty much it.
39  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XV: Stuck Inside of Tulsa with the Oklahoma City Blues Again on: July 24, 2014, 06:49:53 pm
Jeff, what was the name of the book you bought, and how much did you pay for it?

I don't know what the name of the book was, but the price was $58 including the price of the book and shipping and handling.

I would check your credit card balance and recent transactions, who knows if you are actually getting a book.  You could have just punched in your credit card data for someone to steal.
40  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Who will win in Georgia? on: July 24, 2014, 12:25:28 pm
Wait... Why the hell is the runoff scheduled for after the new Congress is sworn in? Was I reading that correctly??

Yes. This is what happens when you let Republicans make calendars.

Well, I guess it helps to know how to read a calendar: the Senate runoff (if needed) is in December. The Gubernatorial runoff would be in the new year. Bizarre, yes, but not as bizarre as having a Senate runoff after the new Congress is sworn in.

Um, no.
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State and Local General Runoff Date        December 2, 2014
Federal General Runoff Date        January 6, 2015

Wait... Why the hell is the runoff scheduled for after the new Congress is sworn in? Was I reading that correctly??

Yes. This is what happens when you let Republicans make calendars.

But these runoff rules were instituted when Democrats dominated the South.

Again, not really. The runoff threshold was at 50% for over 100 years, and yes, that was due to Democrats wanting a guarantee. In 1992, Wyche Fowler lost the run-off against Coverdell despite beating him in the general election.

The Democrats then changed the run-off requirement to 45% to begin with the 1994 elections, where it stayed at through 2004.

Once Republicans took control of the General Assembly in 2005, they changed the rules back to 50% (since it now benefited them). So at least in Georgia, the current runoff laws were instituted by Republicans.

Well, I'd chalk it up to an error but for the SOS to have it listed that way, it would be a pretty massive error. In my defense, though, several reputable sites have stated that the Senate runoff is in December and the Gubernatorial runoff is in January.

According to Green Papers there was a ruling by a Judge in 2013 that changed the Primary and Runoff dates.  It was made official in January when Deal signed it into law.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/1ptkJLSpqqXAMftLUYJ-Qd1hlt-z3nfyGpTno1UVoniH1rGLXDpgcFxpjMeFk/edit?usp=sharing

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/G14/GA
41  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: Roanoke College - Gillespiementum! on: July 24, 2014, 09:21:32 am
Warner is under 50, so tossup

The likelihood if Warner winning is the same as McConnell winning.

Lol what
42  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XV: Stuck Inside of Tulsa with the Oklahoma City Blues Again on: July 24, 2014, 12:06:44 am
Bushie,

1. I know you don't wan to hear negativity, but it is a fact of life.  We all wish you success, and hope we are wrong about your jo situation.  However, the fact of the matter is you aren't a sales person, you aren't cut out for it.  That isn't a knock on you, but its just reality.  Doing outbound sales calls is far more difficult than handling inbound calls, which you could not do.  I work in sales, albeit in a different industry (financing), but its just not a good fit.

2.  Make the online applications postal service.  Don't waste time or the package.  That is absolutely insane.

3.  You can't become a letter carrier.  You are in awful shape and woudn't be able to handle the walking.  There likely is other stuff you would be cut out for (working the counter for one perhaps), however letter carrier is not one of them.

You really need to set yourself up with goals, but realistic ones.   Know what you are good in and focus on that.  Know what you need to work on and do what you can to improve.  There is nothing wrong with having a positive outlook, and it is important to have one.  However, at the same time it is also important to know what your limitaions are.  This I think tends to be your biggest flaw.

43  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Dana Rohrbacher tackles the real issues on: July 23, 2014, 09:21:55 am


Wee-bey's reaction basically explains it well.....
44  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: If Maryland, DC, and Virginia became one megastate, which party benefits? on: July 22, 2014, 01:36:52 pm
Why is everyone saying Republicans? Maryland and DC are solid D. Yes, they would lose two senate seats, but that would be the whole senate, not just Democrats. But Maryland and DC would influence the whole thing making Colmarnia (sure let's go with that) a blue state at the moment, just as NoVa influences Virginia to start tilting left in general now.


