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1  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban BushOklahoma on: May 26, 2015, 08:46:27 pm
He had some extremely kind words for me the other day. You know, if you want a Democrat board, just say "I want a Democrat board." This isn't DU.  Many of you are simply uncomfortable with people expressing conservative views on the board.  You call them trolls for stating opinions that you disagree with.

It would make it a lot easier if some on this board would just come out and say that they do not wish to have Republicans/independent conservatives on here.

Silencing dissent is the coward's way out.  Why are you afraid to have a debate? No to a ban. The guy has a very big heart.

People's reasons for wanting Bushie gone are intensely personal.
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Was Bill Clinton the best President since Ike? on: May 26, 2015, 08:37:31 pm
I honestly don't give a damn if Serbs died. America comes first to me.

MUH ARBITRARY LINES ON A MAP

Commie, there are things such as cultures, etc. Not just lines on a map. I care about my country - not someone else's. I know you as a Commie, you want to pretend countries, cultures, languages don't exist - you and your little Frankfurt School, America hating views - but no one will ever, ever accept Communism in this country.

Sure, there are such things as cultures. But cultures are not independent or free floating. They are the result of hundreds of thousands of years of intermixing between different peoples, intermarriage between different peoples, and cultural exchanges in general. And they continue to evolve and develop on account of the dialectical processes that govern society at large. A good example of that is the very idea of 'white people', or the 'white race', an identity category you seem to hold dear for reasons I can't comprehend outside of what appears to be a victim mentality on your own part.

The idea of a 'white race' is a new concept that has only developed very recently in historic terms. As late as the 1920s, Southern Europeans weren't considered 'white' by mainstream U.S. public opinion, which helped to influence legislation like the Immigration Act of 1924 and other public policies which sought to exclude them. Fast forward to the 1960s, with the defeat of the left and class politics in general, and we have the construction of a 'white identity' that now includes those very groups excluded in the past, in direct opposition (as a result of, really) the rights revolution and the identity-based struggles therein. Thus the banner of 'white nationalism', the 'white race', and all attempts at a universal white identity are not anything other than an attempt to make sense of the world where the left and labor politics had lost and struggles for recognition on the grounds of identity succeeded. The idea of 'white people' itself has always existed for exclusionary purposes, but the idea of a universal 'whiteness' that you seem to subscribe to here is a very new one. So sure, there are such things as 'cultures', but they're not as static and unchanging as you, or the neo-Nazi scum of the Internet, or their 'left-wing' counterparts, the SJWs, would like to have us believe.

You say that you 'care about your country', but apparently you don't care enough about it to recognize that it was founded in the spirit of liberty, equality, and fraternity of all people, no matter if they have the stars and stripes on their porch, the Union Jack, the Russian flag, etc. The men and women who made this country a land of possibility, a new start, a refuge for the wretched of the Earth, didn't do so as an isolated group. They were part of a worldwide revolutionary tradition beginning with the Dutch Revolt and closing with the abolition of slavery by the heirs of the American Revolution in the 1860s. Thomas Paine famously said 'I have no country to fight for, for I am a citizen of the world', or something to that affect, and there's certainly good evidence to think that the other radicals of the revolutionary period (Thomas Jefferson in particular) were well aware of the fact that theirs was but a small part in a grander movement.

Caring about your country means recognizing that it is not infallible, and that it makes mistakes, and that its leaders are not flawless. Just shouting 'USA! USA! USA!' is mindless and makes you look like an idiot, and not without reason - because the inability to think critically about the problems that your country faces and has faced makes you one.

I don't pretend that countries and languages don't exist. I understand that they do, and as a communist, I want to do what can be done to hasten the overthrow of that system which divides men and women along borders, which denies them the fruit of their labor, and which condemns them to relentless toil, forever and ever. The nation-state is a walled off area for capital accumulation, and in that context, I oppose it. I obviously don't oppose the idea of separate languages or cultures and think that cultural diversity is worthwhile.

I don't hate America, I hate the politico-economic system that produces want and meaningless toil for the vast majority of the populace, while allowing a gilded few to enjoy pleasures that the rest of us can only dream of. In spite of my own tendency to get hyperbolic, I'll be frank and say I don't hate you or anyone else on this site with whom I have differing opinions, because I understand how opinions and ideologies are formulated within the context of society at large. That said, I do despise the system which makes young men hopeless and resentful enough to become the most vile kind of misanthrope, the 'white nationalist', the 'MRA', or whatever garbage you have floating through your head. You can talk about how proud you are to be white all day long, but that won't prevent you from being exploited at work by a small group of parasites that is happy to have you keep talking about how proud you are to be a white man - because it keeps your attention off of them.

