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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: You've been elected to the 115th Congress. Your first piece of legislation? on: Today at 05:54:45 am
A bill of attainder ordering that Jeff Zucker be clapped in irons. Jurisdiction-stripped to hell and back.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What are you listening to? on: Today at 03:28:12 am
Metric, "On a Slow Night"
3  General Politics / Economics / Re: What is the next big thing economically? on: Today at 03:12:49 am
Autarky.

Get ready to milk your own cows and build your own horse-carriages.
Stop. I can only get so excited.

I detect zoophilia.

STICKS NIX HICK JOKES
4  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is Mitt Romney the biggest cuck in politics? on: Today at 01:25:31 am
While this push for SOS was probably well intentioned, he is going to come out of this pretty bad. He's probably lost his credibility as a strong conservative critic of trump too.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Why isn't Pence resigning as governor now? on: Today at 01:23:55 am
I think Holcomb is running the state already anyway.

Is it true that Pence is very, very unpopular among even a segment of Republicans?  My sister goes to Butler, and most of her Republican friends hate Pence.

Yes Indiana has a lot of fiscal conservative social moderate types in the Indy metro area and among college students who aren't big on Pence's social agenda.

Hell, I know some Indiana socons who think he's a fanatical slavering moron.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Drain the swamp (lol) on: December 10, 2016, 09:15:09 pm
It's not really surprising he would hire CEOs of large corporations.  This is Trump's world and these are the people he knows. The problem with this of course is that working in the private sector where your job is to maximize profit even if that means breaking laws (or finding ways so that the laws don't affect your business) is very different than being a public servant where your job is the exact opposite.  You're basically asked to switch from being selfish to being selfless and I'm not sure how easy that is or how willing they are to do it.
You expect people to take your post seriously by saying this?...

...yes? Corporations are literally not ALLOWED to be run for any other reason in this country.
Destroying shareholder value by conducting business illegally is how businesses are supposed to be run? Read the original post again.

I read the original post. Conducting business illegally is only damaging to shareholder value if you get caught.

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Also, there is a big difference between maximizing book profit and shareholder value.

I know that but people are allowed to talk colloquially about these things.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Transition Team/Cabinet Thread on: December 10, 2016, 09:12:33 pm
Politics1.com ‏@Politics1com  6m6 minutes ago
Trump reportedly will name US Sen Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND) as Agriculture Secretary. Under ND law, a special election will be held for seat.

Damn, well that's 53-47 if true.

Collaboratrice.
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Drain the swamp (lol) on: December 10, 2016, 08:30:48 pm
It's not really surprising he would hire CEOs of large corporations.  This is Trump's world and these are the people he knows. The problem with this of course is that working in the private sector where your job is to maximize profit even if that means breaking laws (or finding ways so that the laws don't affect your business) is very different than being a public servant where your job is the exact opposite.  You're basically asked to switch from being selfish to being selfless and I'm not sure how easy that is or how willing they are to do it.
You expect people to take your post seriously by saying this?...

...yes? Corporations are literally not ALLOWED to be run for any other reason in this country.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Allen West is giddy at the thought of Mattis running the DoD on: December 10, 2016, 07:10:47 pm
This made me realize that "Mad Dog" was also the nickname of a Madeleine L'Engle villain.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Sam Spade Memorial Good Post Gallery on: December 10, 2016, 06:30:40 pm
It's not really surprising he would hire CEOs of large corporations.  This is Trump's world and these are the people he knows.  The problem with this of course is that working in the private sector where your job is to maximize profit even if that means breaking laws (or finding ways so that the laws don't affect your business) is very different than being a public servant where your job is the exact opposite.  You're basically asked to switch from being selfish to being selfless and I'm not sure how easy that is or how willing they are to do it.
The Bush administration had many people from the public sector, especially from the oil industry and the construction sector and we all saw where that led us (these were probably the only two industries that benefited from the war in Iraq).
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone IV - Hungover on: December 10, 2016, 04:35:53 am
I’ve discovered KindredSpaces, an “online discovery tool” for research on Lucy Maud Montgomery. I find myself once again wondering how different my life might have been if I had gone to Vassar and majored in Victorian Studies like I for a while intended.
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Best and worst recent post by previous poster on: December 10, 2016, 04:35:11 am
Best:

I'm a spiritual person, but it disgusts me how religion tries to influence government policy in a regressive way.

Yeah... If only the Church checked with the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee before it put anything out in an election year. Get real. And "spiritual" as a word means nothing.

Maybe not to you crazy Catholics. Smiley

Anyway, the answer is obviously never.

