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1  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: If the above poster ran for President, what would be his best state? on: Today at 03:34:56 pm
Rhode Island.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: vandals destroy michael brown memorial less than 24 hours after it is dedicated on: Today at 03:23:28 pm
The idea that no one that has ever committed a crime (especially one that is not very harmful in the grand scope of things--it's not like the guy was a serial killer) deserves to be memorialized by his friends and family is insane and horrible.

There's a good case for the idea that the family of someone whose actions took away the friends and families of countless others - Lubitz, Tsarnaev, etc. - should have the decency to mourn far away from the victims of their loved ones' murders.

That's not the case here, though.

Exactly, in the privacy of the family members' homes. Not out in public subtly trying to have the memorial become a blatant reminder to others in the community of the constant controversy.

...no, no it's not 'exactly'. That is the opposite of what Ray Goldfield was saying. There is a line between a probable petty criminal who died under suspicious and controversial circumstances, and people who did things that are actually worthy of the kind of above-and-beyond-the-call-of-duty discretion on the part of the bereaved that you're calling for here. It is not, in this case, a fine line. It is a big, fat, glow-in-the-dark line. Also, is what you're accusing the bereaved of subtle or blatant? It can't be both.
3  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Women ministers and religion on: Today at 03:04:46 pm
our scriptures was written down....3 hundreds years after the death of Christ.

No.

Okay collected

That was a long process that, yes, ended in the fourth century. But it needs to be remembered that the people who eventually controlled the process were interested both in support for their theological presuppositions and in using the texts with the longest and most legit histories, the ones that were at the fewest degrees of separation available from the events that they discussed. This is why it's disingenuous to point to the end of the process of compiling the Biblical canon as the only or most important part.

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and "edited".

Less than you might expect. That was one of the laundry list of problems people had with Marcion, actually.

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But most or even maybe all have been written by people who never meet Christ. 

As is often the way, yes.
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of New Brunswick, NJ on: Today at 02:18:09 pm
I'd actually consider Mercer County and the northernmost tip of Burlington County (Bordentown, Chesterfield) the least 'Either New York or Philly'-affiliated part of the state. It's less that it's not connected to either and more that it's connected to both in a way that can be hard to separate out--not least because of connections within that area; North and South Jersey do not divide cleanly at Crosswicks Creek.
5  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Women ministers and religion on: Today at 02:09:26 pm
our scriptures was written down....3 hundreds years after the death of Christ.

No.
6  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: PAPOY vs. the gay steel mill in that one episode of The Simpsons on: Today at 11:24:01 am
We work hard. We play hard.
7  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Women ministers and religion on: Today at 10:52:59 am
It's not clear whether the early church as described in the Book of Acts and the epistles had women as bishops and presbyters--it depends on how we relate those functions to the function of an 'apostle'--but multiple Pauline epistles make explicit reference to deaconesses.
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather live in Oklahoma or New Jersey? on: April 24, 2015, 06:38:40 pm
In between early childhood (Hill Towns/southern Vermont) and college (Amherst) I spent quite a few years in South Jersey. It has its charms, it really does.

What would you consider South Jersey's charms?  And I don't really consider the shore to be South Jersey.  The shore is the shore.

I rarely went to the shore anyway. It was nice when I did, but it was really just once every year or two.

Wawa. The Pine Barrens. There's a je nais se quoi to the specific form that suburbanization takes in (parts of) Burlington and Camden Counties, although whether I liked that or hated it really depended on my mood. Something about the overall scope of the place is different from North Jersey--I wouldn't dream of describing it as 'laid-back', but it's less overwhelming, possibly because Philadelphia as a center of gravity is more manageable in scale than New York City. Yankees suck, so being on Phillies turf instead was nice. 2008 was particularly fun in that respect. 2009...less so.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of New Brunswick, NJ on: April 24, 2015, 04:04:10 pm
HC, but I'm probably being unfair because my most memorable experience of it was a truly awful Rutgers campus tour when I was trying to figure out where to transfer to in 2010.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather live in Oklahoma or New Jersey? on: April 24, 2015, 08:57:43 am
In between early childhood (Hill Towns/southern Vermont) and college (Amherst) I spent quite a few years in South Jersey. It has its charms, it really does.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: vandals destroy michael brown memorial less than 24 hours after it is dedicated on: April 24, 2015, 08:32:53 am
Come to think of it, am I the only one who has a difficult time understanding why killing a cop is considered so uniquely transgressive and supremely evil?

