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25801  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: California satan day election results on: June 06, 2006, 10:16:25 pm
they are absentee only.  Republicans always lead in early absentee returns

I'm not sure if Republicans always lead absentees in California, but in any case, CA-50 has 57/500 precincts reporting.
25802  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Montana Senatorial Primary - Predictions/Discussion on: June 06, 2006, 10:07:56 pm
Are there any results?

Yes, in early returns, Tester is leading.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/6/6/223638/7276
25803  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / California satan day election results on: June 06, 2006, 10:03:28 pm
Primaries:
http://vote.ss.ca.gov/

3.0% reporting
Governor: Angelides leads Westly 48.5-43.1
Lt. Governor: Garamendi leads Speier 42.4-41.1
Secretary of State: Debra Bowen winning
Controller: Chiang leads Dunn 54.0-46.0
Treasurer: Lockyer unopposed
Attorney Gneeral: Jerry Brown winning
Insurance commissioner: Bustamente winning (damn)
US Senate: Feinstein landsliding (I voted against her)

CA-11: Not reporting

Prop 81 is 46.3%
Prop 82 is 41.9%







CA-50: Bilbray leads Bushby 50.6-42.9 with 11.4% reporting. Both are easily winning their primaries at the same time (confusing, huh?).
http://www.sdvote.org/election/congress.xml



25804  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: June 6th Primaries: NM, MS, CA, IA, AL, NJ, MT, SD on: June 06, 2006, 09:59:44 pm
There are reports of low turnout in CA, but these are general for CA, and notm specific to CA-50.
Polls close in 15 seconds.
25805  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: June 6th Primaries: NM, MS, CA, IA, AL, NJ, MT, SD on: June 06, 2006, 09:45:48 pm
Early results seem to be favoring a Tester win in MT.

Besides that race, most of the interesting races are here in CA. Polls close in 15 minutes.
25806  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: June 6th Primaries: NM, MS, CA, IA, AL, NJ, MT, SD on: June 06, 2006, 09:33:52 pm
Montana is slow in reporting.
25807  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Does socialism encourage hard work? on: June 06, 2006, 09:29:01 pm
I think it depends on the exact system.
25808  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Libertarians are moderates. on: June 06, 2006, 08:19:47 pm
public transportation cannot be profitable.  it isnt meant to be profitable either.


it's  aservice that is capable of doing a lot of good for society.  it should be expanded.  more government subsidies are needed.


I strongly agree. The benefits of public transportation are numerous.

It provides a way for poor people to get to jobs that they otherwise wouldn't be able to rather than forcing them into lower paying jobs that they can walk to (it is clearly bad for the economy for people to not be able to get to a job that they are otherwise qualified for).

It is good for the environment by reducing fossil fuel emissions.

It is good for national security by reducing our consumption of gasoline, thus making us less dependent on the Middle East.

It reduces the need to build new roads or to expand existing roads, and reduces the need for maintenance to existing roads, thus decreasing government infrastructure costs.

It reduces overall traffic congestion, enabling everyone else to get where they are going faster, thus greatly helping the economy.

I would say it is a government initiative that pays for itself several times over.

But don't you get it, public transportation spending is socialism that gets in the way of spending that money on some uhhhh capitalistic freeways, and treating car pullution related diseases.
25809  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CA-50 Special Election Busby vs. Bilbray on: June 06, 2006, 08:16:57 pm
Appearantly the Republican party has spent over $10 million on this race. I wonder how much that will be per vote Bilbray gets?
25810  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Unintended consequence or deliberate attack on the poor and elderly? on: June 06, 2006, 08:03:04 pm
Before the tax was passed it was pointed out that it would affect the poor and the elderly the most.

It seems to me that it's an entirely voluntary tax.  It's not as if they got into a back room and were like "I KNOW, LET'S TAX THE PANTS OFF OF THE POOR AND ELDERLY LOL".

Of course it's going to hit the poor and the elderly the most: it's a sales tax.  All sales taxes do.

No kidding. If they truly wanted to screw the poor, they would have copied Washington's tax structure. However, Michigan is still one of the 49 states with a regressive tax structure, and Delaware is only barely progressive.
25811  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CA-50 Special Election Busby vs. Bilbray on: June 06, 2006, 07:44:14 pm
Bilbray will win, but it will obviously be closer than it would normally be.

True.

1. Bilbray is a poor candidate.

2. Turnout should be higher among Democrats than Republicans due to contested Governor's race.

The 2 candidates for governor went negative on each other, which will likely hurt turnout. Maybe they should have run for Lt. governor, and those 2 good candidates for Lt. governor should have run for governor.
25812  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: What do these people have in common? on: June 06, 2006, 07:41:05 pm

Excuse me.

