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15201  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Answer the previous poster's question and ask the next poster anything you w on: June 10, 2008, 03:35:39 pm
$12, not including the tip

Metric system, U.S. customary, or Imperial?
15202  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Third Reich of Previous Poster Signature Opinions Thread on: June 10, 2008, 03:31:53 pm
Hmmm.

As for an earlier one that actually interests me enough to comment:
Joe, why is there a picture of a Gary Coleman doll doing an impression of Obama in your sig?
15203  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Knife Control on: June 10, 2008, 03:21:39 pm
I'm amazed at the people who think I was seriously proposing this.  I thought I had enough of a reputation here that people would realize I had my tongue planted firmly in cheek.
15204  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: What if all stocks just split? on: June 10, 2008, 03:19:46 pm
The reason stocks are split (or do a reverse split) is to keep the price within a desired range.  Since a multiple of 100 shares is the usual size of a sale, if a stock is too pricey, it may deter individual investors from buying it and thus depress the value of the stock.  Conversely, if the stock is too cheap, it will get delisted from major stock exchanges.  Such a forced split as CF proposed would essentially hurt smaller valued stocks slightly and help larger valued stocks slightly.  However, smaller valued stocks increase stock churn and with more shareholders, increase costs for shareholder communications.  A few companies spurn stock splits for that reason, the most famous being Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway, which has a share price of over $100,000. As a result is sold on the NYSE as single shares rather than the more usual 100 share lots.
15205  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: 2008 Irish Lisbon Treaty Referendum. on: June 09, 2008, 07:20:51 pm
Near Aberdeen. I expect it to rain a lot. (After spending a week in the States where it was regularly 30+ Celsius and where I couldn't breathe at all due to the humidity I don't think I'll mind too much.)

30 Celsius ain't bad for this time of year.  35 is when it get to be called hot around here and it almost reached a scorching 40 here today.
15206  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: What if-1968 Democratic National Convention on: June 09, 2008, 07:13:06 pm
Unless the State parties split on who to support, starting a third party run after the convention is simply too late.  If McCarthy wasn't willing to try it with Humphrey as the Democratic nominee, he's not going to try it with Kennedy as the Democratic nominee (unless Kennedy were to try to forge a Kennedy/Wallace ticket to reunify the Southern Democrats).

Kennedy/Wallace isn't as crazy as it sounds at first glance.  If you set aside their positions on the war and civil rights, the two were fairly close on the issues.  While Kennedy/Wallace won't happen in 1968, if Kennedy wins in '68 and decides he wants a new Vice President for his second term, Kennedy/Wallace '72 would definitely have been a possibility if the war was not a hot issue and Wallace had moderated his anti-civil rights stance at least as much as he had in OTL.
15207  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election Predictions / Re: Prediction Summary - with states most easily changed noted on: June 09, 2008, 06:52:17 pm
We have 1 new prediction since yesterday.  With a total of 848 predictions, the 5% threshold for an easy change if no one predicts an independent remains at 42.

Here are the easy changes.  West Virginia has shifted from R Lean to R Strong.  The pattern of the changes leads me to believe that most activity is by people who had been predicting Clinton would be the nominee and are updating their maps to reflect Obama as the nominee.


CA: D 50% Strong (35 changes can shift to D  Lean[+2 changes needed]
CO: D 50% Tossup (15 changes can shift to D  40%)   [+2 changes needed]
FL: R 50%  Lean  ( 9 changes can shift to R Tossup) [+8 changes needed]
HI: D 50%  Lean  ( 6 changes can shift to D  Lean[+1 change needed]
MI: D 50% Tossup (10 changes can shift to D  Lean[-5 changes needed]
MO: R 50% Tossup (26 changes can shift to R  40%)   [-2 changes needed]
NV: D 40% Tossup (19 changes can shift to D  30%)   [-9 changes needed]
NV: D 40% Tossup (21 changes can shift to R  30%)   [-9 changes needed]
NV: D 40% Tossup (22 changes can shift to R  40%)   [-9 changes needed]
OH: D 50% Tossup ( 2 changes can shift to D  40%)   [+1 change needed]
PA: D 50% Tossup (41 changes can shift to D  Lean[-1 change needed]
VA: R 50% Tossup (37 changes can shift to R  40%)   [+1 change needed]
WV: R 50% Strong ( 4 changes can shift to R  Lean[+4 changes needed]
15208  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: What if-1968 Democratic National Convention on: June 08, 2008, 11:08:56 pm
Humphrey did debate McCarthy in front of the California delegation during the convention.

