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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Charles Krauthammer - People now believe that healthcare is now an entitlement on: March 28, 2017, 06:01:39 pm
the worst parts of Obamacare (sex-neutral premiums, kids staying on their parents' plan until 26, pre-existing conditions)

lol, love it.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Adam Schiff 2020? on: March 28, 2017, 03:41:30 pm
I like that he's from Framingham.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Eharding Landfill for Absurd, Ignorant, and Deplorable Posts VI on: March 28, 2017, 03:36:22 pm
We'd probably run into similar problems if it was renamed after Famous Mortimer, so how about a poster just bad enough to deserve the title but not bad enough that he'd risk being banned. Maybe Santander.
And Santander isn't a bad poster.

Santander is a great poster and a terrible poster at the same time. He has a niche and fills it well.
4  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Rural Left vs Urban Right on: March 28, 2017, 02:27:15 pm
Democratic Party by far, though I'd probably be to their left on the environment and would probably still swing GOP at points if the candidate is left enough on the economy.

But I'm not going with a right-to-work, deregulation lovin', pro-euthanasia party as my default.
5  General Politics / Book Reviews and Discussion / Re: What Book Are You Currently Reading? on: March 28, 2017, 12:39:37 pm


Is this the one where Balaguer is a sympathetic character?
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Charles Krauthammer - People now believe that healthcare is now an entitlement on: March 28, 2017, 12:36:11 pm
Tyranny's warm embrace is always tempting.

Weren't you a "wet" on health care the last time we discussed this, like, four days ago?
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Eharding Landfill for Absurd, Ignorant, and Deplorable Posts VI on: March 28, 2017, 12:04:47 pm
Anyway, why is someone with a job going on political tirades at 3:30 in the morning.

And not just any job but a HIGH FLYING JOB in the PRIVATE SECTOR at that!
With not one but TWO Ivy League degrees! We BUMS are wasting this man's precious time!

And it's ANTI-INTELLECTUAL to think Ivy League universities are overrated relative to other universities, dontcha know!
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of non-swing voter on: March 28, 2017, 12:03:25 pm
Hardcore republicans do not support abortion, gay marriage, environmental protection, etc.  Moderate Republicans/Democrats do... we just find your socialism more deplorable than social conservatism.

So you have the worst worldview it's socially acceptable to hold, minus the gay marriage and environmental protection support. Congratulations. But we already knew that.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Non Swing Voter's name on: March 28, 2017, 12:01:05 pm
Going to go live my life in the real world.

Good. It's working hours and your boss is probably pissed.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of non-swing voter on: March 28, 2017, 11:41:55 am
I do think it's kind of amusing how NSV just defected from the Democrats recently, and is already using the most shopworn right-wing clichés. Muh SAFE SPACES, muh FREE STUFF.

I pretty much always felt that way.  I know it's hard for you to believe as you are on the extreme socialist left, but there are people who are only mildly aligned with one party.  I was never a hardcore democrat.  I was 60/40.  Now I am 60/40 in reverse after getting a wider perspective of how deplorable the democratic base is.

I understand that perfectly well, but you're talking like a hardcore Republican, not a 60/40 Republican. RINO Tom is probably somewhere around a 60/40 Republican.
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of non-swing voter on: March 28, 2017, 11:38:25 am
I do think it's kind of amusing how NSV just defected from the Democrats recently, and is already using the most shopworn right-wing clichés. Muh SAFE SPACES, muh FREE STUFF.
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Kalwejt Foundation for the Promotion of Atlas Hilarity on: March 28, 2017, 10:44:21 am
"Your own paycheck" is only your own because the State has built institutions that makes it possible for social parasites like you to accumulate wealth at the expense of everybody else. The State giveth and the State taketh away.

I love it when someone who wants free stuff calls someone who works 60-70 hours a week a "social parasite" - you are the definition of pathetic.

Have you considered unionising?

Pretty much not funny/amusing in any way.  Socialists have such a weird sub-culture.

Do you really need to comb every thread for any mention of you or any joke people make about you? Isn't it working hours right now?

Just happened to see this here, there was a good shot as you post about me in a significant number of threads... weird obsession buddy.

But on that topic... here's a response that's actually funny, to the same post... 

"Your own paycheck" is only your own because the State has built institutions that makes it possible for social parasites like you to accumulate wealth at the expense of everybody else. The State giveth and the State taketh away.
Suffice it to say that I totally disagree. This type of thinking is creepy, to be honest.

