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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: You have to get rid of one of the amendments to the Constitution - which one? on: August 29, 2014, 08:26:44 pm
16th Amendment.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Ernest on: August 29, 2014, 05:10:00 pm
I think he is f[Inks]ing with you all in a rather dark way. Still a FF.
3  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Presidential vs. Parliamentary systems on: August 29, 2014, 05:09:24 pm
The Parliamentary system works well in Britain, but it isn't for America and should never replace our current system.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Buchanan: Hillary has never been right on Foreign Policy. on: August 29, 2014, 05:08:16 pm
I love this argument.  "Pat Buchanan might be a racist, anti-Semitic Hitler fanboy, but..."

Once that's on the table, who cares what this creep thinks?   Nobody has less credibility on foreign policy than someone who wrote a book trying to rehabilitate Adolph Hitler's reputation.  Do you actually take Pat Buchanan seriously?
Buchanan was very, very influential in the Nixon White House. His role was mostly focused around domestic political events, but the Nixon foreign policy achievements are among the greatest of the last century, and he was a senior advisor, so you know, maybe he does have a bit more street cred than you claim.....

Great...  Not only is this guy a rabid anti-Semite, racist and Hitler lover, but he worked in the Nixon White House too!?  Seriously, if you're angry at Obama for foreign wars, civil liberties violations and such, wasn't Nixon 800,000 times worse?
Just about even. Nixon's use of bugging was a continuation of Kennedy/Johnson policies. Nixon also at least made an effort to end the Vietnam War where as Obama has dragged his feet in Afghanistan (though, to his credit, he got us out of Iraq), and finally, Obama is just generally incompetent. Beet said it best today, even though I disagree with his angle:

Will the heavens open up and a light beam shine on the messiah to lift him up into the skies? Is that how far above it all he is?

He has always been this way (see the 2012 domestic policy debate between him and Mitt) but the enthusiasm of his supporters and historical events have always allowed him to get away with it, and come away looking cool and collected. During 2012, Bill Clinton made the case for him since he wouldn't do it himself. He probably thinks the American people aren't worthy of being convinced by his majesty.

This year however, has been annus horribilis. Obama is totally paralyzed in the Middle East, as he has been since 2011. The vacuum of U.S. support for moderate rebels in Syria has allowed ISIS to revive itself from the near death it was at when Obama came into office. Now the U.S. has no one to support, and Osama bin Laden's dream of a translational Islamist caliphate is reality. China has been increasingly aggressive ever since Obama came into office, and relations are now at their lowest point since 1972. Obama's pivot to Asia now looks either premature or a half-hearted attempt at containment. Russia- I need not even speak of this. One needs only to watch the professor lecturing Mitt Romney during 2012 about Russia's benevolence. ag is right about Russia- Putin is a bully who will only make more and more land grabs so long as he is allowed to get away with it. And Obama has more or less said he is going to let Putin do it. I guess that's what he meant by a "reset." Israel-Palestine is as bad as ever. No U.S. Secretary of State has been so openly mocked, insulted, humiliated, and disrespected by the Israeli government than John Forbes Kerry, a man who wanted the SoS job in the first place so he could help Israel and Palestine resolve their conflict. Obama has failed to stand up to his man in the State Department and shown the complete impotence of the U.S. foreign ministry, as well as his administration, in influencing Israel.

And finally ebola- international organizations have been screaming about this for months. Obama has never said a word about this, as far as I can tell, it is not even on his radar, even now. International organizations are overwhelmed. The fact of the matter is, the U.S. ought to be a world leader in the response here (as the most advanced biotechnological nation), and it is in our interest to respond because it is only going to get more costly the bigger it blows.

These things are all getting worse every day.

And where is Obama? Golfing.

Nixon achieved an arms agreement with Russia. Obama is mocked by Russia. Nixon silently let Israel do as they pleased with quiet military support-Obama just talks about peace yet has made no effort to assist either side.

