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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Al Realpolitik Institute of Sulfur Mining & Extraction on: Today at 03:56:52 pm
That has got to be the most beautiful ownage I've ever seen.

I haven't been following Colorado, but PE best hope that this isn't the year for a broken clock to be right because of the time of day.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gay teen attacked by family (VIDEO) on: Today at 03:51:04 pm
Anyway, there are a few success stories regarding conversion to heterosexuality, but they are few and far between. That's the point I'm trying to make. And no one on Atlas (and many people in general) is willing to acknowledge them. But since they don't work the majority of the time, even if it does work on a select few, it's not really worth doing.

Besides, the few success stories are probably from people who are different from the average gay.

Given that there have been quite a few people who have claimed to have therapy work for them only to later recant those claims, it's quite appropriate that such claims would meet with extreme skepticism.
3  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would you support the following corporate tax reform? on: Today at 03:27:04 pm
I'd rather we get rid of the capital gains tax (the more I understand it, the less sense it makes) and have a corporate tax that's lower than it is, and only on the biggest companies, but with very little to no deductions/credits. While also raising the personal income tax for those with higher income, and getting rid of the highly-regressive payroll tax, with the new personal income tax rates something like: $0-50k/year=0%, $50-150k/year=1%, $150-250k/year=5%, $250-400k/year=40%, $400k+/year=67%.
You realize that under those rates, someone making $450k/yr. would end up with less than someone making $150k/yr?

I presume those are marginal rates of taxation so that someone earning $150K would have a post-tax income of $149K and someone earning $450K would have a post tax income of $350˛/₃K.
4  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which of Jupiter's moons is your favorite? on: Today at 03:17:04 pm
I voted Europa tho a reasonable case could be made for any of the Galilean moons.  Io because of its vulcanism, Ganymede because of its size and Callisto because of its aloofness from the other three Galileans.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gay teen attacked by family (VIDEO) on: Today at 10:13:19 am
People should visit these back asswords bigots and give them a good talking to, enough to no longer disown their son.

Also, more proof that 99% of the time conversion therapy doesn't work.

I think your percentage is low altho I doubt that most who advocate such nonsense would consider this to be "therapy".
6  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What kind of phone do you have? on: September 01, 2014, 10:30:50 pm
I still have a rotary dial phone plugged into the wall.  (Plus several other phones and and a DSL modem and that does count my dumb flip phone.)  I don't actually dial out on it, but it is the most reliable phone I own because of that good old-fashioned Western Electric overengineering that was done because it was cheaper for Ma Bell to have phones that didn't break than it was to send people out to fix them because they owned the equipment.
7  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: US States Flags Survivor on: September 01, 2014, 10:24:18 pm
3 Colorado
2 Virginia
1 Utah

Save - Maryland
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How do you pronounce "Nevada"? on: September 01, 2014, 10:18:07 pm
Rhinocerous

Incidentally, I had a banana-topped waffle at iHop this past weekend.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gay teen attacked by family (VIDEO) on: September 01, 2014, 10:10:54 pm
What are you two arguing about?  I can't make heads or tails of what Ernest is saying here.  Being gay isn't a choice.  Being effeminate or flaming isn't a choice.  That woman in the video is a inhuman monster.  End of story. 

I'm not certain what we're arguing about either, since all three of us are in general agreement apparently.  About the only thing I'd disagree with you is over that woman being an inhuman monster.  Unfortunately, she is an all too human monster.  Inhumane, but not inhuman.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: opinion of those who feel compelled to ask the opinion of other fora in this one on: September 01, 2014, 08:01:06 pm
I wanted to vote for all five choices.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gay teen attacked by family (VIDEO) on: September 01, 2014, 07:54:45 pm
"I have known you were gay since you were a little boy"
<2 seconds later>
"And you made a choice..."

What a reasonable and intelligent woman. Is this why Texas doesn't want to teach critical thinking?

The two statements are not logically incompatible.  Young people can make choices, indeed that is why some Christian sects, including those who comprise most people who call themselves Christian call for infant baptism.  SO while there is much wrongness there, it isn't a wrongness in logic.  Logical correctness and ethical correctness are independent of each other.