...I don't get it.
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Frank Rich: "No Sympathy for the Hillbilly" on: March 28, 2017, 10:38:42 am
Oh, now you're doing the "mocking people for being emotionally/morally sensitive" thing. You're so cliché.

It's ironic when a group of people that hurls insults so rapidly can be so morally sensitive that they are almost unable to cope with reality.

I didn't say anything about being "unable to cope with reality", I said I felt guilty about something I occasionally do. This is how having a conscience works. I can't believe you're making me spell this out.

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Perhaps it is this disturbing sensitivity that causes them to lash out and not function like the rest of society that goes to work every day like normal people.

Shouldn't you be at work right now? It's eleven-thirty on a weekday.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Kalwejt Foundation for the Promotion of Atlas Hilarity on: March 28, 2017, 10:35:39 am
"Your own paycheck" is only your own because the State has built institutions that makes it possible for social parasites like you to accumulate wealth at the expense of everybody else. The State giveth and the State taketh away.

I love it when someone who wants free stuff calls someone who works 60-70 hours a week a "social parasite" - you are the definition of pathetic.

Have you considered unionising?

Pretty much not funny/amusing in any way.  Socialists have such a weird sub-culture.

Do you really need to comb every thread for any mention of you or any joke people make about you? Isn't it working hours right now?
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Institute of Funny Partial Thread Titles You've Seen on Atlas on: March 28, 2017, 10:34:44 am
Today at 10:01:22 am
in Re: Kid is Lou Gehrig Re...
by Chairman (with limited role) of the 2020 Trump campaign

The word that's cut off does actually go where I was expecting it to, but the rest of the title makes it less interesting.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Frank Rich: "No Sympathy for the Hillbilly" on: March 28, 2017, 10:29:00 am
Oh, now you're doing the "mocking people for being emotionally/morally sensitive" thing. You're so cliché.
17  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Is doing evil a necessity of life? on: March 28, 2017, 10:25:59 am
I used to think doing evil was inevitable, and got into a really embarrassing argument with a poster called jmfcst about it once. Now, I think it's theoretically possible to get through life without committing major sins, but I still don't think almost anyone actually does (which doesn't absolve people of the sins they actually do commit).
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Kalwejt Foundation for the Promotion of Atlas Hilarity on: March 28, 2017, 10:16:19 am
"Your own paycheck" is only your own because the State has built institutions that makes it possible for social parasites like you to accumulate wealth at the expense of everybody else. The State giveth and the State taketh away.

I love it when someone who wants free stuff calls someone who works 60-70 hours a week a "social parasite" - you are the definition of pathetic.

Have you considered unionising?
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bloomberg slams liberal "culture of censorship" in Ivy League on: March 28, 2017, 10:14:48 am
Why have we bumped this thread? But since we have, I'd hazard that DFB wouldn't be as strident as he was three years ago.

I probably wouldn't be as contemptuous towards Rod Dreher, whom I'm pretty sure I used to confuse with Ross Douthat.
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bloomberg slams liberal "culture of censorship" in Ivy League on: March 28, 2017, 10:13:56 am
Why was this a thread that anybody thought needed bumping?
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Frank Rich: "No Sympathy for the Hillbilly" on: March 28, 2017, 10:07:45 am
Talking about these people like they're hardcore conservatives is a bizarre predilection of many Democrats. Sure there are plenty of conservatives and partisan Republicans in any state, but the Obama-Trump voters who swung these states really aren't a part of that. They would be quite easy to swing back, but it doesn't sound like you're interested in doing that.

It's really remarkable how what will benefit [party that just lost] the most going forward is always whatever best suits the political views of the person talking, isn't it?

     How does this suit my political views? The kinds of things that Democrats would propose to bring these people back into the fold are not policies I would be particularly enthused by.

I'm agreeing with you and being snide about NSV, not being snide about you.

Yes my posts always deserve snide treatment from this board because I don't worship white working class voters and socialism.  Love the "tolerant progressives" here. 

Your posts deserve snide treatment because you're openly contemptuous of the idea that you have any moral responsibilities towards other people and expect those other people, or at least the subset of other people that posts on Atlas Forum, not to be cross with you for it.

When you walk past a homeless person on the street do you give that person a dollar every time?

Most of the time, yes, and when I don't I feel guilty about it.

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Do you owe that person a moral responsibility to look out for them?

