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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Is race strictly a social construct? on: Today at 05:24:27 pm
It would be more accurate to say there are breeds, breeds which for the most part are not pure-bred, and of which the distinguishing characteristics of the breeds are chosen semi-randomly.   However, we should do something about the gingers before they get too troublesome.
2  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: How would you have ruled in the preceding case? on: Today at 05:12:46 pm
Typically this thread has dealt with settled cases, and we have other threads dealing with this particular unsettled case. Still, I'll give it a stab.

Given that the initiative process can pass laws that the normal government would care to not defend or to implement, it would seem prudent that there be a mechanism to compel the government to do that which it would rather not do.  However, California has no such mechanism, therefore the plaintiffs did not have standing to appeal the decision of the district court.  The circuit court ruling is therefore voided and the Ninth Circuit is ordered to ordered to lift its stay due to the failure of any party with standing to file an appeal in the relevant period of time.

Omega S.A. v. Costco Wholesale Corp.
3  General Discussion / History / Re: Moses, Hebrews leaving Egypt, etc. - backed up by other histories? on: Today at 02:11:09 pm
I see the source of your error.  You are using uncalibrated carbon dates.  Because of variations in the amounts of atmospheric C14, carbon dates have to be calibrated using information from tree rings and other sources where the date can be determined external of the variable carbon dates.  Uncalibrated carbon dates are almost always too recent.

Here's a link to a site where you can input the raw radiocarbon data and get a calibrated result. http://calib.qub.ac.uk/calib/calib.html

Putting the data for the most recent result in your table:
GrN-19063 3240 ± 18 -23.72 Hordeum vulgare (i.e., barley)
(After adding in an additional 21 years since the data was collected in 1991 and 1992.)
yields 1550BC as the most probable date of that sample and 1490BC as the upper bound at the 95% confidence level.  The rest of the samples you cite are all older, but even that most advantageous sample puts the destruction of Jericho as at the latest taking place a decade before the reign of Hatshepsut.

I don't know if your source used the raw data in error or in deliberate disregard of basic radiocarbon dating principles because it needed the uncorrected dates to support its chronology.  Either way, the error is obvious to anyone who isn't desperately trying to shoehorn the evidence to fit into a predetermined chronology.
4  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: you otto pick one of these on: Today at 12:27:20 am
Surely you can't have forgotten Otto from Airplane!
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Good Post Gallery on: Today at 12:16:57 am

Depends.  This BK is a loser:
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The New Irony Ore Mine on: Today at 12:12:03 am
Let me get this straight: you don't think you're a socially inept douche bag?
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: New Opinion of Previous Poster's Signature Thread on: Today at 12:09:45 am
The one true Khan, with a chest of Corinthian leather no less.
8  General Discussion / History / Re: Moses, Hebrews leaving Egypt, etc. - backed up by other histories? on: May 18, 2013, 11:48:03 pm
Do you have a cite for Jericho being destroyed so late?  From the best source I've found, the radiocarbon dating of the destruction of Jericho is c.1574 BC ± 44 years at the 95% confidence level.  Any date later than 1500 BC is simply not congruent with the archaeological evidence I've come across.

Of course, that is a big problem for any attempt to assert the historicity of the Hexateuch.  The archaeological record simply does not place the destruction of Jericho at a time at which would allow Joseph to be vizier of a strong Egypt which could have served as the granary of the known world.

As fr the boils, you're aware that it wasn't just pharaohs who were mummified, aren't you?  Any evidence of widespread boils for that time should be able to found in way more than three mummies.

Also, could you provide some sources for your claims?  Many of them are ones I've not read before, and some, such as of the Egyptian style houses, contradict what I have read before.
9  General Discussion / History / Re: Moses, Hebrews leaving Egypt, etc. - backed up by other histories? on: May 18, 2013, 08:16:58 pm
There are the dual problems of the Hebrew slaves being used to construct the city of Ramesses, which was named after one or more of the Rameside pharaohs of the XIXth and XXth centuries and that in Exodus 13:17, the reason given for God not having the Hebrews take the direct path from Egypt to Canaan was that he did not want them to encounter the Philistines too soon.  The Philistines did not come into their power until the XXth Dynasty.

There really are only two choices, either the Book of Exodus is not an accurate historical record, or the pharaoh who refused to let Israel go was of the XXth Dynasty.

