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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would you approve if Andrew Cuomo and Kim Jong-un "traded places"? on: Today at 08:54:37 pm
No.  If Kim were Governor of New York, Dennis Rodman would be relevant for the next four years.  Nothing is worth that.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: House Republican leadership blocks police de-militarization bill on: Today at 08:35:41 pm
Obama should issue another executive order.

There's not one he can realistically issue.  The Democrats got upset with Nixon non spending monies that had been budgets and passed a law that basically makes it illegal to not spend money that has been budgeted unless it is impossible to do so.  At most he could issue an order tightening up the standards for distributing arms to local police armies, but there's not anything he can do to stop the process without Congress letting him.

That wasn't meant to be serious...Tongue

I seriously wish he could issue an executive order here.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The New Irony Ore Mine on: Today at 08:19:01 pm
Easily one of our worst posters
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: House Republican leadership blocks police de-militarization bill on: Today at 08:09:12 pm
Obama should issue another executive order.

There's not one he can realistically issue.  The Democrats got upset with Nixon non spending monies that had been budgets and passed a law that basically makes it illegal to not spend money that has been budgeted unless it is impossible to do so.  At most he could issue an order tightening up the standards for distributing arms to local police armies, but there's not anything he can do to stop the process without Congress letting him.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 12-year-old Shot Dead by Police on: Today at 07:53:39 pm
Why does Naso always associate granola bars with liberals? I mean, like everyone likes granola bars. I see white Mississippians (overwhelmingly conservative) eating them at work all the time...

It is this some kind of weird North/South thing, or are granola bars indeed an apolitical food?

Keep in mind that Naso lives in a time warp.  It's pretty much a food everybody'll eat these days, but back in the 60's and early 70's, granola was hippie health food.
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What time does your family eat dinner on Thanksgiving? on: Today at 05:16:46 pm
This Thanksgiving for lunch nonsense is not something I am at all okay with.

The only reason to have it around 1 ish, is there's another opportunity to feast around 6 or 7......ala, Our Dear Friend's family.  Once is plenty, yeah.

The reason to have it 1ish is so that people who had to drive an hour or three to get there can get back home the same day.
7  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Ernest's Reflections on the Revised Common Lectionary - Year B on: Today at 04:19:59 pm
Just when you thought it was safe to post on the Religion & Philosophy board.                                                                         Revised Common Lectionary IIYes, with the start of the new liturgical year coming up, I'm going to try my hand again at commenting on the reading from the Revised Common Lectionary.  I am going to be a bit more relaxed about it, tho.  Trying to do a commentary on one of the readings from each day proved to be too much because too often I found myself having to stretch to say something beyond the obvious.  I plan on doing a thread for each week rather than each day as I thought to do last time.  I still might do more than one thread per week if inspiration strikes.

First Week of Advent: 27 November to 3 December, 2014:
    "Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved."
8  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Restore us, O God of hosts on: Today at 04:18:34 pm
Part 1 of a hoped for weekly series of commentaries on the daily reading for Year B of the Revised Common Lectionary.  The readings for the First Week of Advent are reprinted from Revised Common Lectionary Daily Readings, copyright 2005 Consultation on Common Texts.

Pre-Sunday Psalm: Psalm 80:1-7, 17-19
ThursdayFridaySaturday
OTZechariah 13:1-9Zechariah 14:1-9Micah 2:1-13
NTRevelation 14:6-131 Thessalonians 4:1-18Matthew 24:15-31

First Sunday of Advent
Isaiah 64:1-9
Psalm 80:1-7, 17-19
1 Corinthians 1:3-9
Mark 13:24-37

Post-Sunday Psalm: Psalm 79
MondayTuesdayWednesday
OTMicah 4:1-5Micah 4:6-13Micah 5:1-5a
NTRevelation 15:1-8Revelation 18:1-10Luke 21:34-38

Unlike most weeks where the Psalm passages are supportive of the other readings, this week they are the core of the message for this first week of Advent.  The two psalms are a call for deliverance and other readings are largely from the apocalyptic portions of the Bible that describe how that deliverance will come at the end of days. Yet not all is gloom and doom, for some concern the first coming of Christ that is what is celebrated in this season of Advent.

