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25801  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SCOTUS rules against medical marijuana patients and states rights on: June 06, 2005, 08:28:35 pm
In Bush v. Gore, the majority voted to uphold state law and overturn the opinion of the state supreme court.  The issue was not states' rights, but state legislature and executive versus state judiciary.

Forcing Florida to end it's recount against what its Supreme Court had ruled was not a position of state's rights. It was Bush and not Gore who took the lawsuits to federal court.
25802  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What is your difinition of truth? on: June 06, 2005, 08:25:21 pm

As an aside, I personally take a special case of Euler's equation, which reads as follows:

eiπ + 1 = 0

...to be my personal proof of the existence of God.

Gabu, I am impressed with your posts in this thread, especially since my career in mathematics ended after my first  course in college calculus.

Could you enlighten this layman on the above equation and your take on it? (Don't work too hard, please - I don't expect more than slight enlightenment.)

Eulers formula is e^(it) = cos(t) + i sin(t), where i=sqrt(-1)
It can be derived from the Taylor series of cos(x), sin(x), and e^x.
When you plug in t=Pi, you get
e^(i Pi) =  cos(Pi) + i sin(Pi) = -1.
25803  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Comparing Clinton on: June 06, 2005, 08:01:40 pm
Option 4. I might have given him option 5 if he'd been followed by a reasonable President, but since I see how sh**tty a President can be, I give him option 4.
25804  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Lebanon election on: June 06, 2005, 07:16:19 pm
48% voted for the terrorists in the US

Keep those comments up, and it'll be a majority.
25805  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Kerry tries to defeat Bush again on: June 06, 2005, 06:39:02 pm
Ever heard of the planned bombing of the LA airport in 2000 that was prevented?

That was a lucky break, and not part of an organized anti-terrorism strategy.  The officer who foiled the plot even admitted to that.

Yeah, you're right, they didn't get a memo about that one. The 8/06/01 memo titled "Bin Ladin determined to strike in US", on the other hand.....
25806  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Are you happy with the state of your party? on: June 06, 2005, 06:15:52 pm
Not really. The Republicans are too dominated by southern populists, who don't give a damn about the economy and run on social issues only. Doesn't anyone remember Reagan, who actually held non-defense spending down in the eighties? How about Barry 'I don't care if our soldiers are straight, as long as they shoot straight' Goldwater? 

I completely agree. The economic illiterates of the fundamentalist bloc have succeeded in making the GOP lurch to the left on economics and right on social issues. W. is the ideal man for those "populists", but true conservatives are going to have to look elsewhere.

Left on economic issues? I don't think so. Every single Republican Senator voted for the bankruptcy bill.
25807  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: If the Downing Street Memo is proved to be true... on: June 06, 2005, 06:14:21 pm
What would the charges be in your articles of impeachment?

Something considerably more substantial than lying about a blow job.
25808  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Kerry tries to defeat Bush again on: June 06, 2005, 06:00:40 pm


By the way, the war on terror will never be won until the world ends.

How 1984ish.
25809  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Kerry tries to defeat Bush again on: June 06, 2005, 05:59:10 pm
Again, the memo is fact.

It's actually only one document in a long list of documents showing that Bush was planning to invade Iraq since 1999.

If he'd only spent as much time pre-9/11 reading memos about terrorism as he spent planning an invasion of Iraq, we wouldn't be in this mess.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/6/5/184322/3073

Bill Clinton did not take terrorism seriously even after 1993 Waco, the 1993 WTC bombings, the 1995 OKC bombing, and the rash of school shootings in 1998-2000.  So, how can you criticize Bush for being lax on terrorism before 9/11, when his predecessor did not take it seriously.  Sure, Clinton looked at Osama Bin Laden and even tried to punish Saddam Hussein, but he didn't actively try to remove the thorn in the world's side, known as Saddam Hussein.

Only George W. Bush had the guts to take a big political gamble and remove the threat from Iraq.  I do admit that the Bush administration went into Iraq without a plan to win the peace (such as why we're in the insurgent mess today), but at least he tried.  I believe he is still actively looking for Bin Laden, just as he is al-Zarqawi and the other al-Qaeda terrorists and terrorists from other organizations.  By the way, Bush won that gamble at least by being re-elected by a bigger margin than he was appointed President in 2000.

