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51  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Van hits Muslims coming out of Finsbury Park Mosque in London several casualties on: June 18, 2017, 11:23:48 pm
Has the terrorist been identified?

While this is likely a "revenge strike" by a racist, ISIS constantly targets fellow Muslims around the world and this could easily be that as well.
I thought that as well, but they'd strike a Shia mosque whereas this is the former Mosque of Richard Reid, the Sunni shoe bomber.

Good point, but all it would take was a would-be ISIS recruit not finding the warm welcome he wanted at his mosque, and deciding they need to die for being "weak".

The method of attack is ISIS boilerplate, so I'm keeping my mind open. Definitely sounds like EDL types, though.
There were three attackers. It would almost certainly be EDL/BNP/National Front weirdos. The suspect was detained by the crowd, but witnesses haven't said anything as to who he was, what he said, or what he looked like.
52  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Death threats, rape threats pouring into "Shakespeare" companies and theaters on: June 18, 2017, 11:18:48 pm
I've had rocks thrown at my windows, Badger. I was also on a bus that was literally freaking rocked by Bernie supporters with the Lt. Governor of Florida on board.

With that kind of experience, I suppose your reaction is understandable.
I posted about this at the time. Another poster dug up video IIRC.

Ironically I'm friends with the rock thrower now, and he doesn't even know it. He didn't crack my window so I have no lasting malice.

Link? I'm not doubting you, I'm just genuinely interested in seeing it.

What window was the rock thrower throwing at? Your house? Your car? Your bus window in the incident you described? And how did you come across to be friends with him?

You would know better than I whether or not it's worth dredging up, but friend or not you really should call him on that as he should rightfully be shamed for such violence. If he is in fact friends with you now he should have the guts and balls to apologize, and realize that there's a human face behind political disagreement and violence.
No, I plan on bringing it up in our next heated debate and taking him by surprise with it? Tongue

The rock hit my window. He didn't throw it hard, and it left a barely noticeable scratch and thankfully no crack. I had a Trump sign in it. He yelled "lock him up" as he did it, and then took off. The light throw suggests he had trepidation before doing it.

Searching the video now.
53  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone V: Born Under A Bad Sign on: June 18, 2017, 11:05:27 pm
I was supposed to leave 'Flarda for the first time in five years tonight, but our flight was delayed six hours and the next flight isn't until 6:00 PM tomorrow, which is too late for me to go. I was looking forward to seeing my brother for the first time since January.

That totally sucks.... Sad

Airlines are becoming increasing crap these days, with overbooking and all that....

Ever considering riding the 'dawg?

Takes a bit more time, but is cheaper and more reliable if you can take an extra days off work next time round....

Done it quite a few times myself back in the days in the West Coast, Midwest, and even in the SouthEast.... It's actually kinda fun and you have more room compared to flying, for what is a relatively "Short Haul" trip....


I have a car, so I could theoretically drive,  but my parents wanted to fly and I wasn't one to complain. I may just do that on my next attempt.
54  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Van hits Muslims coming out of Finsbury Park Mosque in London several casualties on: June 18, 2017, 10:58:59 pm
Has the terrorist been identified?

While this is likely a "revenge strike" by a racist, ISIS constantly targets fellow Muslims around the world and this could easily be that as well.
I thought that as well, but they'd strike a Shia mosque whereas this is the former Mosque of Richard Reid, the Sunni shoe bomber.
55  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Death threats, rape threats pouring into "Shakespeare" companies and theaters on: June 18, 2017, 10:41:36 pm
Trumpists have been disrupting the plays performance. I applaud this.

Friendly reminder that evergreen was banned for less than this!
Disrupting a play. Not death threats or rape threats. I applaud interrupting a play. You know what I meant.
56  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Van hits Muslims coming out of Finsbury Park Mosque in London several casualties on: June 18, 2017, 10:25:18 pm
Sanchez, you really should just finally admit you hate Muslims and want us banned from the West, you clearly believe that even though you say the contrary.
I don't hate Muslims. I have four Kuwaiti Muslim friends in my building who love this country and hope for a reformation in Islam to root out this extremist ideology. Do you think I want my buddies banned from this country?

