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1  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Calvinism/Reformed Christianity AMA on: Today at 08:27:49 am
From Lucy Maud Montgomery's Wikipedia article, which I was reading because I was trying to explain to somebody why some of the later Anne books piss a lot of people off:

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[Montgomery's husband Ewan] MacDonald, a good Calvinist who believed in predestination was convinced that he was not one of "the Elect" chosen by God to go Heaven, leading him to spend hours depressed and starring into space, telling his wife that he wished she and their children had never been born as they were also not of "the Elect", and all of them were going to Hell when they died. MacDonald refused to assist with raising the children or the housework, and was given over to erratic, reckless driving as if he was deliberately trying to get himself killed in a car crash, as perhaps he was.

IMO one of the biggest flaws in Calvinism is that it can lead to situations like this where somebody who struggles with behaving morally concludes that they must not be one of the elect and thus it's pointless to try harder. Even if this doesn't lead the person to utter despair like Reverend MacDonald, it still strikes me as the opposite of something a theological ethics should encourage. How would you respond to this?
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone V: Born Under A Bad Sign on: May 23, 2017, 07:53:31 pm
I almost froze myself solid swimming in Seal Cove outside of what I guess is the recommended season. This is what I get for thinking ME-02 is okay.
3  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Stories of Good vs Good (NOT Good vs Evil, Gray vs Gray, etc.) on: May 22, 2017, 08:41:26 pm
Princess Mononoke.
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone V: Born Under A Bad Sign on: May 21, 2017, 06:06:17 pm
As of earlier this evening I'll be vacationing in Maine for about a week! Most of that time will be in Acadia National Park doing outdoorsy stuff, so I won't be posting much this week.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Recap of last 2 weeks... am I missing anything? on: May 21, 2017, 01:12:07 pm
There's a special place in hell for people like that that exploit people's deaths for partisan purposes.

You mean like Barack 'if I had a son' Obama?

1. It's not Obama's fault that police brutality is a partisan issue.
2. Go to hell.

No you go to hell. Democratic party politicians have long been engaging in 'Bonfire of the Vanities' style political grandstanding over various homocide and other criminal cases. The Trayvon Martin case was just one of the most prominent. You have nothing to say about that but react with sanctimonious  outrage if someone of the right so much as asks questions you don't like about a homocide or other criminal case.

"I" don't think Democratic politicians or activists in general handle these things especially well either, but to use that fact as an excuse to go "BUH BUH BUH MUH OBAMA, MUH DEMOCRATS, MUH BOTH SIDES DO IT" whenever your beloved overlord or his media handmaidens do something unconscionable is outrageous. Most leftists on Atlas know perfectly well that Obama did bad or insincere things without needing some disingenuous brute to point it out to us in knee-jerk defense of his embattled master. Also, it's spelled "homicide".
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Recap of last 2 weeks... am I missing anything? on: May 21, 2017, 11:01:16 am
There's a special place in hell for people like that that exploit people's deaths for partisan purposes.

You mean like Barack 'if I had a son' Obama?

1. It's not Obama's fault that police brutality is a partisan issue.
2. Go to hell.
7  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Best Sci-Fi universe/story (new poll) on: May 20, 2017, 11:43:24 pm
(1) The appeal of Doctor Who is baffling. It's like Pinky and the Brain meets Back to the Future except all of the characters are British and it looks like it was filmed on a camcorder on a budget of a few hundred dollars per episode and left in someone's basement for years until later it looks as like something filmed under the direction of a person who specializes in creating television for toddlers.

The appeal of Doctor Who to me is camp for the sake of camp.
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Kalwejt Foundation for the Promotion of Atlas Hilarity on: May 20, 2017, 10:49:05 pm
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-madness-at-middlebury/

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In the days before Charles Murray appeared at Middlebury College to deliver an address, a senior named Nic Valenti took to the op-ed page of the campus newspaper to inform the community why he refuses to engage with Murray. Excerpts:...

The Middlebury student mob physically attacked Prof. Allison Stanger as she was trying to protect Murray from violence. She had to go to the hospital for treatment. Here’s what she said later on Facebook:...

“I feared for my life.” This is an American university professor — a liberal! — under assault by a left-wing mob...

These people need to be told that part of being an adult is learning to accept that not everyone will agree with you.

Seriously there aren't safe spaces after college.

Cue appropriate music:


9  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Non alcoholic beer with a craft beer taste. Let's replace alcoholic beer. on: May 20, 2017, 08:37:10 pm
To be clear, I wasn't saying that local beer or relatively-less-cheap beer is pretentious, just the term "craft beer" and the weird hipster-but-in-a-self-consciously-masculine-way culture that (at least in my area) surrounds it.

[Looks down at self, looks back at screen] Uh oh...