I'm not angry, I'm just pointing out the facts how I see them.

Jeff

Ever heard of the 1996 Clinton anti-terorrism bill watered down by the Republican Congress? Ever heard of the planned bombing of the LA airport in 2000 that was prevented? No, well that's because all you have are your biased Republican talking points.
25810  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: If the Downing Street Memo is proved to be true... on: June 06, 2005, 05:50:04 pm
It's cost hundreds of billions of dollars, distracted us from actually fighting terrorism, made us lose much credibility.

Perhaps, but not the point. How hard is this to understand: No one who matters (ie: swing voters) gives a monkeys about Iraq now. No benifit can be gained from it. Banging on about it is a complete and utter waste of time.

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There's a troop shortage there. Why don't you sign up, warmonger?

At what point in the above post did I say something that can justify that sort of absurd statement? Am I a warmonger? No. Nowt at all. I am not a warmonger and I resent being called one; I hate war. I also hate the whole trendy-modish-counter culture yuppy-scum dominated "anti-war movement" and pretty much all it stands for. I'm an old fashioned war-hating Nonconformist and d*mn proud of it. I strongly take offense to being libeled as a warmonger and I ask you to take it back.

Do you favor or oppose the war in Iraq?
25811  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: America's Best President (Round 1: Bracket 1) on: June 06, 2005, 05:44:47 pm
1. Teddy Roosevelt
2. Chester Arthur
3. Grover Cleveland
4. Benjamin Harrison
5. William MicKinley
25812  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: If the Downing Street Memo is proved to be true... on: June 06, 2005, 05:33:04 pm
1. It's The Times. There's no "of London" on the end (this is a pet hate of mine...)
2. No one cared about it over here when it was a sort of one hit wonder news story.
3. I'd go so far as to call it a non story.

And now for a bit of advice: no one cares about Iraq anymore. Not a single vote can get switched by it now. No one cares whether intelligence was slightly edited or not; most people seem to assume that *all* intelligence is. I think it's time to let the dog die, don't you? If the American left want to get themselves into a hysterical bubble over this they're d*mned fools. And if they do I think it would be time for the Democratic party hysterical to wash it's hands of the American left.

It's cost hundreds of billions of dollars, distracted us from actually fighting terrorism, made us lose much credibility. There's a troop shortage there. Why don't you sign up, warmonger?
25813  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: If the Downing Street Memo is proved to be true... on: June 06, 2005, 05:23:28 pm
For a Democratic president, the DSM would be huge news.

But since much of our broadcast media is conservative-baised and scared to take on the Bush administration, there's barely been a word about it. The media is too busy analyzing Howard Dean's every word and ignores issues that truly matter (like this memo).

Our media truly sucks. They haven't been doing their jobs since 9/11. Bush and his cronies have basically gotten a free pass on most of their gaffes.



At least they occasionally criticize Bush now. They never did that in the first year after 9/11.
25814  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Lebanon election on: June 06, 2005, 05:21:16 pm
Terrorists win free elections. Too bad.
25815  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Most popular president on: June 06, 2005, 05:19:23 pm
Candidates would be Washington, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, and Eisenhower.
25816  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SCOTUS rules against medical marijuana patients and states rights on: June 06, 2005, 04:38:08 pm
So, how about them liberal activist judges? Tongue

This ruling is exceedingly activist and liberal. The federal judiciary has just overridden state legislation which had no bearing on the laws of other states.

Not that I care for marijuana use: I'd just as well see all of those 'patients' die than tolerate them taking one puff of that filth.

How is it liberal when liberals disagree with the ruling?

Liberals like Stevens, Souter, Breyer, and Ginsberg?

The two most conservative justices (Thomas and Rehnquist) dissent and the four most liberal justices lead the majority with the most liberal writing the majority opinion.  How can liberals say this was not a liberal ruling?

I agree with the ruling, but it is a very liberal ruling.

Center-left does not mean liberal. Yes, I'm confused to why 7 of the judges voted the way they did, but Kennedy's and Scalia's votes make sense.

