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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Is this the most progressive decade since the 1960's? on: Today at 03:25:46 am
No because 'progressive' isn't a term with any objective definition or any realistic chance of acquiring one.
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should wild animals be banned from circuses? on: July 31, 2015, 09:31:52 pm
Has anyone else here read Nights at the Circus by Angela Carter? I maintain that it's criminally underrated amidst her body of work.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Republicans Are Too Angry About Gay Marriage on: July 31, 2015, 04:24:43 pm
Republicans actually need to keep being 'hateful' to save voters interest. People must have an alternative to liberal agenda. Because otherwise America will turn into a totalitarian country then where only one opinion prevails.

Same-sex marriage is the law of the land.

Republicans now offer the wrong sort of conservatism -- superstition, crony capitalism, and militarism. If anything, much of the conservative tradition (the part that respects rational thought, insists that the common man have a stake in the system, that probity in business dealings be the norm, that the government not choose winners and losers, that pushes thrift and self-development, and that abhors war as a budget-buster) has gone to the Democratic Party.

Democrats are winning parts of the electorate that demographically fit the Republican Party at least as late as the 1980s. Don't be fooled: if President Obama could get such large parts of the Asian and Hispanic vote, then he was picking up some voters with some conservative and traditionalist tendencies.    
Crony Capitalism: Well the top 1% have taken home more of this countries income growth under Obama than they did under Bush W.

Government chooses winners and losers-Remember the energy company "Solyndra" the company "The Obama Administration" gave money to? Well they went broke.

What parts of the electorate are the Dems winning that the GOP used to win as recently as the 1980's? "Postgraduate" is the only demographic I can think of along with "Asians". I just think Asians started voted Dem big time after Newt Gingrich/Republican Revolution of 1994 because the Republicans started to become too Southern for their electoral tastes.


Until recently, as Hispanics joined the middle class they started voting Republican. That is over.

Several "Asian" groups used to be won reliably on anti-Communist appeals. That is over. Even Korean-Americans have drifted D. North Korea is the butt of many political jokes among liberals. Communist insurgencies have faded into irrelevance in most "Asian" communities. 

"Southern right-wing" means white privilege in practice, support of fundamentalist Christianity, and anti-intellectualism. No Asian group has a vested interest in any of those.
Well Hispanics do still vote more Republican the more money they make. Just look at Romney's Hispanic Vote % go up the more money that Hispanics make.

True about Republicans getting Asian groups to vote for them on anti-Communist appeals pre-1994.

Asians don't need white-privilege the average Asian Household take home 10,000 more dollars a year than the average White Household. True Asians aren't interested in evangelicalism.

'True Asians'?
4  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: The Big City Areas vs The Rest of the State Round 1: New York on: July 31, 2015, 04:35:32 am
My two best friends both live upstate, and I find the city hectic and uninviting.
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should wild animals be banned from circuses? on: July 31, 2015, 04:02:11 am
What shua said. I know enough about elephants, specifically, to know that using them in circuses is unjustifiable.

Is this primarily because of how they are kept/transported in between shows?

Partly, but also because of how (healthy, wild) elephants are socialized and the extent to which they need a specific herd structure to be psychologically sound.
6  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Orthodox Jew stabs six at Jerusalem Pride...again on: July 30, 2015, 10:07:47 pm
I don't defend these attacks but these gay activist are behaving in a manner similar to pussy riot by trying to provoke a religious community. Tel Aviv is very gay friendly just as America and Europe have gay friendly cities. Jerusalem is none as a very religious city for both Jews, Muslims, and Christians. It's not like Jerusalem persecutes gays but the pride parade is going out of it's way to get a response and reaction. Religious people and Secular people can coexist if they have their own communities but they don't need to impose their values on each other. Gay activist and feminist want the whole world to accept their values.

If they can put up with sharing Jerusalem with one another then they can put up with sharing it with LGBT people.
7  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Cuckservatives on: July 30, 2015, 10:06:43 pm
no
8  General Discussion / History / Re: Adolf Hitler: left or right? on: July 30, 2015, 09:43:02 pm
According to tumblr, he was 'someone who believed very deeply in inequality and privilege'.
9  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Summary of political beliefs on: July 30, 2015, 03:38:30 am
I'm going to be using TNF's rubric for issues, with some modifications. Leaving out foreign policy because my views on it are kind of all over the place; leaving out electoral issues and government for when it's not four-thirty in the morning.