Micah 5:2-5a (NRSV)
But you, O Bethlehem of Ephrathah,
    who are one of the little clans of Judah,
from you shall come forth for me
    one who is to rule in Israel,
whose origin is from of old,
    from ancient days.
Therefore he shall give them up until the time
    when she who is in labor has brought forth;
then the rest of his kindred shall return
    to the people of Israel.
And he shall stand and feed his flock in the strength of the Lord,
    in the majesty of the name of the Lord his God.
And they shall live secure, for now he shall be great
    to the ends of the earth;
and he shall be the one of peace.

The cry goes forth twice in Psalm 80: "Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved." Yet in a real sense, it is not that his face does not shine upon us, but that we have shut our eyes to the light and then had the audacity to curse the darkness when we stub our toes. The call to fellowship mentioned in 1 Corinthians 1:9 has always been there, even before Jesus came to enunciate it more clearly that it might penetrate the ears we have stopped up.
9  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Opinion of the Quakers on: Today at 04:05:48 pm
One of the few branches of Christianity I have any time for. Very good allies in most of the activism I'm involved in.
Mixed.  I like their ideals, but based on the one service I attended a little over a year ago, it seemed like they paid more attention to their activism than to their relationship with God. Granted, that could just be the local congregation's emphasis.  While social justice is an important aspect of one's relationship with God, it isn't the sole aspect.  I might have been a bit jaundiced by the after service activity being us writing letters petitioning our Congresscritters to not make the cuts to SNAP that were being bandied about just then. I did deviate from the suggested script of the letters we were asked to write by emphasizing that I felt that cutting the bloated farm subsidies in the bill would be a better way to reduce the deficit than cutting SNAP.  However, besides the futility of such letters given who our Congresscritters are, it seems to me religious social activism should be more about doing things that need doing yourself than about nagging government to do them for us.
10  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: The collapse of Mars Hill on: Today at 12:41:12 am
Mars Hill Church was a Pacific Northwest megachurch.  To me, Mars Hill always meant Mars Hill University.  I'm glad to know that the potential for confusion will soon be lessened, but otherwise I don't care because I never did pay much attention to megachurches.
11  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: When Will the Catholic Church Perform Gay Marriages? on: Today at 12:24:40 am
Yeah, I just don't see it happening.  The greatest degree of concession I can see the Catholic Church making would be the possibility of having a non-marriage ceremony of commitment or the like, much as it practically has turned annulment into divorce in all but name.  But having anything other than a union of one man and one woman partake of the sacrament of matrimony is something that just isn't going to happen in the Catholic Church.
12  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: SURVIVOR: State Capital buildings of the United States on: Today at 12:01:09 am
3 New Mexico
2 North Carolina
1 Delaware
0 Tennessee
0 Virginia
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XIX: Melancholy and the Infinite Napping on: November 23, 2014, 09:42:20 pm

Yes. Certain relatives of mine did this for years. I think they're disgusting. Stove top stuffing and not in-bird? An insult to both America and Jesus.

