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1  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: The Diocese of South Carolina Officially Decides to Join ACNA on: Today at 04:45:14 am
Theism, the resurrection etc are integral parts of Christianity,
That's certainly the case for Pauline Christianity - which almost every version of Christianity has been.  However, if you tend to see Jesus mainly as a reformer and philosopher, it wouldn't be unreasonable to call oneself a Christian and yet not be a theist or believe in the resurrection.  The ethical teachings of Christ are valid and attractive regardless of the position one holds concerning Jesus' divinity.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Prison guards torture schizophrenic man to death, get off scot-free on: March 21, 2017, 06:14:21 pm
as should the word of a convicted criminal
I'm surprised you don't scald yourself with all those hot takes
180 degrees no less. Seriously, why on earth should water that hot be available to begin with? Even if it weren't a danger, it is wasteful.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trumpcare eliminates mental health coverage from Medicaid on: March 21, 2017, 06:09:07 pm
What's really idiotic is that doing this is likely to end up costing the government as a whole more money. Of course, those added costs will end up being paid mainly by State and local governments, so it might save the Federal government a little money.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Reuters: Tillerson to skip April NATO meeting on: March 21, 2017, 06:05:05 am
Why should our NATO allies be thinking this a snub? They ought to relieved that we'll have a responsible adult there when Trump has his playdate with Xi.
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Gateway of the Dave on: March 20, 2017, 07:52:52 pm
RIP Grumps, died for a good cause. Cry

(although, while he was at it, he could have asked Dave who deleted the French election thread)

Unfortunately, my colleagues were more concerned with asking Dave to take away Mr. Morden's moderator powers than asking about this Sad

You do realize that Dave is a myth, don't you?
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone V: Born Under A Bad Sign on: March 20, 2017, 07:48:41 pm
The chair of the CJ department just told me that he thought I was a far-leftist. What have I done!?
Believe in facts? Grin
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: David Rockefeller dead at 101 on: March 20, 2017, 04:18:10 pm
So, he was alive during World War I?

Yup. It's just interesting that he reached this age while his brother Nelson died way too soon at the age of 70.

But Nelson had a beautiful death.

Truly, truly.

I doubt Megan thought so.
8  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: March 19, 2017, 10:24:29 pm
Ok, here's the thing. This one moron making stupid racist arguments doesn't hurt me. He's a insane guy on the street who I can just put on ignore and not interact with. He's not physically or mentally harming me because I don't interact with him.

But taking away freedom of speech hurts everyone. A forum is a place to discuss information, in this case politics. We naturally have this freedom until the mods step in and overreach. I'm not trying to defend what he has said. But his right to say it, and the right of people to make their views known on this site will always be defended by the posters on this site.

The thing is, tolerating hateful speech, especially strongly hateful speech, chills speech by those who want nothing to do with such hateful speech.  One can reasonably argue whether the posts of those two posters was sufficiently malevolent to warrant a ban, but I don't think anyone can reasonably argue against the general principle that led to their ban.
9  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Favorite "country" of the British Isles on: March 19, 2017, 08:17:29 am
write-in: Sodor
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Clinton: 'I'm ready to come out of the woods' on: March 19, 2017, 12:33:50 am
Clinton for NY Mayor & then for the Presidency in 2020. The great rematch - Hillary vs Trump Part 2 !
You must want Trump to have a chance at a second term.

It doesn't matter how effed up Trump is these four years, she still doesn't have a chance.
11  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Jesus' Teachings: which do you think fit you / you're doing "well enough" at? on: March 18, 2017, 03:21:50 pm
Unless you're referring to a different verse, you've got an error in your list. It should be “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and spread the news of the kingdom of God.” not "bury the dead".
I referred to this list, to make sure I wasn't forgetting any (and I did originally forget the water and the burying parts).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_of_mercy#Corporal_Works_of_Mercy
Tobit, which is where that comes from, is part of the Old Testament Apocrypha, not the gospels.
12  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Jesus' Teachings: which do you think fit you / you're doing "well enough" at? on: March 18, 2017, 06:34:59 am
Unless you're referring to a different verse, you've got an error in your list. It should be “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and spread the news of the kingdom of God.” not "bury the dead".
13  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: The Diocese of South Carolina Officially Decides to Join ACNA on: March 17, 2017, 11:11:15 pm
I wonder if there will be any realignment between churches in the Diocese of the Carolinas and the Diocese of South Carolina.  A few of them are former members and now that the DSC is no longer part of TEC, it might choose to resume be a diocese for the whole state instead of just the low country (The upstate has been part of the Diocese of Upper South Carolina since 1922.)
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Health insurance for the asset rich? on: March 16, 2017, 10:52:07 pm
Because of the way the PPHCA was structured, with its mandate enforced by a tax and its subsidies as a refundable tax credit that could be paid in advance, it would be impossible to have had it consider assets in determining the tax.  While a tax on capital gains is a tax on income and thus is easy to implement thanks to the 16th amendment, a tax which took into account a person's unsold assets would be a direct tax and thus have to be apportioned among the States in accordance with their Representation in the House.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump's new budget will cut meals on wheels on: March 16, 2017, 10:39:52 pm
Why don't people pull themselves up by the bootstraps instead of sitting around waiting for delivery?
You actually have to have bootstraps to have any chance to do that.
16  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: I'm a master's student in theology. AMA. on: March 16, 2017, 10:37:04 pm
Box pews were quite the rage once upon a time, and they were quite literally owned.  You also find then in some old Charleston churches.  I'm surprised you never encountered them at all in Maryland.  That said, Methodist churches aren't usually old enough to date back to the box pew era unless they were a church of another denomination that either converted en mass or was sold to the Methodists.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump adm. cuts....community poverty funds, Appalachian economy grants, etc etc on: March 16, 2017, 08:40:55 pm
To be fair, the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars only gets about 1/3 of its funding from the government.  Also, I'm a huge fan of cutting anything with his name on it.
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone V: Born Under A Bad Sign on: March 16, 2017, 08:32:18 pm
Heh, being a mod is one giant temptation. Every time you see a stupid post, you just want to click a "delete" button, but alas...

