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1  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Will Drudge finally release the Whitey Tape tonight?!? on: October 02, 2012, 09:38:09 pm
This certainly isn't the only time Obama has used his "blackified accent" in public. Hell, I've seen Hillary Clinton use one in front of black crowds... it's goofy and pretty phony but it isn't a big deal.

As for the actual comments he made, I can't see how anything he said would come off as controversial except with people who were already voting against him.


They are controversial, but you're right, they won't come off as such.  It just proves that Obama has a chip on his shoulder and wants to make people pay.  It doesn't matter what group it is, he will exploit it for his own gain.  I must say it's quite smart though, easy to form a mob when all you do is talk about how people are taking advantage of them and they need to get vengeance.  

Everything about this guy is pure vengeance and rage.  I'm not quite sure that it isn't some sort of divine justice that we have him as president destroying the country.  Our sin of slavery comes back on us or more importantly, our chickens coming home to roost.

The very fact that he is president makes blacks equal to whites in this country.  It is an affirmation of the American dream.  There is no unbalancing, no place that a black man or woman can't reach.  Overt insitutional racism ceased to exist the moment he became president.  At that moment, the president should have used his opportunity to lift blacks out of poverty by ending this us against them talk, ending programs that make them dependent on government for every need, ending affirmative action and cracking down on gang violence in this country.  I mean for heaven's sake, you have his own city, Chicago, immersed in the worst gang violence in the country.  His former chief of staff, Rahm Emmanuel, is mayor and barely lifts a finger by saying "please just don't hurt the kids".  Obama could have created fundamental change in this country.  If that man were conservative, if he used his talents God gave him for good instead of evil, he would have succeeded.  He would have united this country in a way it hasn't been since the 80s.

LOL at the idea that the country was united in the 80s...

...as to the rest of your garbage... Roll Eyes
2  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: The Unskewed Polls Thread on: October 02, 2012, 07:22:57 pm
Given the recent Drudge video controversy, and the dramatic turn in the race, I will have to modify my numbers to take this tape into account.


Alaska 13 - 85.2
Alabama 9 - 90.2
Arkansas 11.7 - 86.4
Arizona 18.5 - 80.3
California 32.2 - 66.5
Colorado 23.8 - 75.2
Connecticut 29.3 - 69.7
DC 64.6 - 34.5
Delaware 33.3 - 65.8
Florida 23.1 - 76.3
Georgia 17.4 - 81.8
Hawaii 42 - 56.8
Iowa 23.8 - 74.9
Idaho 6.3 - 91.9
Illinois 32.6 - 66.1
Indiana 18.2 - 80.7
Kansas 12.6 - 86.1
Kentucky 13.8 - 85.1
Louisiana 13.2 - 85.8
Massachusetts 32.8 - 65.9
Maryland 32.7 - 66
Maine 29.9 - 68.5
              Maine - 1st CD 33.1 - 65.4
              Maine - 2nd CD 26.9 - 71.3
Michigan 26 - 72.5
Minnesota 25.8 - 72.4
Missouri 19 - 79.8
Mississippi 12.6 - 86.6
Montana 18.2 - 79.6
North Carolina 20.9 - 78.4
North Dakota 15.6 - 82.9
Nebraska 12.1 - 86.6
               Nebraska - 1st CD 15.2 - 83.5
               Nebraska - 2nd CD 19.3 - 79.2
               Nebraska - 3rd CD 1.9 - 96.9
New Hampshire 26.1 - 73
New Jersey 28.3 - 70.5
New Mexico 26.8 - 71.9
Nevada 24.9 - 73.8
New York 34.9 - 64.4
Ohio 24 - 74.7
Oklahoma 6.7 - 92.9
Oregon 28.6 - 69.4
Pennsylvania 25.5 - 73.3
Rhode Island 37.1 - 61.5
South Carolina 16.3 - 82.8
South Dakota 15.6 - 83
Tennessee 14.4 - 84.5
Texas 15.1 - 84.4
Utah 12.1 - 95.8
Virginia 23.2 - 75.9
Vermont 40.3 - 58.1
Washington 29.2 - 69.2
Wisconsin 25.2 - 74.1
West Virginia 15.2 - 83.3
Wyoming 5.8 - 92.5

NATIONAL PV 24.1 - 74.8




3  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: If its the Whitey tape... on: October 02, 2012, 04:39:20 pm
And Drudge just went there...flashing lights... Roll Eyes
4  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: If its the Whitey tape... on: October 02, 2012, 04:34:45 pm
No impact. Joke story.
5  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / The Unskewed Polls Thread on: October 02, 2012, 04:30:35 pm
Since there have been many people complaining about the accuracy of the polls this year, I thought a thread where we can share the "real numbers" would be a good exercise for everyone.

