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16726  General Discussion / History / Re: Who has been America's worst President? on: March 31, 2008, 02:07:57 pm
Or that the United States fought a war to protect their right to secede from Great Britain?

No, they fought a tax revolt that got turned into a revolution.  Independence was, except for a few Yankee hotheads, not the intent of the colonists at first.
16727  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Collecting Antiques and Other Rarities on: March 30, 2008, 08:41:33 pm
The coin I have that is the strangest is 4 maravedí coin produced in the Spanish colonies in the name of Ferdinand VII during the period that Napoleon's brother Joseph was on the throne.
16728  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Obama vindicated on law-school title on: March 30, 2008, 07:54:13 pm
Did anyone ever call McCain an admiral?  Was he ever offered to become an admiral?

No.  Thanks to the time he lost as a POW, and the physical abuse he suffered then, his career stalled at Captain.  Had he not been shot down, he likely would have made flag rank as his father and grandfather did, though full Admiral would not have been certain.

What will be interesting will be the 2009 Annapolis graduation of John S. McCain IV if his dad is President.
16729  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK Local Elections : May 1st 2008 on: March 30, 2008, 07:10:02 pm
Because in the UK (especially Wales), NPI stands for Non Party Independent (the classfication I have had to come up with for candidates who stand as Name (No Party).

As opposed to what, Party Independent?  Being Independent (Ind) pretty much precludes being part of a party, or at least it does in plain English.
16730  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Clean Coal vs. Nuclear Energy on: March 30, 2008, 06:58:07 pm
no technology is totally clean, but we've already worked out most of the problems with nuclear energy and have a reasonably certain estimate of the costs and risks.  Clean coal on the other hand makes some questionable assumptions about how easy it will be to sequester the CO2, such as how do we get it to where we intend to sequester it on a large scale and how long will it stay sequestered?

Actually, the best idea for reducing CO2 emissions may not be sequestration but conversion to methanol or hydrocarbons.  The energy used for doing so could be provided by renewable sources such as solar and wind and thus act as a way to smooth out the peaks and valleys of those sources.  Temporary storage to store the gas until it was converted is quite doable.  It is not currently done much because of the expense, but as the cost of CO2 emissions increase due to carbon taxing and/or cap and trade programs, such systems become workable and don't require us to develop an infrastructure to move large quantities of CO2 around.
16731  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Islam surpasses Roman Catholicism as world's largest religion on: March 30, 2008, 06:00:01 pm
Abrahamic: 53.5%

You neglected to include the Bahá'í, so make that 53.6%.
16732  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Comedy Goldmine 4: Mystery Atlas Theater 3000 on: March 30, 2008, 05:48:29 pm
Form later in that same thread:

A religoius argument turning into a semantics argument?  NEVER!
16733  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Collecting Antiques and Other Rarities on: March 29, 2008, 11:23:51 pm
Yeah...but if y'all hadn't been so stubborn we wouldn't have had to shoot!  Smiley 

I'm actually interchangeable on names, Unless I'm at UDC. 
Anyways..It makes for good collecting.  I actually wouldn't mind collecting Rev War gear but that could get pricey!

So that's why you stick to stuff from the Second American Revolution? Wink
16734  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: UK Local Elections : May 1st 2008 on: March 29, 2008, 11:15:47 pm
Result 2004 : If emboldened, candidate elected
Arthur John Moelfryn MASKELL, NPI      294   107.42%
Thomas Gerallt DAVIES, NPI      274   100.12%
Margaret Leah Jocelyn ANDREW, NPI      273   99.75%
Carys Lloyd LEWIS, NPI      272   99.39%
Euryd Rhys JONES, NPI      263   96.10%
Barrie Granville OWEN, NPI      243   88.79%
Margaret Davina EVANS, NPI      236   86.23%
Evan Idris Wyn EVANS, NPI      231   84.40%
Dewi Wyn JONES, NPI      221   80.75%

Peter James Harry Jones HAYFIELD, LDm      156   57.00%

What is a faction of the Canadian NDP doing in being involved in UK local elections?
16735  General Discussion / History / Re: America's Greatest President of the 19th Century on: March 29, 2008, 11:11:53 pm
Depends on what you mean by great.  Lincoln was certainly one of our better Presidents, but he had the advantage of a crisis to accentuate his good points.  I voted Cleveland.
16736  General Discussion / History / Re: Who has been America's worst President? on: March 29, 2008, 11:08:07 pm
Other - Woodrow Wilson.  His actions led to the death and enslavement of millions.
16737  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Are you offended by this t-shirt? on: March 29, 2008, 02:58:56 pm
Yes, but only mildly.  Same level of offense as a Che t-shirt.
16738  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Re: 1824: Jackson v. Adams on: March 29, 2008, 02:45:58 pm

(Percentages on map reflect EV.)
With just Adams and Jackson, Clay will be supporting Adams, but a good deal of Crawford's popular support will flow to Jackson, but I think his Virginia backers such as Jefferson will support Adams instead.  I think Adams would have won, but Ohio and Virginia would have been close and either State going to Jackson would have swung the election to him.

