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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: opinion of abe beame on: April 11, 2014, 02:40:06 pm
as bad as lindsay. Only there for a term, but the 75 bankruptcy and the 77 blackout was the low point in the citys history.

Of course that was the fault of individual people and not beame himself. But the New York of charred out apartment buildings and graffiti infested subways epitomized his term in office.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / myoclonic jerks on: April 11, 2014, 11:41:55 am
any of you guys ever get those? It often happens in the morning when working on something, typically while reading or on the computer. One becomes tired which is a part of it but before one can go to sleep, they experience a shock in the head that jolts them out of it.

This is why I try to avoid (if possible) 8 AM shifts.
3  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / would this make a good musical/movie? on: April 08, 2014, 11:26:19 pm
I've thought of doing something like this which would portray the 60s/70s in a more realistic and less romanticized way. But it would incorporate themes present in many different movies/plays like "Across the Universe", "Hair", "Pleasantville" and "American Graffiti". It would start out in some typical suburban high school in 1963 or 1964 and feature a bunch of clean cut idealistic youth. The opening theme song would be something corny like "Good Morning Starshine" by Oliver. The musical in this phase would be almost intentionally corny and the kids are typical americana clean cut types. They have lofty/idealistic goals about joining the peace corps and changing the world etc etc. They then meet  for the last time in August before they go their separate ways (a la American Graffiti) and then the film from then on alternates back and forth in chronicling the lives of each of them. The music at first would be corny early-mid 60s music but as time would go on the music would get progressively edgier (ie Pleasantville).

The movie would end when they finally cross paths once again at their ten year reunion in 73 or 74 and by this time their worldviews have become more cynical and nihilistic. They look back on themselves as eighteen year olds and find it interesting how they can almost not recognize their former classmates or their hometown. They see a lot of change in the country that is often negative (unemployment rising, cities burning, end of us supremacy)  but see society as better because of it. The movie ends with a song that is less idealistic than the opening song, but in place has a more deep meaning as opposed to the shallow "good morning starshine"
The closing song could be something like "Dream No 9" by Lennon, "Time" by Pink Floyd or "Ten Years Gone" by Led Zeppelin.
4  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / book/movie "Fatal Vision" on: April 01, 2014, 03:49:28 pm
is there anybody on here who had read the book or watched the movie? I've seen the made-for-TV movie with the guy who plays Lumberg playing MacDonald.

I think it was one of those cases where the defendant himself probably screwed himself over. I don't think he did it, but I think people were too jealous of him - ie a handsome, ivy league educated, golden boy with sort of a JFK/Robert Redford look on him and that's why he went down. He also should have tried to be more friendly with his father-in-law and prevent him from being too suspicious.

What are your thoughts?
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / could the immigration hardliners and the open borders types agree on: March 31, 2014, 02:57:37 pm
on this compromise legislation I would support? The rule would be that all eleven million will be legalized, but  birthright citizenship will be abolished for anyone born after 2015, and all potential legal immigrants after 2015 will be required to take a wonderlic test with a minimum score of 26 necessary to become a citizen.
6  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / opinion of ramzpaul on: March 29, 2014, 11:16:21 am
He has said some nasty things (like how he wants to repeal the 19th amendment) and is sometimes racist, but his sense of humor compensates for it. FV
7  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Hot or Not: Nancy Pelosi (for her age) on: March 28, 2014, 04:48:51 pm
maybe after a dozen beers
8  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / controversial opinion: anyone think that the beatles on: March 28, 2014, 04:47:20 pm
first five albums are (mostly) garbage?
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / i'm starting to think the u.s. should (temporarily) have a foreign person on: March 25, 2014, 09:49:49 pm
come in and rule over our country for a few years. It obviously sounds preposterous, so let me explain. Neither the left or right seems to get things right in the U.S. Its hard for people to assess things because they often have a stake in the system.

So the idea would be to get someone(s)  from another country and have them be the boss for a few years and act as sort of a "jury" on american issues. Most political issues through the American context and through their own lenses and it would almost be an improvement if someone with no allegiances gave some ideas.
10  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Describe the likely political views of the previous hypothetical person on: March 18, 2014, 08:58:27 pm
Race: White
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Religion: Atheist
Occupation: 711 Clerk, aspiring skateboarder
Income: $30,000/Yr
Martial Status: Single, but enjoys the company of fwbs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Music: Zeppelin, Cream, Pink Floyd, Tame Impala, Alice Cooper
Favorite Entertainment: South Park, Family Guy, Howard Stern, Adam Carolla, ManCow
- Also enjoys doing weed, shrooms and acid
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / anyone see the possibility of on: March 11, 2014, 11:08:47 pm
the democrats becoming something along the lines of the Working Families Party and the republicans similar to the Constitution Party?

My theory is that the New Dems and the Republican Main Street Partnership types are atrophying in population or at least being swamped by the "grassroots conservatives" and "community leaders" due to dysgenesis.

In this dystopian future, both parties see each other as victims and the other as the cause of their calamities. Political dialogue almost becomes feral. Turnout improves but not because of an interest in politics per se but because more is at stake and the hope of despoiling the opposition.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / were the Third Way/New Dems more or less on: March 11, 2014, 10:10:03 pm
grown up counterculture types? I had always had this image that a lot of the kids in SDS and similar organizations indulged in the "festivities" of the late 60s and early 70s but my theory is that many of them had a "fall back option" to successful careers in business, law, or whatever and are now living in areas like Westchester County, NY or San Mateo County, CA.