I certainly wish more Muslims would quit being so passive/defensive and actively root against this as a means to establish the badly needed internal dialogue.

I support banning travel period from Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, and Libya, certainly. I'd love to see more, say, Indian or Indonesian Muslims settle in the United States.
57  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Klartext Landfill for Absurd, Ignorant, and Deplorable Posts VI on: June 18, 2017, 10:20:28 pm
Nobody has said that and that doesn't change the fact that Islam has a cancer growing from within.

Edit: The Mosque has been in the past associated with radical Islamists, which pretty much makes certain what we all know already. This is an act of terror regardless. Vigilantism is terrorism in and of itself.

Sanchez... you disappoint my friend.

My sister lives a few blocks away, and the "One Handed Preacher" who was an Al Qaeda militant associated with OBL, had long been purged from the Mosque a decade ago from both within and without....

This was a story recounted to me ten years ago, when I was there three blocks away (!!!) that was well known in the community, so please do not attempt to excuse Terrorist assaults against Muslims in the UK at the hands of Racist English Terrorist "Lone Wolf's".

It's the Middle of the Night in the UK now, so haven't had a chance to talk to my younger Sis, but really?Huh   Have some class Sir.....
What is so classless about pointing out the OP's annoying double standard? This was an act of terror, and we all know why this hate filled monster was radicalized to lash out at the Muslim community.

MY Double Standard? That is so f'ing hilarious! Once again you twist my words to attack me, apparently that is all you're good at Sanchez.
You don't seem particularly interested aside from empty platitudes on Atlas about the problem. The scourge of religious radicalism can only be eradicated by the religious community. If a Baptist terror cell is operating in Tallahassee, it is incumbent on the Baptist community to ensure that such actions are perceived as being unpopular, undesirable, and unhelpful. Frankly, the Muslim communities in the west are failing at this, as polls show.

This attacker would not have struck if there were no Manchester attacks. As far as I'm concerned, he's de facto radicalized by Islam as well. His actions are undeniably tied to London and Manchester.

IDK if this doesn't meet the standards of this thread, but dude appears to be fully justifying an assault involving a vehicle outside of a Mosque in London, and already blaming the victims just  because they are Muslim, without knowing any further details.

This is my Sister's neighborhood and the Dude goes totally "on-tilt" with an anti-Muslim diatribe?Huh
I'm not justifying this at all and you know it. The fact of the matter is, these crimes will stop in conjunction with Islamic terrorism. Separating the two events does a great disservice to the truth.

You're really naive if you think that'll stop everything.
You're right, Muslim terrorist will continue to kill westerners at a disproportionate rate compared to other faiths no matter what action is taken. That has more to do with Arab culture than Islam. These lone wolves in the west, on the other hand, are not steeped in that culture to the same degree.
58  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Van hits Muslims coming out of Finsbury Park Mosque in London several casualties on: June 18, 2017, 10:19:01 pm
Has this been confirmed to be an intentional attack and not drink driving or something of the sort?
It's terrorism. There is no doubting that this was an act of anti-Muslim bigotry.
59  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Van hits Muslims coming out of Finsbury Park Mosque in London several casualties on: June 18, 2017, 10:12:35 pm
I'm sick and tired of people like Sanchez saying we need to do more, I'm fully aware of that, and I do my part I talk to people, I've reported suspicious people before, I spoke out against my former Imam when he began to go down the rabbit hole. I am tired of the lies and deception being spread about us. We do our part, whether it works or not that is another story, we need help, but not with people like Sanchez. His obsession with me is disturbing.

Telling me what I do is for Atlas and not IRL is offensive and disgusting, you Sanchez, don't have to worry being a white man in redneck Florida, I as a Muslim in the south have much more to worry about than you, a "reformed" nationalist, or what ever you call yourself. If you have something productive about how to solve it, then share with the class, don't sit there and make asinine attacks on me about stuff you don't know, or care to understand, thanks.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Hiding behind privilege attacks. Some spray painted something hateful on your mosque. Cry me a river. People are actually dying on the other hand, and now innocent Muslims are dying because their leaders are not standing against terrorism.

