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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton address in Reno to focus on Trump's ties to Alt-Right/White Nationalism on: Today at 02:18:35 pm
I hate Hillary's "serious and stern" voice that she uses in speeches like this. It comes off as condescending and fraudulent, and undecideds watching this, while likely agreeing with her that Trump does have a serious issue with Alt-right support, will see her for what she is as well.
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida 2018: Mike Huckabee for governor? on: Today at 02:16:12 pm
^^Of course, I was firmly convinced that Rubio wasn't running for reelection until a week before he made his announcement when someone in the know told me that it was actually more than media hype, so who knows?
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Florida 2018: Mike Huckabee for governor? on: Today at 02:15:11 pm
I brought this up a month ago. It won't happen, the party is firmly behind Putnam.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kind Trump supporters are nice to a Clinton supporting family on: Today at 02:14:07 pm
As for the "They do it too!" argument, as much as I hate them, the looney left only curses out their professors on college campuses. The rabid right drives truck loaded with explosives in front of buildings, flies planes into IRS buildings,  shoots doctors in the middle of church services, shoots up Planned Parenthood clinics, plants bombs at the Olympics, and mails Anthrax to Planned Parenthood.
Ok. We aren't talking about organized acts of domestic terrorism, we're talking about neighbors turning on neighbors.

Radical leftists blew themselves up while plotting to bomb and maim soldiers and their girlfriends/wives at any army dance at Fort Dix, bombed the Capitol Building, kidnapping, raping, and brainwashing heiresses, the violent assassination of police officers, not to mention those peaceful acts of storming Trump rallies and beating up grandmas, egging women, punching men on the street, shutting down bridges during rush hour in San Francisco, attacking shoppers, and so on.

Face it, there is a violent undertone that the left has adopted and implemented on many occasions. Violence is a core part of the "revolutionary" ethos that many take.
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Barack Obama 25 years from now on: Today at 12:17:09 pm
As the Democratic Reagan
A completely bland and largely overrated cult figure?
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Daughter of Sen. Manchin raises EpiPen price 400% on: Today at 12:16:09 pm
Same daughter with the purchased WVU degree?
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kind Trump supporters are nice to a Clinton supporting family on: Today at 11:24:29 am
I fail to see how this is comparable to the numerous acts of violence committed by Bernie supporters, which include assaulting Trump and Clinton supporters on the street, violently shutting down caucuses, cyberstalking (as one of our best Atlas posters can attest too), intimidation, threatening phone calls, doxing, publicly naming the hotel rooms of Clinton delegates, starting riots at rallies, egging, burning counter protesters flags and signs, and so on.

Then there is the broader violence of the political left (a handful of BLM folks shutting down bridges, assaulting Black Friday shoppers, etc) as well this year.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Takeover of the Nerds II: Revamped, Redone, and Really Great! on: August 24, 2016, 06:37:47 pm
I am shocked that Mormons are voting for a pro-gay, anti-war Republican but me and Cathcon are going to make America America again so it's all cool.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: FL-19: Dan Bongino explodes during recorded call with reporter on: August 24, 2016, 06:32:08 pm
I mean,
It will likely be a Clinton district so the dem should be favored for the general right?
You call me arrogant for being (relatively) informed and then you say that FL-19, which gave Obama 38% of the vote four years ago, a "likely Clinton district" and wonder why I don't take your claims about me seriously?
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Cult of Personality Election on: August 23, 2016, 11:49:40 am
Only Atlas would vote for a guy whose claim to fame is getting his brains spread across Dealey Plaza over freakin Gandhi.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Former FNC host sues; claims sexual harassment by Ailes, O'Reilly, Scott Brown on: August 23, 2016, 11:11:56 am
CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT: Does anyone think that the number of women suddenly coming forward at Fox has anything to do with Trump's threat to "spill the beans" on Ailes? I don't think Trump is running for President and trying to sabotage his own campaign in order to create Trump TV and hand the election to Hillary, but I do wonder if Trump is looking at destroying Fox News's monopoly among conservatives in order to give himself a potential post-election career that still keeps him politically relevant.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Former FNC host sues; claims sexual harassment by Ailes, O'Reilly, Scott Brown on: August 23, 2016, 11:08:23 am
It shows how little I watch Fox considering the fact that I thought Tanteros was still on the air.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Would Sittenfield be doing better than Strickland? on: August 23, 2016, 09:00:25 am
I actually would be curious to know myself. My guy says yes. Younger, more charismatic, etc.
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: 12-year old running Trump campaign in Denver suburb county on: August 23, 2016, 08:55:57 am
So this kid is going to skip school on Election Day in order to get people to the polls?  His teachers should schedule some big tests that day, worth a large fraction of his grade for the semester.  Then don't give him the option to take it later.

Also:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/22/politics/weston-imer-12-year-old-donald-trump-campaign-colorado/

Quote
At the August 3 rally, Weston said he supported the pair because he wanted to feel more safe at school.

