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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Politicians and famous people that share your birth date on: Today at 10:47:10 am
Guy Fawkes Day, if that counts.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Should Virginia (the poster) be awarded with 13 electoral votes? on: Today at 07:43:23 am
Mod forces, stand by if shutdown becomes necessary.
3  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Are the female shorts replacing the skirts? on: June 30, 2016, 10:03:32 pm
I certainly hope not!
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Unfortunate Son on: June 30, 2016, 10:00:22 pm
You-Know-Who would have probably shot himself already, rather than have a boring retirement.

Whoa, doggie. With one of his best friends in the race, he's still got a dog in this fight.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Unfortunate Son on: June 30, 2016, 09:48:22 pm
The Race for the White House 2000


Andrew Lamar Alexander, Jr. (Republican-Tennessee)
Secretary of Health, Education, & Welfare 1992-1993
United States Ambassador to Japan 1985-1988
44th Governor of Tennessee 1975-1983

The 1996 nominee for Vice President, a veteran of the last three Republican Presidencies and a former two-term Governor of Tennessee--the youngest in the state's history--Andrew Lamar Alexander, who opted to go by his middle name, instead chose once again to cast himself as a populist campaigner. Despite his extensive political background, Alexander had been largely ignored by the media and the establishment, as money and attention pooled around "chosen" candidates like Liddy Dole and Dave MacKenzie. Despite a moderate record as Governor, Alexander was intent on building on his coalition from four years earlier, where his bedrock had been Southerners and evangelicals. Looking to extend into the Mid-West, Alexander railed against "big money" in politics, media bias, and the Hart administration's "abject incompetence". He was noted for traversing Iowa in a Ford Explorer, wearing his signature plaid shirt.


Joseph Robert Kerrey (Democrat-Nebraska)
Co-Chair, National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States 1998-Present
United States Senator from Nebraska 1989-Present
35th Governor of Nebraska 1983-1987

Kerrey had no desired to seek the Presidency a second time. In 1992, many had hailed him as a potential savior of the party, yet he had left the field with a scant two victories in his home region and not even an offer to serve as Secretary of Defense! Nevertheless, the Vietnam vet had opted to take another look at the post of Commander-in-Chief. Remarking to an aid in mid-1999, the Senator had quipped that "Ferraro is a walking, scandal-ridden disaster waiting to implode, and the rest of the field will signal our surrender overseas!" Ferraro and Romney, as it stood, had been the only candidates prior to Kerrey's entry not waging a campaign based on some sort of withdrawal from the Middle East in the wake of the 8/7 attacks. For what it was worth, Romney had proposed an ill-hashed together foreign policy vision--choosing to focus instead on the economy and social issues. With that said, Bob Kerrey felt the party and the nation needed a strong candidate. Outside of foreign policy, Kerrey was promising a quiet continuation of administration policies and a balanced budget.


Richard Bruce Cheney (Republican-Wyoming)
United States Secretary of Defense 1990-1993
Senate Minority Whip 1989-1990
United States Senator from Wyoming 1979-1990
Assistant Director of the Cost of Living Council 1971-1973
White House Staff Assistant 1971

Cheney was the Republicans' national security candidate. Despite having received several student deferrals during the Vietnam era, Cheney had spent years cultivating ties with neoconservative think-tanks, foreign policy hawks, and defense contractors while accumulating an acceptably conservative legislative record and consummate insider experience. Vowing to "bring America's enemies to heel", Cheney promised a United Sttaes that "can again be the principle player in world security", claiming that the "desperate retreat" of the last eight years were responsible for not only recent terrorist attacks, but also for "a nation in decline on the global stage, threatened by the rise of Asian mercantilists and a corp of dedicated, anti-Western extremists." He stood vigorously against campaign finance reform--"a draconian restraint on the right of every individual and firm to contribute to political conversation"; tough on crime; and in favor of an expanded surveillance system for law enforcement and national security reasons.