Cops are supposed to accept danger. They put their lives on the line so the rest of us don't have to; it's what they do. One would expect them to encounter mortal peril more frequently than the general population.
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election - May 7th 2015 (The Official Campaign Thread) on: April 24, 2015, 08:26:01 am
Can somebody explain why UKIP seems to be targeting the areas around the Thames Estuary? What is it about this area that's so (relatively) amenable to them? For some reason I'd previously been under the impression that their greatest strength was in the West Country.
13  General Discussion / History / Re: Was there more progress from 1890 to 1950 than 1950 to 2010? on: April 24, 2015, 05:57:34 am
I'm not sure what I think of the idea of 'more progress' as something measurable, but subjectively, from a social history point of view, I think I'm in agreement here. A definition of modernity that only lasts for forty-six years is pretty weird (I'm reminded of your construction of a single 'Japanese Golden Age' comprising the entire Meiji, Taishō, and Shōwa eras), but finessing a subdivision of 'high modernity' or 'peak modernity' corresponding to the lost world of the early twentieth century would perhaps not be amiss. (Although a search indicates that the term 'high modernity' is usually used, when it is used, to refer to the sociocultural environment of the early Cold War, so perhaps something else would be better.)

The 'Victorian Internet' idea isn't perfect, but in its basics it's I think a better model for expositing the history of telecommunications than the sort of feverish quasi-utopian understanding of computing that's so popular these days.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What Is the Above Poster's "Type"? on: April 24, 2015, 05:46:58 am
Trick question! You're asexual and don't have a "type".

That's not necessarily how it works. I was dating someone as recently as a month ago, we just weren't [Inks]ing.

*SKIP*
15  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of goths on: April 24, 2015, 05:45:45 am
Depends. Are we talking Bauhaus goths or My Immortal goths?
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of 'Safe Space' policies on: April 24, 2015, 04:52:04 am
Marokai's more or less right here. These policies exist for entirely legitimate reasons and not having such spaces would create problems for people for whom they genuinely would be needed, but the potential for abuse is massive, obvious, and really difficult to do anything about. Voted Freedom Policies mostly because Horrible Policies was winning so heavily.

Even assuming that having sex with a drunk woman is equivalent to rape

Leave now and never come back.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: vandals destroy michael brown memorial less than 24 hours after it is dedicated on: April 24, 2015, 04:47:47 am
Attempted cop killers do not deserve a memorial. Vandals will be idiots, but I have no sympathy. Sorry.

Your evidence?

The 3 forensic reports conducted by DOJ/Missouri/Independent investigator that backed up Ofc Wilson? Seriously? You're still in denial that this guy charged at the cop?

Even if Brown was an 'attempted cop killer', he was an inept enough one that it hardly justifies people going out of their way to wreck up a memorial.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: MA: Suffolk: Gov. Baker with 70% approval rating on: April 24, 2015, 04:43:43 am
Baker is doing most things right to remain a popular moderate governor, but it's unlikely that numbers this good will hold up once the actually difficult decisions and fights--which are inevitable, even for somebody like Baker with a generally conciliatory personality--start happening. Even if the approvals don't go down much, the disapprovals will inevitably rise. Off the top of my head, entirely aside from the objections that the unions have to his transportation proposals, people involved in mental health and addiction care are starting to turn against him because of the effect that proposed budget cuts would have on the state's Recovery Learning Community system.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: MA-Gov: Healey out on: April 24, 2015, 04:38:20 am
Wulfric's comments in this thread are honestly a little worrying. Even if literally everybody reasonable approves of the job Baker is doing--which isn't the case--they might still like somebody else better, and it's absolute nonsense to say that they shouldn't be given the opportunity to make that determination.

I'm never comfortable with uncontested elections. And yes, this includes the Democratic Congressmen in this state who keep winning by 95% margins over scatterings of write-ins.
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Alberta General Election - May 5th, 2015 on: April 24, 2015, 04:29:21 am
If the PCs lose then either the NDP or Wildrose win.  That government, if NDP, will likely last one term (possibly two) thanks to how right-wing Alberta is.  That means that likely either the PCs or Wildrose win next.  No governing party in Alberta has ever returned to government.  That means that the PCs are probably (the probability of this increases depending on how much seats they lose) going to go in a slow tailspin until they die.  A Wildrose government?  I don't want that.  Correct my presumptions here if they are wrong, but that's why I'm currently backing Jim Prentice.

Truisms about an area's political history are always true until they're not. A polity has always done something until it doesn't and has never done something until it does.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What Is the Above Poster's "Type"? on: April 24, 2015, 04:24:48 am
Old Hollywood vibe, but not too sultry. Works from home.
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of TERFs on: April 23, 2015, 10:19:36 am
I voted. I doubt there's any mystery as to how.
23  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: World Religion Map by National Subdivision on: April 23, 2015, 09:34:15 am
As I understand it there's still a strong cultural/social assumption in Scandinavia that one will be baptized into the relevant Lutheran state church and use it for weddings and funerals, even if one is otherwise thoroughly irreligious.
24  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Prince Edward Island vs Idaho on: April 23, 2015, 06:54:20 am
I like Anne of Green Gables more than Napoleon Dynamite.
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK General Election - May 7th 2015 (The Official Campaign Thread) on: April 23, 2015, 02:58:31 am

With that name I'm thinking less 'cult' and more 'fifties B-movie that missed out by not being quite bad enough for Mystery Science Theater 3000'.
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