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15201  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Glenn Beck had nothing to talk about today. on: February 17, 2010, 03:34:39 pm
You watch Fox News? Frequently enough to compare today with other days? Seriously? I was flipping through the channels at my grandmother's apartment yesterday, and they had some guy impersonating Alexander Hamilton (in full costume) complaining about Obama's big guvment.

And you guys wonder why our education system makes me cry sometimes........

Agreed.  If they were living today and held similar views to what they held then (adjusted for two centuries difference in what the main issues are), Hamilton would be a Democrat and Jefferson would be a Republican.

I don't think so. Hamilton represented business interests first and foremost.

Hamilton's proposed means of aiding business interests were protective tariffs and stimulative spending on American manufactures.  Sounds far more like a Democratic proposal than a Republican one.  He wanted a stronger national government, which again is more Democratic than Republican these days.
15202  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is using Federal troops to kill striking workers ok? on: February 17, 2010, 03:29:21 pm
Sure, how dare those bastards refuse to serve their benevolent masters and work for their prosperity ?

More like how dare those bastards use force and intimidation to keep others from working.  That's where the Pullman Strikers went wrong.

And so ? Let's kill them for that ?

No, for attacking the troops who were sent to keep the strikers from attacking the strikebreakers who were willing to work for the wages the strikers thought were inadequate.  What were the troops supposed to do?  Let themselves be beaten and killed by the strikers?  Let them terrorize others with mob tactics?
15203  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Do vaccines cause autism? on: February 17, 2010, 12:19:58 am
That's not very fair.  There's far more to the issue than that and she's done her homework.  She's suggesting that vaccines be developed and administered more safely to prevent autism and several other issues that correlate at extreme levels.  She could be wrong, but no one has proven it.
You do realize that the initial "study" of twelve children that started the whole MMR vaccine scare has been shown to be falsified by a hack scientist working for trial lawyers.  There have been multiple studies done since then and they all show no evidence of correlation between being autism and receiving the MMR vaccine.
15204  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: Governors of Georgia (1959-Present) - ROUND THREE on: February 16, 2010, 09:06:16 pm
Roy Barnes
15205  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The victimisation of Sarah Palin on: February 16, 2010, 08:22:57 pm
What purpose does it serve to whine and moan and release a snotty statement every time someone says something you don't like?

It keeps herself in the news, which seems to be the only purpose Palin cares about these days.
15206  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Glenn Beck had nothing to talk about today. on: February 16, 2010, 08:20:11 pm
You watch Fox News? Frequently enough to compare today with other days? Seriously? I was flipping through the channels at my grandmother's apartment yesterday, and they had some guy impersonating Alexander Hamilton (in full costume) complaining about Obama's big guvment.

And you guys wonder why our education system makes me cry sometimes........

Agreed.  If they were living today and held similar views to what they held then (adjusted for two centuries difference in what the main issues are), Hamilton would be a Democrat and Jefferson would be a Republican.
15207  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is using Federal troops to kill striking workers ok? on: February 16, 2010, 08:11:10 pm
Sure, how dare those bastards refuse to serve their benevolent masters and work for their prosperity ?

More like how dare those bastards use force and intimidation to keep others from working.  That's where the Pullman Strikers went wrong.

The Republicans today don't dare dream of an election as good for them as the resulting 1894 election.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_1894

They'd need the Democrats to split into two parties as they did then to do it.  For instance, in California if the Democrats and the Populists had been united, instead of the Republicans winning six of teh seven seats of the delegation, they'd have had no seats whatsoever.
15208  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Will Bayh run in 2012? on: February 16, 2010, 04:16:31 pm
It's remotely possible that he could run as the lower half of a centrist/independent/bipartisan ticket.  Something along the lines of Bloomberg/Bayh.  Not that I anticipate such a ticket having much success, nor would I expect a serious third option arising.  However if both the Republicans and Democrats continue in their current paths, maybe by 2016, but by then Bayh will be too long gone to have much hope of being more than a cabinet secretary if a third option won.
15209  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Why did Hispanics give Bush a relatively high % of the vote on: February 16, 2010, 04:08:35 pm
How 9/11 derailed Bush's apparent interest in dealing with Latin American issues is one of the more disappointing aspects of the whole sorrt mess that resulted.  Bush had the potential get some sensible policies in place there.  Much as only Nixon could go to China, it's going to take a Republican President to push through any meaningful immigration reform.
15210  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What is Rochambeau? on: February 16, 2010, 01:23:10 am
Venture Brothers deals with the problem....

Jefferson Twilight: On three we give him the old Rochambeau.
The Alchemist: Rock-paper-scissors?
Dr. Orpheus: What does a general from the American Revolution have to do with this?
Jefferson Twilight: American Revolution? Rochambeau sounds…sounds French to me.
Dr. Orpheus: Yes, the Franco-American forces.
Jefferson Twilight: They fought with spaghetti-o’s and meatballs?
The Alchemist: Why would a company called Franco-American make Italian food?


The Order of the Triad rules.

How could Rochambeau be the French version of rock-paper-scissors?  There's no option to surrender in RPS. Grin
15211  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Pope Demands Explanation From Irish Bishops on: February 16, 2010, 12:58:55 am
I have to wonder if this steady stream of sex-abuse scandals will eventually lead to the Latin Rite abandoning the requirement of priestly celibacy.

