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276  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: should panhandling be legal? on: August 28, 2016, 11:47:35 am
Yes. No to any laws that sh*t on the poor for being poor.
It's like when cities put spikes around buildings. Not helping the bigger issue.
277  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which type of True Leftist is more annoying? on: August 27, 2016, 10:50:48 pm
278  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: You Can't Shoot An Idea on: August 27, 2016, 09:52:05 pm

Senator Kefauver In His Signature Cap

  Known nationally prior to his announcement, Senator Kefauver had no issue garnering public support. Those segments of the New Deal Coalition which leaned toward Wallace four years prior became the core of Kefauver's base, energizing the crowds which turned out in droves to hear the senator arrive via dogsled to various rallies to speak in New Hampshire. Frequently arriving in his signature coonskin cap, the senator urged aggressive anti-trust legislation, increased funding for education, and a gradual adjustment into full integration.

  Kefauver's tagline, "The time for pleasantries is over," heavily implied that President Dewey, albeit a talented speaker and negotiator, would rather set aside major issues than work towards solutions. In one televised speech to an audience in Concord, Senator Kefauver famously remarked, "Why is it, exactly, that the presidency has deflated the once-world famous Prosecutor Tom Dewey? How is it he was able to incarcerate Luciano, yet allows Frank Costello to walk free? Was Dutch Schultz more intimidating than Mickey Cohen or Virginia Hill?"

  Kefauver led a special committee of the U.S. Senate in 1950 which investigated these crime bosses among a slew of others. The senator considered the rise of this new wave of crime particularly troubling, and made to make it a point to highlight these figures. This path, as one would expect, made Kefauver a dangerous force to be reckoned with. Those Democratic bosses would never allow a Kefauver-type to come close to winning their nomination, and therefore, with less than a week until the New Hampshire primary, they prompted the introduction of select candidates to run with their support.

  With Kefauver's on-the-ground presence overshadowing the "Write-In Ike" campaign relatively quickly, those governors and mayors of larger states prepared to endorse their own figures. Governor Frank Lausche (D-OH), a press-described "cosmopolitan Democrat," mentioned in January that he would be willing to consider a bid for the nomination if other candidates failed to deliver. Senator Robert S. Kerr (D-OK), a favorite in his region, also expressed an interest in running. Both held off and readied to endorse Truman's choice, but with polls demonstrating a likely Kefauver win, each formally entered the race five days before the first primary.

  Simultaneously, the Republican candidates each treated New Hampshire with seriousness. Whichever campaign were to lose this contest would likely find a daunting path ahead. Senator McCarthy had been gaining ground in the polls and had a real chance at this one. A win for the Wisconsinite would brighten his future shot at the presidency dramatically while losing this early contest could damage his campaign beyond repair. For Dewey, there was no consideration of losing. As Brownell, serving once more as Dewey's campaign mentor, wrote, "[A New Hampshire loss] would end the campaign. Full stop."

   The eventual result served to legitimize the accuracy of polling agencies like Gallup (only off the mark by 2%). The race was called immediately on the Republican side while the closer Democratic race took time. On the evening of March 11th, the results for New Hampshire were finalized. President Dewey and Senator Kefauver won their respective contests.

|R| New Hampshire Primary Returns |R|
Thomas E. Dewey: 56%
Joseph McCarthy: 38%
Robert A. Taft: 3%
Douglas MacArthur: 1%
Dwight Eisenhower: .5%
Sherman Adams: .5%
Others/Invalid: 1%

|D| New Hampshire Primary Returns |D|
Estes Kefauver: 42%
(Write-In) Dwight Eisenhower: 39%
Frank Lausche: 9%
Robert Kerr: 5%
James Delaney: 2%
Harry S. Truman: 1%
Paul Dever: .5%
Henry A. Wallace: .5%
Thomas E. Dewey: .5%
Others/Invalid: .5%
279  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump responds to Clinton Alt-Right Speech Megathread on: August 25, 2016, 10:37:53 pm
Anyone who was paying attention at the time remembers the ugly, racist and xenophobic tactics routinely utilized by the Clinton team in '08 when the race got close (especially the turban thing).

The irony here, though, is that Trump's entire campaign is based in the utilization of similar divisive fear tactics turned up to 11.
280  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: You Can't Shoot An Idea on: August 25, 2016, 05:59:12 pm

President Dewey with Defense Secretary Eisenhower, April 1951

  The Conservative Coalition carefully plotted a road to victory in the upcoming elections. Their leadership believed that President Dewey had been successfully branded too weak in matters of internal affairs. As such, those anti-Dewey Republicans within the coalition dedicated a great deal of time in January concentrating their efforts towards delivering a Congress which would pass McCarthy's amendment along with an array of budget tightening measures. The Wisconsin senator ran his populist campaign from Washington, capturing headlines in the press with every accusation against the present administration.