Not that there is really any logic to SCOTUS rulings. There have been two SCOTUS cases involving state election laws in recent years. One case had to do with whether the law could be made more favorable to third parties (like New York) in some state. The other case was Bush vs. Gore. Both are seen as state's rights issues, and none of the 9 justices voted the same way (pro state's rights / anti state's rights) on those 2 cases.
25817  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Stem Cell Research May No Longer Be a Moral Issue on: June 06, 2005, 03:33:59 pm
Obviously they should use whatever works best, and tell the Reagan hating Republicans to go screw themselves.

I hope you are not arguing that they hate Reagan just because they are opposed to something that could have, in theory, saved his life or something? That's ridiculous.

Nancy Reagan and Ronald Reagan Jr. are very pro-stem cell research.
25818  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SCOTUS rules against medical marijuana patients and states rights on: June 06, 2005, 03:30:21 pm
Freedom loses again. I'm surprised that O'Conner got it right and equally surprised that Scalia got it wrong.

you're suprised Scalia voted authoritarian?

No, kidding, he's the least surprising. What's suprising is Rehnquist voting no, and Ginsburg voting yes.
25819  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SCOTUS rules against medical marijuana patients and states rights on: June 06, 2005, 03:29:20 pm
So, how about them liberal activist judges? Tongue

This ruling is exceedingly activist and liberal. The federal judiciary has just overridden state legislation which had no bearing on the laws of other states.

Not that I care for marijuana use: I'd just as well see all of those 'patients' die than tolerate them taking one puff of that filth.

How is it liberal when liberals disagree with the ruling?
25820  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SCOTUS rules against medical marijuana patients and states rights on: June 06, 2005, 03:26:33 pm
Holy sh**t, that's a weird break down of the court.
They must have all been stoned when they did this ruling.
Well, even though I don't like the 3 dissenters, I still disagree with this ruling.
25821  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Stem Cell Research May No Longer Be a Moral Issue on: June 06, 2005, 03:24:00 pm
Obviously they should use whatever works best, and tell the Reagan hating Republicans to go screw themselves.
25822  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Kerry tries to defeat Bush again on: June 06, 2005, 03:22:10 pm
Again, the memo is fact.

It's actually only one document in a long list of documents showing that Bush was planning to invade Iraq since 1999.

If he'd only spent as much time pre-9/11 reading memos about terrorism as he spent planning an invasion of Iraq, we wouldn't be in this mess.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/6/5/184322/3073
25823  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: 2008 News on: June 06, 2005, 03:17:03 pm
Sen. Hilliary Clinton raises $500,000 for her reelection to Senate...

I would have thought more than that. Angelides raised over $12.5M and Westly wrote himself a $10M check. They're the two Democratic candidates for CA governor.
25824  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Kerry tries to defeat Bush again on: June 06, 2005, 03:01:43 am

Brain Dead Crook??  The British GOVERNMENT has not denied that this is autehntic.  Maybe it will turn out to be nothing (if investgated correctly I doubt it), but it is somethuing that should get attention & be looked into

Ditto for the Bush adminstration. The memo is fact.
25825  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Make a guess on: June 06, 2005, 02:20:31 am
I noticed this fact after the last election too. Gore (and Kerry this time) won states by relativelty narrow margins, with only DC, NY, RI and last year DC & MA giving the Democrats over 60%. Bush seemed to win a lot of states with over 60%, he had few narrow victories. This of course was the reason for his electoral college success in 2000.

One of my biggest hopes of 2004 was for Connecticut to give Kerry over 60%, but that ended up being another dissapointment in an election with many.

Change in vote from Gore to Kerryamoung Democratic states

NJ -3.21
NY -1.84
HI -1.78
DE -1.61
CT -1.60
RI - 1.57
MD -0.66
MI -0.05
IL 0.22
PA 0.32
CA 0.86
WI 1.87
MA 2.04
WA 2.69
MN 3.18
DC 4.02
OR 4.39
ME 4.52
VT 8.31

Switchers:
IA 0.69
NM 1.14
NH 3.44

Kerry ran better than Gore in the most northern states, and worse than Gore in the NYC area. It looks about the same once you weight for state size.
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