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51  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: WaPo: FBI uncovered tens of thousands more emails that Clinton didn't disclose on: August 22, 2016, 05:37:52 pm
The lack of an indictment makes the emails a non-issue. You can't indict people on the internet with no law degree or credentials, that is left up to the authorities and the authorities didn't find anything to indict on.
Well yeah, they couldn't indict Hillary on obstruction of justice because they didn't know she obstructed justice. Why is a court ordering the release of more documents today if these newly found and obviously withheld work related emails not a serious sign that something is at the very least suspicious?

The FBI saw these emails already, they are not new to the FBI. What is being ordered to be released is at the request of an extremely right-wing political organization called Judicial Watch wanting the records.
This from the arch-conservative Washington Post, which totally didn't go to war with Richard Nixon or anything like that ever....

Quote from: Washington Post
The FBI’s year-long investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private email server uncovered 14,900 emails and documents from her time as secretary of state that had not been disclosed by her attorneys, and a federal judge on Monday pressed the State Department to begin releasing emails sooner than mid-October as it planned.

Uncovered. These are "previously undisclosed" documents according to the Hill. You are no Goebbels, Dr. Scholl, but I'll give you credit for at least matching them in enthusiasm. At least you do a better job than Baghdad Bob!
52  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Have you purchased any signs/apparel from a presidential campaign this year? on: August 22, 2016, 05:32:08 pm
Purchased? No. But I did pick up a lot of gear from the Trump campaign for free at the Summit. Due to the violent and unstable nature of college aged Bernie bros (case in point, DeadFlagBlues wishing death on Peter Thiel. I didn't think he was a Gawker fan), I am not putting any bumperstickers on my car.
53  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: WaPo: FBI uncovered tens of thousands more emails that Clinton didn't disclose on: August 22, 2016, 05:30:31 pm
I love how the usual suspects cannot actually defend Hillary Clinton, so instead they basically are just calling the average voter and hoping and praying that they won't care. This is a serious public image issue for her. The email albatross is as bad for her as Trump's comments on the Khan family are for him.
No, calling the family of a dead solider horrible names is much worse, but continue on your rants.
Let me rephrase this so the rest of the forum understands what you are trying to say:
SHUT UPZ SHUT UPZ I'M RIGHT I'M RIGHT YOU ARE WRONG SHUT UP.

54  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: WaPo: FBI uncovered tens of thousands more emails that Clinton didn't disclose on: August 22, 2016, 05:28:47 pm
The lack of an indictment makes the emails a non-issue. You can't indict people on the internet with no law degree or credentials, that is left up to the authorities and the authorities didn't find anything to indict on.
Well yeah, they couldn't indict Hillary on obstruction of justice because they didn't know she obstructed justice. Why is a court ordering the release of more documents today if these newly found and obviously withheld work related emails not a serious sign that something is at the very least suspicious?
55  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: WaPo: FBI uncovered tens of thousands more emails that Clinton didn't disclose on: August 22, 2016, 05:19:51 pm
I love how the usual suspects cannot actually defend Hillary Clinton, so instead they basically are just calling the average voter and hoping and praying that they won't care. This is a serious public image issue for her. The email albatross is as bad for her as Trump's comments on the Khan family are for him.
56  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: WaPo: FBI uncovered tens of thousands more emails that Clinton didn't disclose on: August 22, 2016, 05:18:21 pm
So if nobody cares, how come nobody trusts Hillary?

If people cared, she would be losing.
That doesn't answer the question. Why do people think she is more untrustworthy than Trump?

Because the media has done a good job, along with the GOP, of maligning her name down through the years. People believe what they read as opposed to doing research themselves to get the facts.

Also, instead of focusing on all the good Hillary has done, they just focus on the negative hype. Very effective in helping to formulate negative public perception and opinion.
I have been watching CNN on and off in the background today. I have seen one ten minute story in which Christine Quinn started hysterically screaming on the emails and at least two solid hours of Trump coverage, almost all of it on the screen as "BREAKING NEWS" as if a bomb went off.

