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25801  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: A Real Lockbox for Social Security on: July 01, 2005, 05:41:18 pm
Tax revenues almost doubled due to economic growth under Reagan. So yes, you're ignoring facts, as usual.

Thanks to inflation, population growth, and that he was President for 8 years, and had an above average economy for being a Republican (still sh**tty compared to a Democrat).
25802  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bush will pick a woman to replace O'Connor on: July 01, 2005, 05:39:59 pm
Care to refute anything in it, or are you just blindly attacking it?

Usually, I only answer those that can see straight, which rules you out...but I'll grant your request this one time:

See straight? What garbage.

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Answer of 1st question from link..."A: Sure. I'm a lawyer. I read it. It says Bush wins, even if Gore got the most votes."

First, that is not what the ruling says.  It never proclaimed a winner, it simply said (paraphrased): "The current recount method is unconstitutional and the Florida Supreme Court has interpreted Florida law to mean that all recounts must be completed by the Safe-Harbor date, which is upon us.  Therefore, there is no time to put in place constitutional recount so all attempts to recount must be halted."

Did you expect them to write: "We appoint Bush President"? The effect of the ruling was to appoint him President.

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Second, Gore did not get the most votes in Florida.  Even the media recounts confirmed this.
No, the media recounts showed that Gore did get the most votes, but they didn't want to be seen as not supporting the President after 9/11. Plus there were the illegal absentee ballots that helped Bush, and the scrub list that hurt Gore.

25803  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: A Real Lockbox for Social Security on: July 01, 2005, 05:35:41 pm
There were three primary causes: (1) a large and sustained defense build-up; (2) the unexpected rapid decline in inflation; and (3) the recession in the early 1980s.

You like selectively ignoring facts. The GOP-Clinton budget standoff is one of them.

The fact that federal revenues grew at a faster rate after the Reagan tax cuts than after the Bush and Clinton tax hikes is another.

I'm the one ignoring the facts? Reagan's tax cut cost the treasury a huge amount of money.
25804  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: the official john danforth for supreme court justice thread. on: July 01, 2005, 05:34:52 pm
If you wanted a non wingnut to be appointed, you shouldn't have voted for Bush. Instead you were one of 62 million people who voted to have wingnuts appointed to the court.

are you saying kerry wouldnt have appointed a wingnut.

if wingnuts must be appointed, i marginally prefer right over left.

Both of Clinton's appointees were suggested by Senator Hatch of Utah. At the time the Democrats controlled the Senate. The Senate is Republican now. Logic dictates that Kerry would do the same.
25805  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What countries sponsor terroism? on: July 01, 2005, 05:32:36 pm
Yeah, where's the Saudi Arabia option? I guess you conservatives don't give a sh**t about terrorism if it's from Saudi Arabia?
25806  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: CAFTA: Good or Bad? on: July 01, 2005, 05:30:13 pm
Ron Paul is obnoxious. I lost all respect for the guy when he started sounding like Barbara Boxer on the war.

I can't wait to hear your opinion of the Freedom Fries guy from NC.
25807  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: the official john danforth for supreme court justice thread. on: July 01, 2005, 05:29:27 pm
If you wanted a non wingnut to be appointed, you shouldn't have voted for Bush. Instead you were one of 62 million people who voted to have wingnuts appointed to the court.
25808  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bush will pick a woman to replace O'Connor on: July 01, 2005, 05:28:20 pm

Care to refute anything in it, or are you just blindly attacking it?
25809  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: A Real Lockbox for Social Security on: July 01, 2005, 05:25:43 pm
Which is obviously more than offset when money is appropriated for each year based on expected inflation.

Reagan actually proposed smaller budgets than the Democrats in Congress enacted.

Real federal revenues grew at a faster pace after the Reagan tax cuts than after the Bush and Clinton tax hikes.

Huge dents in defense spending were fine for the '90s. Wasn't an option in the '80s, and isn't now.

The main cause of the deficits was large tax cuts and increased military spending. What's you're arguing about is probably just a few billion dollars, basically rounding errors.

Why was military so important then? In 1980, Senator Monyihan said "The USSR will fall in 10 years". It turned out everyone (except Senator Monyihan) vastly over-estimated the power of the USSR.
25810  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bush will pick a woman to replace O'Connor on: July 01, 2005, 05:24:11 pm
You could also mention that the Scotus voted to stop recounts 7-2.

And that Bush was voted against in one of the 3 charges 3-6.

And I wasn't necessarily referring to you, but people like you have definitely made statements like that before.

...then show me where in Bush v. Gore there was an unconstitutional decision.