Richard Douglas Lamm (Democrat-Colorado)
38th Governor of Colorado 1975-1989
Member of the Colorado State Senate 1972-1975
Member of the Colorado House of Representatives 1964-1972

If not for Scott Westman, Dick Lamm might've been able to avoid sharing the label of "the most idiosyncratic candidate in the field". Campaigning on an ideologically heterodox platform opposing "the radical right...the trial lawyers and the NEA", unrestricted immigration, pollution, special interests, and a whole host of other political institutions, the former Governor styled himself a "progressive conservative" who would lead the United States into what critics derided as "carbon-neutral, free trading, anti-immigration people's republic".
6  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1996 Presidential Election (No Reagan Series) on: June 30, 2016, 02:48:23 pm
Fantastic matchup, though both are to the left of what I'd expect from them. At work, so I can't decide now.
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which Generation do you belong to? on: June 29, 2016, 10:24:34 pm
I take great shame in being forced to identify as a member of my generation.
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the banned posters: Curbstomp on: June 29, 2016, 06:46:15 pm
Whoever he was, I doubt he was here enough to warrant a coveted "Opinion of" thread.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Are you a "rootless cosmopolitan"? on: June 29, 2016, 06:44:34 pm
I am both a literal rootless cosmopolitan and exactly the sort of person who the phrase was meant to describe, so yes.

Effing Davos men.
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Ronald Reagan vs. Donald Trump on: June 29, 2016, 06:02:01 pm
Jesus, I'm not voting between Cancer and AIDS (Normal)

Reagan would be AIDS, I assume?
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: WI: Obama won the 2000 IL-1 House of Representatives Primary on: June 28, 2016, 09:50:40 pm
I think there wouldn't be big difference. He would have been reelected once, in 2002, and then run for the senate in 2004. The rest remains the same.
Um, what?

Look, Obama hated the Senate irl. He's probably going to hate the house even more. Running for governor is probanly going to happen. A win or even a loss would have a major impact.

Interesting point; perhaps he sticks it out two terms in the House, retires, then seeks the Governorship in '06? One might imagine a Hillary v. Edwards fight in '08, and the possibility of former Governor or even VP Obama seeking the 2016 nomination.
And more importantly, one does not imagine a two-term Governor Blagojevich.

Was Blago elected in 2002? My mistake; I'd been mis-remembering my scant knowledge of Illinois gubernatorial history.

Yes, but a primary challenger in 2006 got about 30%. It was some Chicago alderman who had previously been the Region V HUD Administrator beginning in 1993.

Didn't Green do well in that election as well?
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: "How Millennial are you?" test on: June 28, 2016, 09:30:12 pm
56. F#cking millennials...
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you know any blue collar people? on: June 28, 2016, 07:26:47 pm
I made a mental note today that my coworkers were literally wearing blue collars as part of their work uniforms.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone IV - Hungover on: June 28, 2016, 07:25:32 pm
I've got a writing rush. I love it.

Jealous. Not sure if I'll get back to any of the progress made this weekend until next. Good thing it looks like I've got a few vacations coming up!
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Guess the previous poster's real name on: June 28, 2016, 07:23:56 pm
Phoebe.
16  General Politics / Book Reviews and Discussion / Re: What Book Are You Currently Reading? on: June 28, 2016, 07:12:17 pm
Picked up more library books on Friday, but I've barely cracked 'em. Spent all weekend writing, though. Drew up a second "proposal" of sorts, but it's rooted mainly in readings as opposed to "data" (what there is). This thesis is gonna be a feat. (Long story short: I'm supposed to do an "honors thesis" started, oh, last semester which is to be "original research". Someone in my areas of interest probably doesn't have a lot of wiggle room there without, say, y'know, travel or surveys, or something like that, so I'm working with extant statistics that have probably used on subject matter that's already been touched. No idea if I'll get through this and I don't have the most attentive guidance)
17  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Have you moved more right ward or left ward since joining this forum? on: June 28, 2016, 07:07:48 pm
"Leftward" as defined on a traditional Nolan chart. If you conflate authoritarianism with the right, however...
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: If Bernie Sanders were Republican.. on: June 28, 2016, 07:03:05 pm
This assumes that Rubio keeps the South and doesn't fall to pieces... Unlikely, in which case, a Cruz South and maybe more Northeastern states going to our Republican Bernie Sanders.