With a moderator and all that or just the two of them making their case to the delegation at the same time?  The latter I can believe, though if Kennedy is still alive, then there'd be no reason to hold a debate/conversation in front of Kennedy's California delegates.
15209  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Daily VP Discussion: Mark Sanford on: June 08, 2008, 11:04:40 pm
My main reason for hating the idea of a Vice President Sanford is that it means at least two years of Governor Bauer.  Because of that, if McCain picks Sanford, I'm voting for Obama.


I wouldn't do that. Chances are Bauer will die in a car accident or OD on cocaine while he flies an airplane and crash and die this time.

To be fair, I'm talking about Bauer (who've I despised ever since I had the misfortune to have him as a State Senator), not Ravenel, so I doubt he'd be hopped up on cocaine.  Still, you managed to come up with a worse scenario than Governor Andre Bauer: Governor Glenn F. McConnell.  Of course after he drowns while participating in a test dive of a CSS Hunley replica, we'd get Governor Bobby Harrell which wouldn't be too bad.
15210  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: if the senate is 49-49-2 on: June 08, 2008, 10:47:20 pm
I'd laugh if McCain wins and puts Lieberman in his cabinent, handing the GOP that CT senate seat.

What would be really funny is if the EV is a tie, the House elects Obama President, leaving his Senate seat vacant, and Liebermann's vote determines the Vice-President (48 Dems + Sanders = 49 vs. 49 Reps), and he votes for McCain's running mate.


First off, it'll be the incoming 111th Congress not the current 110th that makes the vote if needed.

Second, unless we have a 50-50 tie in the Senate, the vote for Vice President will be taken well before either Obama or McCain resigns his Senate seat to take the Presidential oath. That said, it looks like the GOP will be fortunate to not lose any Senate seats this election.
15211  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Huckabee attacks Libertarianism on: June 08, 2008, 10:23:12 pm
Except that prostitution isn't a victimless crime.  However, we should stop making being a victim (i.e., a prostitute) a crime.  Life without parole for being a pimp and a month (first offense) for being a john sounds about right.

How is the prostitute a victim? She is voluntarily selling her body for money, as she views the money as being more valuable than her body.

Given the way most pimps "work", she probably sees having unbroken bones as being more valuable than the possibility of venereal disease.  Few prostitutes are volunteers, though of course most johns need the illusion that they are in order to not feel guilty about it.  In those countries such as Sweden which have decriminalized selling sex, but have tough enforcement of the crimes of buying sex and pimping, they have managed to drastically reduce prostitution.  Sweden doesn't have the Eastern European prostitutes that plague most of Western Europe (though they used to) because the organized crime groups that control the volunteers you speak of don't dare operate there any more.
15212  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Comedy Goldmine V: A Tribute to Delayed Sequels with Over-the-Hill Actors on: June 08, 2008, 09:44:26 pm
Lewis apparently has me on ignore!  Sob!
I don't need an ignore button to ignore people. Grin
15213  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Are you a swing voter? on: June 08, 2008, 09:40:13 pm
Yes.  I've managed to vote for four different parties on the same ballot  (D, R, L, and UC).
15214  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Daily VP Discussion: Mark Sanford on: June 08, 2008, 09:30:23 pm
My main reason for hating the idea of a Vice President Sanford is that it means at least two years of Governor Bauer.  Because of that, if McCain picks Sanford, I'm voting for Obama.
15215  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: What if-1968 Democratic National Convention on: June 08, 2008, 09:25:43 pm
Kennedy is more charismatic so why not?