Yes they are. Most little boys don't even know what "gay" means aside from as a generic insult. And of those that do, it's kind of hard to "choose" being sexually attracted to men when you don't even have a sex drive yet.

In my personal experience, attraction between people generally involves more than which physical aspects of sex one wishes to engage in. So I see no reason why children couldn't begin to identify as being attracted to a particular gender before their sex drive is activated by puberty because that attraction need not have a sexual component to it.
ho·mo·sex·u·al
adjective \ˌhō-mə-ˈsek-sh(ə-)wəl, -ˈsek-shəl\

: sexually attracted to people of the same sex

: based on or showing a sexual attraction to people of the same sex

What's your point other than showing you have access to a dictionary?  As a society we do tend to obsess upon the sexual component of gender preference to the point that most act as if it were the only part that mattered.  Granted, it matters very much once we hit puberty, but the scientific research indicates that whether we are hetero- or homo-sexual has been determined before puberty wreaks its effects upon us.

My point is obvious. A child without a sex drive can't choose to be sexually attracted to men, and therefore a child can't choose to be gay. Of course, even an adolescent/adult with a sex drive can't change their preference, but that's beside the point. To act as if a child can make the conscious choice to select their sexual orientation when they hardly know anything about sex is idiotic.
I see you've totally missed my point.  (You also may be assuming that I think the hetero/bi/homo distinction is a choice, which I don't.)  Let me try restating my point in other terms. While for obvious reasons as a society we focus upon the sexual aspects of orientation, the fact that it forms before the sex drive does indicates it would probably be more apt to call it gender orientation.  Therefore for those who think gender orientation is a choice, there is no logical inconsistency involved in them thinking such a choice may be made while one is still a prepubescent child.  That they are mistaken in thinking it is a choice is a factual error, not a logical error.

(Yes, I'm aware that gender orientation is usually used as a synonym of gender identity.  As a language, English still hasn't fully come to terms with terminology relating to gay LGB LGBT LGBTQ topics and probably won't for some time to come.)
12  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would you support the following corporate tax reform? on: September 01, 2014, 07:38:23 pm
No, largely because I favor eliminating the capital gains tax entirely, tho with safeguards to ensure such an elimination isn't used for tax avoidance on other income disguised as capital gains.
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Making what is "bad" not bad? on: September 01, 2014, 07:18:36 pm
What in God's name do you have against hoodies? They're qute utilitarian, something every American should appreciate. Shaming people for wearing them because someone happened to get shot while in them is downright absurd, and I recommend getting a quick checkup at the nearest mental institution.

FTR, I wear a hoodie all the time when there is a bit of chill in the air.



There you have it... Torie is part of the problem Tongue

I think that has more to do with his choice of smoking material than his choice of clothing material.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gay teen attacked by family (VIDEO) on: September 01, 2014, 07:17:02 pm
"I have known you were gay since you were a little boy"
<2 seconds later>
"And you made a choice..."

What a reasonable and intelligent woman. Is this why Texas doesn't want to teach critical thinking?

The two statements are not logically incompatible.  Young people can make choices, indeed that is why some Christian sects, including those who comprise most people who call themselves Christian call for infant baptism.  SO while there is much wrongness there, it isn't a wrongness in logic.  Logical correctness and ethical correctness are independent of each other.

Yes they are. Most little boys don't even know what "gay" means aside from as a generic insult. And of those that do, it's kind of hard to "choose" being sexually attracted to men when you don't even have a sex drive yet.

In my personal experience, attraction between people generally involves more than which physical aspects of sex one wishes to engage in. So I see no reason why children couldn't begin to identify as being attracted to a particular gender before their sex drive is activated by puberty because that attraction need not have a sexual component to it.
ho·mo·sex·u·al
adjective \ˌhō-mə-ˈsek-sh(ə-)wəl, -ˈsek-shəl\

: sexually attracted to people of the same sex

: based on or showing a sexual attraction to people of the same sex

What's your point other than showing you have access to a dictionary?  As a society we do tend to obsess upon the sexual component of gender preference to the point that most act as if it were the only part that mattered.  Granted, it matters very much once we hit puberty, but the scientific research indicates that whether we are hetero- or homo-sexual has been determined before puberty wreaks its effects upon us.
15  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Civil War in Syria on: September 01, 2014, 06:39:37 pm
We need to call a truce with Assad and focus on ISIS for the time being. If we could work with the Soviet Union to defeat fascism in Europe, we can work with Assad's Syria to defeat Islamism in the Middle East.

