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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Ministry of Purity Crimes Self-Reporting Thread on: Today at 02:48:42 pm
The three with which I am familiar all do.  I've worked in Germany and Netherlands and although I have forgotten most of what I have learned, I still remember er, es, sie, etc.  What I don't know about is cultural norms.  We say he, she, and it, but "it" rarely refers to humans.  I tend to call babies "it" and I know others do as well, but once a person is big enough to have an instantly identifiable gender--assuming Nathan doesn't show up here to point out that this is a societal misapprehension and a great cultural wrong in need of correcting, let's agree that by age 2 or 3 it becomes possible with most children to label them "boy" or "girl" with confidence--then we stop calling them "it."  Addressing a university lecture hall, for example, an instructor might say that each student should submit "his or her" exams at a certain time.  

No, not really. I mean, what else are you going to do, realistically?
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek election - January 25th 2015 on: Today at 02:44:02 pm
So, if SYRIZA doesn't hit 37%, do we think we're looking at a SYRIZA minority government, a SYRIZA-led coalition with some other anti-austerity party, or a SYRIZA-led coalition with Vestigial PASOK?

Personally I hope fora a Syriza majority, so that they have the full responsibility for the "re-negotiations" with EU. It's better that there is a clear mandate behind it, and no one else can be blamed for the effects.
Grow up. If the greek people are so bovine as to vote for soggy Euro-communists, then they will both deserve and need to have the colonels back to teach them a lesson.

holy sh**t you're horrible
3  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Was Mary Magdalene Jesus' wife? on: Today at 02:34:30 pm
He's too good for a simple human.

While I believe that Jesus was celibate, and that it's a matter of theological import that He was celibate, this is not a good reason to argue for that position.
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek election - January 25th 2015 on: Today at 12:47:44 pm
I really hope Bruce Springsteen's The River beats out Golden Shower.
5  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: The last movie you've seen thread 2014 and 2015 on: Today at 12:30:41 pm
My issue with Saving Mr. Banks is that it makes The Imitation Game look like Lincoln in terms of historical accuracy, and its particular inaccuracies of choice pretty much constitute character assassination of P.L. Travers.
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Greek election - January 25th 2015 on: Today at 12:25:04 pm
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7  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Female emergent Christian (D) vs. Red pill atheist (R) on: Today at 07:31:14 am
I would obviously vote third party.

And of course, there's literally zero chance that an atheist would be the Republican nominee. The last time that probably happened was 1860 or 1864, and I guarantee you we'll never see it again so long as the Republican Party exists.

Is your uncertainty here meant to reflect the view that some historians have that Lincoln got more religious as the war went on?

In any case I'm not sure I agree, in that while that's certainly true of people who are avowed atheists, I would be very surprised if every Republican nominee since Lincoln has truly in his heart of hearts believed in God. (Not that that distinction makes much practical difference, but...)
8  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: opinion of ted Kennedy on: Today at 07:29:09 am
Ted Kennedy was the most skilled politician out of the three brothers. Jack was the statesmen, Robert was the jesuit priest and Ted was the lion.

I'll be the first to admit he had personal flaws, massive ones. These flaws lead to the death of a young women.

His achievements in congress speak for themselves. Leader for civil rights action from 1960 until his death, introduced AIDs funding in the 80's, more support for disabled americans, cut off funding for the Allende government, pushed through South Africa sanctions, supported women rights, life long advocate for health care reform. Heck there's so many more I can't remember, but Ted Kennedy did a lot of good stuff that the left shouldn't forget.

One of the best senators in the 20th century

I'm pretty sure you mean the Pinochet government.
9  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Do you think democracy can actually work in China? on: Today at 07:27:15 am
Yes, eventually, as well as it can work anywhere. The idea that there are Certain Cultures where folks Just Can't Rule Themselves, as something that renders democracy somehow permanently unworkable always and forever rather than just making it difficult to get off the ground, strikes me as inherently racist.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Harder state for Republicans? on: Today at 06:04:28 am
New York is harder in statewide races but Massachusetts is harder to find winnable local or (especially) congressional races in. Voted New York because of the way the poll question is worded.
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Will Snowstalker and TNF start denouncing SYRIZA after they win? on: Today at 06:03:50 am
12  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Female emergent Christian (D) vs. Red pill atheist (R) on: Today at 03:19:11 am
So, BRTD's dream girl versus a Republican version of freepcrusher, basically?

BRTD's dream girl/BRTD's dream girl.
13  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Poll: When Charles becomes King should Camilla get the title of Queen Consort? on: January 24, 2015, 11:17:18 pm
Other (Camilla should become King).
14  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Was Mary Magdalene Jesus' wife? on: January 24, 2015, 10:08:21 pm
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And she made herself available.

No.

The prostitute who anoints Jesus' feet in Luke was a different woman. The mix-up is a medieval conflation.

Besides which, the idea that that automatically constitutes 'making oneself available' in that sense, or that it's somehow more reasonable than not to expect that Jesus would have taken advantage of that even if she had, strikes me as...concerning, extremely so. (People will point out that 'feet' is sometimes used as a euphemism in Biblical Hebrew, but it's not always, and this part of the Bible isn't even in Hebrew anyway; by the same token, a modern (for instance) German novel describing a character 'riding a horse' would never have anything to do with heroin.) It's not even clear that the character in question was a prostitute, either (not that the 'made herself available' comment would be any less concerning if she were one); all that's said is that she 'lived a sinful life', and even that is only said of her in Luke.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of modern houses on: January 24, 2015, 02:35:32 pm
Horrible Housing. Revival architecture if done tastefully is far superior.