Personally, I think President Obama is being shortchanged by the media pollsters because they want to give this race an aura of competitiveness.

This is how I see the race as of today (I adjusted the 538 numbers based on my view of recent poll bias):


Alaska 43 - 55.2
Alabama 39 - 60.2
Arkansas 41.7 - 56.4
Arizona 48.5 - 50.3
California 62.2 - 36.5
Colorado 53.8 - 45.2
Connecticut 59.3 - 39.7
DC 94.6 - 4.5
Delaware 63.3 - 35.8
Florida 53.1 - 46.3
Georgia 47.4 - 51.8
Hawaii 72 - 26.8
Iowa 53.8 - 44.9
Idaho 36.3 - 61.9
Illinois 62.6 - 36.1
Indiana 48.2 - 50.7
Kansas 42.6 - 56.1
Kentucky 43.8 - 55.1
Louisiana 43.2 - 55.8
Massachusetts 62.8 - 35.9
Maryland 62.7 - 36
Maine 59.9 - 38.5
              Maine - 1st CD 63.1 - 35.4
              Maine - 2nd CD 56.9 - 41.3
Michigan 56 - 42.5
Minnesota 55.8 - 42.4
Missouri 49 - 49.8
Mississippi 42.6 - 56.6
Montana 48.2 - 49.6
North Carolina 50.9 - 48.4
North Dakota 45.6 - 52.9
Nebraska 42.1 - 56.6
               Nebraska - 1st CD 45.2 - 53.5
               Nebraska - 2nd CD 49.3 - 49.2
               Nebraska - 3rd CD 31.9 - 66.9
New Hampshire 56.1 - 43
New Jersey 58.3 - 40.5
New Mexico 56.8 - 41.9
Nevada 54.9 - 43.8
New York 64.9 - 34.4
Ohio 54 - 44.7
Oklahoma 36.7 - 62.9
Oregon 58.6 - 39.4
Pennsylvania 55.5 - 43.3
Rhode Island 67.1 - 31.5
South Carolina 46.3 - 52.8
South Dakota 45.6 - 53
Tennessee 44.4 - 54.5
Texas 45.1 - 54.4
Utah 32.1 - 65.8
Virginia 53.2 - 45.9
Vermont 70.3 - 28.1
Washington 59.2 - 39.2
Wisconsin 55.2 - 44.1
West Virginia 45.2 - 53.3
Wyoming 35.8 - 62.5

NATIONAL PV 54.1 - 44.8
6  Election Archive / 2012 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: LA-SMOR: Romney by only 6 on: October 02, 2012, 02:49:17 pm
This is one of those class of polls where the percentage for the losing candidate looks pretty reasonable, but where it seems that somehow about a third of the winning candidate's eventual supporters inexplicably said they weren't sure.

It's because Southerners don't like Mitt Romney.
7  Election Archive / 2012 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / RI: WPRI/Fleming: Obama+24 on: October 02, 2012, 02:35:07 pm
http://www.wpri.com/generic/elections/polls/campaign-2012-exclusive-poll-results-sept-2012?chartid=6
8  Election Archive / 2012 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: VA-Roanoke College: Kaine leads by double digits on: October 02, 2012, 02:32:41 pm
Seems legit, though undecideds are too high.
9  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Biden admits to burying the middle class on: October 02, 2012, 02:27:55 pm
Anytime there is a misstep by the Romney campaign, you see folks on here jumping all over it.
Anytime there is a misstep by the Obama Campaign, the same folks dismiss it as irrelevant and desperation by the Republicans.

I expect the responses to this throughout the next few days to reflect my above statement.

Except there won't be days worth of responses because this isn't a big deal.
10  Election Archive / 2012 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: TX-Texas Lyceum: Romney close to 60 on: October 02, 2012, 02:12:33 pm
Not buying this especially with Obama at 45% approval.
11  Election Archive / 2012 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: LA-SMOR: Romney by only 6 on: October 02, 2012, 02:10:57 pm
Obama is winning 22% of the white vote which is excellent news! Smiley

...and he's winning white Democrats!

Moving this state to lean Romney.
12  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Obama campaign uses down syndrome woman to attack Romney on: October 01, 2012, 04:27:19 pm
Exposing a down syndrome woman is despicable and pretty low for the Obama campaign.  When Sarah Palin was against abortion of her daughter Trig, alot of Liberals lambasted her for a choice.  I find that hypocritical and desperate.