Which is precisely why I stepped down from moderating USGD.  Even tho I believe I always used the power responsibly, it took too much of my time.  Now I can even ignore most of the threads there instead of feeling like I ought to read them all.
19  General Discussion / History / Re: Congratulations, Russia. on: March 16, 2017, 08:10:31 pm
Congratulations?  Everything since then has been worse.

Agreed. There were even glimmers of democracy in the waning days of Imperial Russia. Russia would most likely look like one of the generic parliamentary monarchies of Europe today if the Revolution had never happened. We might have even been spared WWII (or at least the European theater) and the Nazis since fear of communism would not have been high enough to propel fascists to power without the existence of an actual communist state.

It wasn't what propelled Mussolini to power, but local socialists who would have been active no matter what in postwar Italy. For better or worse, it took a second world war to curb the attraction (at least in Europe) of violent leftist and rightist groups that enabled them to successfully take power from a democratic regime.
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: McDonald's tweets to Trump: 'You are actually a disgusting excuse of a President on: March 16, 2017, 11:39:14 am
I find it so ironic that liberals preach "tolerance", yet they're the least tolerate people of all.


I didnt realize Ronald McDonald was a flaming liberal
He is a red(head). Still, a clown calling someone out for small hands (or feet) doesn't mean much.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Federal Judge HALTS new travel ban nationwide on: March 16, 2017, 07:08:49 am
We'll have to await the conclusion of the review process before we can celebrate anything, but things are certainly looking good. Whether or not this truly amounts to a "Muslim ban" is debatable, but Trump didn't help his case by campaigning on the promise of a Muslim ban. Now any proposal to limit travel or migration from a Muslim majority nation will be immediately viewed as a ban on persons of the Islamic faith, which is exactly the perception the courts and American public should maintain.

Absolutely not , unless it has religious exemptions the order is not a religious ban and it should not be overturned.

So, by that thinking, we should never have struck down literacy tests for voting?  After all, they weren't explicitly racially discriminatory.  Just look at the written words and never mind the effect, right?

That said, this is weak sauce. I expect that by the time it makes it to the Supreme Court, they'll be back to a full court and the EO will mostly be allowed to go forward.  The temporary 90-day ban will be moot as by then the review in policy that it's supposed to give time for should have been long done by the time this get to SCOTUS.

except the 14th 15th and 19th amendments clearly said you coudnt ban citizens from voting for those reasons.
Where in those amendments does it bar literacy tests? You can't logically argue in favor of considering the discriminatory effect of laws and regulations despite them not being in their literal text in some situations while simultaneously holding it doesn't matter in others. The whole history of this EO shows a discriminatory intent that makes it more difficult to be sustained. Granted, this EO would have an easier time in the courts were it not for the explicitly discriminatory language in the first EO. However, you can't unbite an apple.
22  General Discussion / History / Re: Why didn't the Great Migration begin 50 years earlier? on: March 16, 2017, 06:55:22 am
You had ties of kith and kin to keep you home and no prospect of doing better economically if you did engage in the arduous task of moving. It wasn't until World War I that economic opportunities became starkly better for those moving north. Even that would likely have been a short term phenomenon were it not for the cut off of external immigration.
23  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: Who is the designated Survivor on Inauguration day? on: March 16, 2017, 06:33:35 am
Orrin Hatch and Jeh Johnson.
David Shulkin for SOTU.

Heh, I think PPT was picked as an additional survivor a couple of times, which pretty much renders official "designated survivor" just a backup-backup guy.
Under the current method of selecting the PPT, he's always going to be an old frat who might have a good reason to avoid a lengthy ceremony he has no official capacity in. However while he wasn't outside on the platform, was Hatch far enough away to be a survivor if the unthinkable happened?
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Republicans essentially giving up on passing TrumpCare in the Senate? on: March 15, 2017, 09:05:11 pm
The bill should have been drawn up by negotiations between Paul, Cruz, Cassidy, and Collins. Not the anti-Republican ghoul Paul Ryan.

Problem is Republicans can never agree upon anything.

They seem to be uniting in opposition to RyanCare.
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Dave Brat (Freedom Caucus - VA) will vote against RyanCare in committee on: March 15, 2017, 09:03:27 pm
I fixed the title, at least for my reply.  This tar baby is far more Ryan's baby than Trump's.
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