If one posits a connection between Akhenaten's monotheism and the Hebrews, it would be far more likely that it was caused by respect for what the God of Joseph had done for Egypt rather than by fear of what the God of Moses had done to Egypt.  Trying to place Moses in the XVIIIth dynasty, especially in the early XVIIIth dynasty as you are doing means placing Joseph's arrival in Egypt during the chaotic Second Intermediate Period of Egyptian history.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SSM in the territories on: May 18, 2013, 11:19:43 am
American Samoa would probably be the first to pass it, while I think Puerto Rico would be the last, assuming that there is no Federal intervention by either the Courts or Congress.  Of the five territories, Puerto Rico was the only one to have a sodomy law still on the books to be struck down by Lawrence v. Texas.

They're openly talking about legalization in the Puerto Rico legislature, so your prediction seems unlikely (not going to pass this year, but within a few years).

If it's more than a couple of legislators introducing something that has no chance of passage, that suggests that their sodomy law was something that was on the books, but not being enforced as of the time of Lawrence, but that seems unlikely since they even increased the penalty in the 70s.  Also, I'd expect the Puerto Ricans who remain on the island to be more socially conservative than those who have come to the mainland.  On the other hand, AFAIK the culture wars haven't been as politically significant in Puerto Rico, so it would be easier for politicians to change their opinions, especially since at the national level they associate mainly with Democrats who have essentially adopted a pro-SSM message. If it wasn't in the 2012 platform, it will be in the 2014 platform.  The question then becomes are the politicians moving ahead of the people on this issue?
11  General Discussion / History / Re: Moses, Hebrews leaving Egypt, etc. - backed up by other histories? on: May 18, 2013, 10:53:53 am
Within 1 pharaoh without boils, Akhenaten comes to power & rejects all of Egypt's gods and worship one sun god.

Akhenaten was born more than a century after Thutmoses II died.  Also the god Aten that Akhenaten worshiped was a prexisting, albeit minor, deity in the Egyptian mythos.

Also, if there is a historical correspondence between the Exodus and the archaeological record, the XVIIIth dynasty is too early. The exodus itself had to have happened after the battle of Qadesh during the reign of Ramesses II. Sometime in the XXth Dynasty is most likely.

12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Do comedians like Bill Maher hurt Democrats with rural/white voters? on: May 18, 2013, 10:12:41 am
The contempt some urban Democrats display toward rural interests definitely doesn't help the donkeys, especially since a fair number of suburban voters like to idealize a bucolic rural lifestyle that never was.
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: If all three UK leaders fell on their swords... on: May 18, 2013, 05:36:08 am
If this was a literal falling on swords, I think most here would be happy to count UKIP as a fourth major party. Wink
14  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: Fat Man on a Diet on: May 17, 2013, 10:41:45 pm
Aboard the bomber Bockscar above Kokura, Japan - 1028 Japanese Time 9 August 1945

Major Sweeney was not normally one for second guessing himself. Given the scuttlebutt about how the prototype had performed, he'd decided not to dawdle and wait for the Big Stink to rendevous.  In hopes of picking up some good luck, he'd decided to follow the Enola Gay to Kokura instead of the Laggin' Dragon to Nagasaki, as both planes had reported clear weather over the potential target cities.  After all, the Enola Gay had successfully dropped Little Boy over Hiroshima three days earlier.

Alas, whatever had bedeviled the plutonium weapon when it had been tested had apparently not been a one time problem as the boffins had thought it was.  Another fizzle.  Maybe a bit more of a boom than the pumpkin bombs that his regular plane, The Great Artiste, had dropped for practice last month, but certainly nothing like the boom he'd seen when piloting The Great Artiste as the observation plane over Hiroshima.
15  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What is your favorite game show? on: May 17, 2013, 05:08:31 pm
Jeopardy! is nice, but I prefer Trebek's earlier work on High Rollers.
16  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: EU LGBT survey: Poll on homophobia sparks concern on: May 17, 2013, 04:56:21 pm
Spain is the Sweden of the Mediterranean Smiley Both Spain and to a lesser extent Portugal are post dictatorial so that shapes a broad swath of social attitudes there.

I had never thought of Tage Erlander as a dictator before, but I guess that explains why he was Prime Minister for 23 uninterrupted years.
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Notice of absence --> May 25 on: May 17, 2013, 10:29:12 am
And my take on the title was bewilderment that May 25 wouldn't be observed this year.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SC rules for Monsanto, says farmer violated genetically modified soybeans patent on: May 17, 2013, 08:19:37 am
You can't rule against somebody because you don't like them, you all should know this.

