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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: List of Alternate Presidents on: November 26, 2015, 09:28:50 pm
Basically put, Republicans tack to the "left" on immigration and whatnot while solidifying a reputation as tax cutters, free traders, and whatnot. This results in the parties not being substantially different, policy-wise, but with substantially shifted public personas.

40. David H. Koch (Republican-Kansas)/George H.W. Bush (Republican-Texas) 1981-1989
41. Walter Mondale (Democrat-Minnesota)/William J. "Bill" Clinton (D-AR) 1989-1997
42. John S. McCain III (Republican-Arizona)/John Ellis Bush (Republican-Florida) 1997-2005
43. John Ellis Bush (Republican-Florida)/Willard "Mitt" Romney (Republican-Massachusetts) 2005-2009

44. Donald J. Trump (Democrat-New York)/James H. "Jim" Webb Jr. (Democrat-Virginia) 2009-2017

The 2016 race is shaping up between Vice President Jim Webb (D-VA)/Former Governor Brian Schweitzer (D-MT) and Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/Former Senator Joseph I. "Joe" Lieberman (R-CT). To win their respective primaries, Webb fended off challenges from Senator and former Second Lady Hillary Clinton (D-AR), Governor Barack Obama (D-IL), Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT), and former Secretary of Defense Zell Miller (D-GA); Senator Rubio, meanwhile, faced former Governor George W. Bush (R-TX), Senator Scott Brown (R-MA), Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), and former Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice (R-CA).


Businessman Donald J. "The Donald" Trump (Democrat-New York)/Senator James H. "Jim" Webb, Jr. (Democrat-Virginia) 346 electoral votes
President John Ellis "Jeb" Bush (Republican-Florida)/Vice President Willard M. "Mitt" Romney (Republican-Massachusetts) 192 electoral votes
Former Senator Lincoln Chafee (I-RI)/Former Senator Maurice "Mike" Gravel (I-AK) 0 electoral votes


President Donald J. Trump (Democrat-New York)/Vice President James H. "Jim" Webb, Jr. (Democrat-Virginia) 378 electoral votes
Former Vice President Willard H. "Mitt" Romney (Republican-Massachusetts)/Senator Lindsey Graham (Republican-South Carolina) 160 electoral votes
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Political Quiz List. Are you a Quiz Whiz? on: November 26, 2015, 07:15:29 pm
My results have been getting weirder and weirder...

Your result for The Scientific Cultural Theory Test ...
The Center

You scored 68% individualism, 44% fatalism, 52% hierarchy, and 24% egalitarianism!

You adhere to both the Individualist and Hierarchist cultures. This means you are the Establishment, or "The Man." You run the system, or at least agree with how it's run. Any inequalities that arise are justified, because some people are just better or more deserving than others.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: WI: A Different Reform 2000 on: November 26, 2015, 06:15:21 pm
Because neoliberal warmonger era are sooo new!
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Obama vs. Sanders 2016 on: November 26, 2015, 05:56:55 pm
Unlikely Obama stays in the Senate. Either Vice President or Governor Obama would be running in this.
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which of the following terms would you use to describe your ideology? on: November 26, 2015, 12:14:45 am

How can someone who styles himself "Mr. Reactionary" be a pragmatist?

Suicidal terrorists who kill thousands of people can be pragmatic.
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - The Whinge Binge on: November 24, 2015, 10:24:21 pm
Just got back to Boynton for the first time since I moved to Tally, only to find that my autistic brother has been watching his movies on the typical Chinese video sites, leaving my computer wracked with viruses (as is my parents computer). It's going to be a long, long night.

Also, I checked my Tinder and realized that half of my high school is on there. Good Lord, I immediately disabled it from showing me so nobody knows I have one Tongue.

Eff that, bro. You've taken a picture with Rog Stone and shaken hands with the Donald. Stock just jumped like 600%.
7  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Do you support reviving the enhanced interrogation program to confront ISIS? on: November 24, 2015, 05:07:22 pm
Of course not. Torture is immoral.

