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15201  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: RNC & Romney start joint fundraising on: April 03, 2012, 09:38:00 pm
If you read the article as I did this morning during breakfast, the RNC has offered the same deal to the other campaigns, but as cash strapped as they are, they'd prefer to keep all the donor money they can raise all for themselves right now.

They also did much the same at this point with McCain in 2008.
15202  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Obama on: April 03, 2012, 09:23:38 pm
If the race in the fall looks like the race now, Obama will be campaigning wherever he can help the Dems pick up or retain House or Senate seats.  However, even with as poor a candidate as Romney, I expect the race to tighten up, plus the unexpected could happen so I doubt if Obama will consider doing that until the last couple of weeks.

I expect he'll be concentrating on Florida,  Iowa, North Carolina, Ohio, Omaha, Pennsylvania, Virgina.

Nevada and New Hampshire will get some campaigning, but little to none in actual Obama visits since they are small and not adjacent to other potential prizes.  Romney's more likely to campaign in those states, but that's to get a leg up on the 2016 primaries if by some miracle he wins in the fall.   Colorado also falls into this category except that if the race looks close nationally, it'll see a good deal of Obama.

If the race gets to the point where states like Arizona, Georgia, Indiana, and Missouri are possible then Obama need to start campaigning not for his own election but to help the Democrats get as many Congressional seats as possible.
15203  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Santorum Cannot Add 1 + 100 Even If You Spot Him The Two 1s on: April 03, 2012, 08:45:46 pm
Can somebody explain what I am missing?

First, Romney is such a poor candidate that he'll only win in November if any Republican will be able to win.  His only advantage is money and the money that would go to support Romney in a general election campaign would not also go to whoever the nominee is.

Second, Santorum isn't damaging Romney.  Romney is damaging Romney and at most all Santorum is doing is helping to expose the damage now instead of during the general election.  Unfortunately the damage appears not to have been exposed in time for it to matter.

Third, if Gingrich wasn't still in, Santorum night drop out now, but as I've said before, in case something does happen to Romney, Santorum can't afford to let Gingrich soak up the remaining anti-Romney delegates.  So if the Mittbots want to get Santorum to end his campaign, they need to convince Gingrich to end his first.
15204  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: What are Mitt Romney's actual political views? on: April 03, 2012, 08:35:10 pm
Ernest - that's an interesting perspective.

I came to that realization quite some time ago that Romney is willing to say anything - even tossing Planned parenthood under the bus if he thinks it will help him get elected. I'm mystified by the people still supporting him - apparently they know what he's really like?

I'm guessing they learned how to stop worrying and love the boob, but that is strange a love for me.  Perhaps if I start drinking Rubio's Floridated water?
15205  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: Supreme Court rules 5-4 in favor of Big Government on: April 03, 2012, 07:15:39 pm
I hope we can all agree that in a mixed security lockup facility it makes sense to inspect for contraband at a degree consistent with the highest level of security.

As I see it, the fault here, if any, is not with the treatment of the individual at the detention facilities, but whether such a mixed security facility is reasonable and/or whether the individual was locked up in a facility appropriate to the offense the police had reason to believe the individual committed.

Both Burlington and Essex Counties in New Jersey are large enough that segregating minor offenders from major offenders (either at separate facilities or segregated sections of the same facility) should not impose an undue burden.

However, for the offense for which he was detained (not the traffic offense, but the outstanding warrant that was in error but which the police had no way of knowing was in error) I would conclude that being housed in a more secure facility was reasonable.

With the exception of Thomas, the majority justices left open the possibility that strip-searches for those held for less serious offenses would not be warranted.
15206  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: If I had my way, we'd go to war with... on: April 03, 2012, 12:28:02 am
If I had my druthers, I'd stop the murder in Syria and N.Korea rightnow and would have long talks with the people in charge of a dozen or so other places.  War sucks, but it's better than letting innocents be murdered when we have the ability to stop it.

