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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Urk, a town in the Netherlands on: August 29, 2014, 10:09:19 pm
No, you just wish we would self-segregate. I'll gladly grant that that's a less bad sentiment, sure.
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Urk, a town in the Netherlands on: August 29, 2014, 06:09:25 pm
Over-reliance on dictionary definitions to deny claims whose actual meaning is obvious is disingenuous. It's using language purely to distract people rather than as a medium for actual communication. It's essentially the same technique as proof-texting.

As for the rest, I don't think you deserve any plaudits for not being as bad as opebo.
3  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Urk, a town in the Netherlands on: August 29, 2014, 05:50:29 pm
The point isn't dictionary definitions of words but rather ideas and values as commonly understood. You're using sophistic hair-splitting in a transparent attempt to wash your hands of the fact that your attitude towards people who don't share your religious views is aggressively disparaging and at times openly hateful.
4  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Urk, a town in the Netherlands on: August 29, 2014, 05:44:29 pm
Okay, fine. Bigotry, not intolerance. There.
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Ernest on: August 29, 2014, 05:43:41 pm
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVI: Sidejackin' it in the Train Room. on: August 29, 2014, 08:06:37 am
My stomach is kind of rumbling this morning, so I don't know if I'll be able to handle Mexican food for dinner.  I may have to go with the usual American food tonight.

I'm not sure that's much better.
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The t_host1 Institute of Comedy on: August 28, 2014, 10:37:28 pm
The progressive and freedom-loving government of Holland...

When did this happen?
8  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Urk, a town in the Netherlands on: August 27, 2014, 10:30:55 pm
Like all such enclaves, it sounds like a fascinating place for any sociologist, anthropologist, folklorist, or, apparently, linguist, and thus a lot more fun than the HockeyDudes of the world give it credit for, but I wouldn't want to live there.

Fun and interesting are not one in the same, Nathan.  The progressive and freedom-loving government of Holland bestows a legal, drug-infused orgy upon these people and they would rather sit in and vote for Christian Democratic alliances.  I could only imagine what spending a day here would be like. 

Oh, come now, do imagine it! Don't tell me that hearing about places like this doesn't awaken in you any curiosity about what these people are like, what they hold in their hearts or what those hearts thrill to, what a day there is like, what they do do to enjoy themselves, what they believe (beyond the technically correct but boring and surface-level answer 'they're orthodox Calvinists'), how they understand their lives, what parts of those lives fulfill them or fail to fulfill them? Don't tell me that the process itself of discovering what 'fun' is for the people of Urk doesn't, itself, seem fun to you?

No, it really doesn't, sorry to say. 

Fair enough, I guess.

Nathan would you ever like to visit Colorado City, Arizona?

What Mung Beans said.
9  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Urk, a town in the Netherlands on: August 27, 2014, 10:04:04 pm
Like all such enclaves, it sounds like a fascinating place for any sociologist, anthropologist, folklorist, or, apparently, linguist, and thus a lot more fun than the HockeyDudes of the world give it credit for, but I wouldn't want to live there.

Fun and interesting are not one in the same, Nathan.  The progressive and freedom-loving government of Holland bestows a legal, drug-infused orgy upon these people and they would rather sit in and vote for Christian Democratic alliances.  I could only imagine what spending a day here would be like. 

Oh, come now, do imagine it! Don't tell me that hearing about places like this doesn't awaken in you any curiosity about what these people are like, what they hold in their hearts or what those hearts thrill to, what a day there is like, what they do do to enjoy themselves, what they believe (beyond the technically correct but boring and surface-level answer 'they're orthodox Calvinists'), how they understand their lives, what parts of those lives fulfill them or fail to fulfill them? Don't tell me that the process itself of discovering what 'fun' is for the people of Urk doesn't, itself, seem fun to you?

hmmm...like Boris you probably actually WOULD find attending an Ingress event to be rather fascinating.

Have I ever directly claimed otherwise? I'm pretty sure I've actually asked you to explain more about Ingress on at least a couple of occasions in the past.

Yeah but I kind of understimated how much. I'll make sure to post some pics from Minneapolis September 6!

Mind you, I'm not as interested in Ingress players as I am in weird religious enclaves, but go ahead.
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Urk, a town in the Netherlands on: August 27, 2014, 09:55:56 pm
Like all such enclaves, it sounds like a fascinating place for any sociologist, anthropologist, folklorist, or, apparently, linguist, and thus a lot more fun than the HockeyDudes of the world give it credit for, but I wouldn't want to live there.

Fun and interesting are not one in the same, Nathan.  The progressive and freedom-loving government of Holland bestows a legal, drug-infused orgy upon these people and they would rather sit in and vote for Christian Democratic alliances.  I could only imagine what spending a day here would be like. 

Oh, come now, do imagine it! Don't tell me that hearing about places like this doesn't awaken in you any curiosity about what these people are like, what they hold in their hearts or what those hearts thrill to, what a day there is like, what they do do to enjoy themselves, what they believe (beyond the technically correct but boring and surface-level answer 'they're orthodox Calvinists'), how they understand their lives, what parts of those lives fulfill them or fail to fulfill them? Don't tell me that the process itself of discovering what 'fun' is for the people of Urk doesn't, itself, seem fun to you?

hmmm...like Boris you probably actually WOULD find attending an Ingress event to be rather fascinating.