I guess this is part and parcel of living in a big city, right?

You think I'm not aware of that, stop with your sick asinine attacks on me and actually PRESENT ideas on how to solve it. Your obsession over me needs to end. Attacking me is going to solve that right? Start establishing relations with the community and maybe then, they'll want to work on you, you turned this attack into another anti-Muslim tirade and it's going to stop. You think it's a simple solution it is not. American Muslims are more integrated because we feel more welcomed and therefore are more than likely to report suspicious behavior, British Muslims don't feel welcome and therefore are more likely to get radicalized than not.

But the British government and society should do more to make the BM community feel more secured and welcome and then start a dialogue and get their trust, then things will get better. So stop making this about me.
How do British Muslims "not feel welcomed" when 88% of them in the poll I just gave you said they are satisfied with life in Britain? That isn't the problem. Do Muslims in Syria joining ISIS "not feel welcomed?"

This terrorist attack in London tonight is no minor traffic accident gone wrong. It's a serious and evil attack on innocent people. But let's not pretend that this is some sort of deeply rooted problem. It's a primal, animalistic reaction. If I supported the death penalty, I'd like to see this man hang as much as anyone.

Yet you, at the beginning of the thread, decided to shift the blame on the victims and the community as a whole.
I didn't. I voiced my disgust that events are being separated to fit your consistent narrative. Where is that kid from Massachusetts with the "both sides do it!" trope already? We need him for once.
60  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Klartext Landfill for Absurd, Ignorant, and Deplorable Posts VI on: June 18, 2017, 10:10:01 pm
Nobody has said that and that doesn't change the fact that Islam has a cancer growing from within.

Edit: The Mosque has been in the past associated with radical Islamists, which pretty much makes certain what we all know already. This is an act of terror regardless. Vigilantism is terrorism in and of itself.

Sanchez... you disappoint my friend.

My sister lives a few blocks away, and the "One Handed Preacher" who was an Al Qaeda militant associated with OBL, had long been purged from the Mosque a decade ago from both within and without....

This was a story recounted to me ten years ago, when I was there three blocks away (!!!) that was well known in the community, so please do not attempt to excuse Terrorist assaults against Muslims in the UK at the hands of Racist English Terrorist "Lone Wolf's".

It's the Middle of the Night in the UK now, so haven't had a chance to talk to my younger Sis, but really?Huh   Have some class Sir.....
What is so classless about pointing out the OP's annoying double standard? This was an act of terror, and we all know why this hate filled monster was radicalized to lash out at the Muslim community.

MY Double Standard? That is so f'ing hilarious! Once again you twist my words to attack me, apparently that is all you're good at Sanchez.
You don't seem particularly interested aside from empty platitudes on Atlas about the problem. The scourge of religious radicalism can only be eradicated by the religious community. If a Baptist terror cell is operating in Tallahassee, it is incumbent on the Baptist community to ensure that such actions are perceived as being unpopular, undesirable, and unhelpful. Frankly, the Muslim communities in the west are failing at this, as polls show.

This attacker would not have struck if there were no Manchester attacks. As far as I'm concerned, he's de facto radicalized by Islam as well. His actions are undeniably tied to London and Manchester.

IDK if this doesn't meet the standards of this thread, but dude appears to be fully justifying an assault involving a vehicle outside of a Mosque in London, and already blaming the victims just  because they are Muslim, without knowing any further details.

This is my Sister's neighborhood and the Dude goes totally "on-tilt" with an anti-Muslim diatribe?Huh
I'm not justifying this at all and you know it. The fact of the matter is, these crimes will stop in conjunction with Islamic terrorism. Separating the two events does a great disservice to the truth.
61  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Van hits Muslims coming out of Finsbury Park Mosque in London several casualties on: June 18, 2017, 10:08:21 pm
I'm sick and tired of people like Sanchez saying we need to do more, I'm fully aware of that, and I do my part I talk to people, I've reported suspicious people before, I spoke out against my former Imam when he began to go down the rabbit hole. I am tired of the lies and deception being spread about us. We do our part, whether it works or not that is another story, we need help, but not with people like Sanchez. His obsession with me is disturbing.