But if the illegal aliens had not been allowed to enter this country, it seems to me that the victims would be alive.

Yes, the Trail of Tears would have never occured.
25813  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NY: Weld Quits Race on: June 06, 2006, 03:39:02 pm
Oh, and BTW, there's an investigation going on about the college in Kentucky that Weld headed.  It will be interesting to see if he's indicted.

He's a Republican. It's normal for a Republican to be indicted.
25814  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Just Got Finished Watching Russ Feingold on C-SPAN on: June 06, 2006, 03:33:31 pm

That doesn't mean anything. That political compass is one of the most screwed up things I have ever seen and it shows that the makers of the political compass are complete idiots. I wouldn't put any faith in it.

At least they never put Stalin in the liberal corner.
25815  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Murtha vs Irey on: June 06, 2006, 03:32:20 pm
Well, this will be an interesting district to campaign in to say the least.



Absolutely no gerrymandering going on there.
25816  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: CA-50 Special Election Busby vs. Bilbray on: June 06, 2006, 03:29:06 pm
Reports about LOW TURNOUT are circulating.




 I think the minutman candidate will siphone off enough votes from bilbray that busby will win

Low turnout is almost always bad for democrats.

I bet it would have helped in the 2004 election, since the average Kerry voter felt far more strongly about the election than the average Bush voter.
25817  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NY: Weld Quits Race on: June 06, 2006, 02:46:37 pm
Being governor of 2 states is nothing, a guy named James Shields was US Senator from IL, MN, and MO.
25818  Election Archive / 2006 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: TX Gov: SUSA says Perry @ 41%, leads Strayhorn by 21% on: June 06, 2006, 02:22:45 am
Vlad, I think you're avoiding the real issue here. Bell is guranteed a Democratic core vote and Straythorn is doing very well. Perry ain't going down any further, because he's a Republican running in Texas. It can't be done.

In Vermont, Democrats tend to not blindly vote for the Democratic nominee. In 1990, the Democratic nominee for Congress got 3%, a whooping 6315 votes.

http://vermont-archives.org/govinfo/elect/Rep10.htm
25819  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Process / Re: A couple of questions. on: June 06, 2006, 02:07:20 am
2) Can a president who never served as vice-president run for vice-president after their terms as president have expired?

From the XIIth Amendment:
"But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

From the XXIInd Amendment:
"No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once"

You'd have to cook up some very convoluted logic to argue that a person who is ineligible to be elected to the office is somehow still eligible to the office.  It certainly woud go against the clear intent of the XXIInd.

However, I think it would be possible for such a person to become acting President under the XXth Amendment in the case of a failue of either a President or Vice President to be elected, who would serve until one or the other office were to be filled.

But someone who is term limited is not constitutionally ineligible to be President. Clearly, if Bill Clinton was Secretary of State and the requisite people died, he'd become President. The 22nd amendment is merely a limitation on who can be elected President.

Of course none of that would stop the 5 partisan activist conservative Republicans on SCOTUS from vetoing Bill Clinton being elected VP. 
25820  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The New York Times: Democrats' Senate Hopes May Ride on Tennessee on: June 06, 2006, 01:24:15 am
Well it seems clear that the 5 best are PA, MT, RI, MO, OH.

Last VA is 34-51
Last TN is 36-44
Last NV is 32-52
Last AZ is 33-40

2nd last TN is 39-43
2nd last AZ is 37-53

Going to go with TN.
25821  Election Archive / 2006 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: Feinstein (D) With 26 Point Lead over Mountjoy (R) in California on: June 06, 2006, 01:18:30 am
Any polls on her primary? Well I guess we find out how much she wins by on satan day, tommorrow.
25822  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: I'd love to see the governor's convention with Kinky and Schwarzaneggar. on: June 06, 2006, 12:58:30 am
Arnold needs to make a movie called the One-Term-inator.

Or since he was elected to finish Davis' term, the Less-Than-One-Terminator! Tongue

Ok, the 0.78-Term-inator.
25823  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: I'd love to see the governor's convention with Kinky and Schwarzaneggar. on: June 06, 2006, 12:56:36 am
Arnold needs to make a movie called the One-Term-inator.
25824  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: More facts on illegal aliens on: June 06, 2006, 12:49:49 am
Here's a question: Some Native American wanders across the border. Is he an illegal immigrant?

Is he a citizen of the US? What a dumb question. But not suprising coming from Mr 940 heads and 60 tails is statistically significant.

No, he was born 1 mile from the border in Canada.
25825  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Bug? on: June 06, 2006, 12:49:17 am
You better edit that picture and remove your IP addy. Just a suggestion.

Why? Otherwise we might know he has RoadRunner?
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