Finally, you make a fair point that Buchanan is an anti-Semite. That is well documented, and even supporters like me wonít refute this. But was he right on non-intervention? Yes. Not wanting war with Hitler does not equate to supporting Hitler. But that is another debate for another time.

Of course he'd say this. He's in the same tradition as isolationists such as Abraham Lincoln, William McKinley, Charles Lindbergh and Bob Taft, before the Cold War made conservatives into temporary internationalists.
...what?
I didn't get that either, but the point wasn't bad on the whole.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Which U.S. President do you most closely identify with? on: August 29, 2014, 02:35:57 pm
Personality: Richard Nixon, LBJ
So wait, you are both an introvert and an extreme extrovert at the same time???
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Buchanan: Hillary has never been right on Foreign Policy. on: August 29, 2014, 02:34:50 pm
I love this argument.  "Pat Buchanan might be a racist, anti-Semitic Hitler fanboy, but..."

Once that's on the table, who cares what this creep thinks?   Nobody has less credibility on foreign policy than someone who wrote a book trying to rehabilitate Adolph Hitler's reputation.  Do you actually take Pat Buchanan seriously?
Buchanan was very, very influential in the Nixon White House. His role was mostly focused around domestic political events, but the Nixon foreign policy achievements are among the greatest of the last century, and he was a senior advisor, so you know, maybe he does have a bit more street cred than you claim.....
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: August 29, 2014, 02:32:46 pm

Kasich was never going to run, as much as he wanted too.  If he did, he'd get demolished.  On the other hand, Portman may well run and if he is the nominee, I could definitely see him beating Hillary Clinton, O'Malley, etc.  He's not unbeatable or anything and isn't even unbeatable in Ohio, but a Portman candidacy would scare me infinitely more than Jeb, Christie, Rand, grumpy SoCon candidate #83, Rubio, etc.  He'd be an extremely electable candidate and comes across as a pretty reasonable guy despite being quite right-wing (particularly on economic issues).  Plus the gay marriage thing will give him tons of Moderate Hero cred.  Thankfully, I doubt he can make it through the primaries (although far from impossible given that the big business wing always beats the SoCon wing when the two have their quad-annual clash during the GOP Presidential primaries), but if he does, he's got at least 50-50 odds against any of the Democrats being talked about.
He also was the Obama stand-in during the Romney practice debates and is known to be one of the best debaters in the GOP.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2014 Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: Baker pulls ahead in Massachusetts on: August 29, 2014, 02:24:38 pm
It's implausible there'd be so many undecideds between these two well known candidates two months to the election.
Maybe they hate them both? Or like them both? It's a stretch, but you wouldn't be declaring the poll junk if Coakley had the lead.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Iowa Republican admits being bribed to endorse Ron Paul on: August 29, 2014, 02:22:46 pm
Jesse Benton as in Mitch McConnell's 2014 campaign manager Jesse Benton?
Notice how McConnell and Rand Paul suddenly became friends in early 2013? That had to do with Benton's hiring. He is married to Ron Paul's grandaughter, who he met on the 2008 campaign IIRC.
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of this image on: August 29, 2014, 02:20:46 pm
Crimea should be red though. No way in hell that the Ukraine is getting it back.
11  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Juan Peron on: August 29, 2014, 02:19:54 pm
Al gave the best answer as to what Peronism is back when I asked the question.
Collective national delusion manifesting itself as some sort of ideology.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Collapse on: August 28, 2014, 10:27:34 pm
I'll be following!
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Iowa Republican admits being bribed to endorse Ron Paul on: August 28, 2014, 06:35:16 pm
Is there anything linking Ron Paul himself to this?
I doubt it. Most likely this was Jesse Benton's doing.
Benton seems sleezy, and I wouldn't be surprised if he abused Grandpa-In-Law Ron's trust on this.

Called him out for being a fraud a long time ago. You know, endorsing Don Young "because he's my friend."
To be fair, every politician, insider or outsider, has to be a politician. Rick Santorum stood right behind Arlen Specter as he launched his '96 campaign, and the video shows him applauding throughout his speech even when Specter clearly and staunchly declares his pro-choice views as a reason to vote for him. That doesnít detract from Santorum being genuinely pro-life. Itís just how it is.

