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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Ask R2D2 (this should be fun) on: August 21, 2014, 11:53:48 pm
Regarding "pop" being fascist, I can affirm that as I am fascist as well.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Oui, Mr. President on: August 21, 2014, 11:44:20 pm
Great work, dude.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: A Tale of Two Texans on: August 21, 2014, 11:34:29 pm
This is sick. What was Agnew's angle? Did he run as his 1960's Rockefeller Republicsn incarnation, or his 1970's populist conservative persona?
4  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which of These Individuals Sounds More Appealing? on: August 21, 2014, 11:27:40 pm
Yeah, Nathan,  was thinking along the lines of Tolkein too until I read that X was anti-Catholic.
5  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Which Batman director is your favorite? on: August 21, 2014, 04:21:19 pm
LOL @ no votes for Schumacher so far.

Nor does he deserve any.
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone II - Less Boring, More Whoring on: August 21, 2014, 02:48:41 pm
Registered to vote and got my enhanced driver's license today. Woohoo.
7  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Which Batman director is your favorite? on: August 21, 2014, 02:32:48 pm
Basically this.

Nolan




Burton
























Schumacher   
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: A Tale of Two Texans on: August 21, 2014, 02:31:40 pm
Glad to see someone's using the idea again, and this time with an earlier President Bush. Should be interesting, especially if H.W. gets stuck dealing with the late '70's.
9  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which of These Individuals Sounds More Appealing? on: August 21, 2014, 09:28:40 am
Are Catholics not allowed to read Greek?
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Rick Perry indicted on abuse of power on: August 21, 2014, 12:06:25 am
This is pretty badass. I may have changed my support from Paul to Perry.
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone II - Less Boring, More Whoring on: August 20, 2014, 10:59:49 pm
Submitted my job application to be a research assistant in UDM's poli-sci department. As it's a work study position, submitting an application is something that's done after you're basically ensured the job. Making $9/hour which will theoretically get me my full "gift" of $1250 from the federal government by the end of the semester. This week off is making me stale and I need to become productive again.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: What if West Virginia never split off from Virginia? on: August 20, 2014, 05:11:32 pm
Ate you referring to Byrds of different feathers?
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which atheist do you have a more positive opinion of? on: August 20, 2014, 03:58:38 pm
Why would I have a positive opinion of an atheist?
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone II - Less Boring, More Whoring on: August 19, 2014, 08:45:18 pm
This is very sappy but meh;

I had a very snuggly day with Michael. In bed, snacks, crappy YouTube videos and kicking him with my leg if he took too much of the blanket. There was no effort but it was a superb.

You ate snacks in bed? Do you want ants? Because that's how you get ants.

15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: A Second Chance on: August 19, 2014, 07:45:00 pm
The 1988 General Election

Despite the fact that the Conservative ticket was bi-partisan, it mainly cut into Anderson's support. Hatfield had managed to pacify the Republicans' right-wing for one election. However, they would be unwilling to merely sit by and hand their votes to Anderson. Moynihan, meanwhile, had placated the Democratic South as much as he could, and their machine could easily overpower whatever money Buckley received from conservative activists and disaffected Republicans. While Anderson might have competed well in a conventional, two-way race, Buckley doomed him, especially with his unique appeal to a certain section of conservative North-Easterners that could prove crucial in states like Connecticut, New Hampshire, and the electorally heavy New York and Pennsylvania.

The debates would showcase the strange mix of ideologies that the election featured. Particularly, the proposals circulating in Congress regarding free trade with Canada and Mexico. President Hatfield had signed the North-American Free Trade Agreement in 1986, conveniently before the Democrats retook the Senate later that year. Congressman John Anderson, a proud adherent to much of the President's economic policy, voiced his support for NAFTA and said he would resign it without question upon ratification in the other two countries. Moynihan, though he had a history of leaning in favor of free trade, knew he had to consolidate the blue collar base that he had utilized in the primaries. With Buckley also taking a favorable stance towards NAFTA, New York's former Governor stood firmly against it. "Over the past eight years of Republican administration, we have seen jobs continuously lost overseas, while the growth that the current President brags about has largely been among low-paying and service jobs. Meanwhile, our industrial heart has been ripped out and metaphorically sold East." Between the three candidates, with Buckley hurling grenades from the right while the two main candidates fought for different pieces of the center. While the debates allowed for Buckley to gain attention in all corners of the country, they would also cost him, as he sacrificed significant support in more moderate states, especially among socially conservative industrial and blue collar voters with his tougher-line on fiscal and economic issues compared to the other two.

The Vice Presidential debate would prove far more entertaining. While there was substantial discussion of the issues in the Presidential debates, the meeting of Bill Clinton, Ross Perot, and Phil Gramm on national together on national television for the first time would be bombastic. Perot and Clinton, both of whom had legislative and verbal records disagreeing with the members of their top tickets on the matters of free trade. Perot and Clinton would both accuse each other of being hypocritical. It would be Gramm who came off the best in the debates as Perot's wiley populism and Clinton's slick Southern charm went to waste on each other while the Texas Representative appeared to be the most ideologically consistent and presented a united front for the Conservative party.

