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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The TrumpCare comes back from the dead (...and lives!) thread on: June 22, 2017, 09:36:19 am
So what's the dealio now?
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Comey Senate Intelligence Committee Testimony Thread on: June 08, 2017, 10:14:36 am
The Right tweets are fascinating.

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 Comey says "I don't know" a lot. #ComeyHearing #BigLeagueTruth
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Comey Senate Intelligence Committee Testimony Thread on: June 08, 2017, 09:58:49 am
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 Comey "I could be wrong"
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Comey's written statement for tomorrow on: June 07, 2017, 02:08:07 pm
FOX "News" headline on this:

Ex-FBI boss to testify he assured Trump he was not personally under investigation; was pressed for 'loyalty'

The White House propaganda outlet is hard at work on spinning this one.

Note that it is a subtitle to the main headline: "Comey Clears the Air"
Or heir, or whatever.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Joe Kennedy a viable candidate? on: June 04, 2017, 07:46:56 pm
No. Too gingy.
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: MT-AL: Rob Quist (D) vs. Greg Gianforte (R) vs. Mark Wicks (L), May 25 on: May 25, 2017, 05:38:42 am
Gianforte will still win ...

Now more than ever.

All the shy Rs will be like:

"What ? He punched some librul, fake-news reporter ? Let's vote for him !"

This. I keep reading the thread but am sincerely doubtful he suffers from this. You know everything on Hannity the last 4 months has been about the (quoting) "Destroy Trump Media"? An assault on the media is not going to play negatively with these people.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Dow Jones has dropped 370 points in the midst of the Trump drama on: May 17, 2017, 07:01:15 pm
If those darn leakers would stop leaking this would never happen!
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump revealed classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador on: May 15, 2017, 09:09:12 pm
Lolololol Sean Hannity is all about Clinton Foundation and emails tonight this is amazing.
Also had the Naso "STOP LEAKING!" line
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump revealed classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador on: May 15, 2017, 06:37:16 pm
Haha Foxnews.com front page is about Hillary's super PAC I love them never change
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: BREAKING: Trump Fires Comey on: May 12, 2017, 08:41:55 am
Uhhh Kucinich just said Comey should have recused himself from the Russia case because he already implicated himself by helping to decide the 2016 election. What?
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: White House to display 2016 election map to assuage Trump's ego on: May 11, 2017, 09:40:33 pm
Also the map is wrong, they colored Jackson County, Missouri red.

This is my new favorite thing
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: BREAKING: Trump Fires Comey on: May 11, 2017, 08:32:21 am
Yeah, I was watching Fox this morning. "Have you watched the other networks? They think there's something going on with Russia!" and such. Fascinating.
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Job growth bounces back in April, up 211k. Unemployment falls to ten year low on: May 05, 2017, 12:26:42 pm
Great! We don't need tax reform after all.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The TrumpCare comes back from the dead (...and lives!) thread on: May 04, 2017, 01:48:52 pm
The stupidity of Republicans never ceases to astound.

Yet they have both houses and the Presidency sooooo...
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The TrumpCare comes back from the dead (...and lives!) thread on: May 04, 2017, 01:12:17 pm
There were only 429 votes..
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The TrumpCare comes back from the dead (...and lives!) thread on: May 04, 2017, 12:43:20 pm
Pelosi is really bullying those "Undecided"s right now haha
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The TrumpCare comes back from the dead (...and dies again!) thread on: May 03, 2017, 10:32:17 pm
Why are people voting yes for this? Seriously. Has any benefit been publicized that people accept as, well, a benefit? To anyone?

Obviously Obamacare supporters like myself and (presumably) you aren't the audience they're trying to appeal to here. They're appealing to Obamacare haters and Obamacare haters only.

Sure, but even so...what is the carrot for Obamacare haters other than It's Not Obamacare?
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The TrumpCare comes back from the dead (...and dies again!) thread on: May 03, 2017, 09:25:37 pm
Why are people voting yes for this? Seriously. Has any benefit been publicized that people accept as, well, a benefit? To anyone?
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Gang Tries Fixing the Tax Code on: April 27, 2017, 12:10:36 pm

That's nice.

I currently fall in the 25% bracket. I took $20,000 in deductions last year. They were fairly evenly split between mortgage interest, property tax, and charitable giving. Deleting the property tax deduction puts me roughly at the standard deduction assuming I contribute the same amount to charity. And my tax bracket won't change. So, this is a tax hike for me.

And no, interest isn't huge "just in the very beginning." Interest makes up more than half for the first, well, half of your mortgage's life.
All that to say this removes an incentive to home ownership that I can only see causing less demand and falling house prices.
Stupid. (Not you Smiley )

This is great for people who own their home outright, or have made a majority of payments on their house, but detrimental to relatively new homeowners. As you pointed out, it is also harmful to home values. In other words, it favors boomers at the expense of younger voters. 

Well not exactly. Property taxes are the same whether you're a new or old home-owner. Since mortgage interest is remaining as a deduction, that favors younger home buyers. All home buyers are fairly equally screwed by the property tax deduction removal.
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Gang Tries Fixing the Tax Code on: April 27, 2017, 09:28:47 am
Also you've pointed out mortgage interest deduction - what about property tax deduction? The memo says "protect home ownership...deductions". Removing the property tax deduction would be a huge tax hike.

If it is true that trump is doubling the amount of the standard deduction, then in most cases for middle class citizens, it would be worthless/unnecessary for tax payers to itemize their deductions.
The way tax law works, is that you only itemize deductions, if you can prove that it is more (higher) than the standard deduction that you can take.

So if the new standard deduction is double the amount it use to be, and if itemized deductions are reduced to just two "items" (mortgage interest and chartable contributions), then for most Americans, taxes will be filed using the standard deduction.

Only the few (mainly the RICH AND WEATTHY) who buy very large homes or mansions, would actually itemize their deductions. Some middle class citizens might itemize the first 3-5 years or so, since their monthly mortgage payments are mainly interest in the early years of their mortgage (home loan), but I assure you this is not a significant amount of "normal" people.

That's nice.

I currently fall in the 25% bracket. I took $20,000 in deductions last year. They were fairly evenly split between mortgage interest, property tax, and charitable giving. Deleting the property tax deduction puts me roughly at the standard deduction assuming I contribute the same amount to charity. And my tax bracket won't change. So, this is a tax hike for me.

And no, interest isn't huge "just in the very beginning." Interest makes up more than half for the first, well, half of your mortgage's life.
All that to say this removes an incentive to home ownership that I can only see causing less demand and falling house prices.
Stupid. (Not you Smiley )
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Gang Tries Fixing the Tax Code on: April 26, 2017, 06:15:02 pm
This is a tax increase for me. Neat!
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Gang Tries Fixing the Tax Code on: April 26, 2017, 02:39:55 pm
Also you've pointed out mortgage interest deduction - what about property tax deduction? The memo says "protect home ownership...deductions". Removing the property tax deduction would be a huge tax hike.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Gang Tries Fixing the Tax Code on: April 26, 2017, 01:10:49 pm
Doubling the standard deduction is a real slap in the face to homeowners.
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump Cabinet confirmation hearings **live commentary thread** on: February 01, 2017, 02:46:18 pm
Uh I just saw an advertisement to confirm Jeff Sessions on CNN. Anyone else? That's bizarre.
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Transition Team/Cabinet Thread on: December 08, 2016, 03:23:39 pm
This story says that Rick Perry is now considered the "leading candidate" for Secretary of Energy:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-goes-his-own-way-in-vetting-top-picks-1481155652


I guess Rick Perry forgot that he wanted to abolish that department (again).

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