Another example is Paulís use of pork. Heíd load bills with pork for his district and vote against them when he knew the bill would pass, so he could have his cake pork and eat it too. Unethical? Yes, but also pretty smart. And he never ran away from it either, he was pretty honest about it. He wanted to shrink the pie, but as long as it is that big, why not have a slice instead of giving it up for Congressman Backbencher (R-MO). 
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Iowa Republican admits being bribed to endorse Ron Paul on: August 28, 2014, 02:30:01 pm
Is there anything linking Ron Paul himself to this?


15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How many reported/moderated/infacted posts/points do you have? on: August 28, 2014, 01:33:42 pm
Reported Posts: 21
Moderated Posts: 8
Infraction Points: 2
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The t_host1 Institute of Comedy on: August 28, 2014, 12:16:36 pm
Jodi Sweetin needs more drug money I guess
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone II - Less Boring, More Whoring on: August 28, 2014, 12:08:09 pm
Just got back from my friend's mother's funeral. It was nice. Some friends from school were also there, so we sat toghether. They all went to lunch (and conspicously didn't invite me, but whatevs) so I went to the burial as well. My friend is doing fine, and the mass was pleasant (it has been pouring rain all day, and the power even went out at one point). I also met a semi-nationally famous local musician (I won't name her or her connection to the family out of respect), which was interesting.
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What would you spend $42 000 from your piggy-bank on? on: August 28, 2014, 12:05:14 pm
I'd invest it and try and get five million so I can buy the original "Like A Rolling Stone" lyrics Tongue.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Teddy Kennedy, 5 years gone on: August 27, 2014, 03:01:54 pm
HYPOCRISY IS NOT AN ERASER KRAZEN
CAPS WILL NOT GET YOU ATTENTION
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Opinion of people who wear hoodies and baggy pants on: August 26, 2014, 10:52:31 pm
Rather annoying when it's summertime in Florida, regardless of race. But is it indicative of criminal activity? The only answer is lol no.
21  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Women in Combat on: August 26, 2014, 08:52:19 pm
Anyone, man or woman, should be able to serve if they can handle it. But no special treatment should be made.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Carson vs. Democrat on: August 26, 2014, 08:22:20 pm
Carson isn't going to lose Missouri or Georgia. Just because he is a black Republican doesn't mean he is Herman Cain or Allen West. He is actually very well spoken. That being said, there still is no chance in hell of him winning the nomination or the White House.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Teddy Kennedy, 5 years gone on: August 26, 2014, 08:05:05 pm
Not big on disrespecting the dead in death threads, but it is 10 years later so those complaining about the disrespect are really just complaining that someone dare say something bad about King Reagan the Great.

*shrug*

Yay.  10 years without that waste of oxygen. 

Burn, Ronnie, burn!

Well, let the tributes to the great Senator Kennedy pour in! Not only was a he world-class Senator, but an excellent swimmer as well Wink.

Why would I whine? Kennedy never accomplished anything. He never was elected to the Presidency. He is mostly remembered for being JFK's brother, giving a damn good speech at the DNC, and Chappaquiddick. About where he should be.
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: The 2014 election season starts (August 26: AZ, FL, OK-runoff, VT) on: August 26, 2014, 06:36:55 pm
Alcee Hastings holds off primary challenges, Domino leading by five in FL-18.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone II - Less Boring, More Whoring on: August 26, 2014, 02:23:07 pm
I'm voting for the first time ever tomorrow. Do I get like a medal from you guys or something?

Sure, if you vote Democrat. Wink
In November I'll vote for the Democratic State Senator from my area, Maria Sachs Tongue.

Anywho, it was very underwhelming. I walked in, the guy took five hours to find my ballot and than spent another five hours staring at my ID while the old lady from three houses down from me stood in line next to me to vote in the Democratic primary. I connected the arrows on the paper ballot, handed it to the lady, got a fancy little sticker, watched her put it into the machine, and went on my merry way.
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