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1551  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How do you pronounce the preceding poster's user name? on: April 29, 2013, 01:34:27 pm
Hatman:

Hätmän [hætmæn]

Örl Ei Dabeljuu [ɜ:rl eɪ dʌblju:]

Snowstalker:

Snoustaaker [snoʊstɔ:kɐ]

1552  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Votes and elections in Switzerland on: April 29, 2013, 12:57:23 pm
On the local level there was an interesting special election for city council in Zurich, my hometown, this month. The city council consists of 9 members and was composed of the following councillors before the special election:

Corine Mauch (SP, mayor)
Martin Waser (SP)
André Odermatt (SP)
Claudia Nielsen (SP)
Ruth Genner (Greens)
Daniel Leupi (Greens)
Gerold Lauber (CVP)
Martin Vollenwyder (FDP)
Andres Türler (FDP)

Martin Vollenwyder (FDP) retired and the FDP tried to retain its seat with Marco Camin. Camin was challenged by Richard Wolff, candidate from the left-wing Alternative Liste (AL). In a major upset, the FDP candidate, who was backed by his own party and all major centrist and conservative parties lost a narrow race to his challenger, who only got the official support from his own party and the Greens (the Social Democrats decided not to endorse any candidate):

Second ballot:

Richard Wolff (AL) 27.550 votes ELECTED
Marco Camin (FDP) 26.865 votes

This election has been another major blow for the once proud and strong FDP and has had the effect that the city council of Zurich has moved to the left even more. While the left had a 6-3 majority before the special election, it now has a 7-2 majority.

http://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/content/portal/de/index/politik_u_recht/abstimmungen_u_wahlen/vergangene_termine/130421/resultate.html?path=wm_resultate_stadtrat&context=standalone
1553  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / A-Bob Research Center: Mideast Gubernatorial Poll on: April 29, 2013, 09:34:36 am
It's been a while since we had the last poll, so let's do another one.

Please only vote in this poll if you're a citizen of the Mideast. If you're not a Mideast citizen and can't wait to see the results just click option 5.

This poll will run for 4 days.
1554  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Votes and elections in Switzerland on: April 29, 2013, 09:10:20 am
Who is in the Valais Left Alliance - SP, GPS & CSP?

SP, Greens, CSP Lower Valais and a movement called "Entremont Autrement". The CSP Upper Valais is in an alliance with the CVP.
1555  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Votes and elections in Switzerland on: April 29, 2013, 07:54:11 am
The results of the election for parliament in Neuchâtel have been published:

FDP/PLR: 35 seats (-6)
SP/PS: 33 (-3)
SVP/UDC: 20 (+6)
Greens: 12 (-2)
POP/SolidaritéS: 9 (-1)
Green Liberals/Vert'libéraux: 5 (+5)
CVP/PDC: 1 (+1)

While the left has emerged victorious from the elections for canton government, the left parties have lost their majority in parliament. The FDP can be considered the clear loser of the cantonal elections, while the SVP managed to improve its position.

http://www.ne.ch/neat/site/jsp/rubrique/rubrique.jsp?StyleType=bleu&CatId=4954
1556  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Votes and elections in Switzerland on: April 29, 2013, 07:45:37 am
Who do you usually vote for Zuwo?

Usually for the smaller evangelical parties, the FDP or SVP.
1557  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Should drug users be put in jail? on: April 29, 2013, 04:00:27 am
    What somebody does with that person's own body is no business of the government.

Unless we are talking about what kind of meat Atlasians are allowed to eat. (That's not directed at you, of course, but I couldn't resist. Tongue)

Well, meat is the body of someoone else.

Yes, but since the consumption of animal meat is generally legal in Atlasia it's extremely nanny-statist to regulate what kind of animals Atlasians are allowed to eat (especially because dogs don't belong to those species that are threatened of extinction).
1558  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Should drug users be put in jail? on: April 29, 2013, 03:56:34 am
     What somebody does with that person's own body is no business of the government.

Unless we are talking about what kind of meat Atlasians are allowed to eat. (That's not directed at you, of course, but I couldn't resist. Tongue)
1559  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Swiss Elections & Politics (18 October 2015) on: April 29, 2013, 03:08:21 am
There have been quite a few interesting and surprising votes and elections in Switzerland lately so I decided to create a thread for this.

Let's start with the most important recent cantonal elections.

- In March, a new parliament and canton government were elected in Valais.