They tend to generally be more supportive of business than some of the DeBlasio types but their continued support for legalized abortion and a disdain for the increasingly prole nature of the GOP keep them with the dems.
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / did Nixon pick Ford as VP with the knowledge that he might have to become on: March 11, 2014, 08:52:45 pm
president?
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / what type of person would you expect these two people to be (primary edition) on: March 07, 2014, 07:08:58 pm
Person A
1960 - Stevenson
1964 - Johnson
1968 - McCarthy
1972 - McGovern
1976 - Udall
1980 - Kennedy
1984 - Hart
1988 - Dukakis
1992 - Tsongas
1996 - Clinton
2000 - Bradley
2004 - Kerry
2008 - Clinton
2012 - Obama

Person B
1960 - Nixon
1964 - Goldwater
1968 - Nixon
1972 - Nixon
1976 - Reagan
1980 - Reagan
1984 - Reagan
1988 - Dole
1992 - Buchanan
1996 - Dole
2000 - Bush
2004 - Bush
2008 - Huckabee
2012 - Santorum
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / why are fundies so obsessed with common core on: March 02, 2014, 06:15:09 pm
?
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Election Results by Congressional Districts, OFFICIAL THREAD on: March 02, 2014, 01:29:26 pm
i have results for 1964 if anyone is interested

I am!

alright. What districts are you interested in?

California 27, Connecticut 4, Pennsylvania 19, Pennsylvania 24 and Tennessee 2   would be good to start.


Two Party Vote (LBJ-Goldwater)
CA 27 56.3-43.7
CT 4 61.8-38.2
PA 19 59.4-40.6
PA 24 67.2-32.8
TN 2 49.5-50.5
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Election Results by Congressional Districts, OFFICIAL THREAD on: March 02, 2014, 01:17:50 pm
i have results for 1964 if anyone is interested

I am!

alright. What districts are you interested in?
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Election Results by Congressional Districts, OFFICIAL THREAD on: March 02, 2014, 11:51:41 am
i have results for 1964 if anyone is interested
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: What happened in Wisconsin? on: February 26, 2014, 10:31:46 pm
combination towards anti-environment attitudes (think lumber industry under attack) and maybe some spillover from MSP exurbs
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: what type of person would you expect these two people to be on: February 26, 2014, 09:59:24 pm
nm
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: what type of person would you expect these two people to be on: February 26, 2014, 09:57:08 pm
when looking at how they voted for president:

Person A:
1924 Coolidge
1928 Hoover
1932 Hoover
1936 Lemke
1940 Wilkie
1944 Dewey
1948 Dewey
1952 Eisenhower
1956 Eisenhower
1960 Nixon
1964 Goldwater
1968 Wallace
1972 Schmitz
1976 Ford
1980 Reagan
1984 Reagan

Very conservative Republican. Residing probably in something like Missouri or Kansas. Most likely Protestant. Unsure of ethnic background.

Person B:
1924 LaFollette
1928 Smith
1932 Roosevelt
1936 Roosevelt
1940 Roosevelt
1944 Roosevelt
1948 Wallace
1952 Stevenson
1956 Stevenson
1960 Kennedy
1964 Johnson
1968 Humphrey
1972 McGovern
1976 Carter
1980 Anderson
1984 Mondale

Very liberal Democrat. Probably resides in Minnesota, Massachusetts, Chicago, or NYC. I'd say probably an Irish Catholic, or maybe a Scandinavian.

Could have gone many ways with the specifics, but these are my best hypotheses.

close enough. Person A I had living somewhere in the midwest where they are far south enough to be tempted to vote for a reactionary or isolationist and far south enough not to be a NPL/Farmer Labor/Prog, but far north enough not to be a dixiecrat. Probably lives in SWMO, East Central IL, Indiana.

person B I had as a liberal jew living in NY and then maybe in SoFl later on
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Politico: How Dems can catpure Dixie (again) on: February 23, 2014, 11:57:43 pm
Yankee, are you suggesting that the problem for Democrats is that they're too fiscally conservative?

I approach the question from the perspective of what I would want as a Democrat and if so, yes definately. A Democratic Party that is bed with a nexus of Wall Street and DC is the definition of oxymoronic.

I still think a Bloomberg type (if he were running as a dem) would do better in the south since he/she would be pro-law/order.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: what's going on in Wisconsin? on: February 23, 2014, 11:46:34 pm
Why exactly does the idea of a polarizing executive seem "third world" to you?

well not third world but more in line with "atypical for a state known for being a tight-knit scandinavian-style state"
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / what's going on in Wisconsin? on: February 23, 2014, 11:40:45 pm
it just seems like a harbinger of future disturbing trends. Wisconsin, at least historically, embodied a civic culture with high turnout (and still does) and many other things with Governors like Bob LaFollette. Moreso, Wisconsin is sill a homogenous state yet is suffering from the kind of schisms that a state like CA, with its widely varied populations, have. The idea of a governor systematically polarizing people into two camps seems very third world to me. Yet the local GOP seems to resemble more and more like it is from South Carolina.

Now this obviously sounds like something coming from a partisan dem. I normally vote dem, but I will admit that the unions and the local dems have their problem - one of which being militancy. I like Ron Kind a lot, but Baldwin, Pocan and Moore seem to be just as ideologically feral as any RW.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: what type of person would you expect these two people to be on: February 23, 2014, 03:39:10 pm
A. Staunch Republican
B. Staunch progressive

but also - where did these people live, what were their ethnic backgrounds, etc?
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