Obviously, I meant in the context of that God-awful sentence. What, possibly, could "spiritual, but not religious," mean outside of some half-baked cop out for the extremely shallow? I suppose my routine skipping of mass doesn't make me a hypocrite, it just makes me "spiritual".

Cathcon, you're part of a vanishing breed; Catholics who know they are bad Catholics rather than insisting they are good Catholics or abandoning the faith altogether.

I'm intensely self-critical and, simultaneously, for personal reasons would likely never entirely disavow the Church, thus my current status.

Worst (as in DEAR GOD MAKE IT STOP #HELLSEMESTER2K16 HAS GONE ON LONG ENOUGH AS IT IS):

I figured why not? How y'all doing? What'cha got coming up?

I've got a presentation I've done most of the work on (and seen no contribution at all from group member three) on Friday. After that, it's Criminology and Intro to Russian I on Tuesday, Intro to Corrections on Wednesday, and an online exam for Intro to Digital Forensics that closes next Friday night.  Outside of the Hell that will be Tuesday, it's a relatively light load since five of my seventeen credits are outside the classroom/directed study (with a total of nearly eighty submitted pages written--after double spacing).

Also, this is my eighteen thousandth post!
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: JBE's governorship on: December 10, 2016, 04:31:49 am
JBE seems like a fantastic governor. He kicks ass and I'd be honored to vote for him in the 2020 primaries if he runs, though obviously he won't make it anywhere near the general election.

I was pretty excited about him, until I saw he was solidly pro life.

Next!

Yikes.

I mean, it's a pretty clearcut issue on either side. If you think it's murder, it makes sense to prosecute murder. If you don't think it's murder, it's a simple issue of personal freedom and it's deeply disturbing that people are restricting other people as if they were about to commit murder.

Well, sure, but people who think it's murder should be able to understand why people don't, and people who don't should be able to understand why people do. And Devout Centrist seems kind of fixated on the issue in a way that's...odd for a pro-choice man. (The reason I make such a big deal about it is that I found out recently that my biological father left my mother because she wouldn't abort me and while that didn't actually change my views it made me a hell of a lot more vocal about them.)
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Favorite poster who joined in 2011 on: December 10, 2016, 04:24:24 am
I voted for Sanchez because despite his problems I'm personally fond of him and have a lot of hope for him. I voted for TJ and Simfan because they're roundly fantastic posters.

Pre-DPRK apologist TNF would have gotten my vote, but he tragically went off the deep end to the point where even I can't defend him.

I'll note also that while I registered in 2010 and am honored to have won that class I started posting regularly in 2011 and see myself as 'spiritually' part of the 2011 intake.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would the previous poster fit better with the Establishment or the outsider wing on: December 10, 2016, 04:17:12 am
Establishment.

(Again, assume I'm a Democrat.)
16  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: South Korea Parliament Votes to Impeach President Park Geun-hye on: December 10, 2016, 03:09:16 am
So half of Saenuri voted to impeach, give or take.
17  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Kirk Douglas is 100. on: December 10, 2016, 03:07:54 am
FF.

Olivia de Havilland's hit that milestone too, and Vera Lynn will be there in a few months.
18  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which truth actually matters? on: December 10, 2016, 03:03:05 am
Both matter in different contexts, though objective truth is in no way determined by professionals, who are as trapped by their own subjective values and social settings as anyone else.
19  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: I'm switching to the GOP. on: December 10, 2016, 03:01:46 am
Good. All pro-choice people should join the party that does the devil's bidding. Maybe soon we'll have sensible alignment.
Jesus Christ, the cult of the fetus is out in force today.

Oh, come off it, you squamous rake.
I thought it was kinda funny.

I've been in a bad mood because the forum is trying to seriously 'debate' eugenics.
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Bronz Landfill for Absurd, Ignorant, Bigoted and Just Plain Awful Posts VI on: December 10, 2016, 02:56:25 am
Well, you would say that, wouldn't you?
21  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: This is why we can't have a reasonable eugenics debate on: December 10, 2016, 02:15:43 am
Natural selection is eugenics. We just need to stop leftist attempts to redefine strong as weak and beautiful as ugly.

Quite ironic given the implicit leftist endorsement of positive eugenics (at least for such valued traits as promiscuity and indolence)

Not leaving people to starve in the streets for being worthless lazy sluts or the children thereof='positive eugenics,' apparently. Slink off back to /pol/ where you belong, fash.