Hermit, when did you and the Clinton-klan become so conspiratorial? Are the Russians working with Trump and MSNBC to bring down Hillary? Is Trump a KBG plant? Did 9/11 happen to damage Hillary's New York career? Christ, you sound like Orly Taitz but with your head deeper in the sand. You all are worse than the Ron Paul supporters.
57  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: WaPo: FBI uncovered tens of thousands more emails that Clinton didn't disclose on: August 22, 2016, 05:10:50 pm
The sort of people basing their vote on email server maintenance weren't going to be voting for Clinton in the first place.
Nobody is basing their vote on the scandal itself as much as what it says about her character, especially as she continuously makes attacks on Trump. I've never heard the expression "two evils" used so often and so seriously in any election in my lifetime. People might think Trump is a joke, but they certainly don' t view Hillary as this shining beacon of clean politics and honor.
58  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: WaPo: FBI uncovered tens of thousands more emails that Clinton didn't disclose on: August 22, 2016, 05:07:15 pm
So if nobody cares, how come nobody trusts Hillary?

No, the faux scandal did its job. The point is there's nothing more it can do. If ~550 days of email spam didn't move your vote, why would a few more days make a difference?
No difference? Hillary lied to the FBI. She withheld work documents that at best show obstruction of justice, at worst, possibly bribery. She's literally inching dangerously close to Nixonian territory.

Of course, Hillary has an inclination for removing documents. Ask Jeffrey Zeifman and the other members of the House Judiciary Committee investigation.

So if nobody cares, how come nobody trusts Hillary?

If people cared, she would be losing.
That doesn't answer the question. Why do people think she is more untrustworthy than Trump?

If that were the case then why is Trump losing?

The emails would be impactful if it was actually hurting her poll numbers and they aren't since she is  on pace to win by a pretty large margin.
My candidate is losing because he's Trump. I voted for him out of protest and a hope to leave a mark on the Presidency. I don't really care if he wins or loses, but I sure do care about Hillary Clinton becoming our President when these very troubling allegations are floating about. When IceSpear, who so often and so masterfully slayed the Bernie-bros can only say "12 people care. That's it" as a response, then you know that the Clinton-cult has no arguments left.
59  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: WaPo: FBI uncovered tens of thousands more emails that Clinton didn't disclose on: August 22, 2016, 05:01:19 pm
So if nobody cares, how come nobody trusts Hillary?

If people cared, she would be losing.
That doesn't answer the question. Why do people think she is more untrustworthy than Trump?
60  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: WaPo: FBI uncovered tens of thousands more emails that Clinton didn't disclose on: August 22, 2016, 04:58:05 pm
So if nobody cares, how come nobody trusts Hillary?
61  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: WaPo: FBI uncovered tens of thousands more emails that Clinton didn't disclose on: August 22, 2016, 04:52:56 pm
A Judge is ordering a review of 15,000 emails. This is getting big.

Keep saying that. Maybe in 20 years or so.
Wicked rebuttal bro.
62  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: 12-year old running Trump campaign in Denver suburb county on: August 22, 2016, 04:52:16 pm
Is his name Eric Cartman?
63  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: FL-19: Clawson retiring on: August 22, 2016, 04:51:42 pm
Can we get cokehead Trey Radel back? He was a great improvement over Cornelius Harvey McGillicuddy IV.
At this point, his successor's potential successor might be even more interesting. Carpetbagging candidate from Maryland who lost three races there and then moved to FL-18 to run for Congress only to move to FL-19 goes crazy on one of Florida's (usually finest, not this time) reporters.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/go-fck-yourself-you-piece-of-sht-florida-gop-candidate-angrily-melts-down-at-reporter/