Are you f-cking serious? Do you think people with Down's Syndrome don't have opinions and don't want to be heard? You want them in a little bubble so they are 'protected'? She is a woman with opinions and she can voice them in an advert if she wants. It's her choice.

Moron.
They have opinions, but to use them for political gain is disgusting.  I have nothing against against programs that help the disabled or people with down syndrome.  Do you expect them to make rational reasoning or critical thinking when it comes to politics?  No

Give me a break, take back your moron comment.

I beg your pardon? Do you realise how offensive what you just wrote is?
Whats more offensive is Obama catering to the lowest denominator to gain more votes when he has a poor record on the economy, over 8% unemployment and 26 million unemployed or under employed.  If Romney ever pandered to a specific audience,  alot of the media would be on him.

Romney has repeatedly pandered to specific audiences...LOL

...47%
...brownface at Univision...
...
What else would he of done, sit around and do nothing?  Expect a Obama blowout, right?

Well that's pandering, so you just made my argument for me... Roll Eyes
13  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Is Gary Johnson the best Libertarian candidate in the party's history? on: October 01, 2012, 04:25:28 pm
Isn't a real libertarian and won't win more than .5% of the vote, so a definite NO.
14  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Obama campaign uses down syndrome woman to attack Romney on: October 01, 2012, 03:57:31 pm
Exposing a down syndrome woman is despicable and pretty low for the Obama campaign.  When Sarah Palin was against abortion of her daughter Trig, alot of Liberals lambasted her for a choice.  I find that hypocritical and desperate.

Are you f-cking serious? Do you think people with Down's Syndrome don't have opinions and don't want to be heard? You want them in a little bubble so they are 'protected'? She is a woman with opinions and she can voice them in an advert if she wants. It's her choice.

Moron.
They have opinions, but to use them for political gain is disgusting.  I have nothing against against programs that help the disabled or people with down syndrome.  Do you expect them to make rational reasoning or critical thinking when it comes to politics?  No

Give me a break, take back your moron comment.

I beg your pardon? Do you realise how offensive what you just wrote is?
Whats more offensive is Obama catering to the lowest denominator to gain more votes when he has a poor record on the economy, over 8% unemployment and 26 million unemployed or under employed.  If Romney ever pandered to a specific audience,  alot of the media would be on him.

Romney has repeatedly pandered to specific audiences...LOL

...47%
...brownface at Univision...
...
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Politico: Sign of trouble for GOP in Arizona Senate race? on: October 01, 2012, 03:55:05 pm
I don't think this is within reach. I wouldn't be surprised if Carmona underperformed Obama.
16  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: If Obama loses, what's to blame? on: September 28, 2012, 04:53:41 pm
You would be clever...except that the American people seem to agree with my worldview...last I checked Obama was 50 points ahead of your candidate... Roll Eyes

There's a fundamental difference between "Obama leading my candidate in the polls" and "the American people agreeing with your worldview"; namely, your worldview appears to be this:



And I don't see the majority of the American people agreeing with that.

HAHAHA

No. I recognize that Obama is human and has made mistakes and isn't perfect. However, Mitt Romney and the Republican clowns are far, far worse and they don't hold a candle to Obama. Your candidate is also worse because he's a heartless Randian.

And the majority of people agree with me because Obama is leading.
17  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Bloomberg Poll: George W. Bush has higher favorables than Mitt Romney on: September 28, 2012, 04:50:33 pm
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The fact that Bush's favorables are now that high disgusts me.

He was a good president. :b:

LOL
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ralph Nader is unsurprisingly still a giant douchebag on: September 28, 2012, 04:49:37 pm
Obama's not a war criminal in my opinion but he has been aggressive and Dubya-like in many ways.  He's certainly not the kumbaya President libs wanted.

He's exactly the president I wanted and nothing like Bush Jr. Jrwas all about sending hundreds of thousands of ground troops in at great cost, both financial and human. Obama is like a surgeon, sending in high tech drones as needed and finally getting Osama bin Laden, in Pakistan, a place the GOP was too afraid to touch.

High tech drones which have killed tons of innocent individuals, including targets wrongly accused, also including at least one American citizen.

Your point?

The point is that 1st degree murder is bad.

LOL.

If you consider that 1st degree murder, pick up a law dictionary.

Premeditated and willful killing of an innocent man is 1st degree murder, and state-sanctioned death without trial/jury/lawyer/judge is a very large step towards fascism.