Political philosophy. Christian Left. I consider most of my politics to derive directly or indirectly from the practical implications of my religious beliefs, which are Catholic (so far within the Anglican tradition) with a grounding in an understanding of the nature of being that owes some debt to Jewish theology. If I hold a political position that doesn't in some way develop from my religious beliefs I see that fact as a problem to be fixed. My very broad-strokes ideal for society is one in which people freely come to a point where they can uphold and respect personal and cultural traditions, and in which those traditions are constituted and put into practice in such a way as to produce just social outcomes. This means that I will sometimes come to a socialist position through conservative-influenced thinking, or to a conservative position through socialist-influenced thinking. Classical liberalism has relatively little influence on my thought since I conceive of the freedom through which people mediate their interactions with justice and tradition as a positive ontological entity that entails responsibilities of its own, rather than just an absence of coercion.

Social Issues

Abortion: I currently lack the mental and emotional acuity to develop a clear and specific position on this, beyond the standard religious-Left combination of strong personal disapprobation and lack of desire to see it banned.

Drugs/Legalization: Drug possession or use should not itself be a criminal offense. Drug addiction is a moral issue but one with sociological and medical roots and sociological and medical solutions. 'Soft' drugs should probably not be illegal in any aspect. Harder drugs should remain illegal to produce and sell. I haven't developed a preference for how to produce or obtain whatever drugs may be necessary for addiction treatment.

Euthanasia: My feelings on this are somewhat similar to my feelings about abortion, but with stronger personal disapprobation. I voted against the legalization of physician-assisted suicide in my state in 2012.

Gay Rights: Obviously I support my own rights. I support pretty much every actual or proposed expansion of LGBT rights currently under serious political discussion with the exception of heterologous fertility treatments, but I'm beginning to get a little wary of some of the extremes of LGBT rhetoric and gender theory.

Marriage and Family: I reject as chimerical and pernicious the idea that marriage and family life are inherently or fundamentally oppressive forces. I also reject the idea that the married couple (and optionally children)--absent extended and collateral relations, friends, mentors/protegees, associates, well-wishers, et cetera--stands alone as the acme of human interpersonal relationships. Many of the problems plaguing the modern family unit could be solved by increased emphasis on and support for extended families and other such social connections.

Gun Control: The revolutionary-socialist position on this that TNF articulates would be appealing if I thought that it had any real chance. In reality America's experience with guns has been almost wholly negative. This includes guns in the hands of those who in mainstream political discourse are seen as the people who 'should' have them, law enforcements officers and (somewhat less overwhelmingly negatively) soldiers.

Immigration: I support freedom of movement. The current tension that exists between immigrant labor and native-born American labor in terms of regulations and wages is a function of the prevailing economic system and ought to be ameloriated or erased upon its reform or elimination.

Prostitution: The Nordic model is the most sensible and compassionate response to the problem of prostitution.

Separation of Church and State: I'm less than entirely wedded to this in theory, but in practice it is necessary at least until such time as existing religious institutions can be purged of elements and influences that cause them not to live up to their full promises. The demand that you hear in some corners of American liberalism these days to 'tax the churches!' makes no sense under the terms of the current US tax code except as a way to penalize and discriminate against religion.

Scientific Research: I'm opposed to transhumanism for religious reasons; I honestly, really don't care about the space program; I'm interested in scientific research mostly for purposes of disease cures (the basic limitations of the human form emphatically not being understood as 'disease'), environmental preservation, and energy production.

Smoking Bans: I support prohibitions on smoking in most public places, and fail to see why anybody with a more than superficial concern for the health and welfare of the public wouldn't. If secondhand smoking didn't exist or hadn't been as conclusively demonstrated to be a problem then my views on this would be different.

Affirmative Action: I support affirmative action for what it is, but I have a lot of sympathy with the position that the scarcity of educational placements and jobs that creates the need for it is artificial and should be reduced or eliminated by any means necessary. I support the full socialization of higher education and radical reduction or elimination of tuition fees.

Economic Issues

Taxation: As long as liberal capitalism obtains as the prevailing economic system I advocate making taxation as progressive as possible. To this end I'm especially opposed to regressive sales, value-added, and 'sin' taxes; in the latter case this is not the right way to legislate moral behavior and only succeeds in further punishing people who are for the most part already in marginal and perilous situations.

Education: I support free, public, and up to a point mandatory education from kindergarten through university, and view the perceived conflict between giving students a well-rounded humanities education and preparing them for 'careers'/'the real world'/STEM fields (let's be honest about what we mean here) as a destructive illusion. Students should be taught both general and specialized knowledge, and should be specifically taught habits of information acquisition and study, as to be able to pursue their interests independently both alongside and after their formal education. Religious conviction should be the only permissible reason not to place a child in a local public school.

Environment: I'm deeply emotionally invested in conservation, and see it as a profound moral responsibility.

Social Security: Social Security is insufficient for its purposes and, far from being privatized, should be expanded into a genuine, respectable pension system.