Shame, Bongino was one of my favorite candidates, but his shameless carpetbagging and his inconsistency on his residence in Florida was a turn off to me. Also, having had Allen West as my Congressman for a term and getting to know him (yes, I once saw Allen West enough for him to know who I was by name), I am definitely more inclined to a serious candidate like Francis Rooney these days. Not every candidate has to be a Ron Paul style ideologue or a Donald Trump style bomb thrower. 
64  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: WaPo: FBI uncovered tens of thousands more emails that Clinton didn't disclose on: August 22, 2016, 04:42:02 pm
A Judge is ordering a review of 15,000 emails. This is getting big.
65  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Hypothetical: Trump admits to being a Democratic plant in his concession speech on: August 21, 2016, 11:47:00 pm
No matter what happens there will be riots, sadly.
Well, yes, the Berniebots are a very violent bunch.
66  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Ayn Rand on: August 21, 2016, 11:37:28 pm
Complicated FF.
67  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone IV - Hungover on: August 21, 2016, 07:32:14 pm
Currently engaged in the best Twitter war of my life. Ironically, with fellow Trump "supporters" (IE, interlopers) who are calling me a globalist zionist cuck.

Strange... If there were three things I was going to describe you as...
I mean, I do believe Israel has a right to exist so I guess that makes me a Zionist even though I'm very anti-settlement on the whole. Of course, Zionist to this guy is basically an insult.

Oh yeah, and while calling me a Zionist, he also called me anti-Israel. I kid you not.

And to top it off, he looks like Sebastian Bach on meth.
68  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump courting American voters in Israel; estimated 300,000 voters on: August 21, 2016, 07:29:12 pm
I don't think American citizens abroad shouldn't be able to vote in an American election unless they maintain a residence in the United States.
69  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone IV - Hungover on: August 21, 2016, 06:20:52 pm
Currently engaged in the best Twitter war of my life. Ironically, with fellow Trump "supporters" (IE, interlopers) who are calling me a globalist zionist cuck.
70  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Communist Party USA on: August 21, 2016, 05:29:59 pm
Was the Communist Party on the forefront of the American Left at any point at all? Even in their heyday in the 1930s and 1940s, Norman Thomas and the Socialist Party seemed more prominent and during the 1960s, it was groups like the Socialist Workers Party, Freedom Road, Peace and Freedom, etc, that attracted the most attention.
71  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jerry Falwell Jr.: Trump is the next Winston Churchill on: August 21, 2016, 05:06:16 pm

Donald Trump thinks abusing children, tearing families apart, and bombing hospitals is hilarious.  Just another day as a racist real estate developer for him.
Are you talking about Trump or Obama's genocidal drone war?

Just curious: if Obama was killing the same civilians with bombs and snipers, would that be more okay?
No. Keep in mind, your talking to someone who only accepted the Bin Laden raid because the target was Bin Laden.

I don't have a problem with you being against the war, but why call it "Obama's genocidal drone war" when drones kill fewer civilians, as a percentage of total fatalities, than any other military weapon.
The term "genocidal" is hyperbole of course, which is probably the bigger error in the sentence than the drone comparison itself.
72  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Trump is one of the reasons why I didn't support Obama in the '08 on: August 21, 2016, 05:00:55 pm
What even is this?
73  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jerry Falwell Jr.: Trump is the next Winston Churchill on: August 21, 2016, 04:57:32 pm

Donald Trump thinks abusing children, tearing families apart, and bombing hospitals is hilarious.  Just another day as a racist real estate developer for him.
Are you talking about Trump or Obama's genocidal drone war?

Just curious: if Obama was killing the same civilians with bombs and snipers, would that be more okay?
No. Keep in mind, your talking to someone who only accepted the Bin Laden raid because the target was Bin Laden.
74  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jerry Falwell Jr.: Trump is the next Winston Churchill on: August 21, 2016, 04:52:46 pm

Donald Trump thinks abusing children, tearing families apart, and bombing hospitals is hilarious.  Just another day as a racist real estate developer for him.
Are you talking about Trump or Obama's genocidal drone war?
75  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Milo Yiannoplous deposits $100K for charity directly in his personal account on: August 21, 2016, 04:50:12 pm
I wonder what kind of ostentatious, trashy, tacky things he'll spend the money on.
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