"If we do not elect Mr. Trump and Mr. Pence, school shootings could triple under the next four to eight years under the poor leadership of Hillary Clinton," Weston said.


Trump supporters are such a collection of wackos and freaks.

I'm sure it must have taken a lot of courage to insult a twelve year old using their own sixth grade vocabulary
We had better insults in the sixth grade. That is a vocabulary of a third grader, actually.

Gotta keep it at a level Trumpers can comprehend.

And he bravely continues his assault on the twelve year old.

Well, I'll cut him a little slack, because I'm sure he got it from parents, so they're really at fault for propagating this freak, but I certainly hope he doesn't have access to any guns.
Don't you have a Red Pill blog to update?

Don't you have drugs to take?
No, but I'm sure you have some meds that you ought to go back on. Anyone who wants to attack a kid ought to be on them.
So you need to be on the as well, since you attack them as well.
Que?
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump: Joe and Mika have been dating for years on: August 23, 2016, 08:53:08 am
We all have been thinking this for years though. The sexual tension on that show is thick enough to cut with a knife.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton address in Reno to focus on Trump's ties to Alt-Right/White Nationalism on: August 23, 2016, 08:50:39 am
This is a very unique line of attack and I will be interested to see if it gains more traction coming directly from her rather than her surrogates.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Swift-Flop: An Alternate 2004 Election on: August 23, 2016, 08:48:48 am
Great job so far!
18  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Mother and son in love in N.M. will go to jail to defend their relationship on: August 23, 2016, 12:52:41 am
But there really is no reason to feel that "transgenderism" is "icky" personally. That is like saying "I support the civil rights act, but I don't want blacks moving into my neighborhood personally."
No, it's more like the opposite of that. It would be like saying you personally don't want to hang out with black people, but you fully support the Civil Rights Act and integration and nondiscrimination and equality. I find something "icky"... and I'm fine with it.

I also find mustard gross. Am I trying to ban mustard? No. I just won't eat it for myself.


This whole post just demonstrates how you and others here don't seem to be truly listening. There is no reason to feel anything is "icky"... it's a feeling, an admitted inherent bias, not the result of a thought process. No one chooses what they find "icky."
Dude, in 2011, I had this weird "icky" feeling about hanging out with black people and I was rightfully lambasted for being a racist. Turns out that my "icky" feeling was actually just a nasty manifestation of years of internalized rage that I let loose on people who were no actual threat to me to be "edgy."

You don't have to be attracted to Trans-people or people outside of your race. You can't control that. But if you have a "natural icky" feeling towards a transgender person, chances are, it is not natural at all and that you are projecting your own bizarre fears/emotions/desires/anger on someone.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: FL-Sen: Rubio vs. Beruff vs. Murphy vs. Grayson on: August 23, 2016, 12:46:06 am
Rubio won a primary straw poll in Sarasota County. Here's where that county is:




U.S. Senate:
Marco Rubio: 247 (57.4%)
Carlos Beruff: 183 (42.6%)

U.S. Congress (FL-16):
Vern Buchanan (inc.) : 366 (90.4%)
James Satcher: 39 (9.6%)

https://m.facebook.com/notes/republican-party-of-sarasota-rpos/sarasotagop-straw-poll-results/10155010526755278

Seems a tidge underwhelming, but still a comfortable win.


Yikes! I'm going into slight panic mode, especially after having a nightmare last week where Beruff defied all odds and won the primary (not kidding BTW). Is this a particularly strong area for Beruff/weak area for Rubio, Florida people?
Actually it's Beruff's home turf. He's a major developer in that area.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How large of a Clinton win is needed to "send a message?" on: August 23, 2016, 12:45:04 am
No message and no size of message will matter if the Republicans still control the House.

Incorrect.  The House has no say over appointments to the judiciary or the federal agencies.
Well good luck getting to 60 Democrats in the Senate to stop the Republicans in their advise and consent role then.

Go ahead.  Remember what happened when the Senate GOP would not stop filibustering Obama's three nominees to the D.C. Circuit?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senates-filibuster-decision-could-reshape-influential-dc-federal-appeals-court/2013/11/21/3b3fd76a-52de-11e3-a7f0-b790929232e1_story.html
Ah yes, the nuclear option was so, so, so popular among voters in the 2014 Senate races Roll Eyes
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How large of a Clinton win is needed to "send a message?" on: August 23, 2016, 12:42:31 am
No message and no size of message will matter if the Republicans still control the House.

Incorrect.  The House has no say over appointments to the judiciary or the federal agencies.


Good luck passing a budget.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: John Oliver makes the Trump bit to end all Trump bits. on: August 23, 2016, 12:40:26 am
I thought it was good.
It was vastly superior to Drumpf, which was really, really, really lame, especially for John Oliver who usually is among the best.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump to supporters: 'go out and watch' on election day on: August 23, 2016, 12:39:46 am
You guys are aware that precincts require people to stand like a couple hundred feet away, right? Even if a hundred Trump supporters show up with signs, they'll be so far away from the doors that no reasonable person would be intimidated. And if they went over the line (usually marked with traffic cones), a police officer will be on hand to keep them back.