We always ran out of in-bird stuffing, but even then we never resorted to Stove Top but had a couple of bread pans with additional stuffing made.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Statistics less astounding than Bushie bowling a 9 on: November 23, 2014, 09:37:28 pm
Oklahoma is the only state that produces iodine.
Altho South Carolina used to brand itself the Iodine State because our soil caused our vegetables to be naturally iodized which was a selling point before iodine was routinely added to salt.  It's a bit of trivia that still has relevance only because of WIS. The call letters of that Columbia station, which was the last to receive a three letter call sign, were chosen to represent Wonderful Iodine State.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How far is the next oil or gas pipeline away from you ? on: November 23, 2014, 09:15:28 pm
I live only a couple miles away from a distribution point on a gasoline pipeline, so yeah.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: are you good with your hands? on: November 23, 2014, 09:09:45 pm
Moderately so.  I've managed to assemble Sauder furniture without any catastrophes.  My usual contribution to the July potluck dinner (my church has one the first Sunday of each month after the service) is a sheet cake decorated to look like a 13 star flag.  There are other handcrafts I could tackle if I had the inclination, but I'm certainly not an adept at them.
17  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: SURVIVOR: State Capital buildings of the United States on: November 22, 2014, 11:29:37 pm
3 New Mexico
2 North Carolina
1 Delaware
0 Tennessee
0 Virginia
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you like cranberries? on: November 22, 2014, 10:53:00 pm
I don't hate them, but I always find something better to put on my plate on Turkey Day.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Joe Republic Bureau of Funny Post Archival on: November 22, 2014, 10:50:04 pm
How many of you have ever had 2 bowls of cereal in one sitting? I can't say I ever have.

That's normal for me, especially if the bowl is small.  Occasionally, I'll pour a third bowl if I'm really hungry.  I remember as an elementary-school kid I downed 8 bowls of cereal in one sitting.  That's my record and something I cannot do anymore due to my lactose semi-intolerance.

And Mama Bushie probably gleefully poured you more Count Chocula and dismissed any criticism with, "He's a growin' boy!"
I had a mixture of Boo Berry and Franken Berry for breakfast this morning.  (Finished off the Boo Berry box and opened a Franken Berry for the next box because my girlfriend wanted some Franken Berry when given a choice of all three.)
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Snow driving... on: November 22, 2014, 10:44:25 pm
Waterloo, Ontario, not the (somewhat smaller) Waterloo, Iowa.
WATFOR did you have to clear that up?
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What time does your family eat dinner on Thanksgiving? on: November 22, 2014, 05:05:40 pm
Usually about 2pm. And this is the norm for nearly all of my friends and neighbors, which makes me wonder if there is a regional variation to when Thanksgiving dinner is consumed.

(The fact that it's called "dinner" to begin with always seemed weird to me for this reason since I've never observed it being eaten in the evening anywhere other than in Thanksgiving TV sitcom specials.)

For me "dinner" is the big meal of the day, whether it is served at lunch time or supper time.

Our family typically aims for 1pm with the understanding that a turkey that takes longer or shorter than expected to cook will alter the start time.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Is "the American people" a dog whistle term to refer to white conservatives? on: November 22, 2014, 06:47:34 am
Possibly a dog whistle for "conservatives", but I think most conservatives are too colorblind, in the sense they are blind to differences in opportunity based upon color, for them to be adding "white" in there.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to announce executive order on immigration on: November 22, 2014, 06:41:59 am
The fact he didn't wait for the new Congress to be sworn in, which I think would have passed a new immigration bill, is obviously a political stunt and people thinking it is anything else is delusional.
What is truly delusional is thinking that the incoming Congress would have passed a bill if Obama had merely waited.  They may do so now, but only if it rolls back at least in part what Obama has done with his executive order.
24  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: SURVIVOR: State Capital buildings of the United States on: November 22, 2014, 06:34:43 am
3 New Mexico
2 North Carolina
1 Delaware
0 Tennessee
0 Virginia

The above is my synthesis of these prior votes of mine:
Round 6
2 New York
1 Delaware
Round 7
1 North Carolina
1 Tennessee
1 Virginia
Round 9
2 Oregon
1 New Mexico
25  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The Big Bad Swedish Politics & News Thread on: November 22, 2014, 01:10:33 am
Have you caught the Russian sub yet?

Doesn't look like it and my guess is we probably won't catch it either. Sweden's submarine hunting capabilites have been greatly reduced in the past two decades due to the cuts in military spending under both leftwing and rightwing governments, we don't even have any helicopters capable of submarine hunting and won't have until 2018. And even back in the 80s when the Swedish military was in top shape they pretty much always got away so the track record isn't good with this type of thing...

I came across this photo enhancement that shows that the Swedes were right about Russians in their waters:
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