I'm not even going to address the bit of cloaked anti-Semitism you have going on there (what, with references to the 'Frankfurt School' and all), but I will say that I agree with next to nothing of the Frankfurt School's sociopolitical analysis, which should be obvious to anyone who has read the varied critique of other left-wingers I post here fairly often. But you're new here (assuming you're a real person and not, say, DevotedDemocrat, whom you seem to be fairly close to in terms of views), so I'll give you a break on that.

I know you hate the idea of people working hard to be successful and think cultures dont matter. Cultural values do matter as they teach people hard work, strive to be more successful then others, respect others, not having kids unless you are willing to take care of them properly.  Thats why I dont like the 1960s as it turned America away from these values . Of course you think Communism works and Ill tell you this it hasnt work.

India for example moved away from Socialism in the 1990s and it made the country far better, same with east germany.

But  Communists always insist of giving their version of system another try but I hope nobody ever gives it another try.

Did you actually read TNF's post?
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: do you hate men? on: May 26, 2015, 04:42:29 pm
Like, as a class?
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How did you celebrate the holiday weekend? on: May 26, 2015, 03:24:37 pm
Naps and TV, except the naps were because I'm sick or something and the TV was Gilmore Girls. In terms of celebrating America, I listened to Rhapsody in Blue and the Iris DeMent version of 'Leaning on the Everlasting Arms', which is sort of relevant to American military and law enforcement history in that it was used in the Coen Brothers True Grit.
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Was Bill Clinton the best President since Ike? on: May 26, 2015, 02:14:53 pm
I'm more interested in the fact that Dazey accused TNF of being 'Frankfurt School'. Clearly he either doesn't know much about the Frankfurt School or doesn't know much about TNF or both because that's hilarious. (On the other hand isn't the Frankfurt School the subject of some sort of right-wing conspiracy theory? Maybe it's in reference to that.)
6  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Do you generally prefer to read fiction or non-fiction? on: May 26, 2015, 03:27:06 am
I find nonfiction easier to digest but fiction more rewarding. I wouldn't say I have an overall preference.
7  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: May 26, 2015, 03:11:17 am
I thought it was clear that this is a thread dedicated to discussing the TV show.  I get tired of sifting through discussions about stuff that only happened in the books, when everybody knows that they've diverged, and many/most of us haven't read them anyway.  Take it elsewhere.

I'm not aware of a separate thread for the books, at least none that's active. It'd be nice to see one started, but since (as you point out) such a thread might not attract enough traffic compared to this one to be viable, and since it would be silly to ban discussion of the books out of hand, just using this thread for both really shouldn't be such a hardship.

And really, if the books provide a clear answer to a question that somebody asked that the show hasn't evinced any interest in addressing one way or another, why not bring up the answer from the books? I mean, it's as good as any other explanation for Balon's absence, isn't it?

Did Balon not die in the show as well? I really thought that he did. I'm thinking that the Greyjoys will return for next season (it seems unfeasible to just ignore them).

I'm kind of hoping the Greyjoys come back because I actually liked that storyline in AFFC, but considering they're doing the Meereenese knot with no Ironborn involvement, I kind of doubt it.

Either Balon's death wasn't mentioned in the show or it was mentioned so offhandedly that both Harry and I forgot that it was specified to have occurred. Admittedly, at first this is true of his death in the books as well.
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - The Whinge Binge on: May 26, 2015, 03:01:53 am
I'm going to a Red Sox game in a couple of weeks.

On a similar note, I've kind of been meaning to get into cricket (to watch if not to play) but almost everybody who's into cricket in my area, or any area I've been in really, is South Asian and I'm worried I'd feel like too much of an outsider. That's before you even get into the subject of gender in sporting communities.

Also my university has an 'extreme croquet' (yes this is real) society that I'm considering getting involved in at some point. But, again, gender in sporting communities.
9  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: May 26, 2015, 02:17:03 am
I thought it was clear that this is a thread dedicated to discussing the TV show.  I get tired of sifting through discussions about stuff that only happened in the books, when everybody knows that they've diverged, and many/most of us haven't read them anyway.  Take it elsewhere.

I'm not aware of a separate thread for the books, at least none that's active. It'd be nice to see one started, but since (as you point out) such a thread might not attract enough traffic compared to this one to be viable, and since it would be silly to ban discussion of the books out of hand, just using this thread for both really shouldn't be such a hardship.

And really, if the books provide a clear answer to a question that somebody asked that the show hasn't evinced any interest in addressing one way or another, why not bring up the answer from the books? I mean, it's as good as any other explanation for Balon's absence, isn't it?
10  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: May 26, 2015, 01:20:38 am
Balon Greyjoy is dead, he had a slip-and-fall on Pyke that in the books was almost certainly engineered by a Faceless Man hired by his awful brother Euron.

If it didn't happen (on or off-screen) in the show, it didn't happen at all.  Some of us don't care what happened in the books.

