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25801  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Which current politician represents you and how would they do if they ran in on: April 21, 2005, 04:31:49 am
That statistic doesn't mean anything.  She's from a state with what, 30 million people or something.  Of course she's gonna get lots of votes, that's what you do when you're from a big state.  If someone had won in North Dakota with 57% of the vote, who would care?  Exactly.  It's no different in California.  The amount of votes she can get in her homestate is no reflection of how a radical like her would do nationally.

In CA, she beat Kerry, Arnold, Davis, Wilson, Gore, Clinton, Feinstein, and so on, and all but Kerry by at least 1 million votes. Kerry only beat Bush by 10 points, but she beat Jones by 20, despite that Bush is a wingnut, and she, and not Kerry, is the most liberal Senator.

And these things don't just scale down. I got 100% of the vote in an election once, but it wasn't Senator from California with 6.95 milliion votes.
25802  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Which current politician represents you and how would they do if they ran in on: April 21, 2005, 04:22:51 am
Ralph Nader, Barbara Boxer, and Russ Feingold.  the first two obviously won't stand a chance if they run in 2008.  as for Feingold, had he not had his second divorce, he could have made it to the presidency.  as it is, not one of them will make it. 

which leaves my second choice -Evan Bayh- as my only viable option at this point. 
 

What about Warner?

after having seen John Edwards being criticized throughout the 2004 campaign as being too inexperienced to lead the country in such turbulent times as we now live in after 9/11, especially given his single term stint in the Senate, i have little reason to believe Mark Warner will fare any better. as far as ideology, he is probably little different from Evan Bayh, but when it comes to determining whom i want to have win the Democratic presidential nomination in 2008, he simply doesn't cut it, as a single term governor of a southern state.  he will be seen as a provincial completely out of his league when dealing with world crises.  i think Evan Bayh fits the needed requirements much better than Mark Warner ever would. 

He'll be more experienced than a 1 term governor elected in 2004. His running for President wouldn't interfere with his job as governor.  Maybe he should think of something to do that would make him seem more experienced with foreign policy.

What about Schweitzer? He knows Arabic and has spent quite a bit of time in the middle east. Wouldn't that be good, a white Christian who understands that area pretty well?
25803  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: What is the most socially conservative county or town in the Northeast? on: April 21, 2005, 04:10:16 am
Here's something to think about. In that ranking of grad schools I did, the top five colleges were in

Palo Alto and Berkeley, CA
Madison, WI
Ithaca, NY
Ann Arbor, MI

You'd probably consider Berkeley, Madison, and Ithaca well to the left of Trotsky, and Palo Alto and Ann Arbor pretty close to Trotsky.
25804  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: What is the most socially conservative county or town in the Northeast? on: April 21, 2005, 04:06:04 am
Have you actually got any evidence for that or by "conservative" do you mean slightly to the right of Leon Trotsky?

By conservative, I meant more conservative than the average college town.  What part of that don't you understand? You seem pretty dense sometimes.

Again, I was talking about the townies, and you're way under-estimating how liberal the average college town is.
25805  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: What is the most socially conservative county or town in the Northeast? on: April 21, 2005, 04:01:47 am
State College is kind of famous for being a conservative college town.

Which is why it voted strongly for Gore in 2000 and even stronger for Kerry in 2004? Hell, in 2004 it almost flipped the county...

Ignoring the 50,000 college students who probably all live on campus.......

When I was talking about the town, I meant the townies.

You seem to underestimate how liberal the normal college campus is. There are plenty of campuses where Kerry got 75% or more. 
25806  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Which current politician represents you and how would they do if they ran in on: April 21, 2005, 03:56:16 am

Also, this happened only roughly 120 years ago, Grover Cleveland actually got married in the White House (the only president to do so) and had his child there too!

Not only that, but it was common knowledge at the time that he had a kid out of wedlock.

The woman he married while President was 21, and he had been her guardian since she was 11. He was 49 at the time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_Cleveland
25807  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Listen to the this DeLay basher on: April 21, 2005, 03:42:00 am
"The time has come that the American people know exactly what their Representatives are doing here in Washington. Are they feeding at the public trough, taking lobbyist-paid vacations, getting wined and dined by special interest groups? Or are they working hard to represent their constituents? The people, the American people, have a right to know...I say the best disinfectant is full disclosure, not isolation."


Guess who it is.
25808  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Which current politician represents you and how would they do if they ran in on: April 21, 2005, 03:36:34 am
Ralph Nader, Barbara Boxer, and Russ Feingold.  the first two obviously won't stand a chance if they run in 2008.  as for Feingold, had he not had his second divorce, he could have made it to the presidency.  as it is, not one of them will make it. 

which leaves my second choice -Evan Bayh- as my only viable option at this point. 
 