  President Dewey formally announced his entrance in the race on January 4th. Faced with an uphill battle, the president declared that the nation had reached a "destined crossroads." Proclaiming before state-of-the-art cameras that four more years were well on the way, Dewey explained that espionage was now at an all-time low, homelessness was decreasing at a rapid rate, and that the healthy economy would provide permanent, well-paying jobs for years to come. He also, albeit briefly, covered the precariousness of Senator McCarthy's proposals and how his radical policies could endanger American liberty. Though the press universally praised the president's speech, Dewey failed to serve a dent in McCarthy's rising poll numbers.

  Internally, as described through the autobiographies of Secretaries Cox and Moore, the Dewey Administration was struggling to retain Eisenhower. The Secretary of Defense, having served through the Korean War, in addition to overseeing ongoing conflicts in China, was considering retiring from his post. As these aforementioned memoirs reflected, Eisenhower routinely expressed his disfavor with Dewey's foreign policy direction. In the latter half of 1951, Moore recollected, "Ike threatened resignation. When Dulles left halfway through Korea, the general acted relieved, if only for a time. [Eisenhower] grew more anxious every day, eventually urging Dewey take a proactive lead against Moscow's nuclear program. Our president, stubborn as always, only unplugged his ears when Truman showed up on that television program."

  Dewey and Eisenhower held a series of private, likely heated, conversations in the Oval Office at about this time. Neither man wrote or spoke of the exact details of these discussions, but it was largely assumed by political journalists that the Defense Secretary may have presented an ultimatum: that the president seek an immediate disarmament proposal with the Soviet Union lest he walk. The United States had just recently successfully tested a new atomic/thermonuclear experiment, and Eisenhower feared the Russian authorities would achieve an equal footing within the decade. Dewey made no such effort to reconcile, likely believing he needed to demonstrate strength against the Soviets.

  Secretary Eisenhower resigned from his cabinet post on February 17th, erupting the press into excited panic. The resignation prompted the Democratic machine to move into recruitment overtime. As a direct result of these events, Democrats eyeing a presidential run thus far were, as reports summarized, repeatedly and belligerently discouraged. Representative James Delaney (D-NY), in one instance, suddenly backed away from a widely expected campaign launch due to "personal cause unrelated to public service." Whether these individuals were threatened or not is unclear to this day, but, as one Time Magazine article remarked at the time, "Like it or not, all now appear ready for Eisenhower."

  Ike himself refused to comment towards any leanings on a potential candidacy all through the following weeks. The movement to Draft Eisenhower had caught on with the public, and prominent polling publications demonstrated a tight theoretical race between President Dewey and his former defense secretary. Still, New Deal Democrats were far from willing to allow the nomination of a right-leaning Republican (as they saw it). Frustrated with the direction of his party's leadership in stifling the potential diverse field, well-known firebrand Senator Estes Kefauver (D-TN) became the first official candidate of the Democrats on February 28th.

"Eisenhower Behind Dewey 2 Points in Gallup Poll"
The Washington Post, February 7th, 1952

"Senator Kefauver Embarks on New Hampshire Campaign"
The Tennessean, March 2nd, 1952
281  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: You Can't Shoot An Idea on: August 23, 2016, 08:36:01 pm
Pink Court is a nice touch.

Was hoping you all would get a kick out of that one =)

Taft '52!

I'll let him know he has your support!
282  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the top 10 Wealthiest Americans (updated)? on: August 21, 2016, 09:31:45 pm
283  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why is Gary Johnson polling at 7-16% but Stein is at 1-2%? on: August 21, 2016, 05:19:59 pm
The truth of the matter is that the Clinton smear machine is all over Stein. Clinton surrogates repeat these petty gaffes and bring up the Nader misconception instead of focusing on her actual positions (knowing, from the primary, that the lean-left economic stances are rising in popularity). Another major factor is the lack of a genuine party line or any semblance of a media platform for the Green Party. Though, overall, the biggest issue is that most people have no clue who she is, and Stein's weakness as a contendor is partially to blame for this.

Johnson has the most to benefit from the incompetence of Trump. Simple as that.
284  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of the Communist Party USA on: August 21, 2016, 03:22:29 pm
A joke.
285  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: You Can't Shoot An Idea on: August 21, 2016, 01:45:55 pm

Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin

  From an objective standpoint, 1950-52 for the Dewey's administration was a resounding success. The economy was doing splendidly, unemployment had been stabilized, and the only major overseas intervention encountered by the president ended with expedience. On paper, all had been going well and, in such a mindset, the election itself should have been over before it started. The issue was that an unpleasant combination of aforementioned controversies were beginning to catch up with the president.