Telling me what I do is for Atlas and not IRL is offensive and disgusting, you Sanchez, don't have to worry being a white man in redneck Florida, I as a Muslim in the south have much more to worry about than you, a "reformed" nationalist, or what ever you call yourself. If you have something productive about how to solve it, then share with the class, don't sit there and make asinine attacks on me about stuff you don't know, or care to understand, thanks.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Hiding behind privilege attacks. Some spray painted something hateful on your mosque. Cry me a river. People are actually dying on the other hand, and now innocent Muslims are dying because their leaders are not standing against terrorism.

I guess this is part and parcel of living in a big city, right?

You think I'm not aware of that, stop with your sick asinine attacks on me and actually PRESENT ideas on how to solve it. Your obsession over me needs to end. Attacking me is going to solve that right? Start establishing relations with the community and maybe then, they'll want to work on you, you turned this attack into another anti-Muslim tirade and it's going to stop. You think it's a simple solution it is not. American Muslims are more integrated because we feel more welcomed and therefore are more than likely to report suspicious behavior, British Muslims don't feel welcome and therefore are more likely to get radicalized than not.

But the British government and society should do more to make the BM community feel more secured and welcome and then start a dialogue and get their trust, then things will get better. So stop making this about me.
How do British Muslims "not feel welcomed" when 88% of them in the poll I just gave you said they are satisfied with life in Britain? That isn't the problem. Do Muslims in Syria joining ISIS "not feel welcomed?"

This terrorist attack in London tonight is no minor traffic accident gone wrong. It's a serious and evil attack on innocent people. But let's not pretend that this is some sort of deeply rooted problem. It's a primal, animalistic reaction. If I supported the death penalty, I'd like to see this man hang as much as anyone.

And lastly, you made this "about you" with your first post. I see you expend your outrage very selectively.
62  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone V: Born Under A Bad Sign on: June 18, 2017, 10:01:50 pm
I was supposed to leave 'Flarda for the first time in five years tonight, but our flight was delayed six hours and the next flight isn't until 6:00 PM tomorrow, which is too late for me to go. I was looking forward to seeing my brother for the first time since January.

My parents flew out of Miami 2 days ago for Germany and they were delayed for like 10 hours. I guess it just rains non-stop in Florida now
We've had little rain here in Palm Beach County, but I'm returning to Tally tomorrow in preparation for the cyclone that is about to hit.
63  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Van hits Muslims coming out of Finsbury Park Mosque in London several casualties on: June 18, 2017, 10:00:53 pm
I'm sick and tired of people like Sanchez saying we need to do more, I'm fully aware of that, and I do my part I talk to people, I've reported suspicious people before, I spoke out against my former Imam when he began to go down the rabbit hole. I am tired of the lies and deception being spread about us. We do our part, whether it works or not that is another story, we need help, but not with people like Sanchez. His obsession with me is disturbing.

Telling me what I do is for Atlas and not IRL is offensive and disgusting, you Sanchez, don't have to worry being a white man in redneck Florida, I as a Muslim in the south have much more to worry about than you, a "reformed" nationalist, or what ever you call yourself. If you have something productive about how to solve it, then share with the class, don't sit there and make asinine attacks on me about stuff you don't know, or care to understand, thanks.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Hiding behind privilege attacks. Some spray painted something hateful on your mosque. Cry me a river. People are actually dying on the other hand, and now innocent Muslims are dying because their leaders are not standing against terrorism adequetly. We can't keep an eye on the more problematic Mosques (which I oppose anyway on civil liberties grounds), we can't put a travel ban on areas most affected by radicalism, and we can't profile. I get the communities opposition to all of those policies. But that means it is incumbent on the leadership of the community to root out these problems.

