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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Ebola Thread (US Domestic) on: Today at 12:04:30 am
Yet another overreaction, this time here in South Carolina.

The Greenville County School District will begin screening new students for Ebola before they will be allowed to enroll.


Parents will be asked a series of questions to find out whether the student or family have been in a location affected by the deadly virus.

Any student identified as being at risk through this screening would have to be cleared medically before being enrolled, the district stated.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The t_host1 Institute of Comedy on: October 20, 2014, 10:15:33 pm
Bushie is going to go into winter hibernation soon.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: how much is your cable package a month? on: October 20, 2014, 09:57:38 pm
$0, i dont have the cable tv.

Last time I had cable was back in 1999 when basic cable was included in the rent.  (The way the apartment tower was wired, they had no choice, as they had connected up the basic cable to what had formerly been the wires connected to the antennas at the top of the building as running individual runs for cable was out of the question.)  I'd picked the place more because of the location than the "free" cable.
4  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: China General Discussion on: October 20, 2014, 05:44:06 pm
Well, you can't blame Soviet-era engines for the problem.  Possibly Soviet-era engineering, but not Soviet engines.  The Chinese bought her as a hulk without any engines aboard and finally installed engines in 2009.
5  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Giant Butt Plug in Center of Paris Deflated by Prudish Vandals on: October 20, 2014, 05:30:06 pm
I would think the only people who would recognize the thing as a butt plug without being informed of the resemblance would those who use them.  Regardless, it's butt ugly and I question the judgement of whoever is paying for the damn fool thing.
6  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Is Homosexuality a sin? on: October 19, 2014, 07:36:15 pm
2nd point, Anal sex and oral sex -if they are wrong in any way- are equally 'wrong'
if done heterosexually. I'm not saying that they are wrong, but only what's the difference
between homo vs hetero?

First off, there are multiple passages in Song of Songs that are descriptive of oral sex, and otherwise the Bible is essentially silent on the topic, so I don't think any serious Bible scholar could argue that oral sex per se is bad.

Now to play devil's advocate on the anal sex part of your point, let me point out that while the Bible can be interpreted as having the viewpoint that the purpose of sex is procreation, it doesn't state that every single act of sex may only be undertaken for that purpose alone.  As the Song of Songs makes quite clear, the Bible acknowledges that sex is a way of strengthening personal bonds, so it isn't deed but the intent. Hence if one were to hold the view that homosexual love be a sin, it is not because of the physical act itself but because one has taken the intimacy intended to be shared with someone of the opposite sex as a means of strengthening the bonds of procreative matrimony and used it for illicit purposes.  In that viewpoint, adultery and fornication are just as bad as homosexual relations, but consensual anal sex within a heterosexual marriage would not be considered a sin.
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the Previous Poster's Signature: The Wrath of Khan on: October 18, 2014, 10:20:07 am
Ban Grumps.
8  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: US AG put a stop to investigation that could have lead to recovery of dead IDF on: October 18, 2014, 10:15:47 am
Still, what's really astounding once one gets beyond the outrage is that there wasn't already an MLAT in place between the US and Israel.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Am I really such a bad person? on: October 18, 2014, 10:05:52 am
Yes you are.  But we all are bad people.  We are all sinners who need the redeeming power of God.  So once you accept that, get down on your knees and pray:

O God, I know I am a sinner in need of thy help.
Therefore, I humbly ask that I be touched by thy grace.
Allow my unworthy self to find comfort in thy noodly embrace.
Wash away my many sins with thy marinara sauce.
Deliver me from temptation and lead me not into Olive Garden.
For thine is the power and the glory, Amen.