Red - Senator Marco Rubio of Florida
Blue - Senator Ted Cruz of Texas
Green - Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont

Perhaps, instead, this:

Blue - Senator Ted Cruz of Texas
Green - Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont
Yellow - Governor John Kasich of Ohio
Red - Senator Marco "Dogsweat" Rubio of Florida
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: If Bernie Sanders were Republican.. on: June 28, 2016, 06:44:19 pm
Let's look at it like this... What parts of Bernie Sanders' persona would "fly" in the GOP (even in liberal New England)? A candidate who retained his suspicion of unfettered free trade, nominal support for gun rights, and foreign policy dovishness would probably be electable in Vermont. Assuming he's a Republican, he's still pro-choice, supports maybe some sort of "Romneycare", though attempts to distinguish it from Obamacare, supports Israel, maybe courts the granola vote (which includes homeschooling evangelicals on the right) with suspicion of GMO's, and so on. Obviously, we remove "billionaire class" rhetoric, his identification as a socialist, student loan forgiveness, and so on. Perhaps an emphasis on tax cuts for the middle class. At the end of the day, we see a combination of Old Right and Rockefeller Republicanism that might be electable, even in the GOP, in Vermont on a good year. In the GOP primaries, in a 2016 that lacks Trump, he might be able to pull off a win in New Hampshire based on a combination of moderates and populists. Trump has shown that the GOP has a substantial amount that are outside the Heritage Foundation orthodoxy that might vote for a candidate of "pure rage". Perhaps Sanders could have channeled this to a few wins in New England and the West?
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Yiannopoulos, Crowder, et al.--why do we even know about these people? on: June 28, 2016, 06:08:48 pm
good analysis.  as to why now, I imagine it is partly a result of how political discussion (if you can call it that) is marketed and shared on the internet in a way that further erodes any distinction with entertainment. The shock factor is a way of grabbing attention in an "information" saturated environment.


interesting that your Bible study is discussing fascist architecture. Tongue

This makes sense and feeds into my overall framework. We need to nuke Facebook's servers to save our children.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Yiannopoulos, Crowder, et al.--why do we even know about these people? on: June 28, 2016, 05:58:41 pm
I'd try to answer, and maybe I"d produce a paragraph of nonsense masquerading as intellect, but I don't feel like that, so I'll just skip to the easy, cynical, probably incorrect and yet so lovingly simple: the death of the West and the decline of humanity as the race to govern this planet.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Unfortunate Son on: June 28, 2016, 05:08:31 pm
Seems like Ferraro might face a tough fight for the nomination. Is there a favored alternative?

There are a few... Roll Eyes I'll be profiling the candidates one-by-one; haven't had a lot of energy for updating though since I've got an honors thesis to work on when I'm not at work and, thus, my mind is elsewhere.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: WI: Obama won the 2000 IL-1 House of Representatives Primary on: June 28, 2016, 05:07:05 pm
I think there wouldn't be big difference. He would have been reelected once, in 2002, and then run for the senate in 2004. The rest remains the same.
Um, what?

Look, Obama hated the Senate irl. He's probably going to hate the house even more. Running for governor is probanly going to happen. A win or even a loss would have a major impact.

Interesting point; perhaps he sticks it out two terms in the House, retires, then seeks the Governorship in '06? One might imagine a Hillary v. Edwards fight in '08, and the possibility of former Governor or even VP Obama seeking the 2016 nomination.
And more importantly, one does not imagine a two-term Governor Blagojevich.

Was Blago elected in 2002? My mistake; I'd been mis-remembering my scant knowledge of Illinois gubernatorial history.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Say nice things to the poster above you on: June 28, 2016, 05:48:38 am
Note: Nice things to, not about.

Good luck at college!
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Election Infoboxes! on: June 28, 2016, 05:47:00 am
To my knowledge, the "official" maps--see Griff--are done by region.
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