Read this.

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/commentary/20001218_levine.html
25811  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Blair confirms the Downing Street Memos that Bush denied on: July 01, 2005, 05:23:13 pm
When did Bush deny that the Memo was authentic?

Here

http://social-democrat.dailykos.com/story/2005/6/7/184314/4467
25812  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: A Real Lockbox for Social Security on: July 01, 2005, 05:15:25 pm
I guess you missed the balanced budget standoff.

The '80s deficits were caused by an unexpected, drastic slowdown in the rate of inflation, which caused Congress to spend more money than it took in. Those deficits were also smaller than FDR's deficits.

Democrats in Congress actually approved larger budgets than Reagan proposed.

Blaming the large deficits on a decrease in inflation is one of the lamest excuses I've ever heard. A decrease in inflation decreases the interest payments on the debt.
25813  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: the official john danforth for supreme court justice thread. on: July 01, 2005, 05:13:15 pm
Too moderate for Bush to appoint.
25814  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bush will pick a woman to replace O'Connor on: July 01, 2005, 05:12:14 pm
Why do people like jfern say "Bush's daddy's Supreme Court appointed him" when Bush I's justices make up 2/9 and 1 of them dissented?

Anyone? Anyone?

Straw man.

What I said was that the SCOTUS appointed Bush 5-4.
You could also mention that one of those 5 was appointed by his daddy.

25815  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: All Your Internets belong to Bush on: July 01, 2005, 05:03:34 pm
BUSH EVIL BUSH EVIL BUSH EVIL BUSH EVIL BUSH EVIL

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111

Enough already

Are you a closet Bush supporter?
25816  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Blair confirms the Downing Street Memos that Bush denied on: July 01, 2005, 05:02:32 pm
That link is to the ICANN story, not the DSM story.

Fixed
25817  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Blair confirms the Downing Street Memos that Bush denied on: July 01, 2005, 04:49:49 pm
Thanks for lying yet again. Get the  out of my White House, Bush.

Of course you Republicans are going to tell me that lying about a blow job is worse than lying repeatedly about a war.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/1/144114/8238
25818  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: A Real Lockbox for Social Security on: July 01, 2005, 04:47:25 pm
How about 1993-1997?

Yeah, it took a while to balance the budget after the fiscally irresponsible Reagan and Bush Sr. adminstrations, particularly because of the former. Democrats always have to clean up Republican's messes.
25819  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / All Your Internets belong to Bush on: July 01, 2005, 04:46:16 pm
That's right, Bush wants to take control of the Internets

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/1/113213/9140
25820  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Public Utility Holding Company Act (PUHCA) of 1935 REPEALED! on: July 01, 2005, 04:41:32 pm
And it was bipartison too!  The only Democrats that voted against this were:

Corzine (D-NJ)
Feingold (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Wyden (D-OR)

Wow, Clinton didn't vote against it?  At least that's one thing she's done well.

Ummm, Clinton voted for the war, which had a lot more opposiition than this. Ditto for the Rice nomination. She's really not that liberal.
25821  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: A Real Lockbox for Social Security on: July 01, 2005, 04:39:10 pm
In 2000, no money was borrowed from SS, and the rest of the government ran a $87 billion surplus (for a total surplus of around $240 billion). Too bad such a fiscally irresponsible President got elected. Now we are running $600 billion deficits, which include borrowing the $150-160 billion a year SS surplus.
25822  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Justice O'Connor retiring on: July 01, 2005, 04:37:06 pm
Looking over the wiki listings, Kozinski doesn't look too bad.  Anyone have opinions on him?

"Doesn't look too bad" = not getting nominated by Bush.
25823  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Are you a terrorist? on: July 01, 2005, 04:31:34 pm
Last Tuesday, Bush at his Republican rallying cry of help cried out..

'Terrorists believe that America is corrupt'

Terrorists -> believe America is corrupt DOES NOT EQUATE TO believing America is corrupt -> Terorrist.

You are a really unbalanced individual.  I don't know what is wrong with you, but I'm sure it is hard to pronounce.

Why are you complaining? You make the most biased polls on the planet.
25824  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Scientists say global warming doesn't exist on: July 01, 2005, 04:28:30 pm
who gives a  about global warming, by time it becomes a seroius problem, I'll most likely be dead then it won't be my problem.

You must not be planning on living a long time.
25825  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Scientists say global warming doesn't exist on: July 01, 2005, 04:27:40 pm
yeah, I think they're right, I don't believe in it either.

What's there to not believe? The 4 or 5 warmest years on record are all from the last 8 years or so.
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