So you're saying that Obama is premeditating and deliberately ordering the murder of the innocents who are among those killed in these strikes?

That's about as crazy a conspiracy theory as I've hear...


The NY Times is known for being prone to conspiracy theories, yes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

Was killing Bin Laden first degree murder?

People are killed all the time in this manner because we have to protect this country. Deal with it, buddy.
19  Election Archive / 2012 House Election Polls / Re: IA-04: King slightly ahead in 2 polls on: September 28, 2012, 04:47:41 pm
PPP has had very friendly Republican results this cycle and in the 2010 cycle was Republican leaning. Just because all the trolls say PPP is left-wing doesn't mean it is... Roll Eyes

Sorry to bust your sheltered, tree-hugging hippie weedhead hack bubble(hey, since you generalize, I figure you've given up your right to complain if I do it), but PPP are usually the ones that show the Democrats ahead. Accurately, might I add, considering they were the only ones putting out reasonable results last cycle.

At least try, please. I've met better trolls on YouTube.

Listen, believe what you want to believe, but PPP is going all right-wing because they don't want to be perceived as right-wing hacks.
20  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: If Obama loses, what's to blame? on: September 28, 2012, 04:43:24 pm
People like Mondale repulsing normal people who would normally vote Obama.

LOL

You would be clever...except that the American people seem to agree with my worldview...last I checked Obama was 50 points ahead of your candidate... Roll Eyes
21  Election Archive / 2012 House Election Polls / Re: IA-04: King slightly ahead in 2 polls on: September 28, 2012, 04:41:45 pm
How is that push polling? Those questions were asked after the horserace question. And it's a private poll, so PPP may not have even been responsible for writing those questions.

It uses Democrat talking points and rhetoric, and they didn't ask any questions about controversial positions by Vilsack.. The one-sided Ryan budget question and the use of the ideological and euphemistic phrase "a woman's right to choose" are clearly pushing an agenda.  They don't impact the poll on the congressional race if they were asked afterwards, but they are meant to sway the respondents, and the results of those questions themselves are impacted by the push.

LOL. This is a left-leaning push poll?!

That's the best one I've heard all day! LOL

These polls are right-wing hackjobs and you know it. Vilsack is probably ahead 5-7.

...

...

...

PPP is a right-wing hack job?

Welp, that's it. Whatever credibility you had before has officially been flushed down the toilet with the rest of humanity's festering waste. I actually give up.

PPP has had very friendly Republican results this cycle and in the 2010 cycle was Republican leaning. Just because all the trolls say PPP is left-wing doesn't mean it is... Roll Eyes
22  General Politics / Economics / Re: Do Tax Cuts Lead to Economic Growth? on: September 28, 2012, 04:40:30 pm
Not to as much growth as as government spending. The multiplier is smaller because a portion of the extra money people have as a result of the tax cuts will be saved and not spent.
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: MO: Akin could really blow this on: September 28, 2012, 04:39:19 pm
Akin releases that he was arrested at an abortion clinic for an anti abortion protest two decades ago.

Great...now Missouri can elect a criminal to the US Senate...
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ralph Nader is unsurprisingly still a giant douchebag on: September 28, 2012, 04:38:01 pm
Obama's not a war criminal in my opinion but he has been aggressive and Dubya-like in many ways.  He's certainly not the kumbaya President libs wanted.

He's exactly the president I wanted and nothing like Bush Jr. Jrwas all about sending hundreds of thousands of ground troops in at great cost, both financial and human. Obama is like a surgeon, sending in high tech drones as needed and finally getting Osama bin Laden, in Pakistan, a place the GOP was too afraid to touch.

High tech drones which have killed tons of innocent individuals, including targets wrongly accused, also including at least one American citizen.

Your point?

The point is that 1st degree murder is bad.

LOL.

If you consider that 1st degree murder, pick up a law dictionary.

Premeditated and willful killing of an innocent man is 1st degree murder, and state-sanctioned death without trial/jury/lawyer/judge is a very large step towards fascism.

So you're saying that Obama is premeditating and deliberately ordering the murder of the innocents who are among those killed in these strikes?

That's about as crazy a conspiracy theory as I've hear...
25  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Right Loses it: Pseudo-documentary Questions Obama's Birth, Calls Mother a Whore on: September 28, 2012, 04:36:12 pm
I wouldn't use the Daily Beast to accurately summarize a movie.

There were some questions if Obama was a covert agent for the CIA after college, which, if true, I'd actually consider a plus.

Among who? Your fellow right-wing, conspiracy-snorting hacks?
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