The results were as follows:

Parliament:

CVP/CSP 61 seats (-7)
FDP 28 (+/-0)
SVP 21 seats (+9)
Left Alliance 20 (-2)

Canton Government (second ballot):

Oskar Freysinger (SVP - new) 56.913 votes
Waber-Kalbermatten Esther (SP - incumbent) 48.602 votes
Cina Jean-Michel (CVP - incumbent) 46.369 votes
Melly Jacques (CVP - incumbent) 42.862 votes
Tornay Maurice (CVP - incumbent) 41.792 votes
Bender Léonard (FDP - new) 29.874 votes - NOT ELECTED

Seat changes: FDP -1, SVP +1

http://www.vs.ch/Navig/droitspolitiques.asp?MenuID=4340&Language=fr

- In April a special election for a seat in the 5-member canton government was held in Basel-Landschaft since Adrian Ballmer, one of two FDP members in the canton government, retired. The FDP decided to throw their support behind a SVP candidacy, and subsequently an election took place between Thomas Weber (SVP) and Eric Nussbaumer (SP).

Second ballot:

Thomas Weber (SVP) 36.797 votes - ELECTED
Eric Nussbaumer (SP) 32.176 votes

Seat changes: FDP -1, SVP +1

http://www.baselland.ch/main_wahlen-htm.273417.0.html

- Elections for cantonal parliament and the 5-member canton government were held in Neuchâtel yesterday.  

Full results of the elections for parliament aren't available yet due to technical problems and because of the fact that several candidates appear to have the same number of votes. The electoral authorities of Neuchâtel released the following message last night:

"Attention : les résultats de l'élection au Grand Conseil contiennent certaines égalités de suffrages. C'est notamment le cas entre MM. G. Tarantino et L. Godet du district de Boudry.

Il appartiendra donc à la commission chargée du tirage au sort de départager les candidats. Cette commission n'ayant pu se réunir en raison de l'heure tardive des derniers résultats procédera à cette opération dans la journée de lundi."

Canton government (first ballot):

Absolute majority: 22.311 votes

Kurth Laurent (SP - incumbent) 21.351 votes
Karakash Jean-Nathanaël (SP - new) 20.422 votes
Perrin Yvan (SVP - new) 18.698 votes
Maire-Hefti Monika (SP - new) 17.440 votes
Ribaux Alain (FDP - new)16.987 votes
Herrmann Patrick (Greens - new) 15.363  votes
Grosjean Thierry (FDP - incumbent) 14.055 votes
Humbert Fred Alain Nago (POP (Left) - new) 13.904 votes
Gnaegi Philippe (FDP - incumbent) 12.767 votes

Preliminary seat changes: FDP -2, SP +1, SVP +1

No candidate has been elected on the first ballot, but the voters of Neuchâtel appear to be massively fed up with the current FDP-dominated government.

http://www.ne.ch/neat/site/jsp/rubrique/rubrique.jsp?StyleType=bleu&CatId=4954
1560  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Super Polling Center: Mideast Senate possibilities on: April 28, 2013, 02:29:57 pm
The second match-up would be a repeat of the most recent regional Senate election, while shua would be favored in the first one because he would get the support of the right and a substantial number of moderates and liberals.
1561  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: ZuWo and Cathcon: Experience and Leadership on: April 28, 2013, 02:21:49 pm
Maybe we could do Atlas elections on Survey Monkey Wink

Not a bad idea in principle. Wink But the general problem with off-site election is the question of how we can make sure that only people who are registered in Atlasia cast a ballot.
1562  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Drj101 on: April 28, 2013, 02:19:38 pm
Entertaining, to say the least.
1563  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: TNF for Mideast Assembly on: April 28, 2013, 11:02:37 am
16 years vote: I would also oppose this. People that are 18 years old have no idea about politics, and that's even more common in 16 year old kids. They would be too easy to manipulate.

We should also keep in mind that the minimum voting age in Atlasia is way below 16 already. Tongue
1564  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: ZuWo and Cathcon: Experience and Leadership on: April 28, 2013, 06:50:37 am
On the Question of a Secret Ballot

Candidate for Mideast Assembly a Person has asked Clinton1996/Siren about their stance on introducing a secret ballot (to read the question and Siren's answer click here), and I would like to offer my thoughts on this question as well.

My personal opinion on this issue is that we should pursue the idea of introducing a secret ballot and consider all options that are available.