I would think that taxing those that are better able to plan for the future to fund those that cannot (and providing more money for each additional kid) is the very essence of "encouraging reproduction by persons presumed to have inheritable desirable traits"

The purpose of these policies, you vile piece of sh**t, is to ameliorate the situation caused by the fact that these people are already having these children. Sure, you can argue that the effect of the policies is to tacitly encourage poor women to have 'too many' children--if you assume that the working poor of this country are Hugolian mauvais pauvre who value children and their lives based on how much sweet sweet welfare moolah they're 'good for'. However, arguing that says far more about you than it does about them, and the proposed 'solutions' that eventuate from this type of thinking obscure the real issues at play and also lead to endemic pediatric malnutrition in what is otherwise a first-world country.

One of the biggest actual reasons why poor women have 'too many' children too young and by too many men (no scare quotes around too in these cases because these are actual objective problems; I, the Catholic convert, am certainly not going to argue that teen pregnancy and promiscuity are somehow adiaphora) is that they simply see no reason not too, because unlike their f**ked-up neurotic 'betters' most of them still see children as a blessing and as a light to lives that don't really have much else going for them. Why not have a child at sixteen, if your chance of going to college is equally nonexistent whether you do or not? Why not shack up with another man after a while, if the father of your first child won't and can't marry you because he's in prison for a bullsh**t drug offense? Your proposed answer--'because if you do we will let you and your children die in a heap, you abhorrent slut'--certainly is an answer, but so are 'because you have legitimate hopes and dreams' and 'because public universities are actually affordable these days' and 'because you actually have attainable models of stable married love and family in your community who aren't senescent grandparents who got married back in the old days when the working class was still intact'.

I've been compared to Daniel Patrick Moynihan in the past, and I took that as a compliment because while Moynihan may have had some racist presuppositions and was certainly more of an advocate of 'tough love' in welfare policy than I think is appropriate he also did actually have a vision of an America in which working families of all races could form and stay together and live free from want. He identified the problem as that too many children were being raised without fathers—a debatable diagnosis, and obviously one that’s ~problematic~ by a lot of people’s lights, but one that’s a far cry from saying that it somehow constitutes ‘eugenics’ to not let ‘the wrong kind’ of children (or children born to ‘the wrong kind’ of mothers—WHORES WHORES WHORES WHORES WH, amirite?) have intolerably horrible lives and die miserable screaming deaths.

You cannot kill the poor mothers of America or their children. You can starve them and let them die of preventable diseases and kick them out onto the mean streets to your heart’s content, but there will always be more of them as long as people live free from outright murder, relatively free from forced sterilization, and spiritually free from the cancerous idea that children are at worst crushing burdens and at best optional accessories to be looked into (and if necessary made to order, possibly even using one of these disgusting tarts as a surrogate—it’s not like she’s using her womb for anything that would reasonably be more important to her than the precious Chester Peyton Fairweather IV you selected from his dozens of siblings) once you’re sick of your Bichon Frise. You can bitch and moan about having to support these undeserving ‘takers’ or ‘forty-seven-per-centers’ all the livelong day, but it’s useful to reflect, especially this time of year, that the primal image of the mother and child will still be here when all the best-laid plans of the upper and upper-middle classes are one with Nineveh and Tyre. We should by now have all learned the bitter lesson, that none of us in the end are ‘makers’.

P.S. It’s impossible to know the ultimate destiny of all but a select few people, and I’m certainly not one to despair of the mercy of God on even the most inveterate sinner, but it’s a distinct possibility that your namesake is currently burning in hell for his sins against the American reading public. I hope he is not. But if he is, there would be worse places to put him than the second ditch of the Malebolge, reserved for flatterers. Henry Louis Mencken spent his life flattering and fawning and toadying to a pseudo-intellectual pukwudgie aristocracy half of his own invention, insinuating his readers into his little cabal where they could titter about how superior they were to the ‘boobs’ and anybody so uppity as to try to better herself through something like the Chautauqua Movement. To snowclone a devastating but somewhat unfair observation that Christopher Hitchens, the farce to Mencken’s tragedy, made about Mother Teresa, not only did Mencken think it was beneath him to comfort the afflicted, he didn’t even bother to afflict the comfortable. For your sake, I hope you mend your ways and do not follow after him.
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: I'm switching to the GOP. on: December 10, 2016, 01:35:48 am
Good. All pro-choice people should join the party that does the devil's bidding. Maybe soon we'll have sensible alignment.
Jesus Christ, the cult of the fetus is out in force today.

Oh, come off it, you squamous rake.
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Petition to name the bad post gallary after krazen on: December 10, 2016, 01:24:27 am
X Nathan
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Transition Team/Cabinet Thread on: December 10, 2016, 01:19:26 am
It'll be one of these CEOs. Ugh.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Alternative Elections / Re: Conway vs Mook on: December 09, 2016, 06:15:32 pm
Both are the scum of the earth. Suicide.
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