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7676  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: 20RP12 Research Center: Mideast Capital Relocation Poll on: August 06, 2012, 05:59:36 pm
I would not support moving the capital unless a convincing argument can be made in favor.
7677  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE STANDING COMMITTEE: National Security on: August 06, 2012, 03:38:40 pm
I don't see why approving a treaty should take precedent over other foreign policy concerns, and that would be better taken care of by an OSPR amendment anyway.
7678  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 2010 Florida Senate Election on: August 06, 2012, 03:13:43 pm
[1] Kendrick Meek
[2] Charlie Crist
[3] Marco Rubio
[4] Alex Snitker
[5] Bernie DeCastro


Voting for the Democrat, not the 'moderate hero'. Crist is still a Republican, despite having an 'I' next to his name. And I couldn't vote for any modern Republican in good conscience.

Charlie Crist wasn't a Republican even when he had an R next to his name. The only thing Charlie believes in is Charlie.

And teachers, and gun rights, and a woman's right to choose, and same-sex adoption, and air pollution standards, and not having offshore oil drilling, and conservation, and the Everglades, and paper ballots, and reform of property/health insurance, and civil rights, and opposing fraud, and keeping utility rates low, and fighting spam emails, and independence.

Lol
7679  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is Gray Davis unfairly vilified? on: August 06, 2012, 09:33:08 am
Yeah, at least a little. As much as I love Scott Walker, his recall was more understandable than Davis's.

I am a Democrat and I don't even think that. I would love to hear more.
7680  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: California gubernatorial election, 2002 on: August 05, 2012, 11:34:40 pm
Gray Davis in the moment, Camejo in retrospect.
7681  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: California gubernatorial recall election 2003 on: August 05, 2012, 11:33:59 pm
The groper.
7682  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 2010 Florida Senate Election on: August 05, 2012, 11:31:12 pm
1. Meek
2. Snitker
3. Rubio
7683  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: The White House- Napoleon/Kalwejt Administration on: August 05, 2012, 06:06:03 pm
I hereby declare the 2012 US Presidential Election board to be in a state of emergency. Authorities are to take appropriate action and your cooperation is necessary. Thank you.

President Napoleon
7684  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Mideast Voting Booth - Anti-Conscription Compromise Amendment on: August 05, 2012, 04:30:27 pm
AYE
7685  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Mideast Governor ZuWo on: August 05, 2012, 06:17:01 am
Thank you Governor ZuWo! Smiley
7686  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Good Post Gallery on: August 05, 2012, 06:12:18 am
Beet's posts in this thread are f'ing fantastic: http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=156803.msg3373766#new

Beet is really shining strong in that thread. Of course, it goes right over Politico's head.

and it begs the question, why does Beet feel the necessity to jostle with an obviously inferior interlocutor. 

Why not?
7687  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which European political party most fits the preceding poster's political views? on: August 05, 2012, 03:48:54 am
I want to say Italy's Social Christians but as pragmatic as Nathan is, I think he would join a much larger party so I should go with PS in France.
7688  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Will Obama Get >60% in Massachusetts? on: August 05, 2012, 03:39:08 am
No, probably 57 or 58-41.
7689  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Good Post Gallery on: August 05, 2012, 02:56:03 am
Nathan is the Forum King of troll-killing.

Since the government is going to have to accept that there is a limit to revenue, it might as well be today's level of revenue.

Why?

Why not?

The basic choice is between biting the bullet and doing it now, and, putting it off to a latter date.

Sure, it is theoretically possible to either raise, or cut taxes, from their current level and freeze them forever at that level, but, that's not how humans operate. In practise, the decision to raise taxes will only result in a debate later in which the tax-raisers will claim the underlying facts are the same as they were in 2012.

I really don't think the argument will use 2012 as its touchstone.

The fact that you think taxes can or should be frozen forever at any given level says an awful lot about you, Bob.

The fact that you are incredulous about the notion of the electorate saying, "Enough, we are choosing not to pay higher taxes!," just means you are one of the people whom has to be politically defeated, else taxes will rise to the point that people can't pay them any more.

One of those two limits is going to be reached. It might as well be the electorate choosing not to pay higher taxes.

With respect, I don't think you understand which part of your argument it is that I'm incredulous about.

Again, my point seems to have completely eluded you. I'm fairly confident that if the electorate took the decision to prefer choosing not to pay any higher taxes rather than waiting until they are unable to pay any higher taxes many in the political class would take the attitude that this is just a phase that the electorate is going through and that they need merely wait them out before raising taxes yet again. The electorate has to take this into account.

Either taxes really reach a political limit, or it is subject to renegotiation.  If the electorate continues to renegotiate with the political class, taxes will inevitably rise to the point that the citizenry simply cannot pay more. Again, I am arguing that the electorate choosing a limit for the political class is the rational political choice. If the electorate doesn't stick that political limit then it simply isn't a limit.

