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751  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How would you vote on a bill that would... on: October 08, 2013, 05:57:37 pm
I lean pretty strongly toward, "Yea (I/O)" but am open to being persuaded that regulation would suffice.

752  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Your Representatives throughout your lifetime on: October 08, 2013, 11:51:46 am
MN-02: Vin Weber (1983-1993)
MN-07: Arland Strangeland (1977-1991)
MN-07: Collin Peterson (1991-Present)
MT-At Large: Rick Hill (1997-2001)
MT-At Large: Denny Rehberg (2001-2013)
MT-At Large: Steve Daines (2013-Present)
753  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Hello my name is Gary. I am a goat on: October 08, 2013, 11:34:02 am
And thus began the Goat Liberation Front (Marxist-Leninist)'s revolutionary struggle...
754  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Did your parents scold you for using bigoted slurs? on: October 08, 2013, 11:18:54 am
Yes - e.g. I remember discovering the n-bomb while listing nonesense words rhyming with Tigger!
755  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Vote for peace on: October 08, 2013, 11:13:42 am

Self defense is really the only time this country should use force.

I would wholeheartedly agree if "this country" were replaced with "humanity," at least for now. Smiley
756  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: working fast food on: October 08, 2013, 11:09:35 am
I would never work it - too much pain in the feet. I need to be able to work sitting down for at least an hour or so per standard 8-hour shift to rest them.
757  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How would you act in this scenario? on: October 08, 2013, 10:57:12 am
No thanks (pro-prepuce).
758  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Vote for peace on: October 08, 2013, 10:21:35 am
I want to vote yes but believe there is still a justified place for violence in self-defense, and also in international relations.
759  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What would be your ideal method for electing a legislature? on: October 08, 2013, 12:44:47 am
I honestly do not have an answer to the question. What are the pros and cons to having different numbers of houses, any particular number of seats, different pools of voters entrusted to choose how seats get filled, or of having a parliament compared to a congress separate from the state's executive. How would these affect other pieces of the government, the many republics within a federalist system, and the quality of legislation? There are so many possibilities. The proper sets of checks and balances, along with the proper voting methods, really seem to depend on what kind of legislative body is to exist. For now I'm a bit lost on this issue.
760  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should we be scared? on: October 08, 2013, 12:29:38 am
Even if the worst comes to pass, remember the state is a basically a tool. If it breaks we can build another.
761  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How would you vote on a bill that would... on: October 07, 2013, 11:55:13 pm
Nay (I/O) for me unfortunately, though someday I hope it will be feasible.

I reckon well over 100 million people are interested in moving to the U.S. if given an opportunity to do so. Would there be enough revenue from taxing these people for the state to cope with enormous population growth? How would we build and maintain enough new infrastructure, quality schools and hospitals, etc. to prevent a massive increase to the ranks of poor who lack access to all the basic necessities for the good life when we already fail to do so for the entirety of our current population? Would there be enough time for cities to wisely plan their growth, and for development to occur without inflicting even greater levels of harm to the environment than we already inflict?

Personally, I would prefer incremental increases to the annual quota and loosening of standards for admittance into the country until completely free borders are eventually achieved. This policy would be a lot less troublesome to enact and the number of immigrants arriving in the U.S. far more manageable for us to accommodate once the existing, pent-up demand for admittance into the U.S. is relieved. Until then I am a bit apprehensive.
762  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Religion Debate on: October 07, 2013, 11:12:30 pm
I basically agree with the OP, and would add support for irreligious state institutions and symbols.
763  General Politics / Economics / Re: What would your economic policy look like? on: October 07, 2013, 10:21:11 pm
I would never be elected President of the U.S. or have any cooperation in Congress, but...

Social Insurance:

Dismantle Social Security, or failing that raise the retirement age and implement a lockbox.
Folks need to save on their own or accept a shift to (very) modest living upon retirement.
Dismantle Medicare, Medicaid, TANF, and other programs of the liberal welfare regime.
Grandfather in provisions to honor current pension obligations but do not offer any more.
Implement a universal, state scheme for bundled basic life, health, and old age insurance.
Implement a basic income set to the est., minimum cost of living in each state or county.
Get money for this from the general fund / income taxes - not any special sort of tax.
Allow people to buy supplemental insurance from non-state providers.


Increase the income tax; eliminate all other forms of taxation at the state and federal levels.
The lowest quintile of earners among American adults shall pay a 10% rate for income tax.
The highest quintile of earners among American adults will pay a 50% rate for income tax.
The remaining quintiles will be adjusted accordingly to bridge the gap betwixt the extemes.
The basic income is income tax-exempt but no other exceptions or deductions should exist.
Treat capital gains, dividends, and inheretence as income.
Tax individuals instead of households or married couples.
All tax revenue not used by the federal government is to be apportioned to the many states.
Each state gets a cut of the income tax revenue proportionate to what their inhabitants paid.
Implement constitutionally-imbedded limits on how much the feds can take relative to states.
Local governments cannot tax income.