145 Adams
08 Connecticut
02 Delaware
01 Illinois
14 Kentucky
02 Louisiana
09 Maine
03 Maryland
15 Massachusetts
08 New Hampshire
32 New York
16 Ohio
04 Rhode Island
07 Vermont
24 Virginia

116 Jackson
05 Alabama
01 Delaware
09 Georgia
02 Illinois
05 Indiana
03 Louisiana
08 Maryland
03 Mississippi
03 Missouri
08 New Jersey
04 New York
15 North Carolina
28 Pennsylvania
11 South Carolina
11 Tennessee
16739  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Ralph Nader urges Hillary Clinton to continue. on: March 29, 2008, 01:48:01 pm
Clinton/Nader '08 ?
16740  Election Archive / 2008 U.S. Presidential Election Campaign / Re: How Hillary Became President on: March 29, 2008, 01:43:43 pm
And here I was thinking was going to be something like an alt-history story I read once and you were going to argue that something bad was going to happen to Obama after he wins the general election so that his running mate, Hillary, would end up as President.
16741  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Collecting Antiques and Other Rarities on: March 28, 2008, 10:36:46 pm
Coins which I'm interested in, and I whole bunch of post cards that I inherited but am not all that interested in.

I also collect old computers including a TRS-80 Color Computer maxed out with a full 32KB of RAM and a single-sided floppy disk and an AT&T UNIX-PC with a whopping 20MB hard drive.
16742  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: The Case for North Carolina: A Devil's Advocate Obamargument on: March 27, 2008, 05:35:50 pm
Why do people keep insisting that this election will be a close one?  If this election turns out to be tilted to the Democrats, North Carolina will be in play.  Only if we have yet another close election will North Carolina be safely Republican for 2008.  I'll grant that North Carolina will not be the difference between whether Obama or McCain is President in 2009, but Obama might want to campaign there if the national election seems to be effectively decided by mid-October and some down ballot coattails are needed.
16743  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: EV Calculator options on: March 26, 2008, 10:05:24 pm
Here's 1832 for you, treating Maryland as winner take all, which it wasn't.  I didn't want to bother correcting the EV's or percentages to be correct for 1832 either as that requires more manipulation, so I had the calculator omit them

16744  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Ultimate Battle of the Washington Counties - #2 King v. #4 San Juan on: March 26, 2008, 08:50:24 pm
Despite not being giants,
San Juan wins the pennant!
San Juan wins the pennant!
San Juan wins the pennant!
San Juan wins the pennant!
San Juan wins the pennant!
San Juan wins the pennant!
16745  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: EV Calculator options on: March 26, 2008, 08:46:32 pm
You can get 1824 to 1836 maps by manipulating the URL by hand and it even handles the changing boundaries of Missouri correctly.  1820 provides a small problem as there was a question as to whether Missouri was a State at the time the EV was counted, so I suspect Dave is trying to decide how to handle that.  There's also the problem that for 1832 and earlier, not all of the States used winner take all.

In 1832 Maryland was split into single-member districts.

1828 had Maryland and Tennessee use SMD's, while Maine used the CD+2 method, while New York used a CD+2 variant in which the 2 extra electors were chosen not by the popular vote but by the other electors.

1824 had 5 states using SMD and 1 using CD+2.

1820 had 4 states using SMD and 2 using CD+2.

1816 had 3 states using SMD.

1812 had 3 states using SMD and 1 using CD+2.

1808 had 4 states using SMD.

1804 had 4 states using SMD and 1 using CD+2.

1800 had 3 states using SMD and Tennessee using a caucus type system with each county electing a delegate with the delegates then meeting in single member districts to select an elector.

1796 had 4 states using SMD, Tennessee using its caucus system, and New Hampshire and Massachusetts using hybrid systems with both the PV and the state legislature having a hand.

1792 had 2 states using SMD and 2 using hybrid systems.

1789 had 1 state using SMD and 2 using hybrid systems.

Then there's the fun of having each elector cast two votes in 1789 - 1800.
16746  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: RISK Domination VI: Round 1 (Meekermariner) on: March 26, 2008, 05:06:36 pm
Meeker's in a tough spot.  The way the map is, Gustav is almost certainly going to want to attack Nevada next round, so trying to get and hold the Southwest is unlikely to succeed unless he can make an arrangement with Gustaf.  With no prospect of taking and holding a region, making a single attack to gain a RISK card or blitzing west to deny Gustaf the Pacific bonus looks like the best short term strategies.
16747  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What's your longest absence from the Atlas Forum? on: March 26, 2008, 03:55:20 pm
My longest absence ended on June 18, 2004.
16748  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Condi Flirts with VP Possibility on: March 26, 2008, 03:39:14 pm
If she's flirting with anything of a National nature, it's a run for the Senate in 2010 if Shelby retires.   Since her existing connections are California and Alabama, I can't see her as having much of  chance in New York.
16749  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: The world's newest democracy: Bhutan on: March 26, 2008, 12:42:40 pm
I don't get it. Forgive me for my ignorance of Bhutanese history, but why does the king want to make his country more democratic? It seems like they were just getting along fine  with the way they practiced for 500 years.

He doesn't want Bhutan to become another Nepal.
16750  Election Archive / 2008 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: SUSA: Significance of VP in 15 states on: March 26, 2008, 12:29:52 pm
I don't really believe VP is that important as a factor, but it shows which voters may include it as a factor in decisionmaking, I suspect - maybe.

Maybe indeed.  While I do not see myself voting for Obama or Clinton no matter who they select for a running mate, whether I vote for McCain does depend on who he picks.
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