Even tho I am not a devotee of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I say the preceding because as a Christian Universalist, I believe that while there is but one road to salvation, there are several guides and apparently you could use some additional options beyond the usual ones.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Did you like going through a car wash as a kid? on: October 18, 2014, 09:50:30 am
No, because I never did it.  We were always a wash the car in the driveway family growing up.
11  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: US AG put a stop to investigation that could have lead to recovery of dead IDF on: October 18, 2014, 06:36:23 am
As for trying to self-source its defensive gear, that doesn't make a lot of sense for Israel.  If they want to keep the US subsidizing its military, they have to let the US get some jobs out of it.  It's doubtful that Israel's economy could sustain the full cost of its military if they were to no longer get US assistance.
It matters greatly if they run out of certain things again and the sitting President again denies them access to more.  Yeah, it may well be hard on the economy of the country, but it's better than the possible alternative.
If Israel were fighting a defensive war rather than an offensive war it chose to start (yeah, Hamas was stupid to react the way they did to Israel's overreaction to the kidnapping of those three young invincible idiots, but they were predictably stupid, just as Israel is predictably stupid concerning the recovery of its lost soldiers, dead or alive) I don't see any US president this century as failing to turn on the material pipeline.
12  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: What is the greatest threat to the world? on: October 17, 2014, 03:04:28 pm
Option 5, but only because I'm counting Update as a type of pollution.  Otherwise, NOTA.
13  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: US AG put a stop to investigation that could have lead to recovery of dead IDF on: October 17, 2014, 03:02:53 pm
It's rather surprising that we don't already have an MLAT in place with Israel.  Since the circumstances indicated Oron was already dead, I can see why our government felt no particular urgency to do things outside official channels.

As for trying to self-source its defensive gear, that doesn't make a lot of sense for Israel.  If they want to keep the US subsidizing its military, they have to let the US get some jobs out of it.  It's doubtful that Israel's economy could sustain the full cost of its military if they were to no longer get US assistance.
14  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: How the Town of Spadra Disappeared. on: October 16, 2014, 02:42:16 pm

How the Town of Spadra Disappeared.

I live in Walnut, California, which is in the eastern part of Los Angeles County in the San Gabriel Valley. Looking at historical maps of my area, I continued to see a town named “Spadra,” which was unfamiliar to me.

Does Spadra rhyme with Phaedra, as in "Spadra was its name"

We just pronounce it like the word "spa." So "spad-ra."

"Spa" /spɑ/ and "spad" /spæd/ don't have the same vowel sound. I am a little surprised at the syllabification.  I'd have thought /spɑ drə/ and not /spɑd rə/.
15  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Is It Unfair that Caucasians Are So Diverse? on: October 16, 2014, 02:31:40 pm
This thread won't end well.

It can only go up from where it began.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the Previous Poster's Signature: The Wrath of Khan on: October 16, 2014, 02:29:06 pm
No wonder you think capitalism is an Alien philosophy.  But when you think about it, it is much more a Predator philosophy,
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / MOVED: Lockheed says it's close to nuclear fusion on: October 16, 2014, 11:06:38 am
This science and technology topic has been moved to Off-topic Board.

18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Oxford School of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts IV on: October 16, 2014, 10:59:31 am
Hmmmm, I might evolve in the future about this future.

Considering this forum is full of people who seem to constantly get high, could you explain why you're supporting drugs decriminalization???

I'm not one who gets high on even an irregular basis.  But beyond the awful side effects on our own society caused by criminalization of a social ill that has already been mentioned, there is the fact that terrorists and/or revolutionaries in most places get a considerable chunk of their funding from illicit drugs, and even where it isn't an inherently political motive, there are quite a few places where narco-traffickers cause a considerable destabilization of shaky governments in less developed countries.

However, because I do recognize that those drugs that have been made illicit do carry considerable potential for harm, I'm not in favor of scrapping all drug bans, just those on marihuana, opioids, cocaine, and other drugs that have a horticultural source.  It would be easier to deal with meth if it weren't lumped in with all the other drugs, plus if cocaine were legal, I'd think there would be less demand for meth.

I love the implication that "horticultural" drugs are somehow less unhealthy than synthetic ones, and that coke is less unhealthy than meth (or for that matter that methheads would prefer coke to meth).
My reason for legalizing horticultural drugs has nothing to do with any health benefits but because it's never going to be possible to have the level of strict control that is possible with synthetic drugs.  The war on drugs has been reasonably effective in controlling access to drugs such as LSD and quaaludes because it was possible to limit access to the precursor chemicals used to make them.  We could even cut off meth if we were willing to put up with having stuffy noses.  While I didn't state that reason in that particular post, I have mentioned it several times in the past on this forum.