As is the existence of most nation-states.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Donald Trump turning into a fascist with each succeeding comment? on: November 24, 2015, 04:54:27 pm
Having a real hard time understanding all the liberal quibbling about fascism. I'd think the collectivist sentiment embodied by the symbolic fasces would really pull at the ol' left-wing heartstrings.
9  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Which Part of the US is the Most British? on: November 24, 2015, 04:12:28 pm
A friend of mine who I bum cigs from outside the porch of the liberal arts building did an independent study class of an island off the Virginia coast that has remained virtually untouched by us Yanks since the revolution. Apparently their accent is one of the closest things alive to how English sounded back in "the day".
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: College Students Are Ridiculously Infuriating Safe-Space/Mega-thread on: November 24, 2015, 03:22:41 pm
Idiocy comes to Washington: Western Washington University cancels classes due to online hate speech spurred by protests over Viking mascot.

In an interview, Shepard said Western was alerted by employees who saw the threat first on the anonymous social-media phone application Yik Yak.

[WWU President Bruce] Shepard confirmed that some of the hate speech appears to be connected to a suggestion made by student leaders that the school’s mascot, a viking, be changed to one that is more inclusive.

[Shepard wrote,] “Does a Eurocentric and male mascot point to the future we wish to embrace? Or to the past we would move beyond? And, is this, then, an image all can identify with?”

I've never heard of Yik Yak.

So... a Native American mascot is racist and/or cultural appropriation, but at the same time, a European one is backwards thinking.
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - The Whinge Binge on: November 24, 2015, 03:17:47 pm
I just learned that my grade of 45 people will see a private showing of Star Wars the Force Awakens on it's opening day.

How expensive is the school that you go to?
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Sanchez's 20,000th post YUGE extravaganza! on: November 24, 2015, 03:08:33 pm
A heavy air of sarcasm needs to re-descend upon this blessed land. I've tried to lead the way, but there are few followers.

If only you had charisma, mein moderator!

I'd like to think that the fault is the people at-large, and not me.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What gaffe/scandal would cripple the previous poster's candidacy? on: November 24, 2015, 03:07:20 pm
Facebook necroing reveals his support for now-recluse cultist Ron Paul.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Sanchez's 20,000th post YUGE extravaganza! on: November 24, 2015, 09:49:26 am
Uh, in this world you've dreamed up, wouldn't me just shotgunning Natty Light be me doing my job? But no, I don't shotgun. And I already live in a world of beer & Marlboros, so you're not promising me much.

If there's any real problem, it's people taking posts seriously. A heavy air of sarcasm needs to re-descend upon this blessed land. I've tried to lead the way, but there are few followers.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Donald Trump turning into a fascist with each succeeding comment? on: November 24, 2015, 09:37:56 am

...He tried to Build a Wall so they could not break Free...
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is it hypocritical to use fascist-sounding language to describe fascists? on: November 24, 2015, 09:36:04 am
Why's everyone here hate strength through unity?
17  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Ted Bundy (R-WA) vs. Newt Gingrich (R-GA) on: November 23, 2015, 01:59:35 pm
Bumping. Can NOT believe the overwhelming majority in favor of the sociopathic mass killer.
18  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Was Hitler charismatic? on: November 23, 2015, 09:00:37 am
God, the liberal weenies in this thread are ridiculous. "Hitler said obviously awful and evil things! Therefore, not charismatic!" So glad a few of you have had the mental flexibility to step outside the box of "me and mine" to actually be able to pass objective judgment. Now, I have no idea if Hitler was charismatic, I don't know German, but at least discuss his actual use of diction and rhetoric instead of relying on, of all things, ideology
19  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How are you planning on voting in 2016? on: November 22, 2015, 10:33:05 pm
Donald Trump. No idea about the rest.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Alternate Careers - again on: November 21, 2015, 05:53:04 pm
John S. McCain III
Naval Liaison to the U.S. Senate 1977-1979
United States Secretary of the Navy 1979-1981
United States Senator from California 1983-1992
President of the United States 1993-2001
21  General Politics / Individual Politics / Ted Bundy (R-WA) vs. Newt Gingrich (R-GA) on: November 21, 2015, 05:43:45 pm
Which of these two socio/psycho-pathic Rockfeller '68 campaign members do you prefer?
22  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Favorite Great Lake on: November 21, 2015, 03:28:59 pm
This is like asking me what my favorite strain of the flue is.