Because of all the POed McCarthy supporters.  There was more bad blood between McCarthy and Kennedy than between either of them and Humphrey.  If McCarthy is left out of the debate there will be even more bad blood.  Of course I seriously doubt that Humphrey would agree to a debate.  Whatever happens, because of that bad blood and his party boss support, Humphrey is guaranteed a spot on the ticket.  Whether that spot will be as #1 or #2 and whether he runs with McCarthy or Kennedy is open to discussion.
15216  Election Archive / 2008 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: SC: Rasmussen: McCain ahead by 9% on: June 08, 2008, 08:49:04 pm
It's not as if Graham has to worry about the General Election, so even with a relatively unknown challenger, spending the money now makes sense for him.

That said, the interesting primary battles Tuesday are the ones where the out-of-state pro-school voucher money is funding primary challenges to Republicans opposed to it.  Of course, at the size of the vouchers I've seen proposed, the proposals are actually a give money to rich parents program and not a get poor kids out of bad schools program.  A voucher that is so small that it won't even pay for the salaries of the teachers, let alone the buildings, supplies, and support staff, is just a gimmick.  I support real school vouchers of at least $5,000 per pupil, but not the let's send money to rich people gimmicks that have been proposed.
15217  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election Predictions / Re: Prediction Summary - with states most easily changed noted on: June 08, 2008, 07:56:18 pm
We have 4 new predictions since yesterday.  With a total of 847 predictions, the 5% threshold for an easy change if no one predicts an independent remains at 42.

Here are the easy changes.  Florida flipped from R Tossup to R Lean, but a change in only prediction would be enough to make it flip back.  After a 1 day absence, the change from in Pennsylvania from D Tossup to D Lean is back on the list.

Overall the past day has been good for the Republicans, but I've noted that Sunday usually is good for them.

CA: D 50% Strong (33 changes can shift to D  Lean[+2 changes needed]
CO: D 50% Tossup (13 changes can shift to D  40%)     [unchanged]
FL: R 50%  Lean  ( 1 change  can shift to R Tossup) [+3 changes needed]
HI: D 50%  Lean  ( 5 changes can shift to D  Lean[+3 changes needed]
MI: D 50% Tossup (15 changes can shift to D  Lean[+2 changes needed]
MO: R 50% Tossup (28 changes can shift to R  40%)    [unchanged]
NV: D 40% Tossup (28 changes can shift to D  30%)    [unchanged]
NV: D 40% Tossup (30 changes can shift to R  30%)    [unchanged]       
NV: D 40% Tossup (31 changes can shift to R  40%)    [unchanged]
OH: D 50% Tossup ( 1 change  can shift to D  40%)   [-4 changes needed]
PA: D 50% Tossup (42 changes can shift to D  Lean[-1 change needed]
VA: R 50% Tossup (36 changes can shift to R  40%)   [-1 change needed]
WV: R 50%  Lean  ( 1 change  can shift to R Strong) [-7 changes needed]
15218  Election Archive / 2008 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: SC: Rasmussen: McCain ahead by 9% on: June 08, 2008, 07:21:11 pm
Obama has a chance to have a chance at winning South Carolina! He can make McCain spend money there!

Well, McCain is appearing in television ads here now.
Supporting Lindsey Graham in the primary here Tuesday, that is.
15219  General Politics / Political Debate / Knife Control on: June 08, 2008, 12:24:39 pm
Yesterday's carnage in the Akihabara district of Tokyo (link) shows that we need knife control.  How many more people have to die at the hands of knife-wielding lunatics before governments will act?
15220  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Coalition governments in the U.S. on: June 07, 2008, 03:47:29 pm
The 31st Congress (1849-1851) had a minority Democratic organization is the House.

The 34th Congress (1855-1857) had a coalition between the various parties that were opposed to the Democrats governing the House,

The 36th Congress (1859-1861) had a Republican led coalition in the House that took almost two months to elect a Speaker.

The 62nd Congress (1911-1913) had a Republican majority at first, but the split caused by Roosevelt's attempt to be be President fractured it. Then when PPT Frye resigned due to ill health, because they were unable to agree on a replacement, they ended up rotating the office among four different Republicans and a Democrat, Augustus O. Bacon who got to be PPT 10 different times that session, interspersed with Republicans.

The 65th Congress (1917-1919) had a Republican plurality in the House, but thanks to the Progressives, the Democrats had control of that body.