The basic income is unconditional; there is no work requirement or other strings attached.
Start a relentless PR campaign glorifying creativity, volunteerism, and excellence in labor.
Examine possible courses of action for improving the prestige of low-skill or menial work.
Examine possible courses of action for improving the prestige of artistry in general.
Initiate programs for rehabilitating the disabled, mentally ill, addicts, criminals, etc.
Maintain rigorous separation of church and state in human development projects.
Extend interest-free loans to students planning to enroll in college.
Examine possible reform options for the public education system.
Examine possible options for streamlining business regulations.
Shift from a retributive to restorative system of criminal justice.
Cooperativize ownership of Section 8 housing.
Eliminate food stamps, the minimum wage, and all subsidies to business.
Implement a nationwide “right to work” policy.
Let the many states, communities, charities, etc. decide what more to do.

Budget and Economy:

Establish an open, market socialist economy of cooperatives and sole proprietorships.
Mandate workplace democracy for co-ops; abolish all corporations and partnerships.
Forbid foreign-owned firms from non-socialist or undemocratic operations in the U.S.
Forbid American-owned firms from non-socialist or undemocratic operations abroad.
Adopt a non-interventionist economic position on recessions but try to elevate morale.
Focus on avoiding deflation and keeping inflation low, even if unemployment is high.
Do not release oil from the national strategic reserve to ease consumer demand.
Invest rigorously in infrastructure, exploration, R&D, the arts, museums, etc.
Regulate only to uphold social rights; otherwise leave producers and consumers be.
Regulations should not create unlevel playing fields or unfair terms of competition.
Elimination of the national debt is important; make sure to downscale the military.
Eliminate the federal debt limit but try to find a way to make balanced budgets normal.

International Trade:

Eliminate current tarrifs, embargoes, travel restrictions, and economic sactions but...
Refuse arms deals with foreign actors who fail to meet my standards on human rights.
Pursue (mostly) free trade as a first preference, and otherwise seek terms of fair trade.
Pursue alter-globalization; socialists and humanists should challenge the current order.
Forgive debts to LDCs, offer interest-free loans, and significantly increase foreign aid.
Search for ways to exert pressure on the IMF to stop coersing pro-capitalist reforms.
Endeavor for socialists and humanists to capture the WTO and then redirect its agenda.
Re-evaluate trade relations with the PRC and be prepared to make some concessions.
Seize reasonable opportunities to merge with other countires and harmonize policies.
Examine options for intellectual property reform.

Firms and Ownership:

Eliminate unemployment benefits; replace with unconditional, permanent basic income.
All land and economic capital will be confiscated and bestowed upon the People jointly.
Lend the People’s property under a new social contract to its prior owners for managing.
Firms must be owned and in some manner controlled by their workers.
Limit intra-firm disparities of compensation to reduce socioeconomic inequality.
Let individuals take informed, un-coersed risks; dabble in at least some deregulation.
Forbid firms from preventing or otherwise hindering unionization.
Forbid unions from hindering folks from negotiating independently or via other unions.
Require firms to adhere in their policies to a number of social rights protecting workers.


Eliminate state censorship of expression, including fines for indecent broadcasting.
Nationalize all checking, debit card, and credit card services but not the banks.
Nationalize nuclear energy and massively invest in fourth generation reactor designs.
Aggressively expand funding for exploration and human development in space.
Regulations of the economy should be sentiocentric rather than anthropocentric.
Advance an agenda for sustainability and animal rights even if it hurts the economy.
Legalize prostitution and all recreational drugs; eliminate sin taxes as well.
Let people opt for denizenship - forgoing taxes but having to buy state services individually.

I am leaving some stuff out (e.g. campaign finance reform) but this is enough for now.
764  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Ted Cruz vs Vladimir Lenin on: October 06, 2013, 12:42:01 pm
It is not a simple matter of far left versus far right. Lenin was far too ruthless and comfortable using violence to get his way in politics, and on balance seems more authoritarian than Cruz. There are many socialists and communists - even from the years leading up to the formation of the USSR - I would prefer to Cruz but Lenin is not one of them.
765  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Who's right, Democrats or Republicans? on: October 06, 2013, 12:26:18 pm

This - at least on far more issues than either the Democrats or Republicans.

It is all a matter of perspective though of course.
766  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Political Attitudes of Your College? on: October 06, 2013, 12:19:21 pm
I cannot speak for the whole college but during my political science program the typical class at the American Military University was dominated by classical liberal fans of Paul, Reagan-admirers on the Christian Right, and a modest pool of pragmatists and moderates who tended to be a bit less outspoken in debates. The number of progressive and radical folk varied from class to class but was always in the minority - save for in the classes on international relations. At the time I was a social democrat and only ever encountered one peer - a Marxist - who was off to my left.

From the get-go I knew this was what to expect though and wouldn't have it any other way. Being pitted against opponents 1 to 10 in debates is a great way to learn and gain wisdom; being in an echo chamber voicing my preconceived beliefs and positions could easily have stunted both my intellectual growth and the refinement of my convictions.
767  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How many children do you want to have? on: October 06, 2013, 11:56:06 am
None would be preferred, but maybe one adopted. Folks who want three or more tend to frustrate me.