Indeed, I believe it would make our game more democratic if ballots were not cast publicly. Voters could cast their ballots for the candidates of their choice without having to fear negative consequences of any sort. I am convinced that Atlasian elections would be much less partisan and more peaceful with a secret ballot system. Additionally, we would no longer have to see elections where people campaign for the invalidation of votes or put others under pressure to vote a certain way. All in all, I absolutely think that the game would become more fair with a secret ballot system.
It seems evident, however, that in order to establish a secret ballot system we need a method which is 100% safe and trustworthy. Is that difficult to achieve? Yes. Is it impossible? No, I don't think so.

I can think of two ways in which we could establish a secret ballot system.

1. Off-site elections.
2. A system whereby each Atlasian voter receives a secret code by the SoFE, then sends his/her vote to the SoFE and the SoFE publishes the code and the respective vote in a special thread. This way, voters can verify that their vote has been counted but no one (with the exception of the SoFE) can see how a certain person has voted.

I am leaning towards the second idea, but I am aware that a new and revolutionary system like this requires careful consideration. If there are questions, comments or additional ideas I will be glad to answer and discuss them. Smiley
1565  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: ZuWo and Cathcon: Experience and Leadership on: April 28, 2013, 04:37:38 am
To address the question that was asked in Russian (I suppose):

Yes, I like kitties if that's what you want to know. Perhaps not to the same extent as you do, but I still think they are cute. Wink

Unless 'kitty' is some kind of new slang word for 'asexual trans victimologist', I don't think you're answering his question. Wink

I refuse to use "Google Translate" in an Atlasia-related context, so you might very well be right. Wink
1566  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: ZuWo and Cathcon: Experience and Leadership on: April 28, 2013, 03:57:28 am
To address the question that was asked in Russian (I suppose):

Yes, I like kitties if that's what you want to know. Perhaps not to the same extent as you do, but I still think they are cute. Wink

Endorsed! You were an excellent governor last time and I can think of no one better to retake the reins once Governor Tmthforu retires!

I'd also like to point out how exceptional it is that both members of your ticket have been major-party presidential candidates. That is some formidable experience indeed.

Thank you, TJ. With the judicial branch on our side nothing can stop us. Tongue
1567  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: MA: Tmthforu94-Gass3268 High Speed Rail Act of 2013 (Debating) on: April 27, 2013, 01:55:55 pm
That is part of the reason why the original legislation only included the one line, but everyone else wanted more regional diversity in who would get served. I would be fine with just having the Chicago > Fort Wayne > Toledo > Cleveland line and the offshoot to Detroit. This would cost 20.1012 billion. We could construct the other lines at another point. I would like to know the opinions of the other legislators and the Governor. 

Having seen the GM's cost estimates, I think your initial idea was not too bad. We should aim to build all of these railway lines at some point in the not too distant future but it seems obvious that we cannot tackle all of them at the same time. $20 billion is a very large sum for our budget.
1568  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: MA: Amendment to Article 1, Section 4 of the Mideast Constitution (Debating) on: April 27, 2013, 01:39:22 pm
Great amendment. Why not just say every page listed on the Mideast index, though?

Yes, the points I listed are exactly those that are on the Mideast index. The reason why I listed every single of these pages was that I wanted to be as specific as possible. But it's no big deal to me - if the Assembly wants to amend it to "index" I can accept that.

A fantastic idea! I agree with the Governor, we should include every page on the Mideast Index. I personally believe that private citizens should be included as well, I've seen individuals with mistaken info (a person was listed as being a former Assemblyman, I think), and others that have done a lot for the region, but their history goes only to 2011 in the Wiki.

I thought about whether we should require the Governor and Lt. Governor to update the pages of all regional citizens but I eventually came to the conclusion that this would be too big of a burden. As long as the Governor/Lt. Governor only had to update the most basic information for each citizen, i.e. name, party affiliation and whether that citizen holds an office or not, I wouldn't see a big problem. However, it becomes tricker when we take into account that the constitution states that the Wiki has to be updated for all "legislation and occurrences". Does that mean, for example, that the Governor/Lt. Governor should have to update a citizen's page for every election in which that person has participated?
All in all, I think it's easier if we don't formally require the Governor and his Lieutenant Governor to update the pages of all private citizens but leave it up to their discretion instead.
1569  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: June 2013 Presidential Poll - Federalist on: April 27, 2013, 12:09:52 am
Hagrid's "the man". No surprise. But please let's forget this poll. It's embarrassing. Wink
1570  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: MA: Mideast Speed Limits Act (Final Vote) on: April 26, 2013, 11:58:16 pm
aye
1571  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: ZuWo and Cathcon: Experience and Leadership on: April 26, 2013, 03:37:22 pm
List of endorsements (in chronological order)