Unions: Both public and private sectors should be unionized to the greatest extent possible, and unions should be politically active and advocate democratic socialist policies.

Health Care: Full, universal, nationalized health care, including mental and dental.

Energy: The energy sector should move away from fossil fuels towards almost literally anything else possible.

Agriculture: Agricultural policy should be focused on minimizing environmental impact, breaking the backs of big agribusiness conglomerates and encouraging smaller-scale farming, and discouraging (certainly not banning, probably not even rendering socially unacceptable, but discouraging) the consumption of large amounts of meat. I don't know enough about agriculture to know whether or not this is a 'pick two of three' situation, but if it is, I'd prioritize the first two.
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should wild animals be banned from circuses? on: July 29, 2015, 10:43:16 pm
What shua said. I know enough about elephants, specifically, to know that using them in circuses is unjustifiable.
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Lief Reservoir of Simple Truths and Smart One-Liners on: July 29, 2015, 07:44:54 pm
They sucked the mystery out of it.  Probably the effect of baby boomers moving into leadership positions in the school system during the 90s.  "Make everything fascist but pretend to be their best friends!" said every Baby Boomer ever about Millennials.
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas After Dark vs. Upworthy on: July 29, 2015, 07:05:32 pm
Write-in: A short, sharp shock.
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: New Left Watch on: July 29, 2015, 03:03:41 am
Does the fact that on tumblr recently I saw somebody in all seriousness describe Hitler as 'someone who believed very deeply in inequality and privilege' count for this thread?
14  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: A&P supermarket chain files for Chapter 11 and will likely fold on: July 28, 2015, 04:20:32 pm
RIP that one terrible short story from tenth-grade English class

I remember reading that too! Wasn't it Updike?

Yes, unsurprisingly.
15  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion: Cameron 2.0 on: July 28, 2015, 02:54:54 am
Wasn't he semi-important in the Scottish devolution process?
16  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Favourite Taylor Swift album on: July 27, 2015, 07:33:51 pm
1989 is obviously the fashionable answer for the 'best' but I'm fondest of Red and I'm glad to see I'm not alone in that.
17  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: A&P supermarket chain files for Chapter 11 and will likely fold on: July 27, 2015, 07:32:32 pm
RIP that one terrible short story from tenth-grade English class
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is "The Group" a bit more poignant now? on: July 27, 2015, 04:40:53 pm
This post has always been worthless, unfunny sh*t, and I don't see how Tweed's antisocial behavior could possibly make it any better.

In fairness (to BRTD, not Tweed), I'm not convinced BRTD considers it 'funny'. It's written in such a way that somebody with a specific type of limited emotional range might find it tragic.
19  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Can one be an atheist and believe in an afterlife? on: July 27, 2015, 02:06:56 pm
I've never seen any that do, but theoretically yes. However, since atheists rely on science more that anything, there's nothing to prove an afterlife.

You're thinking of metaphysical naturalists, which not all atheists are.
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Japanese Foreign Policy under PM Shinzo Abe on: July 27, 2015, 02:03:28 pm
The thing is that defending Japan's existing interests when they're threatened is already perfectly allowed within the scope of Article 9. Stuff like limiting the defense budget to one per cent of the total was just convention. But it's clear that that's not what Abe truly wants. If it was, he wouldn't be forcing through laws that are unconstitutional, he wouldn't want to change the constitution to legitimate that post facto, and he certainly wouldn't have any interest in, as CrabCake points out, turning his country into an arms dealer.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is this a left, center-left, centrist, center-right, or right wing forum? on: July 27, 2015, 01:54:11 pm
Generically 'liberal' overall but with this weird hawkish tendency.
Hawkish? Have you seen what they say about McCain and Graham?

Abe Shinzo's foreign policy has a net FP rating.
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Abe Shinzo on: July 27, 2015, 02:16:05 am
With the exception of his horrible (and politically idiotic) war crimes denial/apologism and certain related authoritarian tendencies, a massive FF in light of both his domestic and foreign policy.

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is this a left, center-left, centrist, center-right, or right wing forum? on: July 27, 2015, 02:09:55 am
Generically 'liberal' overall but with this weird hawkish tendency.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: POST HERE IF YOU WANT TO BE CONSIDERED AS A MOD on: July 27, 2015, 01:33:16 am
I'm aware that I'm a considerably more controversial poster than I used to be, but I've been on the forum for about four years now and I care a lot about it. I was president of a university club for a year, during which time its membership more than doubled. My moderation style would be somewhat forceful but I'd try my utmost not to railroad conversations or behave capriciously. I'd dearly appreciate your consideration.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is "The Group" a bit more poignant now? on: July 26, 2015, 11:02:35 pm
No. If anything, it's less 'poignant'.
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