Assad is a threat to the Syrian people. ISIS is a threat to all people. We have to pick the least worst option.

For decades we've tried working with dictators to defeat Islamism.  It hasn't worked very well, just as it didn't work all that well in containing the previous menace, Communism.  However since we haven't been attacking Assad with anything other than words, I fail to see the need to call a truce.  What we need is to step up our support for the Kurds, FSA, and perhaps the Jordanians.  While Israel won't like it, nor do I think it is in the offing anytime soon, I think the Sykes-Picot/Mandatory borders drawn up after World War I may need to be discarded and new borders effectively drawn up with independent Alawite and Kurdish states and a greater Syria, hopefully a greater that originates as a greater Jordan that is a constitutional Hashemite monarchy.  The reason I say that the Israeli's wouldn't like it is that is in their own interest that a greater Syria not be established as a singular state, no matter what government it has.
16  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Germany starts arming the Kurds in Iraq on: September 01, 2014, 06:07:48 pm
That's a lot of small arms and light armor.  I guess a couple of Leopard 2s was out of the question?  Perhaps a lack of training made those out of the question.  Speaking of training, MILANs aren't point and click easy (pretty close I guess) and a lot of the other stuff are going to need some kind of assistance on the ground....is Germany sending trainers too?

I also liked this part
8,000 G3 assault rifles; 2 million rounds of ammunition
40 MG3 heavy (it's not a heavy) machine guns; 1 million rounds of ammunition

The 80 (it's a crew served weapon) guys operating the MG3s are going to be busy.

Not really.  1 million rounds of ammo spread among 40 MG3s amounts to a mere half minute of ammunition per gun.  Of course, there's plenty of suppliers for 7.62mm NATO belt ammo, so that isn't a real problem.

?, the rate of fire is 1000-1300 rpm and that was if the Kurds were superhuman/morons and liked inksing their barrels.

It appears I misplaced a sexagesimal.  Still under a half hour of ammo isn't all that much, even with it not being all fired in one long burst.
17  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: You have to get rid of one of the amendments to the Constitution - which one? on: September 01, 2014, 02:56:04 pm
Definitely the 10th. State governments should have next to no power.

That is where you are sorely mistaken. I'd say the 16th and the 17th equally. The states are meant to be a check on federal power. That's how duel federalism works. I get your desire for massive federal power but it's proven to massively fail in terms of civil rights and liberties.

Jim Crow

The federal government got some of it wrong. Like forced bussing and affirmative act. Weren't those struck down as unconstituitional?

The states got vastly more of it wrong. Like Jim Crow. Wasn't that struck down as unconstitutional?

Technically, the court never struck down the concept of "separate but equal" per se, but instead found that when it came to race and our attitudes to it, separate always led to inequality.  In theory, if society reached the point where people were generally indifferent to race to the point that separate did not lead to inequality, separate facilities for the races would be constitutional.  However, in what has to count as a rare positive version of Catch-22, expressing a desire for separate facilities would be judged as indicating that there was not indifference to race and thus having separate facilities would lead to unequal facilities and thus be constitutionally prohibited.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gay teen attacked by family (VIDEO) on: September 01, 2014, 02:47:25 pm
"I have known you were gay since you were a little boy"
<2 seconds later>
"And you made a choice..."

What a reasonable and intelligent woman. Is this why Texas doesn't want to teach critical thinking?

The two statements are not logically incompatible.  Young people can make choices, indeed that is why some Christian sects, including those who comprise most people who call themselves Christian call for infant baptism.  SO while there is much wrongness there, it isn't a wrongness in logic.  Logical correctness and ethical correctness are independent of each other.

Yes they are. Most little boys don't even know what "gay" means aside from as a generic insult. And of those that do, it's kind of hard to "choose" being sexually attracted to men when you don't even have a sex drive yet.