To at least some extent, yes. If I don't "owe that person money" directly then I at least owe it to them to support a form of social organization that stands some chance of not leaving them homeless. I should point out that the state that's done the best job of combating homelessness is Utah, so it's not even a matter of left-wing politics or policy as such, simply of being willing to look for meaningful solutions to these problems in the first place.

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The fact that people like you simply cannot accept that not everyone agrees with universal healthcare or socialism must be hard for you, considering the majority of the population disagrees with socialism.  I guess this is like a socialist safe space.

1. You're aware that we have a number of respected right-wing posters, right?
2. You can't just shout "MUH SAFE SPACE MUH SAFE SPACE MUH SAFE SPACE" and expect most people under the age of, say, thirty-five to agree with you that it's a devastating Sick Burn. This is true even of people who don't think "safe spaces" are a great idea in the first place.
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Non Swing Voter's name on: March 28, 2017, 12:42:07 am
The name is grimly fitting because in a sane political system he'd be a hardline, unbudgeable right-wing voter. I also think he's a useful reminder that "why won't the side I disagree with vote in muh Best Interests?" really isn't the rhetorical magic bullet everybody assumes it is, and is no substitute for voting based on sound moral principles.

Again, implying it is outrageous to want to keep 50% of my paycheck.  This is why the progressive movement is nothing more than self-entitled nonsense.

I...I can't be "self-entitled" if my family is one of the ones that'll be taxed more.
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Eharding Landfill for Absurd, Ignorant, and Deplorable Posts VI on: March 28, 2017, 12:36:38 am
NSV, the observations (if they can be called that) that you're using as points against making sure those not fortunate enough to be affluent Smiley suburban Smiley Smiley FFs Smiley Smiley Smiley like your gentle self don't die in a heap for lack of easily provided health care could just as easily be used as points against unrestrained capitalism as a system. One man's modus ponens is another's modus tollens.

I know, it's so outrageous to lobby for the system we've had in place for a generation as opposed to dramatically altering it, which is the normal position here.

I'm glad Reaganomics has worked well for you, but you must have a very odd window on the world if you think it's worked for the country as a whole.

In any case, I wasn't calling anything "outrageous". I was just making an observation.

I get that some people may have "sunk" (a lot on this board it seems) in a "sink or swim" economy, but I don't agree with your observation that the "country as a whole" is doing bad.  The fact is that capitalism works, it has made this country the richest country in the world... period...  And it has increased the standard of living for the vast majority of the population.  Even lower middle class people arguably live better than upper middle class people did 20 years ago.  They have better access to technology, etc. 

But why ought people to "sink"? You can't just concede that there are people who are leading miserable lives because of our socioeconomic system in the same breath as acting mortified at the suggestion that something should be done about it.
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Frank Rich: "No Sympathy for the Hillbilly" on: March 28, 2017, 12:34:41 am
Talking about these people like they're hardcore conservatives is a bizarre predilection of many Democrats. Sure there are plenty of conservatives and partisan Republicans in any state, but the Obama-Trump voters who swung these states really aren't a part of that. They would be quite easy to swing back, but it doesn't sound like you're interested in doing that.

It's really remarkable how what will benefit [party that just lost] the most going forward is always whatever best suits the political views of the person talking, isn't it?

     How does this suit my political views? The kinds of things that Democrats would propose to bring these people back into the fold are not policies I would be particularly enthused by.

I'm agreeing with you and being snide about NSV, not being snide about you.

Yes my posts always deserve snide treatment from this board because I don't worship white working class voters and socialism.  Love the "tolerant progressives" here. 

Your posts deserve snide treatment because you're openly contemptuous of the idea that you have any moral responsibilities towards other people and expect those other people, or at least the subset of other people that posts on Atlas Forum, not to be cross with you for it.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Eharding Landfill for Absurd, Ignorant, and Deplorable Posts VI on: March 28, 2017, 12:28:08 am
NSV, the observations (if they can be called that) that you're using as points against making sure those not fortunate enough to be affluent Smiley suburban Smiley Smiley FFs Smiley Smiley Smiley like your gentle self don't die in a heap for lack of easily provided health care could just as easily be used as points against unrestrained capitalism as a system. One man's modus ponens is another's modus tollens.

I know, it's so outrageous to lobby for the system we've had in place for a generation as opposed to dramatically altering it, which is the normal position here.

I'm glad Reaganomics has worked well for you, but you must have a very odd window on the world if you think it's worked for the country as a whole.

In any case, I wasn't calling anything "outrageous". I was just making an observation.
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