The fact that you, in Daytona Beach, had to report somebody suspicious is worrisome. Just goes to show that this is a problem in more communities and not just the big cities.
64  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Van hits Muslims coming out of Finsbury Park Mosque in London several casualties on: June 18, 2017, 09:58:32 pm
Nobody has said that and that doesn't change the fact that Islam has a cancer growing from within.

Edit: The Mosque has been in the past associated with radical Islamists, which pretty much makes certain what we all know already. This is an act of terror regardless. Vigilantism is terrorism in and of itself.

Sanchez... you disappoint my friend.

My sister lives a few blocks away, and the "One Handed Preacher" who was an Al Qaeda militant associated with OBL, had long been purged from the Mosque a decade ago from both within and without....

This was a story recounted to me ten years ago, when I was there three blocks away (!!!) that was well known in the community, so please do not attempt to excuse Terrorist assaults against Muslims in the UK at the hands of Racist English Terrorist "Lone Wolf's".

It's the Middle of the Night in the UK now, so haven't had a chance to talk to my younger Sis, but really?Huh   Have some class Sir.....
What is so classless about pointing out the OP's annoying double standard? This was an act of terror, and we all know why this hate filled monster was radicalized to lash out at the Muslim community.

MY Double Standard? That is so f'ing hilarious! Once again you twist my words to attack me, apparently that is all you're good at Sanchez.
You don't seem particularly interested aside from empty platitudes on Atlas about the problem. The scourge of religious radicalism can only be eradicated by the religious community. If a Baptist terror cell is operating in Tallahassee, it is incumbent on the Baptist community to ensure that such actions are perceived as being unpopular, undesirable, and unhelpful. Frankly, the Muslim communities in the west are failing at this, as polls show.

This attacker would not have struck if there were no Manchester attacks. As far as I'm concerned, he's de facto radicalized by Islam as well. His actions are undeniably tied to London and Manchester.

Did hearing about lots of Muslims dying in the Grenfell Tower radicalize him too?
A freak accident? How is that relevant? The fact of the matter is, this man was the evil around him and became it. I'm waiting for the chorus of the usual suspects to begin pushing the narrative that this somehow is totally unrelated to the growing and very serious problem of radicalization in Islam.
Nobody has said that and that doesn't change the fact that Islam has a cancer growing from within.

Edit: The Mosque has been in the past associated with radical Islamists, which pretty much makes certain what we all know already. This is an act of terror regardless. Vigilantism is terrorism in and of itself.

Sanchez... you disappoint my friend.

My sister lives a few blocks away, and the "One Handed Preacher" who was an Al Qaeda militant associated with OBL, had long been purged from the Mosque a decade ago from both within and without....

This was a story recounted to me ten years ago, when I was there three blocks away (!!!) that was well known in the community, so please do not attempt to excuse Terrorist assaults against Muslims in the UK at the hands of Racist English Terrorist "Lone Wolf's".

It's the Middle of the Night in the UK now, so haven't had a chance to talk to my younger Sis, but really?Huh   Have some class Sir.....
What is so classless about pointing out the OP's annoying double standard? This was an act of terror, and we all know why this hate filled monster was radicalized to lash out at the Muslim community.

MY Double Standard? That is so f'ing hilarious! Once again you twist my words to attack me, apparently that is all you're good at Sanchez.
You don't seem particularly interested aside from empty platitudes on Atlas about the problem. The scourge of religious radicalism can only be eradicated by the religious community. If a Baptist terror cell is operating in Tallahassee, it is incumbent on the Baptist community to ensure that such actions are perceived as being unpopular, undesirable, and unhelpful. Frankly, the Muslim communities in the west are failing at this, as polls show.

This attacker would not have struck if there were no Manchester attacks. As far as I'm concerned, he's de facto radicalized by Islam as well. His actions are undeniably tied to London and Manchester.