  Left-historian Howard Zinn illustrated the following in Postwar America: 1945-1971. "The opening act of the 1950s, conducted by the Thomas Dewey Administration, presented a flourishing and rejuvenated America. One of Dewey's shining achievements was his launching of a relentless crusade on alleged Communist espionage (manifested as a means to justify an aggressive, permanent anti-Russian foreign policy). Due in part to an uncooperative conservative minority in the Republican Party, President Dewey struggled to keep clear of controversy in his tenure. Contemporary headlines were consistently flooded with accusations that the president was either too "soft on Communism," as anti-Communist hardliner Senator Joe McCarthy proclaimed, or far too willing to assist in the "over-education of Negro children," as pro-segregation Congressman Hardy of Virginia delicately put it. Such accusations plummeted President Dewey's approval ratings from near-60% in 1950 to a meager 45% by the dawn of 1952."

  The bulk of these accusations came almost precisely after Dennis v. United States. Knowing full well that two of the justices which had ruled in favor of the CPUSA General Secretary were appointed by President Dewey, Senator McCarthy unleashed a full-on assault. Gathering a hoard of press at his beck and call, McCarthy chose to spend the summer and autumn of 1951 hurling attacks at President Dewey for his role in the Supreme Court decision. The Wisconsin senator thereby evolved into what may be considered the mouthpiece of the Conservative Coalition, echoing the sentiments of other congressmen concerned with the direction of the Dewey Administration.

  For a time, the president refused to remark on the raving antics of McCarthy, thereby tactically hoping to, in the words of Brownell, "disarm the rabid extremist through total de-legitimization." Following a month of negative headlines and a handful of death threats, the president opted to speak out against McCarthy. In response to an inquiry from The New York Times' Jack Lewinsky regarding McCarthy's alleged "Pink Court," Dewey rebutted, "Far be it from me to espouse commentary over the words of any respectable United States senator, but I certainly abide by and commend the decision reached by the United States Supreme Court." This sentiment only proved to stoke the flames.

  In the following months, Dewey gathered the political capital he retained from the midterms and worked alongside Majority Leader Ken Wherry to pass legislation updating federal standards of monopolies and raising defense spending. Although these passed both houses of Congress, Senators McCarthy and John C. Stennis (D-MS) led a fierce opposition. A total of eight bills managed to pass from June to October 1951. With each new vote, however, a greater and greater number of GOP congressmen voted in opposition to the president. In October, nearly one-fifth of Republicans voted against the Dewey-endorsed Agriculture Relief Act.

  Then, at this, the low-point of President Dewey's tenure thus far, Senator McCarthy arranged another major press conference. He declared that, due to the recent court decision, political scientists estimated that the U.S. Communist Party would see its first rise in membership in nearly a decade. McCarthy phrased this expected phenomenon as the "dawn of America's final hour." The senator cried out, "We cannot allow ourselves to bend the knee to traitors whom would see our nation burn. This evil must be dealt with at all costs and I shall lead this charge. Therefore, I now announce that I shall seek the office of the presidency."

"Congress shall be instructed to pass a constitutional amendment overturning this Pink Court ruling. On my watch, the practice of Communism shall be considered a crime of the highest caliber."
Senator Joe McCarthy, October 30th 1951.
286  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Michele Bachmann: "I'm advising Trump on foreign policy" on: August 21, 2016, 11:48:59 am
This campaign is literally an SNL skit.
287  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Grant Us A Third Term! on: August 20, 2016, 07:32:57 pm
Looks like a good start! Are the Greenbacks going to be involved in '76?
288  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: You Can't Shoot An Idea on: August 20, 2016, 02:28:28 pm

The Today Show Begins Broadcast on NBC with Host Dave Garroway, January 1952 

Chapter Two: The Election of 1952: Dog Sleds and Write-Ins

  President Thomas Dewey had won the Election of 1948, reputable historians discuss, due primarily to the popular perception of Harry Truman as a lackluster, floundering head of state. Truman lost the election because of his unwillingness to stick with civil rights, others argue. Then there were those who firmly believed that the Democrats had simply been in power for too long and the country needed a shakeup. Almost none proclaimed that it had been Dewey's campaigning which caused Truman's demise.