Above: Vice Presidential nominees Bill Clinton and Ross Perot would butt heads in the Vice Presidential debate, significantly more than the relatively cordial Anderson and Moynihan rapport.

The debates on the whole would, however, serve to reinforce what polling indicated. From the Democratic National Convention, Moynihan had led. While Anderson had been able to inch his way up, gaining ground in the Northeast and widening the gap in certain safe states. Meanwhile, however, Buckley's numbers had been swelling in the Mountain West. Some even predicted him taking Wyoming or Alaska. While Anderson was losing in most predictions, he was determined not to back down in the approach to election day.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Oui, Mr. President on: August 19, 2014, 04:47:58 pm
This is awesome.
17  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Bull-Moose-a-Thon II: Electric Moosaloo on: August 19, 2014, 03:41:43 pm
My boy "Paddy" Smith.
18  General Discussion / History / Re: House of Paine article of the History of the Left/Right paradigm on: August 19, 2014, 03:40:56 pm


This is rather obvious, but for reference. Also, I kinda f#cked up which side to put modern left and right on, but I was going off a mental image, a "vision", if you will.
19  General Discussion / History / Re: House of Paine article of the History of the Left/Right paradigm on: August 19, 2014, 03:31:28 pm
An interesting article; however, it seems (correct me if I'm wrong) that the author is coming at this subject from that libertarian 'everything can be collapsed into tyranny versus liberty' standpoint, which I think is rather simplistic. After all, what are those two things to be directed towards. It's quite conceivable that you can have an authoritarian government which seeks to smash how society has traditionally been structured, whilst on the other hand you can have a 'libertarian' (weak) government which stands aside and allows for the continued dominance of powerful forces that have traditionally ruled over society. For example, the feudal system, to a very large extent, was not upheld by central governments, but rather by individual landowners. The state in the feudal era wasn't particularly 'authoritarian' (which does not neccessarily make it good) because it was so weak and had so few resources to draw upon.

Thus, one can't neccessarily collapse the left-right division into an 'authoritarian vs libertarian' axis, because that a) ignores the purposes of a certain type of government and b) ignores the practical realities on the ground. Just a thought.

True.

As I noted he had a more strict American libertarian viewpoint on the matter of power than anything.  I am a bit more, well Marxist in thought.  I for one believe the "non-coercion" principle is pretty much garbage and that in some instances the use of force is necessary to achieve objectives.

Of course, strict doctrinaire libs would argue that is statism, but their philosophical beliefs don't give room to combat the scourge of corporations (and arguably many of them see no harm from such institutions).  More to the point, contrary to the beliefs of Anarcho-Capitalists, capitalism can only exist when the state is present and actively supporting it.

So what would I do?  I don't know, but a TNF post is a pretty good start.

The argument posed by the article, overall, seems to take classical liberalism, brand it as "true liberalism", and subsequently brand its only opposite as conservatism. This ignores a broader left-right spectrum that places liberalism between conservatism and socialism, which seems to be how it is traditionally taught, at least by my recollection of Intro to Poli Sci. While it's an interesting take, it is ultimately irrelevant/unfeasible.
20  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: Renegade: The Life and Times of Senator David MacKenzie (R-VT) on: August 19, 2014, 02:45:26 pm
Who are Dave's main rivals looking at '96 within the party?
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Happy Birthday, Gramps! on: August 19, 2014, 02:43:21 pm
Happy birthday, bud.
22  General Discussion / History / Re: House of Paine article of the History of the Left/Right paradigm on: August 19, 2014, 07:54:43 am
Interesting post. I'm only a few words into the article and I'm already seeing problems with it. I think Dallas may have linked me to this or something similar to it at some point in the IRC.

Outside of that, regarding the existence of two "conservative" parties, in this case, you are coming from the concept of one who seemingly has a very narrow view of what the "left" constitutes. In today's world, it would be perfectly valid for a socialist or someone of a similar stripe to complain about two right-wing political parties. However, there's the other side of the coin as well. On the right, one who demands absolute compliance to a fringe ideology could just as easily denounce the two major parties as liberal or left-wing. After all, while it could be said that Bill Clinton was a leader in championing neo-liberalism within his party, presidents like Nixon, Reagan, and Bush never truly threatened the nation's welfare state like a "true rightist" might want, nor did they criminalize abortion. From a fringe perspective, it's easy to denounce both parties as being basically similar, since, from that position, neither will give you what you want.

I shall possibly continue reading now.
23  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: People who are both FFs and HPs (at the same time) on: August 18, 2014, 10:47:14 pm
I guess it's unfair for me to deride Snowstalker and than say Nixon....but Nixon Tongue.

obvi
24  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Windjammer vs. Committee of Public Safety on: August 18, 2014, 10:30:28 pm
Both are unapologetically authoritarian. The Committee at least was effective and badass.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVI: Sidejackin' it in the Train Room. on: August 18, 2014, 01:25:06 pm
Bushie, for cooking, I recommend you "marinade" (of sorts) turkey breasts in tobasco sauce, salt, bacon salt, and ground black pepper. Once complete, grill in your backyard until perfection. While this may sound unhealthy to you health professionals, or amateurish to you cooking czars, but it tastes amazing.

Other things to cook: ground turkey, breakfast sausages, noodles, rice, etc.
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