Have I ever directly claimed otherwise? I'm pretty sure I've actually asked you to explain more about Ingress on at least a couple of occasions in the past.
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone II - Less Boring, More Whoring on: August 27, 2014, 09:47:21 pm
Grad school orientation is in like nine hours for me.
12  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Opinion of this statement on: August 27, 2014, 09:45:34 pm
It's a false equivalency. A better use for this comparison would be for Viagra or something.
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Urk, a town in the Netherlands on: August 27, 2014, 09:40:13 pm
Like all such enclaves, it sounds like a fascinating place for any sociologist, anthropologist, folklorist, or, apparently, linguist, and thus a lot more fun than the HockeyDudes of the world give it credit for, but I wouldn't want to live there.

Fun and interesting are not one in the same, Nathan.  The progressive and freedom-loving government of Holland bestows a legal, drug-infused orgy upon these people and they would rather sit in and vote for Christian Democratic alliances.  I could only imagine what spending a day here would be like. 

Oh, come now, do imagine it! Don't tell me that hearing about places like this doesn't awaken in you any curiosity about what these people are like, what they hold in their hearts or what those hearts thrill to, what a day there is like, what they do do to enjoy themselves, what they believe (beyond the technically correct but boring and surface-level answer 'they're orthodox Calvinists'), how they understand their lives, what parts of those lives fulfill them or fail to fulfill them? Don't tell me that the process itself of discovering what 'fun' is for the people of Urk doesn't, itself, seem fun to you?
14  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Urk, a town in the Netherlands on: August 27, 2014, 09:23:50 pm
Like all such enclaves, it sounds like a fascinating place for any sociologist, anthropologist, folklorist, or, apparently, linguist, and thus a lot more fun than the HockeyDudes of the world give it credit for, but I wouldn't want to live there.
15  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Government social program for low income families regarding automobiles on: August 27, 2014, 07:02:41 pm
I know, and I agree. The person I thought might be (disingenuously as always) making that claim was AggregateDemand.

I said non-cash benefits are inappropriate. I avoid the tragedy of the plebs altogether by adhering to modern economic virtue of decentralized decision-making.

That isn't the only thing you said in this thread.
16  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Government social program for low income families regarding automobiles on: August 27, 2014, 05:48:01 pm
Obviously transportation policy needs to take into account the needs of people who live in sparsely-populated or far-flung areas, and obviously most of those people need and will continue to need individual vehicles. To pretend that this somehow means that people who do live in densely-populated areas shouldn't be enabled and encouraged to rely primarily on mass transportation is chimerical.

That wasn't what I was saying, for the record. I just thought that the idea that public transportation alone isn't the solution to the this issue which seemed implied by previous posts. It's part of the solution but there are vast swaths of lower-income Americans who will not be helped by it and their needs should also be taken into consideration when dealing with transportation-enabling policy.

I know, and I agree. The person I thought might be (disingenuously as always) making that claim was AggregateDemand.
17  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Government social program for low income families regarding automobiles on: August 27, 2014, 02:01:20 pm
Obviously transportation policy needs to take into account the needs of people who live in sparsely-populated or far-flung areas, and obviously most of those people need and will continue to need individual vehicles. To pretend that this somehow means that people who do live in densely-populated areas shouldn't be enabled and encouraged to rely primarily on mass transportation is chimerical.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: IA: Suffolk: Ernst, Braley tied on: August 27, 2014, 01:51:43 pm
The best thing for Ernst is that undecideds skew older and are less likely to approve of Obama.

This is the opposite of what the PPP poll showed, isn't it?
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Can you vote in the 2014 Senate elections? on: August 27, 2014, 01:50:56 pm
Yes, for Ed Markey.
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Teddy Kennedy, 5 years gone on: August 26, 2014, 09:22:42 pm
45 years ago a woman drowned at Chappaquiddick. The other big boozy, well, didn't.

You're not original, even within this thread.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Teddy Kennedy, 5 years gone on: August 26, 2014, 08:14:40 pm
Off the top of my head, Kennedy accomplished or was associated with accomplishing immigration liberalization, the Americans with Disabilities Act, and SCHIP/CHIP.
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Zephyr Teachout (D-NY) on: August 26, 2014, 05:10:53 pm
23  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Yet another "Who's your favorite atheist?" poll on: August 26, 2014, 12:56:51 pm
Vonnegut in a walk (normal).
24  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Doctor Who - Series 8 on: August 26, 2014, 01:21:45 am
Classic Moffat Doctor Who - a succession of gimmicks threaded together by innuendo, ridiculous characters and general strangeness. What's more, it appears that the incredibly-incompetent-not-at-all-frightening-yet-somehow-considered-to-represent-the-gold-standard-of-villainy Daleks will be making yet another appearence next time round. I mean, going back to this episode, is the programme's name 'Doctor Who' or 'Madame Vastra', because, you know, it was looking like the latter for much of it Tongue.

I completely agree. I'm appalled that he wasn't wearing a gharish costume or resorting to pop culture cliches. His assistant didn't do enough screaming and this episode was only what, 75 minutes long? I was expecting this to last at least four weeks. Not one single quarry shot either. I don't know why I pay my license fee. It's insulting.

'Good eras of Doctor Who are all alike*, but every sh**tty era of Doctor Who is sh**tty in its own way.'

N.B. I'm pretty sure I don't agree with Cassius's reasons for being down on the Moffat era. I like Madame Vastra, and Daleks are less overused than they were under RTD.

*Obviously this isn't actually true.

EDIT: Capaldi is brilliant as always.

For me, Moffat get's sh@t on undeservedly, but so too did RTD. It seems part of the territory Smiley

Eras and even individual seasons of this show tend to look better to me in retrospect than while they're happening or while I'm first discovering them. And I'm aware that this probably counts as a cognitive bias.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How would you like to be buried? on: August 26, 2014, 12:58:47 am
Pine box.
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