In my personal experience, attraction between people generally involves more than which physical aspects of sex one wishes to engage in. So I see no reason why children couldn't begin to identify as being attracted to a particular gender before their sex drive is activated by puberty because that attraction need not have a sexual component to it.
19  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Germany starts arming the Kurds in Iraq on: September 01, 2014, 02:39:17 pm
That's a lot of small arms and light armor.  I guess a couple of Leopard 2s was out of the question?  Perhaps a lack of training made those out of the question.  Speaking of training, MILANs aren't point and click easy (pretty close I guess) and a lot of the other stuff are going to need some kind of assistance on the ground....is Germany sending trainers too?

I also liked this part
8,000 G3 assault rifles; 2 million rounds of ammunition
40 MG3 heavy (it's not a heavy) machine guns; 1 million rounds of ammunition

The 80 (it's a crew served weapon) guys operating the MG3s are going to be busy.

Not really.  1 million rounds of ammo spread among 40 MG3s amounts to a mere half minute of ammunition per gun.  Of course, there's plenty of suppliers for 7.62mm NATO belt ammo, so that isn't a real problem.
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gay teen attacked by family (VIDEO) on: September 01, 2014, 02:26:27 pm
"I have known you were gay since you were a little boy"
<2 seconds later>
"And you made a choice..."

What a reasonable and intelligent woman. Is this why Texas doesn't want to teach critical thinking?

The two statements are not logically incompatible.  Young people can make choices, indeed that is why some Christian sects, including those who comprise most people who call themselves Christian call for infant baptism.  SO while there is much wrongness there, it isn't a wrongness in logic.  Logical correctness and ethical correctness are independent of each other.

Call it "faith" if you must, but that family bears as much relation to real Christianity as al-Qaeda and its offshoots bear to real Islam.  That said, no one should deny that they are among those described in Matthew 7:21-23 in that they think they are Christian.
Quote from: Matthew 7:21-23 (NIV)
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?’ Then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers.’

Except many "Christians" in this country are just like this family: God-fearing, people-hating troglodytes.

Unfortunately true, but not just in this country.
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Scottish Independence Referendum - 18 September 2014 on: September 01, 2014, 07:25:17 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDi1OXJn4Vw

I can't believe this. Horrendous to watch.

Impossible to watch as someone lodged a copyright claim on it.

I can not be the only one to appreciate the irony of Ernest complaining about the zealous implementation of copyright law.

I wasn't complaining so much as ... okay, you got me, tho I will point out that the last few moderations I've done for copyright were because someone else reported the infringement.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gay teen attacked by family (VIDEO) on: September 01, 2014, 06:55:16 am
Call it "faith" if you must, but that family bears as much relation to real Christianity as al-Qaeda and its offshoots bear to real Islam.  That said, no one should deny that they are among those described in Matthew 7:21-23 in that they think they are Christian.
Quote from: Matthew 7:21-23 (NIV)
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?’ Then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers.’
23  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Israel steals another 1000 acres of the West Bank on: September 01, 2014, 12:32:45 am
The Palestinian ghetto gets smaller and smaller. When is liquidation day? [/antisemitic]

Yeah, idiotic hyperbole like this isn't really helping your cause.

All the right people hear the dogwhistles. That's what matters to the "Israel is the new Nazis" crew.

Yet, what is your opinion on the subject?

My opinion is that comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is hate speech.
Yes. Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany should be banned.

Are you sure you would prefer the comparison to South Africa and the bantustans? Or with the Russian Empire and the Pale?

True, these might be more appropriate.  But also more dangerous for Israel.

They are more appropriate.  With rare exceptions, even ultra-Zionists don't want to kill the Untermenschen, they just want them to go someplace else and forget that there ever was such a thing as a Palestinian identity.   I don't see either ever happening now, and the Zionists better hope that the latter never happens.  If the Arab world ever does truly unite, Israel is doomed.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Ernest on: August 31, 2014, 10:22:41 pm
FF, even though he likes to paint beige over rainbows.

This covers it...

No, this covers it.

25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Should "A Bag of Weed" from Family Guy be used as a campaign song? on: August 31, 2014, 09:51:22 pm

I would have been surprised had you not.
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