Do you hate water or something? You know your body's like a lot of percent water, right?
23  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What political view of yours is furthest from the mainstream? on: November 21, 2015, 03:14:39 pm
liberal democracy doesn't work. multiculturalism isn't all its cracked up to be. lsd should be legal

These all sound common-sense.
24  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Awarding Teacher Tenure on the Basis of Seniority on: November 21, 2015, 02:25:41 pm
Horrible practice, it needs to be based on good the teacher is

The fact that you see it as simple as that shows you know nothing about the teaching system.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Re: 1972 after a LBJ victory in 1968 on: November 20, 2015, 04:03:43 pm
"In March 1970, Johnson suffered an attack of angina and was taken to Brooke Army General Hospital on Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio. He was urged to lose a considerable amount of weight. Johnson had grown dangerously heavier since leaving the White House, gaining more than 25 pounds (11 kg) and weighing around 235 pounds (107 kg). He had also resumed smoking after nearly fifteen years without having done so, which contributed further to his health problems. The following summer, again gripped by chest pains, he embarked on a crash water diet, shedding about 15 pounds (6.8 kg) in less than a month. In April 1972, Johnson fell victim to a second heart attack while visiting his daughter, Lynda, in Charlottesville, Virginia. "I'm hurting real bad," he confided to friends. The chest pains hit him nearly every afternoon—a series of sharp, jolting pains that left him scared and breathless. A portable oxygen tank stood next to his bed, and he periodically interrupted what he was doing to lie down and don the mask to gulp air. He continued to smoke heavily, and, although placed on a low-calorie, low-cholesterol diet, kept to it only in fits and starts. Meanwhile, he began experiencing severe stomach pains. Doctors diagnosed this problem as diverticulosis, pouches forming on the intestine. His condition rapidly worsened and surgery was recommended, so Johnson flew to Houston to consult with heart specialist Dr. Michael DeBakey. DeBakey discovered that even though two of the former President's coronary arteries were critically damaged, the overall condition of his heart was so poor that even attempting a bypass surgery would likely result in fatal complications."

ATL: "Johnson resigned after receiving a flu virus in January of 1970 and suffering an attack of angina in March thereof. He would go on to die within nine months, on August 9, 1970, after refusing a heart surgery which would give him three to five more years to live but had about a 55% chance of killing him. Hubert Humphrey had refused to run again in 1968 in order to deal with progressives at the Convention. Therefore, Eugene McCarthy, his new Vice President, succeeded him as President. McCarthy chose Stuart Symington, an experienced Senator popular with the establishment and the conservative wing, as the next Vice President."

319: Pres. Eugene McCarthy(D-MN)/Vice Pres. Stuart Symington(D-MO) - 42.0%
137: Gov. Ronald Reagan(R-CA)/Mayor John Lindsay(R-NY) - 36.5%
082: Sen. Strom Thurmond(A-SC)/Fmr. Gov. Ross Barnett(A-MS)  - 41.2%%

strongly doubt Reagan would chose John Lindsay (a democrat in all but name and an actual democrat by the end of 1971) as a running mate.

He would have to in order to not alienate Ford/Rockefeller supporters.

There's a far cry from Gerald Ford to the origin of the phrase "limousine liberal". Even Rocky had at least an anti-communist inclination; Lindsay had nothing.
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