We have the power of kicking over those anthills and getting rid of the current rulers.  Far less clear is that doing so would stop the killing.
15207  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: What are Mitt Romney's actual political views? on: April 03, 2012, 12:14:16 am
I've thought for a long time that Romney is only running for president to avenge his father's defeat, and other than making himself and his cronies wealthier, he doesn't have any other political principles (though he might have a few Mormon-esque social views, like being pro-Drug War and whatnot).

Considering what happened the last time we elected someone who wanted to avenge his father's defeat in a presidential election, that's not exactly a reason to vote for Mitt.  I swear that every time I learn more about Mitt such as his former positions on energy policy on Morning Edition this morning, the less willing I become to consider holding my nose and voting for him if he gets the nomination.

For one thing, Mitt's going to have a tough time using gas prices to help him beat Obama.  I wonder if a PAC has already prepared ads with gems from Gov. Romney such as "I'm very much in favor of people recognizing that these high gasoline prices are probably here to stay."  Or from when he put forth a plan to cut greenhouse gases and said, "This plan is going to reduce pollution. It's going to cut energy demand. It's also going to nurture job growth and boost our economy, because reducing greenhouse gases has multiple benefits."  The kindest thing I can say about his change in energy policy is that it could be interpreted as only a 135 degree change instead of an 180 degree.

If you want to be President, you need to be willing to lead, but Mitt's business experience seems to have caused him to conclude that his primary task will be to cater to customer voter desires.  While not unimportant, I have yet to see anything that indicates that he is anything more than a slick salesman who tells customers voters what they want to hear so that they will buy his product vote for him. I fear if he's president, he'll do mainly whatever his advisers tell him is popular and we have some serious problems that don't have any popular solutions that will actually work.  If Romney is President, I think he'll kick the can down another four or eight years and hope that the sh**t hits the fan when some other shmuck is President.

My whole reason for supporting a Republican for president this time is that I think we need a President who can get things done, and because of the probable composition of the House, that means we need a Republican.  But I've come to the conclusion Romney won't tackle anything difficult.  Back when he was in charge of Bain, he could select which companies to take over, the ones that he thought would be relatively easy to fix.  He won't be able to do that as president.

It's looking more and more likely I'll be voting third party in November.  I won't be voting for Obama, but I honestly cannot see myself voting for Romney.  I keep hoping that the Republicans will get a contested convention so that they can find a candidate I could support, but that hope looks extremely dim right now.  Still, it is brighter than the hope I once had that I could learn to stop worrying and love the boob.
15208  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: If I had my way, we'd go to war with... on: April 02, 2012, 09:00:44 pm
I voted nobody, but Mali, Sudan, Somalia, and Yemen should all have been on that list for me to ignore.
15209  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Timeline of the night Trayvon Martin was killed -- CNN on: April 02, 2012, 08:58:25 pm
A police car at close to 8 pm, could simply flip its siren and go through a stop light.

Why would flip the lights?  There was no urgent need to get Zimmerman back to the station.  Indeed, I'd consider it to be poor procedure if they flipped the lights.
15210  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Coup d'etat in Mali on: April 02, 2012, 08:53:40 pm
Also, another new country so soon after South Sudan? That would confirm all the fears of African heads of states and the West about redrawing African boundaries being a pandora's box best left unopened.

Worth noting that the country at stake in both cases straddled the Sub-Saharan "Black Africa"/North Africa-Sahara-divide.

Also worth noting that Mali was formerly known as French Soudan.
15211  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: UK General Discussion on: April 02, 2012, 08:48:38 pm
Judging by those graphs, Cameron is sort of like democracy now: he's the worst possible choice for PM except for all the others.  Labour needs to ditch Milliband.
15212  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Alleged sentence I allegedly stumbled upon on wikipedia on: April 02, 2012, 08:41:57 pm
The paragraph in question has been edited and now looks like this:

"In 1981, an alleged Iranian front organisation, allegedly called the Allegedly Islamic Front for the alleged Liberation of Bahrain allegedly attempted a coup d'tat allegedly through an alleged plan allegedly involving the assassination of Bahrain's alleged leadership and an alleged Islamist uprising. The alleged aim was to install an allegedly clerical leadership with a cleric allegedly serving as supreme leader,."