There are a lot of kids out there who need adopting (i.e. bearing several offspring is very selfish), having fewer children allows parents to focus more resources on a smaller number of people - improving kids' prospects for healthful development and success in life, and having a small number of children is responsible family planning from a perspective of economic sustainability. I'd also prefer the States allow for a lot more immigration without incurring severe problems with urban planning and infrastructure.
768  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Legislation Through Extortion on: October 05, 2013, 11:56:21 pm
What do you think?  Reasonable tactic or spitting in the face of the founders?

It is corrupt and deplorable but probably also something that has always polluted politics.
769  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: How would you have voted on the Affordable Care Act (2010)? on: October 05, 2013, 11:51:17 pm
I'm leaning yea (I/O) and agree with Walter, TNF, and Federalist on this one.
770  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Inter-generational crime on: October 05, 2013, 11:10:27 pm
I honestly do not know how it relates to the laws of today, though I remember this concept also being related to so-called "third generation rights" in liberalism, with the 1st generation being civil rights focused upon by classical liberals while the 2nd generation is comprised of the economic rights recognized and also pushed for by social liberals. The "new" or "green" liberal supports all three generations of individual rights, with inter-generational rights being the newest addition to their list of what government is supposed to uphold and protect to remain in adherence to the core tenets of liberal philosophy.


My opinion of the concept is high. Just as the individual's exercise of liberty in pursuit of life and happiness can be unjustly inhibited by acts of government, organized religion, firms, unions, other individuals, etc. and also by ones socioeconomic lot in life it is not difficult to see how actions by people living today could inflict harm upon people tomorrow, or limit the actionability of their freedoms to such an extent as to warrant regulation of human conduct in the present, accordingly.

I suppose the main issue is deciding where to draw the line between doing enough to protect the individual autonomy and self-determination of future generations' on one hand or doing too much on the other to restrict individual autonomy and self-determination in the present. A similar concern exists for social liberals in how they balance freedom-enhancing individual empowerment and equality of opportunity against private property rights and freedom to do as one pleases in business - or at an even more fundamental level with how classical liberals choose to err in controversial instances when pragmatic, utilitarian reasoning is pitted against their devotion to defend (arguably) inalienable, God-given rights.

Personally, I believe inter-generational concerns are among several to consider on the path to recognizing that socialism or a mixed system can be made just as compatible with the core ideals of liberalism as (if not even more so than) capitalism.
771  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: A Little Experiment - What is Your Ideal Parenting Style? on: October 05, 2013, 03:56:05 pm
Permissive - with a focus on being loving, supportive, and an enabler of self-improvement.
772  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Does the left not realize that Americans dont want the ACA? on: October 05, 2013, 03:48:36 pm
1. What would you like in it's place? You can't just repeal something and not offer an alternative.

Personally I would look at tort reform and emulating many French policies concerning healthcare.

~40% approval is pretty solid relative to public opinion of many other federal government actions / nonactions/ programs / etc.

As another consideration the People are generally not well informed, nor are they particularly wise when it comes to rationally going about the policy-making process. Public opinion as it pertains to individual issues should only really matter to delegate and politico-styled officials. Trustee-oriented folk like me reckon elected officials should lead instead of follow the masses.

. . . Whether the Republicans deserve a House majority is a separate issue; but that it exists is indisputable.

Aye. Though I do not agree with how it is being done, the House is and - to be a bit empathetic here - really ought to continue being a thorn in the President's side on issues like this.


Though this is a great blessing for many folk, for a number of others the rush to get on is so the government won't start fining them for not having private insurance they already could not afford. Some of the poor are well-subsidized, making the costs of coverage quite reasonable, but to use a personal anecdote I am not eligible for the subsidies in Montana because my current gross income is at ~79% rather than betwixt 100% and 400% of the poverty level.

In practice this is going to be a regressive tax on thousands of the uninsured, un- or under-employed poor in states like mine; many will weigh their options on the site and realize they have to pay the fine each year instead of getting coverage that would cost so much as to force them to choose between going hungry and going homeless (assuming for a moment they are not already). Unless I accept charity, next year I will be uninsured until I can get another job.

On the other hand, this particular issue only exists in MT courtesy of Republican efforts to defy and resist the ACA. At least the law is better than what came before it for most people?
773  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which Political Party Platform Do You Most Support on: October 05, 2013, 02:46:03 pm
I would love to answer this with a well-informed opinion but some of these platforms are very verbose even by my standards, and certainly at times vague. For now I will go with the Greens.
774  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the line-item veto on: October 05, 2013, 02:41:55 pm
HI - for the same reason provided by Torie.
775  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How many children do you want to have? on: October 05, 2013, 02:33:07 pm
None would be preferred, but maybe one adopted. Folks who want three or more tend to frustrate me.
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