And why do you care? You're actually pretty wrong, once again, all you do is twist Sanchez. And why should I be responsible for something I had nothing to do with? Get over yourself.
Why do I care? Because I don't want to see a car crash through FSU and then have the local community just say "oh, we never knew he was a problem, gee whiz this is terrible." I'm just saying, the entire community seems to get rather defensive when things like this happen. More work needs to be done, but the numbers show it happening anytime soon when 25% of British Muslims at the very least sympathize with this.
65  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Van hits Muslims coming out of Finsbury Park Mosque in London several casualties on: June 18, 2017, 09:46:21 pm
Nobody has said that and that doesn't change the fact that Islam has a cancer growing from within.

Edit: The Mosque has been in the past associated with radical Islamists, which pretty much makes certain what we all know already. This is an act of terror regardless. Vigilantism is terrorism in and of itself.

Sanchez... you disappoint my friend.

My sister lives a few blocks away, and the "One Handed Preacher" who was an Al Qaeda militant associated with OBL, had long been purged from the Mosque a decade ago from both within and without....

This was a story recounted to me ten years ago, when I was there three blocks away (!!!) that was well known in the community, so please do not attempt to excuse Terrorist assaults against Muslims in the UK at the hands of Racist English Terrorist "Lone Wolf's".

It's the Middle of the Night in the UK now, so haven't had a chance to talk to my younger Sis, but really?Huh   Have some class Sir.....
What is so classless about pointing out the OP's annoying double standard? This was an act of terror, and we all know why this hate filled monster was radicalized to lash out at the Muslim community.

MY Double Standard? That is so f'ing hilarious! Once again you twist my words to attack me, apparently that is all you're good at Sanchez.
You don't seem particularly interested aside from empty platitudes on Atlas about the problem. The scourge of religious radicalism can only be eradicated by the religious community. If a Baptist terror cell is operating in Tallahassee, it is incumbent on the Baptist community to ensure that such actions are perceived as being unpopular, undesirable, and unhelpful. Frankly, the Muslim communities in the west are failing at this, as polls show.

This attacker would not have struck if there were no Manchester attacks. As far as I'm concerned, he's de facto radicalized by Islam as well. His actions are undeniably tied to London and Manchester.
66  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Death threats, rape threats pouring into "Shakespeare" companies and theaters on: June 18, 2017, 09:39:23 pm
I've had rocks thrown at my windows, Badger. I was also on a bus that was literally freaking rocked by Bernie supporters with the Lt. Governor of Florida on board.

With that kind of experience, I suppose your reaction is understandable.
I posted about this at the time. Another poster dug up video IIRC.

Ironically I'm friends with the rock thrower now, and he doesn't even know it. He didn't crack my window so I have no lasting malice.
67  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Van hits Muslims coming out of Finsbury Park Mosque in London several casualties on: June 18, 2017, 09:37:06 pm
Nobody has said that and that doesn't change the fact that Islam has a cancer growing from within.

Edit: The Mosque has been in the past associated with radical Islamists, which pretty much makes certain what we all know already. This is an act of terror regardless. Vigilantism is terrorism in and of itself.

Sanchez... you disappoint my friend.

My sister lives a few blocks away, and the "One Handed Preacher" who was an Al Qaeda militant associated with OBL, had long been purged from the Mosque a decade ago from both within and without....

This was a story recounted to me ten years ago, when I was there three blocks away (!!!) that was well known in the community, so please do not attempt to excuse Terrorist assaults against Muslims in the UK at the hands of Racist English Terrorist "Lone Wolf's".

It's the Middle of the Night in the UK now, so haven't had a chance to talk to my younger Sis, but really?Huh   Have some class Sir.....
What is so classless about pointing out the OP's annoying double standard? This was an act of terror, and we all know why this hate filled monster was radicalized to lash out at the Muslim community.
68  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Who would you have voted for in in past presidential elections? on: June 18, 2017, 09:20:21 pm
With hindsight.