I'll allege that someone from the Forum allegedly edited it.
15213  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: The basis of Mormonism is no more illegitimate than the basis of any relgion on: April 02, 2012, 08:24:04 pm
Somehow Christianity wasn't American enough, and that's why a few guys came up with the invisible golden tablets. It's the quintessential 19th century American religion, just like Scientology is the American religion of the 20th century.

To be fair, Mormonism does address a perceived problem with standard Christian doctrine that arose because of the discovery of the Americas.  If Christ is sole path to salvation, how could a just god condemn the residents of the Americas for fifteen centuries to eternal damnation because it was impossible for them to receive his message. It does so by inventing a tale of Christ himself delivering his message to the ancient peoples of the Americas, and it addresses the problem more generally through its doctrine of baptism of the dead.
15214  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: opinion of tanning beds on: April 02, 2012, 08:01:32 pm
At least with tanning beds you don't have to worry about secondhand UV rays.
15215  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Michael A. Naso Institute of Comedy on: April 02, 2012, 07:59:55 pm
From the thread "Did Obama win black Republicans?" in the 2008 U.S. Presidential Election Results board.

Who knows? Where are Black Republicans concentrated, anyways
Cable news networks.
15216  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Coup d'etat in Mali on: April 02, 2012, 12:29:47 am
Yeah Samake still has a better chance of becoming the first Mormon head of state then Mitt Romney.

After the Mormon brothers win their elections, they will move the national capitals to Timbuktu and Kalamazoo, and sign the Dr. Seuss Mormon brotherhood agreement.

WHOOOOOOOOOOO!  WHOOOOOOOOOOO!
wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!  wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!

That is one of my favorite children's book from my childhood you are referencing there and The Train to Timbuctoo had absolutely nothing to do with Dr. Seuss as inimitable Margaret Wise Brown wrote it.

CLACKETY-CLACK!  CLACKETY-CLACK!
clickety-click! clickety-click!

Not even the same publisher, as Dr. Seuss was published by Random House and this classic gem was a Little Golden Book.

POCKETA-POCKETA-POCKETA-POCKETA
picketa-picketa-pcketa-picketa

Anyway, now that I've cleared that up, Goodnight jfern!

WHOOOOOOOO! WHOOOOOOOOO!
wheeeeeeeeee! wheeeeeeeeeee!
15217  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: Constitutionality of banning certain types of bullets on: April 01, 2012, 11:00:40 pm
Presuming that the usual weaseling idea that weapons with no military use are not protected (thereby justifying bans on sawed-off shotguns and switchblades) then banning explosive bullets would be constitutional.  There's a international treaty (possibly one of the Geneva's) that bans the use of them in war.
15218  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: I demand the removal of my death points! on: April 01, 2012, 05:43:20 pm
April's fool is an april's fool.

The really funny thing is that I actually did have a dream last night about receiving death points for a post about cute baby pictures that were bigger than 350 pixels.

All points incurred really lasted for only one lacuna.
15219  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Coup d'etat in Mali on: April 01, 2012, 02:34:31 pm
Considering the fact that the coup was supposedly to better fight the rebels, it seems like a pretty big failure so far.

Yes and no.  The troops were tired of being treated like expendables used to keep the Azawad part of Mali.  I hope folks haven't yet gone out ad bought new maps with South Sudan on it.  While the coup leaders have said they are restoring the constitution, they (or a restored civilian government) may decide to give the the rebels their independence rather than fight a war to retake what has been lost.
15220  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Advanced Floterial Districts on: April 01, 2012, 01:58:14 pm
The random vote idea does not address the problems with fairness, tho to a limited extent it does make calculating the votes easier, at the cost of ensuring that the random disposition really is random.  (What we often call random numbers really aren't and I for one would definitely not be comfortable with the use of computer-generated pseudorandom numbers for that purpose.)