  According to his memoirs, Dewey, when looking towards the upcoming election as late as December '51, remained unsure whether or not he could win a re-election against a trusted and primed Democratic challenger. "Never once did I take my chance in 1952 for granted," wrote Dewey. "We won by the mere skin of our teeth against a deeply disliked, Missourian farmer. I was sure the Democrats were readying a genuine heavyweight this time around."

  With the issue of internal Communism and new controversies surrounding segregation permeating within the minds of the electorate as faults of the incumbent administration, the Democrats needed unification and it needed it fast to launch their offensive. The president had yet to state his intentions for the election by mid-January, meaning the opposition had an open field to shape the narrative. This was the moment that may have altered the course of the race, but the Democratic Old Guard held back.

  Those effectively running the Democratic Party, city bosses and Tammany Hall-types, privately assured local party leaders that the election would be wrapped up without any need for insurgent candidacies. Especially in the Midwest, a portion of the nation deemed a "tossup region" by the press, the groundwork for a massive campaign was in the works. Distracted by new reveals from the Polecat Commission, the Democratic Party required a shattering jolt to open the doors to 1952.

  Herbert Brownell explained the sequence of events which took place  on January 14th. "I had, quite literally, one foot out the door for a rather significant engagement with a fellow from General Motors when my boss, the wife, called out to look at the television set." The Today Show, a new NBC television news program was revealing itself to the world that day. At 9:25am, the host of the show announced that a surprise interview would be taking place in the following hour with former President Harry Truman.

  "There he was, right there on NBC speaking candidly to that peacock Garroway," Truman walked on the set and was seated adjacent to the program's host. For the following twenty minutes the two discussed a wide variety of contemporary issues, including the Korean War, the role of the federal government, and a fair amount of lighthearted topics such as Truman's opinion on Doris Day. At last, when viewership reportedly reached its peak at the fifteen minute mark, Garroway asked him, "Well, President Truman, have you decided to run for the presidency?"

  Truman laughed for a moment and then responded, "No, Dave, I believe I have had my turn. Although, to tell you the truth, it certainly is vital that we nominate a contender with the right credentials to end the worldwide threat of Communism and protect our respectability here at home." When the host interjected to ask if Truman had any names in mind, the former president gleefully answered, "I will endorse whomever the nominee shall be, but, of all men, Eisenhower would be an extraordinary choice."

"Needless to say, I cancelled on GM in a heartbeat."
Herbert Brownell, from 1965 Interview for Time Magazine
289  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump: I will get 95% of the African-American vote in 2020 on: August 19, 2016, 06:17:38 pm
290  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of US Presidents Series: Bill Clinton through Barack Obama on: August 18, 2016, 08:24:41 pm
All very HP.
291  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump: "I regret my comments which I have caused others personal pains." on: August 18, 2016, 07:14:09 pm
Was hoping to see this exact headline on November 9th.

292  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: So this statue just went up in Seattle... on: August 18, 2016, 05:10:59 pm
One of these was towering over Union Square today too.
293  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: You Can't Shoot An Idea on: August 18, 2016, 07:08:46 am
I love this timeline.  I always wondered what would happen if Republicans choose to be the more friendly party to Civil Rights in general.  This'll be very interesting to watch play out.  Will there be a large conservative backlash to the SCOTUS' decision and Dewey's moderate choices?

Well, we'll see. It's safe to say that the McCarthyites of the world would be inflamed.

Oh, wow. America certainly wasn't ready for the Brandenburg v. Ohio equivalent in '51. This should be interesting, and I'm betting the Democrats will nominate a man more conservative than Adlai Stevenson.

A whole new '52 on the way!
294  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Green Party townhall thread on: August 17, 2016, 09:18:27 pm
Ajamu pretty much knocking every question he gets to answer out of the park.
Jill not doing bad, but was hoping she would break out of the talking points.
295  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What state do you think Clinton is most loved in? on: August 17, 2016, 11:55:00 am
California and Hawaii.
New Yorkers do not like Clinton as much as some of you believe.
296  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: You Can't Shoot An Idea on: August 17, 2016, 10:08:43 am

Francis "Eugene Dennis" Waldron following 1948 Arrest

  Towards the end of the year, the realization had struck that the Democrats were nearly guaranteed a rigorous and fruitless primary season. A collection of names and personalities were gearing up to throw their names into the ring for the Democratic nomination, yet the time had not yet come for announcements. As presidential approval ratings topped 57%, the likelihood that he could be beat appeared quite low. As one reporter commented, the primary may only serve to decide, "the next Alf Landon." As such, far more attention was given to the distinct possibility of a challenge from within the Republican Party.