Oh, I see what's going on here. You're positing a form of class struggle ('electorate' vs. 'political class' over taxes, which the former always wants as low[/flat?] as possible and the latter always wants as high[/progressive?] as possible) which doesn't actually bear much resemblance to reality at all, although to be absolutely fair it's somewhat more sensible than some other dialectics I've seen people come up with. You don't appear to view the dynamic as one in which taxes are raised and lowered according to real or perceived macroeconomic utility and such policies are argued to the public based upon either their merits or common rhetoric (you likewise don't seem to view taxation as a macroeconomic policy choice of any kind so much as some complicated form of embezzlement, which may explain your apparent inability to understand the import of the fact that income tax rates have been relatively low for several decades now).

Okay, I got your point and understand exactly what was so baffling to me about it. Thank you.
7690  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Public Office of the Napoleon-Kalwejt Administration on: August 05, 2012, 02:25:26 am
Senator Sbane has introduced a bill we worked together on, with assistance from SoIA Morgieb and Senators Scott and Redalgo. The National University and General Education Reform Bill is a package of reforms to improve secondary and tertiary education with great long term benefits. Thank you Sbane. Smiley

With that, I would like to call for the establishment of a Senate committee to deal with internal affairs or domestic programs. Smiley This would be fun for future bills.
7691  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1998 New York Senate Race on: August 04, 2012, 06:05:06 pm
Schumer is the candidate who is closest to my political views. That's what matters.

Lol.

You don't think this logic makes sense ? The whole point of the Senate is to pass legislation. Why should I care whether my Senator is a nice guy or not, as long as he votes for the bills I like and against those I don't like ?

Al was pro-union and endorsed by the HRC over Schumer.
7692  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE STANDING COMMITTEE: Gov't Oversight and Reform (Court Reform) on: August 04, 2012, 04:57:31 pm
Isn't the purpose of the court meant to provide a check on executive/legislative excess by concentrating judicial power into the hands of a unelected, lifetime judges?

How does changing the court, increase the number of cases?

It doesn't but it addresses the Senator's other concern quite nicely, with the benefit of cooler court cases. 3-0 and 2-1I is so stale. What about 5-0, 4-1, 3-2 all possibilities? Certainly would be more interesting than currently, without fruiting our most active members to fill the roles.
7693  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The "ohh snap" Sulfur Mine on: August 04, 2012, 04:12:25 pm
I take back every negative thing I've ever said about Simfan.  Bravo, sir.

Vicious persona attack on an average american elicits your applause.  Lovely.  You should both go  lounge around Vegas in your suits and porkpie hats and make fun of the 'squares'.
7694  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The "ohh snap" Sulfur Mine on: August 04, 2012, 03:49:54 pm
Get the fuck out of here, Morning.

Ohhhh...lost your little butt-buddy Snowstalker? Your heart aching? Sad

Indeed, it's a tragedy. Your mother gave great head, by the way.

Wow. Yeah, I'm stunned at why Oakvale is leaving...
7695  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: SENATE STANDING COMMITTEE: National Security on: August 04, 2012, 03:07:53 pm
I want to make sure that this applies only to defense treaties and not any sort of trade agreement.
7696  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: President Napoleon's Open Press Conference on: August 04, 2012, 01:06:15 pm
Mr. President, how do you plan to address the fatal epidemic sweeping our nation known as Bieber Fever?

Bieber is banned from Atlasia.
7697  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: President Napoleon's Open Press Conference on: August 04, 2012, 01:05:04 pm
Why are you so awesome? Cheesy And on a more serious note, what do you do to address the continually low quality of airport services in the country? Shall we see an update to the FAA's technology, long needed?

I am awesome because I am President, I am President because I am awesome. (Jk, because I know some haters will take this out of context)

My administration is looking to ways to make air travel more efficient and convenient, internally and internationally.
7698  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: President Napoleon's Open Press Conference on: August 04, 2012, 01:02:47 pm
My mistake; I meant OTH discharges are the most severe form of administrative discharge, not overall discharge.

What is the administration's long-term strategy for addressing Iran?

We understand the threat a nuclear Iran could pose to stability in the Middle East region. My administration is monitoring the situation carefully and convincing Iran to cut ties with terrorist organizations is absolutely a top priority.
7699  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: President Napoleon's Open Press Conference on: August 04, 2012, 12:58:25 pm
Mr. President, what are your plans for the violent conquering of Canada?

Eh?
7700  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: President Napoleon's Open Press Conference on: August 04, 2012, 12:55:45 pm
Mr. President- how is the First Lady doing? I'm referring to the gal at your inauguration....

I have her on the doughnut diet, Senator.
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