I'm not sure why you are assuming these will be people with signs.  Every state I know of has prohibitions on electioneering activity within a given range of a polling place, but I don't know of any prohibitions that extend to "observing," which is what Trump is asking for.  If people show up in polling places and claim they have the right to stay and watch, I'm not sure most states even have statutes to deal with that.

And, yes, I've worked the polls too.  I've even had someone show up and claim they can observe.  Fortunately it was a low-turnout primary, because dealing with him, looking up the state statute, and figuring out how to get rid of him when he demanded to check voter signatures was a serious distraction.

Do I think this will be a serious source of systematic intimidation?  Almost certainly not.  Do I think this is a mind-numbingly stupid thing for a Presidential candidate to say?  Yes.  And, more to the point, I don't think Trump cares, and it's another manifestation of personality traits that make it baffling to me that you are remotely satisfied that he's your nominee.

Of course, the hysterical Clinton-klan and their conspiracy theories cannot be met with any form of logical or civil debate, but whatever, keep on making up stories if it makes you guys feel safe.

Are you seriously addressing me?  Look at my recent history.  I just spent several posts arguing against people downplaying the email issue for Clinton.

Again, I am far more worried that the BLM movement might pull their usual tactics of blocking critical places. They shut down a bridge in San Francisco on rush hour, they blocked Department Stores on black Friday and shoved shoppers who tried to enter anyway, and they frequently enter crowded cafes and stores to make their points. While I am on the whole supportive of the movement, lets be real here about who is more likely (if at all) to go out and cause trouble on election day.

...

Of course, Atlas Democrats, 90% of whom are one year newbie trolls, will keep making these stupid threads and I think it is correct to note that if anyone is inclined to act violently at the polls, it is the BLM movement. As I mentioned, I am supportive of Black Lives Matter and I think their voice should be taken more seriously by Trump, and I don't think that BLM will cause any disruption on election day. But given their history, or worse, the history of the young white male Bernie supporters (remember Nevada?), I think if anyone is going to be facing intimidation at the polls, it will be Trump supporters.

I think your observation that the left has been more likely than the right to engage in this behavior recently is true.  But, dude, you literally just responded to a post entirely written to complain you weren't addressing my argument (after your "have you not followed this election at all?" condescension) by ignoring my argument again.

I think the tendency to inhibit democratic participation is often a function of which group is most convinced that democracy is illegitimate.  The Sanders supporters and BLM people definitely fit that bill.  However, it's not like Trump supporters don't have those tendencies too, and we now see Trump actively trying to plant the seeds of distrust in the legitimacy of democracy.  If there's anything that's going to make his supporters higher-risk than the Sanders and BLM people, it's Trump saying stuff like this.

And, regardless of the ultimate effect, let me reiterate my main point again: this is a stupid, irresponsible thing for Trump to be saying and he does not care.
The last two posts were directed towards that the I-CA avatar who spews white noise, not you, so please don't take those attacks personally, they were not intended to be directed at you. As to your arguments, you are making a false image of the average Trump supporter to fit this narrative that Trump's talk is dangerous. The average Trump supporter isn't the neo-Nazi biker. The average Trump supporter is a middle class white American who has no desire to turn their anger on anyone in any way other than at the ballot box.

If Trump supporters show up at the polls to watch, you'll see nothing more than a crowd of 48 year old white housewives with Make America Great Again signs and tacky red white and blue clothing apparel. These aren't Golden Dawn activists were talking about here.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How large of a Clinton win is needed to "send a message?" on: August 23, 2016, 12:29:45 am
To me, anything over 10% will be seen as a solid rejection of Trump. I don't think Hillary will come close to that.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: John Oliver makes the Trump bit to end all Trump bits. on: August 23, 2016, 12:28:43 am
He's not funny.
And this idea that Trump's campaign will have turned out to be a joke the whole time is the height of liberal fantasy.  They can't accept that people actually agree with Trump or like him.
Trump derangement syndrome is a thing. Fortunately, John Oliver is probably less influential than Larry Wilmore and anyone who finds this video funny isn't going to vote for Trump anyway.

BTW, I love Oliver. I think he is (usually) funny and this bit wasn't bad at all, but this odd belief that people like Oliver, Jon Stewart, or Trevor Noah have any influence or pull at all is very, very annoying.

Uh, Larry Wilmore doesn't even have a show anymore.  And he wanted to play the race card...against another black person (Trevor Noah).  Hopefully it was just to be ironic/funny.
For someone who seems to really follow these mediocre political comedy shows, that joke sure flew over your head.

Well obviously your comedy is second-rate to all three of these gentlemen.
I never claimed to be George Carlin.
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