2016: Donald Trump (Republican)
2012: Gary Johnson (Libertarian)
2008: Chuck Baldwin (Constitution)
2004: John Kerry (Democratic)
2000: Pat Buchanan (Reform)
1996: Ross Perot (Independent)
1992: Ross Perot (Independent)
1988: Ron Paul (Libertarian)
1984: Ronald Reagan (Republican)
1980: Ronald Reagan (Republican)
1976: James Carter (Democratic)
1972: George McGovern (Democratic)
1968: Richard Nixon (Republican)
1964: Barry Goldwater (Republican)
1960: Richard Nixon (Republican)
1956: Dwight Eisenhower (Republican)
1952: Dwight Eisenhower (Republican)
1948: Thomas Dewey (Republican)
1944: Thomas Dewey (Republican)
1940: Wendell Wilkie (Republican)
1936: Alf Landon (Republican)
1932: Jacob Coxey (Farmer-Laborer)
1928: Herbert Hoover (Republican)
1924: Calvin Coolidge (Republican)
1920: Warren Harding (Republican)
69  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you support Evergreen's permaban? on: June 18, 2017, 09:09:39 pm
No, as the fascist posters weren't permabanned with her.

Another proof the mods are controlled by the Alt-Right.
How are you not an Atlas running joke like BRTD and jfern yet?
70  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ann Coulter furious at Trump over broken promises on: June 18, 2017, 09:05:32 pm
Ann Coulter makes a living on perpetual outrage. And she's right to be outraged. The DACA decision was most unfortunate. What is she supposed to do though? Vote for Hillary?

Are you actually surprised, given that you followed the campaign and presumably learned about Trump's manner of conduct, that he is full of broken promises and outright dishonesty?

Where is the 'shock' here?  Perhaps the most predictable thing about a candidate like Trump - who promised you the world - is that he would be a colossal disappointment.
It depends on your definition of a "broken promise." DACA was an outright betrayal, but at the same time, as dreadful as it is, I can still see the logic in the decision however much I disagree.

I of course allow for flip-flops. And Trump, while perhaps letting us down a few times, has yet to outright betray our core mission. Look at how he's handled NATO, for example. He scared them into getting concessions. Deportations are at unprecedented levels right now. NAFTA is in the beginning stages of being overhauled.

He's playing the game a bit more nimbly than we expected because of his larger than life personality, but I don't really feel that he's flip-flopped much outside of foreign policy. Trump's foreign policy was half perfect, half terrible during the campaign as it was, and so far, it's been like 99% terrible.
71  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Death threats, rape threats pouring into "Shakespeare" companies and theaters on: June 18, 2017, 09:01:00 pm
I've had rocks thrown at my windows, Badger. I was also on a bus that was literally freaking rocked by Bernie supporters with the Lt. Governor of Florida on board.
72  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Have you ever volunteered for a political campaign? on: June 18, 2017, 08:58:30 pm
ive actually consulted on large campaigns in a dozen states.

No s***? For real? Is that your profession? Was this actual consultation for pay? Inquiring minds want to know. Smiley
The world that you mentioned as "my world" in your next post is the consulting world. The firm I interned for did a lot of digital stuff (promoting tweets, etc) involving social media. I found it rather tedious and preferred to document and verify the ballot petitions that their various clients sent them.

I don't want to name my consultant's name, but he did some big league stuff in one very important and historic election. He's mentioned in several books I have (even if there is only one or two references in the index section Tongue) as well, which gives me something trivial to brag about.
73  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ann Coulter furious at Trump over broken promises on: June 18, 2017, 08:54:03 pm
Ann Coulter makes a living on perpetual outrage. And she's right to be outraged. The DACA decision was most unfortunate. What is she supposed to do though? Vote for Hillary?
74  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Jenner on congressional baseball tragedy: 'Liberals can't even shoot straight' on: June 18, 2017, 08:35:26 pm
Red meat for the blue blazer/"Proud Boys" douches.
75  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Hypothetical: if Putin were to bomb invade a Baltic nation now, in the Trump era on: June 18, 2017, 08:31:38 pm
I don't think Trump makes any difference here. NATO would respond with full force.
Trump would view it as a test of his strength by Putin if anything. Putin knows the line and how far to push it.
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