What about Warner?
25809  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Which current politician represents you and how would they do if they ran in on: April 21, 2005, 03:34:00 am
Um, California is the biggest state...


So? She's beaten everyone's 1 state total by at least a million votes, except Kerry 2004 in CA.

25810  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: And yet another political quiz site on: April 21, 2005, 03:25:31 am
Here I am.

25811  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Which current politician represents you and how would they do if they ran in on: April 21, 2005, 03:08:39 am
The top vote getter for any candidate in one state in one election in US history.

25812  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Death penalty, crime rates and its affect on society on: April 21, 2005, 03:02:26 am
25813  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: What is the most socially conservative county or town in the Northeast? on: April 21, 2005, 02:39:06 am


Keep in mind how much of the state's population lives in the lean social liberal or social liberal counties.

Centre County (home of Penn State) is socially conservative?

Centre County, outside of State College is socially conservative. The city is somewhat more liberal, with all the college age folks, but overall Penn State really isn't a liberal university. I'd venture to say the students there are probably more conservative then the average college student.

It seems pretty liberal (not when compared to NYU or Brown, of course).  If I go there next year, I'll give you a better idea.

State College is kind of famous for being a conservative college town.
25814  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Death penalty, crime rates and its affect on society on: April 21, 2005, 02:37:59 am
The safest (statistically) states are North Dakota (safest), West Virginia, and Northern New England (vermont, new hampshire, maine). These states all do not have the death penalty. The most dangerous states are Nevada (least safe), Arizona, Louisiana, Maryland, South Carolina, Florida, Tennesee, Alaska, California, New Mexico, and Texas. All of these states have the death penalty. It does not improve society.

And those areas with a lower crime rate are also far less populated.

New York City, which has 8 million people, has a murder rate below the national average.
25815  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Poor marks for Congress... on: April 21, 2005, 01:18:38 am
Memo to the American electorate:

If you don't like Congress, stop giving them 95% incumbnency rates.

A lot of that has to do with gerrymandering. Some states like NY, NJ and CA have specifically pro-incumbent gerrymandering.
25816  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Evan Bayh vs. Tom DeLay on: April 21, 2005, 01:16:29 am

Why would DeLay get only 50% in Utah, but 60% in Texas?

Some Mormons get sick of crazy southern Republicans.
25817  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Connecticut OKs civil unions for gay couples on: April 21, 2005, 01:13:41 am
woohoo! and no one can whine about judicial activism!

And it was signed into law by a Republican. It doesn't look like there's any chance of defeating her next year.
25818  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: history books on: April 21, 2005, 12:33:51 am
I can think of at least five things wrong with History books

1.They are mostly written by liberals.  This is one area where the left has blatant bias over the right.  They are always big on using PC terms, defining progressive movements and supporting the more liberal figures more than others.


Not true. They are written so that they can be approved by the major states, particularly Texas. This one conservative couple has a lot of say in which books are approved there.  They actually said they're against books that make you think. Evolution is out, memorizing lots of useless facts is in.
25819  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Sick scenario. on: April 21, 2005, 12:29:34 am
I'm against spreading rapist genes through rape, so get an abortion.

that's a little offensive. There are no doubt some good people who are the product of a rape and don't have "rapist genes" that make them scum like their father.

Well, true, but I imagine they're worse off than the average.
25820  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Sick scenario. on: April 21, 2005, 12:07:20 am
I'm against spreading rapist genes through rape, so get an abortion.
25821  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: opebo vs. Jim Talent? on: April 21, 2005, 12:01:44 am
Talent wins 75-21
25822  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Evan Bayh vs. Tom DeLay on: April 21, 2005, 12:00:06 am
25823  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: King County renamed...sort of on: April 20, 2005, 11:44:26 pm

jfern, you must consider that the people who named Rhode Island that also named it Rhode Island. They aren't exactly the brightest fries in the big meal.

I'm not sure why it got its name, but I assume the non-island part is what was called Providence Plantations.
25824  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Look What He's Done to US!!! on: April 20, 2005, 11:39:04 pm
The following are possible district maps for a US Senate
elected from 100 districts that could cross state lines.

The General Rules (in order of priority):

(1) Roughly equal population (about 2.9 million).
(2) Only one district may span the boundary between any
pair of adjoining states.
(3) States entitled to less than one senator should be
kept whole in a single district.
(4) Relatively few states should be grouped together to form senatorial districts.
(5) States entitled to more than one senator should have as many districts totally contained within their boundaries, with one, or at most two partial districts.
(6) Counties should not be split between districts.

6 is a problem because of Los Angeles and Cook counties.
As for 1, You'd definitely have to vary the populations to get 3 and 5 to work.
25825  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: King County renamed...sort of on: April 20, 2005, 11:25:15 pm
It's 22 letters.

Rhode Island and Providence Plantations is 35 letters.
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