As for existing methheads being satisfied with cocaine, probably not.  However, with a legal strong stimulant such as cocaine available, there would be fewer people who would try meth in the first place.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What is your earliest memory? on: October 16, 2014, 10:48:39 am
My family moved when I was not quite 5 up north to the chilly clime of South Carolina from Florida.  I have several memories from Florida, which I can't place in chronological order, but the one most relevant to this forum is when I accompanied my mother into a voting booth for some election. (Probably the 1970 midterm, but whether it was the primary or the general election I have no idea.)
20  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Badger vs Keystone Phil on: October 16, 2014, 10:42:04 am
B is for Bendetta.
21  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Is Homosexuality a sin? on: October 16, 2014, 09:52:03 am
I'll concede that some people use "sin" to refer exclusively to actions deemed wrong by a deity, but I've always used it in a more generic sense, and I think my quote made clear I was using it in that sense, albeit with a bit of mild humor concerning the contrast with the theocentric sense, humor that apparently got lost and by now has been totally obliterated.

There's really two ways to think of those quips

1) Doing something one knows is wrong
2) Sticking a thumb in the eye of the socons

I think everyone was doing the latter, which is a bit immature, but not nearly as bad as the former option.


Meaning they're immature like that in-law of yours who insists on bringing up certain subjects to get a rise out of you.

But if your in-laws want to get a rise out of you because you keep telling them that their very lives are inherently sinful, maybe it's past time to re-evaluate whose actions are more offensive here.

Yeah.  There's a difference here.  People can stop being homophobic or change what you think your God thinks about homosexuality, but gays and lesbians can't become heterosexual.  Or, just keep it to yourself.Honestly, you should get crap about saying hateful things about gay people or saying homosexuality is a "sin."   

And, bringing up these societal "rules" that supposedly have the imprimatur of the Christian God is dumb anyway.  Society changes so it's just going to drive people away from religion and bring up the idea that God is a fictional concept.  It's like with Mormons, it looks kind of bad that God suddenly allowed black people into heaven in the late 1970s.  If you back the wrong horse on a political "social issue," you're going to piss people off and eventually discredit your religion when you tell everyone that homosexuality is perfectly fine in 50 years or whenever that happens.

OTOH, if it be a sin in the eyes of God, a lot of people are going to have some explaining to do, and the same goes for lot of activities that a strict literal reading of the Bible would indicate are sins yet are considered acceptable in today's society.  The major difference between homosexuality and those other activities is that only a small minority of people want to engage in it.
22  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The Ebola Thread on: October 16, 2014, 07:29:54 am
Now this is a joke:

UKIP leader Nigel Farage has warned that ‘foreign’ virus Ebola threatens the jobs of many domestic viruses currently struggling to infect people in the UK.

With cases now appearing in mainland Europe, UKIP have warned that our porous borders and close ties with Europe mean that many of our indigenous infections could be under serious threat.


“You can rest assured that under a UKIP government there would no place for exotic viruses such as Ebola, and we would work day and night to make sure everyone had access to good old British flu.”
23  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Christianity on: October 16, 2014, 07:14:33 am
Arguably more so because Judaism never advocated vegetarianism when that, of course, is one of the most radical commitments in terms of shaping a person's lifestyle that a religion could come up with (and a big reason why the Manichean faith isn't around today).
That's not quite true. While vegetarianism was never made a tenet of the faith (not surprising for a faith which had its origins among nomadic herdsmen) it is clear that a vegetarian diet was thought highly of.  It is after all, the original diet in Eden and the prophet Daniel asked for and thrived on a vegetarian diet in Daniel 1.  While Daniel did not remain a vegetarian, it was while on a fast that excluded rich foods such as meat that he had the vision of the kings of north and south in Daniel 10-12.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Should Badger and Keystone Phil have their own TV show? on: October 15, 2014, 03:19:42 pm
My God, the possibilities......

This fall on HBO, Game of Forums!
25  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Is Homosexuality a sin? on: October 15, 2014, 03:17:01 pm
I didn't see the mild humor in this bit:

To think something is a sin and to love doing it is truly depraved.

The humor depends entirely upon the contrast between a theocentric definition and a anthropocentric definition of sin.
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