There's no need to be so truculent about it.
11  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: May 26, 2015, 12:30:48 am
I haven't read the books or any spoilers or anything, but there's like, literally, no chance that a TV show will feature a major character murdering his little girl by burning her alive. Even on Game of Thrones. I wouldn't worry about that at all.

There's a fair chance Selyse burns Shireen on her own.

I will pull my hair out

Yeah. I think the book version of Selyse has a fair case for a defamation suit against Benioff and Weiss as it is without this compounding matters.
12  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: May 25, 2015, 11:26:33 pm
EDITED IN THE HOPES OF COMPLYING WITH JOE REPUBLIC'S EXACTING STANDARDS

Balon Greyjoy is PROBABLY SUPPOSED TO BE dead, WHICH COULD BE BECAUSE he had a slip-and-fall on Pyke that in the books was almost certainly engineered by a Faceless Man hired by his awful brother Euron.
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Was Sherman March to the Sea Justified on: May 25, 2015, 09:43:53 pm
The Revolution was more justified than the Civil War and World War II? Really? I mean, it's not that I've never heard that position before--certain types of libertarians seem very fond of it--but it's always rubbed me the wrong way.
I mean, it's justified unless you think not being able to be represented in your own system of government is a good thing. All things considered, WW2 was still a foreign war where the US had some role in butting into Japan, and the Civil War was partly the fault of the North as well, for ignoring the slavery issue for too long.

I find it strange that people think WW2 was justified but the American Revolution wasn't.

I'm considerably less interested in the legal mechanics of what business a country has in becoming involved in a war than I am in the moral standing of what the respective sides are actually doing or would do if allowed. Also I never said the Revolution was unjustified.
14  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: May 25, 2015, 09:33:52 pm
The show has never exactly been friendly turf for Stannis fans anyway. Not that he's a wonderful person in the books, but the show often seems really reluctant to see what good there is in him.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which song would make a better state anthem of New Jersey? on: May 25, 2015, 09:28:59 pm
Did you think 'Thunder Road' was good for what it was?

I found it a tad dull.

You're wrong, but okay.

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I've heard one Springsteen song I actually did like though (The theme song of The Wrestler.)

That is a good song.

Springsteen sucks.  I would be embarassed if my state ever adopted that hick crap as an anthem.  And the correct answer is Bohemian Rhapsody.

what the christ

also 'Bohemian Rhapsody' is overrated
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Least Favorite County in your state on: May 25, 2015, 04:49:56 pm
It doesn't get much crappier than Norfolk County.
17  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Was Sherman March to the Sea Justified on: May 25, 2015, 04:18:41 pm
The Revolution was more justified than the Civil War and World War II? Really? I mean, it's not that I've never heard that position before--certain types of libertarians seem very fond of it--but it's always rubbed me the wrong way.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party leadership election 2015 on: May 25, 2015, 04:14:06 pm
All in all none of them are PM material with Kendall likely to have the widest appeal among people who didn't vote Labour in either 2010 or 2015.

Is 'being PM material' (and having 'ceilings'), in this sense, really that relevant a concept in the United Kingdom? Serious question.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Alberta General Election - May 5th, 2015 on: May 25, 2015, 01:39:22 am
David Swann seems like a legitimately great guy so I'm sad that he won't be speaker. Agreed that a brand-spanking-new MLA is probably a bad pick.
20  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of Bruce Springsteen on: May 25, 2015, 01:34:54 am
The Boss. Enough said.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather attend Eurovision or Dude Fest? on: May 25, 2015, 01:31:06 am
Is it wrong I don't know what "Dude Fest" is? Should I look it up?

This should give you a pretty good idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgL7Fh6ZjnI
Is the speaker broken or something? What is that dreadful noise?

That's the music. It's not just a bunch of sappy pop ballads like Eurovision.

This year's Eurovision was unusually sappy-pop-ballad-y and not nearly over-the-top and ridiculous enough. All other Eurovision fans of my acquaintance agree with me on this.
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which song would make a better state anthem of New Jersey? on: May 25, 2015, 01:28:26 am
Did you think 'Thunder Road' was good for what it was?
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would You Rather Live In Japan or Italy on: May 24, 2015, 01:32:20 pm
What I meant up above is, basically, that I'd rather live in Kyoto or Hakodate than Milan, but I'd also rather live in Rome or Palermo than Tokyo. By far, in both cases.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which song would make a better state anthem of New Jersey? on: May 24, 2015, 01:29:46 pm
There are certain types of music that, while good, just don't make good Anthem music, for one reason or another. This includes a lot of the music that I like, too. If New Jersey ever adopts a state anthem, it will be a Bruce Springsteen song, almost beyond all reasonable doubt.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What is the ad at the top of your page? on: May 24, 2015, 12:07:27 am
Teach English in Japan
Teaching English In Schools BA Required, Good Salary/Vacations

Something I have considered doing, but I know for a fact that 'good salary' is bullsh**t.
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