     Yeah, abusing jurisprudence to hurt companies that we may, even with very good reason, dislike is not the sort of behavior we should be encouraging out of our highest court.

Absolutely.

Still, I disagree with this decision, or at least the legislation upon which it is based.  A seed is self-replicating by nature, and a company should not be able to use the law to prohibit this.

That reasoning would effectively make all plant patents largely worthless after the first year on the market.  Whether or not that should be the case, is something that should be left to Congress to decide.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Alabama Democratic Party is bankrupt, gets evicted from headquarters on: May 17, 2013, 08:15:51 am
Better to be financially bankrupt than morally bankrupt.
20  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: How would you have ruled in the preceding case? on: May 17, 2013, 08:12:41 am
How you link Elk Grove Unified School Dist. v. Newdow to Hennington v. Georgia is beyond me.  The former is an establishment clause case while the latter is an interstate commerce clause case that at most tangentially relates to religion.

Hennington v. Georgia was about the constitutionality of a blue law requiring that railroads in Georgia not operate on Sundays.  Hennington was a manager of the Alabama Great Southern Railroad Company who had his trains run thru Dade County in violation of said law.  Dade County is in the extreme northwest corner of Georgia and the rail line in question connected Chattanooga with New Orleans. (Roughly along the route of I-59 today.)  No stops on Sunday were being made in Georgia as the plaintiff alleged that Georgia's law impinged upon interstate commerce and thus was unconstitutional.

Hennington v. Georgia is one of a long line of cases ruling that the police power of the states when it incidentally affects interstate commerce is not impeded by the interstate commerce clause in the absence of any Congressional legislation to the contrary.  The court found that Georgia's blue law met that standard of having an incidental effect and ruled for the State of Georgia.  While I think the court was a tad too dismissive of the potential effects of such laws on interstate commerce when they impinge upon the ability to travel, especially if conflicting laws were enacted in bordering states, such a hypothetical problem does not apply to this case and thus I would concur with the court.

Next case: 62 Cases of Jam v. United States
21  General Discussion / Alternative History / Fat Man on a Diet on: May 16, 2013, 11:49:37 pm
Since Nerves at Normandy failed to elicit a reaction, I'll try a different alt history thread.

White Sands Proving Ground - 0530 Mountain War Time 16 July 1945

"Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!" said Charles Marvin as he removed his goggles.  He was very junior physicist in the Manhattan Project, having contributed to a study showing that The Gadget, nor indeed any fission bomb, would be unable to initiate a uncontrolled chain reaction in the atmosphere.  However, he hadn't expected that the result of the Trinity test would be this unspectacular.  He been here a couple months earlier to observe the test using 100 tons of TNT to get an explosion with which to calibrate the results today.  He wasn't certain, but he thought the fizzle hadn't even accomplished that.  At least today's results wouldn't affect Little Boy, but until they could figure out what went wrong, Fat Man was likely to be pulled back from the Pacific or at least held in storage until they could do a second test of the plutonium implosion bomb.
22  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Did Republicans alter the Benghazi emails to make Obama look bad? on: May 16, 2013, 11:11:20 pm
Highly unlikely.  The risk is too great.

I'm not saying they necessarily did, but CBS is quite a bit more legitimate than Breitbart, etc., who were accusing the White House.  I would hope they wouldn't report something this serious unless they were quite sure.

I wouldn't get your hopes up too much. The report about them being altered could be a fake.  It wouldn't be the 1st time CBS had been fooled by a text they hoped would be true.
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: New Opinion of Previous Poster's Signature Thread on: May 16, 2013, 09:23:21 pm
I see Atlasia is suffering from a language crisis.
24  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Summer 2013 Outlook on: May 16, 2013, 09:17:57 pm
The European model has been forecasting a major cold outbreak across the eastern U.S. for several days now with some areas potentially challenging records for the entire month of May.

If this verifies, it will likely be a major disaster for fruit/apple growers.  We're talking frost to the mountains of Georgia.

So how badly hit were those fruit growers? 

NASS (National Agricultural Statistical Service) normally wouldn't issue its apple crop estimate until around August, but that was one of the things hit by sequestration so we won't get that this year.

However, as for the frost itself: Several states reporting freeze damage, however not as widespread as in 2012.
25  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What is your favorite game show? on: May 16, 2013, 09:00:09 pm
Match Game (the 70s version), tho I would not support a revival of it.  It is a creature of its time.  In the 70s it was possible to be risque without being fornicatingly obvious about it.  Alas, that is no longer the case.
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