You don't implicitly assign cultural or moral virtue to your tastes or behavior the way some of these people do (neither does Al, for that matter, at least not in the same way).
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Have you ever had avocado toast? on: May 20, 2017, 08:34:35 pm
No because I don't like avocado on its own, but the ludicrous attempts that are apparently being made now to represent a slightly-more-expensive-than-average fruit spread over toast as the sine qua non of Millennial Decadence almost make me wish I did.
11  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Non alcoholic beer with a craft beer taste. Let's replace alcoholic beer. on: May 20, 2017, 08:28:39 pm
To be clear, I wasn't saying that local beer or relatively-less-cheap beer is pretentious, just the term "craft beer" and the weird hipster-but-in-a-self-consciously-masculine-way culture that (at least in my area) surrounds it.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election, June 8th 2017 on: May 20, 2017, 07:51:48 pm
It occurs to me that perhaps the Conservative manifesto was not entirely well judged in all respects.

I've been tuned out of this election for a couple of weeks. What was the matter with it?
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Charlie Baker on: May 20, 2017, 11:22:52 am
One of the best Republicans, sure, but that's a low bar. HP.
14  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Meiji Restoration? on: May 19, 2017, 09:08:43 pm
Not very high, but yeah, it would be pretty hard to be worse than the Tokugawa.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Nuclear Elmo on: May 19, 2017, 09:04:55 pm
I love it. I had to save it for possible future spamming as well.
16  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Greatest I am on: May 19, 2017, 07:29:03 pm
That said, now that I've seen that he can "beaten" (in the same way that one beats a video game, not in the way that one beats an interlocutor), I'm in favor of keeping him around.

But why? Even if we assume he's not trolling, how is the manner in which he posts not spamming? How does his manner of interacting with other posters not constitute personal attack? The persistent refusal to do anything about a poster who behaves like this other than MAYBE deleting a few of his posts OCCASIONALLY is utterly bizarre to contemplate and, to be frank, I very strongly doubt that he'd be shown nearly so much laxity if it were any other board than R&P to which he were doing this.
17  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Non alcoholic beer with a craft beer taste. Let's replace alcoholic beer. on: May 19, 2017, 12:07:11 pm
"Craft beer" is such a self-evidently pretentious concept I have a hard time believing so many people take it seriously.
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Why do so many posters use the phrase "let the states decide" on: May 19, 2017, 11:48:19 am
Both sides do it.
19  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of George W Bush as a person on: May 18, 2017, 10:28:55 pm
Just because he's not Donald Trump-tier terrible doesn't mean he's a good guy.
20  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: States Where Upper and Lower Legislative Chambers Behave Very Differently on: May 18, 2017, 05:43:43 pm
In MA the Senate is more liberal than the House, but both are solidly Democratic.

How much is that do you think is due to DeLeo's leadership versus Rosenberg's?
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who's your favorite weird Atlas spam-sockmaster? on: May 18, 2017, 05:38:47 pm
Who was the one from four or five years ago whose "tell" was going "BWAHAHA" all the time? Him.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Lieberman emerges as frontrunner for FBI post on: May 18, 2017, 05:31:05 pm
I don't actually hate Lieberman as a person, but I see his career as a Shakespearean tragedy ("Greek tragic heroes are good men, Shakespearean tragic heroes could have been" and all that) and would welcome his appointment to a toxic position by Trump as the final act of that tragedy.
23  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Jesus seems to hate some things. Do you? Is hate good? on: May 18, 2017, 05:28:00 pm
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I certainly wouldn't want to be a Gnostic Christian if it makes one this much of an arrogant, insulting blowhard.

So you do not like certainty of thought and a guy that follows the little bit of wisdom in the bible.

Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

Oh well.

Do you correct the foolish thinking of your children and would they hot think of you as an arrogant, insulting blowhard.

Likely yes, child.

Regards
DL

Gratuitously insulting children in the process of correcting them is typically understood to be a form of emotional abuse, so no, if I ever have children, I don't in fact intend to treat them the way you treat other posters.

Good for you, but you have to remember that most theists I correct have help foolish notions for a long time.

If a soft touch was effective, I would use it.

I have had soft friends with loving hearts go with me when they have agreed with my moral views but theist sh**t on them just as much as on me.

When delusional idol worshipers start to heal their dysfunctional thinking, then I will happily just give the facts and they will have the mental capability of shedding their love of their genocidal son murdering prick of a God.

If you want to give me lessons, go ahead.

How would you change the mind of a delusional guy who believes that some guy in the sky is God and even though he murders children and babies, that God is still a nice guy?

Regards
DL

 

...I'd gently try to convince people of my beliefs if they'd expressed openness to hearing about it, but be fine with them continuing to hold their existing beliefs if they hadn't or if it didn't work, like a normal f**king person in a tolerant society?
24  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Greatest I am on: May 18, 2017, 02:33:26 pm
Bump. He's spamming multiple threads at once. Is there seriously nothing we can do about this guy?
25  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Jesus seems to hate some things. Do you? Is hate good? on: May 18, 2017, 02:32:14 pm
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I certainly wouldn't want to be a Gnostic Christian if it makes one this much of an arrogant, insulting blowhard.

So you do not like certainty of thought and a guy that follows the little bit of wisdom in the bible.

Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

Oh well.

Do you correct the foolish thinking of your children and would they hot think of you as an arrogant, insulting blowhard.

Likely yes, child.

Regards
DL

Gratuitously insulting children in the process of correcting them is typically understood to be a form of emotional abuse, so no, if I ever have children, I don't in fact intend to treat them the way you treat other posters.
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