Floterial voting does not solve any real problem and they add additional ways to gerrymander.  About the only way they might make sense would if you want to have most representatives elected from primary districts that never change due to a new census, with the overages being used to select top-off representatives elect at-large, not from secondary districts.
15221  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: time to pay tribute to the best April Fools prank of all time on: April 01, 2012, 10:42:20 am
Nah, if you want to pay tribute to the best prank, have spaghetti for dinner today.
15222  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: north carolina on: April 01, 2012, 01:42:05 am
Romney's got to worry about shoring up the south - the states that are likely to go for him are Obama's weakest states. Romney being weak among the South puts South Carolina, GA, Tennessee and Alabama in play, and possibly Mississippi. I expect Obama to sweep the south vs Romney.

No.  Unless Romney implodes even worse than I fear he will, there is no way he loses South Carolina, Alabama, or Mississippi.  All three states are highly polarized so any national swing will be muted in these three states.  Putting Tennessee as only lean GOP is optimistic for Obama but not as ludicrous as Obama sweeping Dixie.  Georgia's the only one of the five you mentioned that it reasonable that Obama might have a shot at, but if Georgia is a tossup, Romney loses the election anyway.
15223  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Just in case you still had any hope left for this country... on: April 01, 2012, 01:20:22 am
Hindsight is twenty twenty. Until half of you go through the process of figuring out who really needs help in the er and who's just wants to utilize the system you really have no right to speak negatively about the people in this particular case. There's no full proof way to know who needs treatment and who's wasting your time.

What's so difficult to understand about this? If a poor woman runs into a hospital screaming about horrible pain, you should help her if it's at all possible. You shouldn't worry about how she is going to pay for her treatment right off the bat (or at least we wouldn't do this in a non-ruthless, money driven society). And if the ER literally had no ability to help her because they were already overrun or understaffed or whatever (and I see nothing to suggest that was the case here) then the least they could have done was point her in the direction of somewhere else that might help her. Instead, they had her taken off the property and arrested by some cops that were apparently either pretty malicious or incredibly dumb.

And of course I have a right to speak negatively about these creeps, it's a free country (supposedly).

Except what you wrote bears almost no resemblance to reality.  They did check her out even doing an X-Ray and ultrasound and all they were able to diagnose that was wrong with her was the sprain that she had reported on her first trip to the ER.  They'd already done all they could do with that diagnosis.  Contrary to what you said, they even gave her pain medication, but if they had not, it would have done nothing about the clots that killed her.

When she returned eight hours later, complaining of abdominal pain, they were possibly overly dismissive of her symptoms.  That likely was in part because even when there is an embolism from a leg injury, it doesn't end up there.  It usually ends up in the lungs causing chest pain, not abdominal pain.  With no apparent linkage, I'm not surprised that they suspected she was trying to get some more free opiates.
15224  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Sources: Nikki Haley to be indicted on tax fraud. on: March 31, 2012, 11:40:01 pm
Haley, like with Sanford before her, is standing in the way of a large number for Democrat turned Republican porkers, who would probably be doing far worse, if given a free hand. They have much incentive to try and tarnish her and make her look hypocritical. I wonder if they were behind this false story.

It's turned out to be such a laughable false story that I can't help but wonder if someone in Haley's circle planted it so that she could play the victim card again. I'd hope no one in politics would be stupid enough to think that something so flimsy as this turned out to be would actually be damaging. On the other hand, the SCDP does not always do smart things.  Haley has some real but minor problems with an ethics investigation.  This will be a nice distraction from it and let her charge that it is just as baseless.
15225  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: opinion of tobacco products. on: March 31, 2012, 06:20:55 pm
Never smoked, but if I ever did, it would be a pipe like my dad did.
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