In fairness, that's a pretty big 'if'.
16  General Discussion / History / Re: Forum dems/libs: Would you have supported the American Revolution? on: January 24, 2015, 01:19:31 pm
I probably would have with hindsight, because I'm not sure that England would have developed as it did had the American Revolution not occurred. Without hindsight I don't really know.
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Ministry of Purity Crimes Self-Reporting Thread on: January 24, 2015, 01:13:29 pm
I asked if it was morally wrong of me to feel smug, not if it was wrong of me to feel morally smug.
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: College Major Questions on: January 24, 2015, 01:09:45 pm
I feel like some kind of data-heavy social science might be good for you, particularly since the fact that you're posting on this forum means that you must, on some level, be interested in things like sociology and poli-sci. How data-heavy a social science degree will be seems to vary from university to university at least as much as it does from discipline to discipline.

(Disclaimer: I have a useless foreign language degree and am going to grad school in the not-exactly-remunerative field of theology.)
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Ministry of Purity Crimes Self-Reporting Thread on: January 24, 2015, 01:06:27 pm
Is it morally wrong of me to feel smug for having chosen a graduate program that doesn't require that you take the GRE?
20  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Dilemma of French Muslims on: January 24, 2015, 01:04:06 pm
In my view, a "feminist act" refers to an act that either constitutes a symbolic challenge to patriarchy (which implies active rejection of the patriarchal system rather than merely coping with it) or actively contributes to undermine patriarchy's material or ideological foundations.

I do have a lot of sympathy for the notion that the general principle of using sartorial choices to offend male sensibilities or male entitlement and to deflect or confuse the male gaze can, in fact, constitute just such a symbolic challenge. I'm just not sure that this is in fact a case of that for most people. (I know anecdotally that for at least a few women it is but the plural of anecdote is not et cetera.)

That's an idea I personally have a hard time to swallow, considering my understanding of how patriarchy works. In my understanding, the objectification of women goes hand in hand with the obsession with "modesty", they are two sides of the same coin. On the one hand, there's the idea that women are sexual commodity for men to use, and on the opposite side, the idea that women should stay chaste and preserve themselves from men. I think that is roughly what is meant with the "madonna/whore complex". The genius of patriarchy, so to speak, is that it invented both a thesis and an antithesis, that it has framed the debate in such a way that i can draw strength from both sides of it. Adhering to one side of it to counter the other one strikes me as a futile attempt, at least at the symbolic and ideological level (again, I'm not claiming that it cannot work in certain practical situations).

I've been making a conscious effort to become more praxis-oriented in my understanding of feminism lately, so maybe that's where our difference of opinion on this comes from.
21  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Dilemma of French Muslims on: January 24, 2015, 10:05:06 am
In my view, a "feminist act" refers to an act that either constitutes a symbolic challenge to patriarchy (which implies active rejection of the patriarchal system rather than merely coping with it) or actively contributes to undermine patriarchy's material or ideological foundations.

I do have a lot of sympathy for the notion that the general principle of using sartorial choices to offend male sensibilities or male entitlement and to deflect or confuse the male gaze can, in fact, constitute just such a symbolic challenge. I'm just not sure that this is in fact a case of that for most people. (I know anecdotally that for at least a few women it is but the plural of anecdote is not et cetera.)

What I dislike about that is that women are making as assumption that the man whose gaze they want to avoid has any interest in her, or indeed any woman at all. If you catch my drift Smiley Which is in itself nothing more than an extension of patriarchal thinking.

I think there was a discussion in some school of fiqh or another recently about whether or not gay or asexual men could be treated the same as relatives for these purposes. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall for that conversation.
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Americans Only: Who sould you vote for 2015 on: January 24, 2015, 08:04:54 am
UKIP is disgustingly high for a forum of supposedly knowledgeable people.

Knowledgeable but also self-consciously edgy in many cases.
23  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of Chuck Lorre on: January 24, 2015, 07:55:57 am
What was once said, in my view unfairly, of Stefan Zweig's relationship to Austrian letters I now say of Chuck Lorre's relationship to American television: He is the Pepsi of American television. He just tastes fake.
24  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Dilemma of French Muslims on: January 24, 2015, 07:50:23 am
In my view, a "feminist act" refers to an act that either constitutes a symbolic challenge to patriarchy (which implies active rejection of the patriarchal system rather than merely coping with it) or actively contributes to undermine patriarchy's material or ideological foundations.

I do have a lot of sympathy for the notion that the general principle of using sartorial choices to offend male sensibilities or male entitlement and to deflect or confuse the male gaze can, in fact, constitute just such a symbolic challenge. I'm just not sure that this is in fact a case of that for most people. (I know anecdotally that for at least a few women it is but the plural of anecdote is not et cetera.)
25  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Nationwide precinct map project? on: January 24, 2015, 06:32:27 am
I like how that Democratic area around the 4 corners doesn't really follow state boundaries.

That's the Navajo Nation.
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