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General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Eugene Debs
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on: June 18, 2013, 09:46:36 pm
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I don't necessarily consider him a horrible person, but for the purposes of this poll, I'll answer HP.
I take it you 3 are voting HP in a "protest" sense like voting FF in a Hitler poll. Since this poll is made for the purposes of his role as a political and labor leader, myself (and I assume those quoting me) would have opposed him politically.
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General Politics / Individual Politics / 1872 GE "Redux"
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on: June 18, 2013, 10:32:12 am
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The year is 1872. After four years of what critics have determined an indecisive and unproductive presidency, the Republican party tossed President Reuben Fenton out of power in favor of the nationally admired President Grant. Grant's handlers are promising a maintaining of the gold standard, a tougher line against the Ku Klux Klan, and greater support for war veterans. The Democrats meanwhile, in an attempt to win over "Fentonites", have nominated former Republicans Horace Greeley and B. Gratz Brown. The Liberal Republican Party, opposed to the view of Grant as a candidate without substance and one controlled only by handlers (rumors of corruption of Grant's inner circle have circulated), has been formed. Former 1868 Democratic nominee Salmon P. Chase, a man with appeal to both parties, has been nominated. As if there wasn't enough confusion in the election, die-hard Democrats, opposed to the nomination of Greeley, have formed the "Bourbon Democrat" party, nominating Charles O'Conor and the son of President Adams, John Quincy Adams II.
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Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Ask the next poster a question.....
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on: June 17, 2013, 09:34:55 pm
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Hmm... Delaware and the Northern Territories. America needs a larger Arctic presence so as to be in a good position to threaten Soviet expansionism with nuclear deterrents. Meanwhile, Delaware has like three counties and would be surrounded by the apparatus of the federal government. Not in a good position to try to oppose us.
EDIT: Question: Do you view America as the single greatest nation on earth, and why or why not?
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General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1872 Redux: Conventions
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on: June 17, 2013, 10:23:15 am
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Call me crazy, but Charles Adams/Victoria Woodhull.
Also, perhaps we could have had Chase '73-'81, then, say, Winfield Scott Hancock or whoever '81-'89, then Douglass '89-'93 and it continues on from there.
As fun as another go 'round might be, this is non-canonical, and not just yet. Give me a year to recover, then we can start fresh with new rules. 
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General Politics / Individual Politics / 1872 Redux: Conventions
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on: June 17, 2013, 09:41:30 am
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Okay. This won't be part of the "canon". However, I want to see how 1872, the most disastrous election we ever faced, might have fared sans-Woodhull. I'd been given the idea that following 1868, Salmon Chase would have his comeback as the Liberal Republican candidate against ol' Reuben Fenton. However, let's see. Again, not part of the canon, just a hypothetical.
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Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: New Opinion of Previous Poster's Signature Thread
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on: June 17, 2013, 08:39:06 am
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Paleo-Conservative slander. Had this thinking dominated our country, we would've been confined to an agrarian feudal state, powerless on the international stage.
In all honesty, looks kinda cool. I like your promotion of being reactionary. Nevertheless, I retain the right to the thoughts posted above.
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General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: Unfortunate Son
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on: June 16, 2013, 09:32:24 pm
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1976, Continued
In the summer of 1976, Mattingly was forced to move into Detroit in order to attend Wayne State University, choosing to make the leap from community college early, having completed some credits faster than expected and hoping to have a better chance of getting in. Using savings of his, he was able to find a small apartment, one of the cheapest he’d been able to locate. In order to maintain an income, his makeshift operation as a “neighborhood mechanic” was closed down in a sense and he became an employee at a local garage, working early in the morning and late at night under a Greek man named Theofanis Constantine (originally “Constantinou”). “When I think back to Teddy Constantine, I remember thinking I’d known a thing or two about cars. He taught me more than I thought was even left to know on the subject. And I also know, I also know that if it hadn’t been for his kindness in hiring me—a guy who didn’t have the advantage of being free for normal work hours—I wouldn’t be where I am today. When I finally graduated in 1979, after several years and countless dollars spent for that degree, it wouldn’t by Ford that I turned to. Constantine’s garage needed some business sense. Even in the midst of what, at least in my lifetime, was the single lowest point for the American economy, Constantine was looking to expand, and in many ways it made sense. With fewer people buying new cars, they needed the ones they had repaired, and repaired well. We—the business as a whole—had a good record of quality and consistency and when in the middle of the recession ‘Constantine Repair’ opened a second shop, I was made manager. With the seventies coming to a close and ‘Morning in America’ approaching, things were bound to change.” His ascendancy in the small company is rather understated, given that by 1979 he’d already been managing the garage in the late afternoons and had begun to handle accounting. In terms of Mattingly’s personal life, the tall half-Sicilian with a permanent beard stubble and a cigarette clutched in his teeth seemed have developed a certain underlying confidence by the late 70’s that allowed him to “hit his stride” with the ladies in time to meet his wife in December of ’79.
While things might have been looking up for Christian Mattingly as 1979, for the Democratic party, the picture right before the 1980 election would not be so rosey. Three years earlier, they were riding high, having ensured a “New Democratic Majority” existed in the country. The only election in which the Democrats had gained a majority since FDR’s last run in 1944 was the 1964 landslide against what they all saw as an extremist. 1976, to many in the party, had ensure that the Democrats would retain national political dominance, regardless of what 1968 had done, and they proceeded to act on that belief, arrogantly.
Nevertheless, the 1976 Senate elections were essentially a draw. With Democrats maintaining their slim majority (though not one particularly threatened by the opposition), the balance of power would remain intact. While James Buckley had been defeated by Bella Abzug in an upset due to the unpopularity of Connally in the Northeast and the strength of RFK in the Empire State, Republicans would see luck in other races. In Texas, George Bush would be re-elected by a healthy margin against a no-name opponent. Meanwhile in California, a state the President had won, former Governor Ronald Reagan, physically not up to the rigor of a presidential campaign since ’75, was nevertheless able to pull off a Senate victory again John Tunney. Montana probably had one of the most significant results that night. Freshman Congressman Scott Westman, a self-styled radical liberal who was, in actuality, to the right of much of his party on economic issues, had been able to win an upset in the primary and then proceed to a victory in the general. Westman had been forced to battle the Democratic reputation in regards to gun rights and the like. However, his personal popularity and ability to appeal to the people of Montana would pave his way to a win. All around, a shift in Democratic strength in the North was quite evident, with gains in Vermont, New York, and Pennsylvania. Meanwhile, the GOP made gains in the West and Mid-West with the exception of Rhode Island where liberal Republican former Governor (and Nixon Navy Secretary) John Chafee was elected.
1976 Senate Results Democrats: 52 (+2) Republicans: 47 (-1) Independents: 1
In Wyoming, both Congressman Humphrey Wilkinson and Senator Beauregard Disraeli were elected by hefty margins. The two, both known for their rather questionable personal lives, strange ideological and even religious views, and egoes, had not sat well with each other since they were both elected in 1970. With Disraeli running for President earlier that year, Wilkinson had considered primarying him but had decided against it at the last second. The Representative would nevertheless be caught "joking" about having to find a way to "bump Disraeli off".
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