Speaker of the Mideast Assembly Inks
Senator (and soon-to-be President? Tongue) Clarence
Former Pacific Governor and Senator Spamage
Senator and soon-to-be SoIA Matt from VT
Senator HagridoftheDeep
Supersonic
Former Northeast Governor Winfield
Former Mideast Assemblyman JCL
Former Mideast Assemblyman Oldiesfreak1854
Northeast Representative Goldwater
President Marokai Blue
Mideast Assemblyman Lumine von Reuental
Senator X
Former Senator and Superior Court Judge TJ in Cleve/Wisco
Former Pacific Governor and Senator Oakvale
1572  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Senator X on: April 26, 2013, 03:26:06 pm
I'd like to give a special thanks to you for introducing this piece of legislation:

Quote
The Regional Exemption Act of 2013

1. Any region's Governor may, upon receiving majority support in the regional legislature for such an action, request a full exemption for their region from F.L. 23-5, F.L. 46.11, or F.L. 31.10
2. If a region's Governor makes such a request and the request receives a majority in the regional legislature, their region shall receive a permanent exemption from the law or laws effective immediately upon the issuance of the request.
3. Nothing in this bill shall be taken as an endorsement or any other form of support for the concept of nullification.  The bill shall instead provide a federal framework for regions to op-out of the aforementioned laws.

I think that the question of what drugs should be legal or not is best handled at the regional level, so I am glad we are on the same page. Smiley
1573  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: A-Bob Research Center: Mideast Political Demographics&Gubernatorial Survey 3 on: April 26, 2013, 08:37:57 am
4. Election for Mideast Governor: Have you made up your mind about your first preference vote?

"I'm definitely going to cast my first preference for Gass3268." - 2 voters (13.33%)
"I'm definitely going to cast my first preference for Clinton1996." - 6 voters (40%)
"I'm leaning towards casting my first preference for Clinton1996." - 2 voters (13.33%)
"I'm definitely going to cast my first preference for ZuWo." - 3 voters (20%)
"I'm leaning towards casting my first preference for ZuWo." - 1 voter (6.67%)
"I'm completely undecided." - 1 voter (6.67%)

5. In general, how do you intend to vote?

14 respondents (100%)

"(1) Gass3268/ (2) Clinton1996" - 1 voter (7.14%)
"(1) Gass3268/ (2) ZuWo - 1 voter (7.14%)
"(1) Clinton1996/ (2) Gass3268" - 5 voters (35.71%)
"(1) Clinton1996/ (2) ZuWo" - 3 voters (21.43%)
"(1) ZuWo/ (2) Clinton1996" - 3 voters (21.43%)
"(1) ZuWo/ (2) Gass3268" - 1 voter (7.14%)

6. Where would you place yourself on the following political spectrum?

Far right - 2 voters (13.33%)
Center right - 3 voters (20%)
Centrist - 1 voter (6.67%)
Center left - 7 voters (46.67%)
Far left - 2 voters (13.33%)



All in all, solid results for Clinton1996, who continues to lead in the race for Governor. It seems, however, that center-right and far-right voters are undersampled.
1574  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: A-Bob Research Center: Mideast Political Demographics&Gubernatorial Survey 3 on: April 26, 2013, 08:27:53 am
My call for additionall survey participants hasn't had any effect, so I'm going to post the full results now:

15 respondents (100%)

1. What is your opinion of the political balance of power in the Mideast?

"The region is too right wing." - 6 voters (40%)
"The balance of power in the region is just about right." - 5 voters (33.33%)
"The region is too left wing." - 4 voters (26.67%)

2. What would be your preferred balance of power in the Mideast Assembly?

"A majority for the right" - 5 voters (33.33%)
"A majority for the left" - 5 voters (33.33%)
"Neither a majority for the left nor for the right" - 5 voters (33.33%)

3. Which party (or parties) best represent(s) your political views and values? (Several answers possible)

Federalist Party - 6 voters (40%)
Liberal Party - 4 voters (26.67%)
Labor Party - 4 voters (26.67%)
Light Party - 8 voters (53.33%)
 
1575  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: TNF for Mideast Assembly on: April 26, 2013, 08:01:21 am
There are several ideas you stated that I don't support (basically your entire "revenue" section and your proposal regarding the Assembly, to name two examples) but I also see lots of ideas that I consider sensible, such as your stance on fracking, nuclear energy and GM foods. It's good to have candidates with lots of interesting ideas which challenge the status quo, therefore I wish you the best of luck!
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