The general thinking is VA will become a pretty solid Democratic state in the not too distant future.
45  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: New York Governor- 2014- Astornio vs Cuomo on: July 22, 2014, 01:33:36 pm
Christie rejected Astorino's play for more money.

Because, like I said, with Democrats like Cuomo, who needs Republicans?

I somehow think it has more to do with the fact Christie realizes Astorino doesn't have a shot in hell.
46  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XV: Stuck Inside of Tulsa with the Oklahoma City Blues Again on: July 21, 2014, 10:21:25 pm
If anything, perhaps all the discussions about the cooking channel will help Bushie learn how to cook without assistance!

And he never told us what all he ate this weekend Sad


The chance he ate good is about the same as the chance he went for a walk.
47  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XV: Stuck Inside of Tulsa with the Oklahoma City Blues Again on: July 21, 2014, 10:14:37 pm
Bushie, how well are you at dealing with people yelling, screaming and cursing at you without taking it personally?  And how are you in dealing with it in general?
48  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XV: Stuck Inside of Tulsa with the Oklahoma City Blues Again on: July 21, 2014, 10:09:59 pm
Yeah this isn't a scam job by any means. It's just one of those jobs that churn and burn people. Bushie is by no means safe, and I'll be shocked if he lasts more than a couple of weeks after he actually gets on the phones. Has he ever lasted more than a few weeks at any call center he's worked at?

Also, it's strange Bushie insists on working at a job he knows he isn't suited for, yet refuses to work retail or at Wal Mart because he feels it isn't a job he's suited for.

He claims this is different because he use to do inbound and now this is outbound.  Somehow not realizing that if he can't handle inbound calls, how the hell is he ever going to handle outgoing sales calls??
49  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XV: Stuck Inside of Tulsa with the Oklahoma City Blues Again on: July 21, 2014, 09:40:29 pm
With all of five minutes of investigating ...

... it's legitimate enough -- an "insourced" call center for communication / telecom / tech companies to utilize for customer support and upselling purposes.

The reviews on Glassdoor, however, are universally negative. It's a churn-and-burn environment; one that -- again, Jeff -- is not conducive to your psychological strengths and make-up. It's probably as close to a legal sweatshop as you can get. The entire reason places like this exist are because companies like AT&T DO NOT like to "throw money around." Rather than hire their own in-house staff of well-paid inside sales and customer service associates, they insource these duties to companies that fill those voids while standing on the backs of those desperate for a job.

BUT ... it's legitimate. Do what you need to do to survive there, Jeff, but realize that ultimately this job and this company aren't for you and keep searching in the evenings for something better that suits your skill set.


I would agree with this.  It is legit, and considerably better than some of the other "jobs" Bushie has had.  However, it appears to be very cut throat with little upside.  I wish you the best, but I would continue looking for other jobs across the board, I just don'tsee it as a good fit
50  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XV: Stuck Inside of Tulsa with the Oklahoma City Blues Again on: July 21, 2014, 09:22:34 pm
This sounds so shady. 5 people have already "quit" after a few days of sitting around and talking about sports and cooking?

3 people have apparently quit because they weren't understanding the material that we did go over the first few days of class.

Or did 3 people quit because they realized it was a scam??

Since you think you are getting paid tomorrow, do you know if it is straight salary or a draw yet?

It's not a scam and is not a draw system.  What will happen is I will compete against the other 11 agents.  The top 5% will get $6.00/hr more than the base.  The next 5%, $5.00;  then it goes down from there.  The top 70% will get at least 25 cents an hour additional.  Only the bottom 30% won't get anything.


Bushie, can yo please pm myself J-Mann, Grumps and a few others the name of this company, so we can do some research??

check your messages

Just looking briefly for now, but found the career potion a bit odd.  Mentions nothing about salary or beneits, not even the bs competitive salary.


Did find something  bit interesting in rregads to what was discussed earlier.  Another office in another state was forced to pay workers after complaints about taking pay away for bathroom breaks.  Workers said it broke state labor laws and they won.
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