  Dewey had alienated much of the conservative, Midwestern Republican base, meaning such a contest had not been out of the question. The most consequential issue going for the conservatives, that of an internal "Communist Conspiracy", had been taken at a completely different pace by the president. The introduction of Operation Polecat into the political arena changed a great deal. HUAC was deemed unnecessarily self-destructive for the Republican Party by GOP leadership in March 1950 and subsequently shut down. Those running Polecat now covered these bases, and they did so without television cameras and movie stars. Fifteen covert operations were uncovered by 1951, and these were promptly dealt with. The most famous of which, the case of the Rosenberg couple passing along atomic information to the Soviets, ended in the prompt conviction of the husband, alleged spy Julius Rosenberg. His wife, Ethel, was delivered a verdict of not guilty upon the discrediting of witness David Greenglass.

  The president, along with his supporters and the bulk of the Republican Party, reaffirmed often that Polecat would effectively discredit Communism in its findings. Therefore, Dewey urged Congress to focus on matters not retaining to internal conspiracies and instead work towards passing domestic reforms. The only measure Dewey approved of (and the only one of its kind which managed to pass between 1950 and 1952) was the McCarran Internal Security Act which required the registration of Communist organizations.

  Protests and various marches began to pop up in a show of disfavor with the direction of what came to be known as the second American "Red Scare". Left-wing organizations and labor unions, in response to a series of federal prosecutions against members and leaders of the Communist Party USA under the Smith Act, demanded the First Amendment be recognized. As the list of convictions began to pile up, moderate human rights groups jumped on board, as did members of Wallace's Progressive Party and a handful of liberal Democrats. The major proponent of the cases, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover, urged the president keep silent on the matter. When prompted for an opinion on the matter, Dewey only said, "We cannot outlaw thought, gentlemen."

  At last, the Supreme Court agreed to take up the appeal of General Secretary to the CPUSA, Eugene Dennis, who had been charged with inciting the overthrow of the U.S. government. Those defending the cause for the petitioners asserted that the actions of the party promoted peaceful transition to socialism and this right was covered by the Constitution. The prosecution, already presumed victorious, recounted that the "evil" philosophy of Dennis and others in the same group clearly advocated a violent, repressive Stalinist state in the U.S.

  Four sitting on the bench had made up their minds on this accord far prior to the presented case. Justice Reed, Justice Jackson, Justice Frankfurter and Chief Justice Vinson stood unwavering on the side of the prosecution. Firmly in agreement with the defense were Justice Black and Justice Douglas. A fierce defender of the right to free speech,, Justice Harlan agreed with the defense, as did, in a shock to even the president himself, Justice McComb. Deemed a wildcard of sorts (and, as later reports would discover, an acquaintance of Dewey), Justice Burton stated his concurrence with the defense.

  The wind had dramatically changed direction.

"This shall be known as the greatest victory the Communist Party in America ever received."
Senator McCarthy, June 4th, 1951

"Foley Square Overturned! Justice Harold Burton Delivers Decisive Vote."
The New York Times, June 5th, 1951

"The Constitution Wins the Day. Let Us Celebrate June 5th as the Day Free Speech Defeated Fear"
The Daily Worker, June 5th 1951
297  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Bülent Ecevit's cap v. Süleyman Demirel's fedora on: August 16, 2016, 07:55:10 pm
None of the Above. Have to go with Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's Karakul.

298  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which of these political sites/blogs do you enjoy? on: August 16, 2016, 06:13:48 pm
Visit Jacobin, CounterPunch, DemNow semi-often.
RT, CNN, TYT occasionally. Recently quit 538 and Politico.
and I think Atlas goes without saying.
299  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Do you support the death penalty? If so, in what cases? Why or why not? on: August 16, 2016, 09:14:30 am
"It would be very difficult, if not altogether impossible, to establish any principle upon which the justice or expediency of capital punishment could be founded, in a society glorying in its civilization." Marx in 1853.

It's a barbaric, racist practice. Cannot continue in any circumstance.
300  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: If the only choice was Gary Johnson/Bill Weld versus Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka... on: August 16, 2016, 08:59:23 am
No self-proclaimed "progressive" Democrat should even consider Johnson as a viable option. Even if you have qualms over Stein's inexperience and her running mate, to prefer Johnson over her means you would be voting for eliminating corporate taxes, shutting down the Department of Education (along with federal loans/grants), privatizing social welfare programs, and allowing an unrestrained, unregulated "free market" system to crash the economy. And that's just the tip of the iceburg. The libertarian platform, overall, is so blatantly anti-humanitarian it's unbelievable. But I suppose if you've bought into the wifi/vaccine hysteria, then I guess you're fool enough to pick anyone.
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