As elected, the 72nd Congress (1931-1933) had 217 Democrats, 217 Republicans, and 1 Farmer-Labor Representative, but by the time they got into session, special elections had given the Democrats the majority.

The 83rd Congress (1953-1955) saw the Republicans start off with a plurality over the Democrats 48-47-1 in the Senate until Nixon became Vice President.

Finally in the 107th Congress (2001-2003) when Jeffords became an independent, he caucused with the Democrats giving them control of the Senate.

Plus, there were several Senates not mentioned here where the Vice President sat over an evenly divided Senate and thereby determined who would have control.
15221  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election Predictions / Re: Prediction Summary - with states most easily changed noted on: June 07, 2008, 02:27:19 pm
We have 9 new predictions since Wednesday (3 days ago).  With a total of 843 predictions, the 5% threshold for an easy change if no one predicts an independent has increased by 1 to 42.

I've decided to indicate the changes that affect the line graph with yellow highlighting instead of bold text, as with the constant width font I'm using, bold type isn't that different from roman type.

Here are the easy changes.  Hawaii has switched since the last summary from D Lean to D Strong.  Pennsylvania going from D Tossup to D Lean is no longer within the range of an easy change as it will take 43 changes to make that happen now.  Overall, the revisions were about equal, but in terms of those with the potential to change the line graph, the Republicans clearly had the benefit.  With PA no longer on the list I decided to bite the bullet and add the two lines for Nevada.

CA: D 50% Strong (31 changes can shift to D  Lean[+2 changes needed]
CO: D 50% Tossup (13 changes can shift to D  40%)   [+6 changes needed]
FL: R 50% Tossup ( 3 changes can shift to R  Lean[-7 changes needed]
HI: D 50%  Lean  ( 2 changes can shift to D  Lean[+3 changes needed]
MO: R 50% Tossup (28 changes can shift to R  40%[-11 changes needed]
MI: D 50% Tossup (13 changes can shift to D  Lean[+5 changes needed]
NV: D 40% Tossup (28 changes can shift to D  30%)   [-1 change needed]
NV: D 40% Tossup (30 changes can shift to R  30%)   [new substat]
NV: D 40% Tossup (31 changes can shift to R  40%)   [new substat]
OH: D 50% Tossup ( 2 changes can shift to D  40%)   [-3 changes needed]
VA: R 50% Tossup (37 changes can shift to R  40%)   [-3 changes needed]
WV: R 50%  Lean  ( 8 changes can shift to R Strong) [-6 changes needed]

15222  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Glitch on: June 07, 2008, 01:22:13 pm
It's slightly glitchy for me in Firefox, and really glitchy in IE.  I think the problem is that is it is trying to load the map for the 23rd and it isn't there.

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/MAPS/TIMELINE/20080223Prim1.png  gives a 404 error, but the other results maps such as http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/MAPS/TIMELINE/20080219Prim1.png do not.

Either Dave gave it the wrong name when he added it to the site, or he hasn't added it yet.
15223  Election Archive / 2008 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: WV: Rasmussen: Obama 8% down in WV on: June 06, 2008, 10:45:04 pm
[Barr may not even be on the ballot in WV. Does anyone know the requirements for getting on the ballot as an independent?

15,118 signatures submitted by August 1st according to Ballot Access News.  As of May 1st, the Greens are already on the ballot there, and the Constitution Party appears to be well on its way with its signature drive,
15224  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Comedy Goldmine V: A Tribute to Delayed Sequels with Over-the-Hill Actors on: June 06, 2008, 09:35:36 pm
I'm not Al. I'm Silent Hunter.

Sorry for any unwanted distractions.

Silence!  You have the same avatar, so you must be the same person!

Thus, I am BRTD.  *shudder*

Prove it by posting a thread on strip clubs.
15225  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Fluorescent yellow is an abomination on: June 06, 2008, 09:34:25 pm
I try to avoid the use of highlighters.  For one thing, they tend to bleed onto the other side and then you have a problem with them.  The overuse of highlighters by others was also a reason why I tended to buy new textbooks even when used ones were available.  Of course, there are those who delight in highlighting random words in a kaleidescope of colors.
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