Because celibate man obviously equals child molester, right?

No, my thinking was that the scandals would add to the already difficult task the Latin Rite has of finding enough people to be priests, so that the Latin Rite would be forced to follow the example of the Eastern Catholic Churches if it wanted to have enough.
15212  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Pope Demands Explanation From Irish Bishops on: February 16, 2010, 12:45:16 am
I have to wonder if this steady stream of sex-abuse scandals will eventually lead to the Latin Rite abandoning the requirement of priestly celibacy.
15213  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: The Perry v. Schwarzenegger discussion thread on: February 16, 2010, 12:02:49 am
It also could trigger a Constitutional Convention so that a Defense of Marriage Amendment can be considered that would leave the issue of Marriage to each State.

Most likely this would only enrage those who are opposed to same-sex marriage, leading to a huge movement to ban same-sex marriage with a Constitutional amendment.  Most Americans do not believe in federalism, anymore.  It's either same-sex marriage should be banned on a federal level, or should be legalized on a federal level.  Ask anybody on the street what the Tenth Amendment is and they probably wouldn't know.

Such an amendment clarifying that same-sex marriage should be left to the states would be great.  It will never happen, though.  Not with all the hacks in Washington who think that their views are 100% the best for Murica, and should therefor be shoved down everyone's throats.

It's not that I think those opposed to same-sex marriage are proponents of federalism, but that I think they'll realize that they can't hope to get thirty-eight States to approve an amendment for an outright ban, but by reframing it as an issue to be left to the States, it might be able to pass.  Even then it's doubtful it would pass unless it was sent to State Conventions, which the GOP might do if they are in charge of Congress at the time.
15214  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is using Federal troops to kill striking workers ok? on: February 15, 2010, 11:51:54 pm
Depends on what all the strikers are doing.  I'll happily support Cleveland's actions against the thuggish and racist American Railway Union in the Pullman Strike.  That said, the monopolistic and paternalistic Pullman Company doesn't get any sympathy from me either.
15215  Questions and Answers / Polling / Re: Is SurveyUSA going bankrupt ? on: February 15, 2010, 10:54:49 am
f you take a look at the 2006 mega polls, you'll see that SUSA only had to do twelve of the States pro bono and had local TV sponsors for the other thirty-eight.  Local TV news has apparently decided that doing monthly tracking polls generally don't spark ratings.  Thankfully, most people have better sense than to be political junkies.
15216  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Favorite Gospel on: February 14, 2010, 11:35:34 pm
It should be no surprise given my Ebionite viewpoint that Matthew is my favorite gospel.
15217  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: Governors of Georgia (1959-Present) - ROUND TWO on: February 14, 2010, 10:41:00 pm
Roy Barnes
15218  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: England Remains Catholic on: February 14, 2010, 10:38:09 pm
Are there any implications with regard to the United States?  Would there still have been thirteen colonies situated along the Atlantic seaboard? 

There would be differences of course.  No Maryland, since there would be no need to establish a colony for Catholics.  If Virginia keeps the name it'll be named after the Virgin Mary, not Elizabeth.

New Netherland might get established with Spanish blessing if the Netherlands remain content under Habsburg rule.
15219  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Re: Bush v Kerry 04 no Rove on: February 14, 2010, 10:08:08 pm
Hack map. Bush would not win less than 200 EVs in 2004, even without Rove.

I see you didn't even bother to read the fine print I included in case someone didn't grasp the obvious. Let me repeat it full size this time:
Anyone who believes this is a serious prediction needs to have their funnybone examined.
15220  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What sort of punishment should Kaljew get for sockpuppeting? on: February 14, 2010, 06:13:06 pm
Have his old account shut down and force him to use the Larry T account.
15221  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: England Remains Catholic on: February 14, 2010, 06:08:12 pm
The "Church of France" if it were established, would likely have tried to present itself as a type of Reformed Catholicism, similar to the Church of England under Henry VIII.  A lot depends on how there not being a Church of England affects the development of the French Reformation in the six decades between the marriage to Anne Boleyn and the Edict of Nantes.
15222  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Re: Bush v Kerry 04 no Rove on: February 14, 2010, 05:50:09 pm


Kerry 405
Bush 133

Anyone who believes this is a serious prediction needs to have their funnybone examined.
15223  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Re: FDR vs. Robert Taft 1940 with no WWII on: February 14, 2010, 05:35:07 pm
I think it would have been easy for FDR to tie Taft to Hoover, and considering unemployment was still very high in 1940, it might have very well worked.

Quite the reverse. if the recession of 1937-8 extends into 1940 because of no war, it will hurt the Democrats, and not just because of voters deciding to give the Republicans a second chance.  FDR could also bleed votes to the minor parties of the left as well.
15224  General Discussion / Alternative History / Re: England Remains Catholic on: February 14, 2010, 04:56:10 pm
One possible ramification would be that a France buffeted by a Anglo-Spanish Catholic alliance and most of its traditional allies becoming Protestant might have established a Church of France with a Protestant "Pope" in Avignon.
15225  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Should rimming be outlawed? on: February 14, 2010, 04:29:47 pm
Of course! It really messes up the roads if you don't have tires on your automobile.  Doing it on the rails is ever worse as you risk colliding with a train.
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